Karlov Manor Precons with a NEW CHALLENGER | Kaust VS Morska VS Nelly Borca VS Mirko

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5 ай бұрын

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@alexmcgregor8658 5 ай бұрын

Like this comment to say "Thanks Editor Fil."

@WiLDRAGE777 5 ай бұрын

That was a great game and probably the longest one I've seen on this channel in a long time. Playing precons against each other is definitely the way to do it. Also congrats on the first ever Planeswalker Ultimate.

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, pre-editing it was like 2h20m. Definitely a slugfest.

@zachstover1500 5 ай бұрын

mirko's seeming really good, gotta remember the finality counter though!

@brningpyre 5 ай бұрын

24:43 The flavour of this card is amazing! If you tip at end of turn, you get "KILLER SERVICE". Also, it's "pay (2) AND sac a token".

@IncredulousPasserby 5 ай бұрын

It’s open to interpretation but my take was that the rhino warriors are disguising themselves as waiters. The killer service is them revealing themselves and going wild - sacrificing the token (since it comes with food) is them throwing the food down in the reveal. Maybe a bit too complicated but my mental image of it is GREAT so I’m sticking with it.

@ElmoTheRed 5 ай бұрын

As soon as they said this I thought "because this set was supposed to be on new capenna and that was a card from that set."

@cardboardcastle4427 5 ай бұрын

Also if you look at the art on killer service, the rhino waiter is hiding a knife under his tray. Further confirming the rhino assassin/waiter

@mcmc9176 5 ай бұрын

Now this episode was amazing, every deck got a chance to shine and have its "gotcha" moment. All except really the boros deck but that got to shine last episode so its only fair lol. Look forward to more content!

@tylercombs6745 5 ай бұрын

I have been waiting 11 years for a Mirko reprint/new version, and i'm so happy to see him being played, even in a precon, would love to see a Mirko Viosk, Mind Drinker Deck

@xander_man 5 ай бұрын

Excuse me while my bones turn to dust at the realisation that Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker is in fact 11 years old

@jimstewart4929 5 ай бұрын

Feeling very old. DRM prerelease was my first LGS experience, lol

@samsmith2589 5 ай бұрын

I thought clues tapped and sacced for a second there, and got real scared about what that tezzeret emblem could do!

@uwsnycusa3 5 ай бұрын

Editor Fil was awesome on the show!!! Definitely should be in front of the of the camera more often! Such a glue guy that brought out smiles and enthusiasm all around!

@amee4231 5 ай бұрын

Stuck in bed with Covid so a marathon spike feeders game was just what I needed thanks lads ❤

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

Damn, hope you feel better soon. We have another game dropping monday, and another on thursday!

@ManuuRondan 5 ай бұрын

I'm so excited for this set, all the precons look incredibly fun! Loved that everyone got a chance to pop off and show their decks, those are my favorite commander games! Great stuff!

@Temzilla2 5 ай бұрын

52:17 I definitely read Sphinx of the Second Sun incorrectly... I read it like the beginning phase happened before your postcombat main and have been playing it like that for several weeks now... I guess it just shows that no one at my LGS reads the cards lol.

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

It's probably one of the least understood cards from the past several years. We made a combo explanation video on it and it took us over an hour to work it out.

@beningram1811 5 ай бұрын

well that's 'cuz it CLEARLY says, at the beginning of your post combat main phase. There's no way it couldn't be... oh wait.

@cameronhewitt7883 5 ай бұрын

32:38 wouldn’t you not be able to target it cause its converted mana is 7 anywhere but the stack

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for being the only other person for seeing this

@chrisbiggs1679 5 ай бұрын

New decks. I understand the missed triggers and it's much easier to see when you're watching it versus when you're actually playing. However, not tracking commander damage bothered me. Jim let Seans commander hit him a bunch but never tracked the damage.

