32:59 - Counterpoint doesn't actually counter the comuppance. Because Comuppance is higher up the stack, it fully resolves before counterpoint can counter it. Leaving counterpoint with no target.

The prisoner dilemma moment has to totally become a clip. It was so epic ahahah

These decks matched so well with your guy's playstyles and decks you play anyway. It's crazy

This is probably the first time, in a long time, that the crew is playing the actual 100 card lists since MTGO has been behind on adding new cards. Last episode featuring Dr. Who cards was a nice addition as well. Hoping they do more with cards unavailable online; maybe Warhammer, but I can definitely see the Fallout decks.

If you asked me to match a deck from this set with each of the players, there was never another option and I haven't even seen the video yet. This set of decks was perfect for you guys

something about seth complaining about a precon mana base while routinely getting bogged down by MDFCs in his own brews is *chef’s kiss*

This was a smooth watch. Props to the editor, it's so good. First time I've seen the dimir deck dominate this much. Deep clue sea usually goes dumb

Around 32:55 Fell the Mighty should have resolved. Boltbender changes the target of Counterpoint with Comeuppance but, since Comeuppance resolves first, Counterpoint doesn't have a valid target anymore, so it can't resolve when it tries to and Crim wouldn't have been able to cast Price of Fame to "fizzle" Fell the Mighty.

18:14 Fun rules fact: Triggered abilities begin with "When..." The hooded hydra ability says "as..." Which is why it's not a triggered ability, it's a replacement ability that is modifying the morph activated ability.

Prisoner’s Dilemma has very quickly become one of my favourite cards. Poor Seth, too kind for this cruel world!

Phil’s “Damn.” after Seth being the only one to get popped by Prisoner’s Dilemma was so funny lol

That was a lot of fun! Kudos to Crim for making so much out of a 100 precon cards, Kudos to Richard for not losing his mind because his deck can only build pillow forts

Spectacular job from the editor. Really smooth and detailed throughout.

Thanks for sticking it out to the end. I learn so much from crazy board states and stack interaction.

Seth gets a lot of grief for not casting his Commanders, but it's hard to excuse not casting your hybrid mana 2 drop Commander... in the precon... which is built around your Commander

I love love love, that you guys use the base color playmats, it makes everything so much easier to follow thankyou so much!

My eyes actually popped wide open when I read the Deep Clue Sea Decklist. Insane value.

Would definitely love to see the Warhammer decks played at this table! 😁

Have to say, I enjoy watching these games much more than the MTGO content.

This is an impressive amount of card draw from a boros deck. Smugglers share putting in work

Best gameplay channel on KZfaq keep it up boys 🥰

There is something that made the playing on Mtgo more unique because this was the only channel doing it.

Phil is right. There are some SWEET precons.

Poor Phil. That deck really is very cool. My favorite of these 4 by far

This is the second precon pod I've seen, both times Mirko looked busted

i am still stunned at the flawless transition to paper, ive wished for it so long! magic is so much better with real cards! thank you so much!

Seth only looking at sorceries and instants to determine how much removal is in the deck, there's actually about 9 targeted removal and 4 board wipes, just a bunch on creatures. Also seeing a bunch of comments on power imbalance based on one gameplay; of the 6 I've watched, Nelly won 2, Clues won 2, Surveil won 1, and Kaust won 1, so I'd say they actually look pretty balanced, although even though it won one, Kaust does seem like it struggled to get going the most of the 4 in all the games.

It's insane how much stronger the surveil deck is than the other three

Amazing game! Loved prisoner's dilemma! Good job guys!!!

32:54 Shouldn't the comeuppance resolve first still since it is the top of the stack and then the counterpoint would fail to resolve?

I'm not sure if this is a coincidence but I like how the offline games are shorter than the MTGO games. Makes for better watching! Keep it up lads!

I enjoy these much more now that they are physical cards instead of online, great job!

Guys the paper commander games are so much better than the MtgOnline games. Big fan!. Can’t wait to see more!!

Last week I said I’m tired of seeing Crim hated off the table and this week Crim went unhated and absolutely destroyed the table. Revenge is sweet! Great content guys keep it up!

Ofc Phil is playing the bant value engine tribal deck 😂

So Counterpoint would have fizzled. Being pointed at Comeuppance, by the time Counterpoint comes to resolve, Comeuppance is no longer on the stack. As Counterpoint's only target is Comeuppance, it fizzles and can't be used to play something from the graveyard, as it isn't targeting something from the graveyard. And if you're wondering about Projektor, I think I can explain - that's the German spelling of the word. Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" was a major work of German Expressionism, and a lot of its imagery is iconic in Art Deco circles. But it does also have goofy retro-futurism machinery and apparatuses, which seems to inspire the two Projektor cards. And this set was clearly New Capenna in development until late, explaining both why the precons have so many New Capenna reprints and why Dogged Detective... is not a Detective.

This is the first time I've been able to understand Crim's way of play. When he killed the target of Fell the Mighty...I've not seen many galaxy brain plays. Hat off to Crim. I think I finally get it.

32:50 Crim does not get a Price of Fame. Comeupance resolved before Counterpoint could counter it, so the spell fizzles with no target.

So glad we got to see prisoner's dilemma. I really want to make a Negan deck with all those little choices/secret game effects, so cool!

Seth, mate, why didn't you even play your commander. Don't complain the dragon flipping up costs 6 if you can do it for free. Also the precon has Mirror Entity, so that's your dragon to search for. Recently bought it, and it feels amazing.

watched a short from gavin verhey about designing the prisoner's dilemma card, glad to see it worked out as intended lmaoo

Got them all directly after they got spoiled, but the dimir deck with a necromancy reprint..... Love it 👻 And I am very excited to try the dream eater in my Carmen crual skymarcher list.... First white deck I have and lots of fun with treasures reanimating archons and other stuff sacking a bunch with bolas citadel..... So mich fun the pay 2 life surveil 2 will be very handy 😊

Sooo was Crim the one who said they wanted to play that deck lol. The surveil deck takes off every time i see it. Such a good commander.

Loving the non-MODO content!

Excited to see Tomer's upgrade guides a month from now

I've been really enjoying the paper play

That Nelly Borca deck is a beast when properly upgraded (the default Mana base is trash). Gets a bit unwieldy with 3 opponents but I had the board completely locked down with 2.

Episode 4 of me asking: “stats episode for last season???”

No lag all Clash on!! More!!! One at the end as well. Heck give us half time clash on. Not enough clash on!!

A counterspell under the spell it targets on the stack will fizzle, so Crim can't flash back the Price of Fame, and the "board wipe" does resolve.

Richard asking about removal, also Richard bashing removal in most the podcasts xD

I absolutely love the paper Magic! Also, I upgraded the land base of my two precons before I touched the meat and potatoes. The lands in these precons were sooo bad

I rushed to buy the Mirko precon when I found out the alt commander was Marvo, the Octopus with a clash ability (big fan of it), and wanted to swap commanders, but as I see more gameplay with Mirko, I