@danielnadeau1752 5 ай бұрын

"We're not in Ontario"... This guy^

@codyduncan3809 5 ай бұрын

I wanna see the closet at Alex's house. It is probably a gold mine of Hawaiian shirts

@manadorkuk 5 ай бұрын

As it turns out, Jim was the threat all along

@MrJpurvis620 5 ай бұрын

Great intro! Even better... Jim trying to keep it together XD

@Guevon_Pajaro 5 ай бұрын

Wow, I love the synergy in that dimir surveil deck

@hatchell18 5 ай бұрын

Yep, all it needs is some life gain cards so it’s not totally screwed when low on life, a better mana base and a couple extra removal/counter spells and it’ll be perfect

@jodryclayton5991 5 ай бұрын

LOL great opening, Alex!

@j4y88 5 ай бұрын

looking forward to my copies of the precons!

@TyranitarStudios 5 ай бұрын

Nice to finally meet you Jim!

@thomaswren8508 5 ай бұрын

Jim seems to have forgotten a few times that killer service requires 2 mana in addition to a token to make rinos but i also think most if not all times he had the mana untapped at his untap step anyway

@jacobslutsky9502 5 ай бұрын

Doesn’t Jim draw a card whenever he cracks a treasure cuz they tap to activate

@nathanielreichley4640 5 ай бұрын

Exciting!

@shaden489 5 ай бұрын

I'm trying to remember how trample works with a card like boros reckoned are yoy alpwed to assign more then lethal or does the extra have to trample over?

@TheOtherTracy 5 ай бұрын

Trouble in Pairs should get the official nickname of Rhystic Buddies

@liamdunleavy7916 5 ай бұрын

yippie! i guess the new vids are @ noon for the next couple days? dunno if this is when vids are always set to go live!

@redasbini1013 5 ай бұрын

this game was insane

@dracul115 5 ай бұрын

It was Jace in the library with the Sanderson hardcover.

@pookygallahad4749 5 ай бұрын

Thanks editor fil

@rpor984 5 ай бұрын

1:06:18 Which card are you talking about please ?

@user-rm6vt9su5y 5 ай бұрын

Was the Counterpoint casting Dispersal after countering Knowledge is power (32:30) legal? Discovery/Dispersals mana value in each zone other than the stack is the sum of both sides, so seven. Or am i wrong here?

@anactualdino 5 ай бұрын

I know there are already a lot of misplay comments, but i wanted to make the world a better place by saying that 1) Great to see these decks in action! They look very goofy and thematic and fun 2) When you activate a Clue, Treasure, or Food, you also tap it so you would also draw a card if you hypothetically had a Betrayer of Flesh emblem

@anactualdino 5 ай бұрын

Jim started doing this after I posted the comment, so you're welcome I guess

@kite253 5 ай бұрын

I also thought clues were tap to sac, but they aren't! Jim late in the episode starts saccing foods instead of clues for card draw :)

@taylorjohnson5148 5 ай бұрын

I’d love to see a deck brewed with the secondary commander from the Bant deck. I need Scooby Doo

@Vladcronqvist 5 ай бұрын

It is just me or Jim’s ethereal investigator triggred ability never triggers?

@HinekoAkahi 5 ай бұрын

Me, in the first few minutes: There is a lot of frankly unwarranted bullying of Jim here- Jim: \*immediately becomes and remains the Problem* Me: Ah.

@guilhermeviana3669 5 ай бұрын

Mirko is a pretty interesting commander. Can become sneakly big.

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

1:04:36 Alex could have double blocked with his Brash Taunter along with the Boros Reckoner, and split the 10 damage between Sean and Jim and killed them both

@kennybiggs9950 5 ай бұрын

Brash taunter died to the massacre wurms -2-2 cause its a 1/1 so the 0 toughness gets around the indestructible and Jim could sac food at instant speed for hp and still would of won anyways

@IamJoshEast 5 ай бұрын

So many missed triggers😢 also I didnt see Jim pay 2 needed for killer service outside of the first one

@anikensanchez5040 5 ай бұрын

SOLID AS A ROCK!

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

SOMEBODY had to say it

@anikensanchez5040 5 ай бұрын

@@TheSpikeFeedersthat’s what I’m SAYYYYYYING😂😂😂

@lilwigese1 5 ай бұрын

Where's the "solid as a rock" jingle that plays when opening deck boxes?

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

We have been fighting a copyright troll on the music. It'll be back soon!

@michasolowski7630 5 ай бұрын

Hi guys. Do you happen to know when U are going to restock the green big dice? I want them so bad… Cool episode as always!

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

We have a massive order coming in soon! We'll blast it out on all our socials when they're back in stocks!

@michasolowski7630 5 ай бұрын

@@TheSpikeFeeders Thank U, I hope I won’t miss it!

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

@@michasolowski7630 the restock is like... in the thousands, so they should be in stock for a little longer this time

@michasolowski7630 5 ай бұрын

@@TheSpikeFeedersalright great thank U so much well now as I noticed your patron maybe this is going to be my way of getting the dice. Thank U so much for all the info. Take care!

@ethannice6395 5 ай бұрын

Finality counters make it to where if the creature where to die, it would get exiled instead right?

@ryanflake3481 5 ай бұрын

Correct.

@hatchell18 5 ай бұрын

Yes but there’s a lot of cards you can add that can remove the finally counters off your creatures and put them on your opponents creatures. This way if the cards you reanimate die they don’t get exiled. You can also use cards that exile your shit then bring them back after to remove the finality counters as well.

@nickchaput219 5 ай бұрын

As someone who lives in Ontario I can confirm it was not worse case scenario.

@CasC96 5 ай бұрын

They gave Mirko a shirt??? That sounds like a hard nerf

@vitskicks2297 5 ай бұрын

46:02 He never counted treasures towards gravestorm count should be a lot more

@jeffwong2002 5 ай бұрын

isnt morska no longer goaded because of the serene thingamabob

@nathones 5 ай бұрын

Ruh roh, Blame Game ate it. And it’s the one I got 😢

@Zackeus1992 5 ай бұрын

Finality counter, finality counter, finality counter. That black blue commander has a *little* more text to it that matters. I know it's new cards though. ❤

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

Yeah it's tough, the turnaround on these precon eps is so tight, we get the decks with barely enough time to sleeve them up before recording.

@stefanstewart9079 5 ай бұрын

Someway somehow Jim casually forgot to pay 2 for killer service each time. Not that it mattered though that engine was hot.

@leonfriedemann9151 5 ай бұрын

Got 10 damage to deal... I think it's only 4 depending how he choose to place the damage since the creature had trample right? 🤔 ... Anyways thanks for making those videos. Good time 😊

@tristanvanhelden1437 5 ай бұрын

Jim never paid the mana each time for killer service to make the rhino just sac'd the token

@TimmytheSorcerer 5 ай бұрын

Nervous Gardener, that's hilarious. I wonder how R&D came up with that name? I personally know 0 nervous gardeners. What about you?

@user-mk4li3tu1m 5 ай бұрын

missed the losing life on the massacre wurm

@thehermit196 5 ай бұрын

seans removal choices were questionable, the mole over a manufacture especially

@passionenergy2425 5 ай бұрын

jerry managed to ultimate his nicol bolas, dragon god and won the game with it once. no idea in what episod though.

@InfectiousCrazyMan 5 ай бұрын

Jim, you have to pay 2 every time you make a rhino with killer service in addition to sacrificing a token. You had the mana most times but heads up for the future. Also, Alex and Fil using Boros Reckoner to kill Sean at the end would not work because Kessig Wolf Run gives trample. Even though Reckoner has indestructible, trample still sees lethal as 4 damage and the rest would trample over to Alex's life total. Only allowing the Reckoner to deal 4 damage.

@FilipRoman88 5 ай бұрын

Hey - so you have to assign damage with trample. I can't think of too many examples where you would want to do this outside of this scenario and Death's Shadow math but we imply that I assign all the damage from my creature to Boros Reckoner and 0 to Alex.

@l0rdapfelkuchen658 5 ай бұрын

Trample is a "may". You can always assign more than lethal damage to a blocker if you like to. "If this creature would assign enough damage to its blockers to destroy them, you may (!) have it assign the rest of its damage to defending player or planeswalker."

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

@@FilipRoman88he also could have double blocked with the Brash Taunter along with the Boros Reckoner, and split the ten damage up, and killed both Sean and Jim

@kennybiggs9950 5 ай бұрын

@@joedoe7572 actually the Brash Taunter died to the masscre wurms -2-2 as it's 1/1 and 0 toughness gets around the indestructible

@xxjsprophetxx7439 5 ай бұрын

With tezzeret's emblem, everytime he tapped and sacked treasure he should have drawn cards. Unless I am the biggest of goofs

@matthugenberg8869 5 ай бұрын

So, did you all lose your whatever the "solid as a rock" sponsor was? Because that spot has been muted for the last couple episodes

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

We're actually working through a copyright troll situation on the song. It'll be back soon!

@MD_JamDar 5 ай бұрын

Jim not paying 2 for his killer service is ironic He always gives killer service for free in commander

@Doug464 5 ай бұрын

Noticed a slight misplay with the boros reckoner and it's that the reckoner would've only been able to direct 4 damage because kessig gives trample so the other 6 would've gone to Alex's face instead. Still a really cool game showing the precons in action though and I hope to see a 50 dollar upgrade version too!

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

We filmed TWO $50 upgrade eps!

@Buchaus 5 ай бұрын

With trample, you don't "have" to assign any excess damage to the player/planeswalker/battle being attacked. You can absolutely assign all of the damage to the blocking creatures if you want to. Most of the time, it doesn't make sense to do so, but in this instance it worked out better to not hit Alex with trample damage and to just assign all damage to the blocking creature.

@l0rdapfelkuchen658 5 ай бұрын

This.

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

@@Buchaushe could have even double blocked with Brash Taunter along with the Boros Reckoner and split the 10 damage up and killed Jim along with Sean

@crovax1375 5 ай бұрын

Gold isn't necessarily better than Treasure. For example, a Gold can't draw cards from tapping for mana with a Tezzeret emblem

@jacobtrahan1993 5 ай бұрын

SOLID AS A RO.. oh we don’t do that anymore? Alright then

@TheSpikeFeeders 5 ай бұрын

It'll be back soon, we're just dealing with a copyright troll on the music

@Thisnameisnottakenjk 5 ай бұрын

Wait, why didn't Jim target his plant clue creature with his exile x spell to stop it from getting countered?

@Thisnameisnottakenjk 5 ай бұрын

Kind of a massive misplay because it would also have caused Sean's counterspell to fizzle and stop him from getting another spell from his graveyard.

@ashiaka2776 5 ай бұрын

@@Thisnameisnottakenjk the spell in question "Disorder in the Court" targets creatures (permanents). The Plant Clue (Tangletrove Kelp) was not yet a creature permanent, as it was on the stack, and thus could not be targeted by "Disorder in the Court".

@Thisnameisnottakenjk 5 ай бұрын

@@ashiaka2776 ah yah, you're right.

@akumu2625 5 ай бұрын

The moment when you let someone ulti the pw

@jameslawson6729 5 ай бұрын

Alright spike feeders, you're not fooling anyone. I know that "Editor Fil" is actually Joey Fatone.

@zsorens4570 5 ай бұрын

Am I missing something ,why isn't Jim cracking clues/foods on other peoples turns with tezzeret out?

@julianayala3342 5 ай бұрын

@36:00 the Nightveil Sprite entered with a finality counter @11:20 so it should have been in exile already

@Pixel_Minion666 5 ай бұрын

Sean tapped Sinister Starfish to surveil at Alex's endstep while it still had summoning sick.

@apd5084 5 ай бұрын

why did we kingmake jim?

@mymarshlands 5 ай бұрын

the giant dice make it actually more difficult to keep track of the game state, eventually i couldn't even tell if Mirko was on board or not 😅

@jomichaelmalanogmaniwan8449 5 ай бұрын

Sphinx of the second sun triggers “at the beginning of the post combat main phase” not the end of it

@alexmcgregor8658 5 ай бұрын

What does the rest of it say?

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

Yes, but it says "after this phase" at the end, which nobody notices, including me until recently

@KeiruKeiru 5 ай бұрын

1:03:18 There was an interesting line of play available that would have eliminated Jim and Sean, bringing the game to a 1v1. Fil draws and plays Kessig Wolf Run. He attacks Alex with Whisperwood Elemental, paying for Ghostly Prison. Fil blocks with Boros Reckoner. Both creatures survive combat. Reckoner triggers, targeting Jim, eliminating him from the game. Fill passes the turn. During his turn, Alex attacks Sean with Boros Reckoner. If Sean doesn't block the Reckoner, Fil uses his Kessig Wolf Run to pump up the Reckoner. If Sean does block, Fil uses KWR to pump the BLOCKING creature. Reckoner takes damage and targets Sean.

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

Didn't need to make it that complicated even. Alex could have double blocked with the Brash Taunter along with the Boros reckoner, and split the 10 damage up, and killed both Jim and Sean at the same time

@KeiruKeiru 5 ай бұрын

@@joedoe7572 The Brash Taunter died to the Massacre Worm 3 minutes prior.

@hatchell18 5 ай бұрын

All that mirko deck needs is some life gain cards because it has no way to get life back, a better mana base and a few extra counter/removal spells and it’ll be powerful asf. Even out of the box it’s really good.

@Pixel_Minion666 5 ай бұрын

Jim forgot he ultimated Tezzeret. So at his end step, he had to pay 2 before cracking the clue to make his 4/4 rhino.

@vidgapbaker7588 5 ай бұрын

fallout cards in march and fallout show in april

@AR0SDUBZ 5 ай бұрын

everytime jim used his treasure to sac a clue, he shouldve been drawing 3 from the emblem, since the treasures are being tapped.

@AR0SDUBZ 5 ай бұрын

well drawing 4 actually, since clue as well was being tapped.

@icreateimage7908 5 ай бұрын

Is it just me, or are these precon decks starting to power creep even further? I mean, these are nowhere near CEDH, but they are getting closer to a high proficient EDH decks. Just fine-tuning these precons a little bit, and you can sit down and compete in any non-CEDH table.

@joedoe7572 5 ай бұрын

Not quite any non-cEDH table, but it's nice that they're powerful enough to compete with low to mid-tier average commander decks easily enough

@hatchell18 5 ай бұрын

They’re definitely pretty good and super fun with some amazing cards in them, but they’re still only power level 5. Low 6 at best. With an upgraded mana base, some extra/better counter spells/removal spells, and in the mirko deck some life gain cards, maybe a few of the creatures swapped out with better or more efficient ones, and they can easily be bumped up to power level 8 or even 9.

@hatchell18 5 ай бұрын

All the mirko deck needs is the land base upgraded with the dual lands that can enter in untapped, some fetch lands like polluted delta and prismatic vista, a few more of the 2cmc good mana rocks, shit like Swan song, mana drain/counter spell, deadly rollick, cyclonic rift, maybe a windfall and a few ways to remove or move the finality counters, rhystic study/propaganda and a few life gain cards like whip of erobos/blood artist, throw in at least a few tutors so it’s more consistent like entomb and demonic tutor, and it would 100 percent be power 8 or low 9.

@icreateimage7908 5 ай бұрын

@@hatchell18 hahaha!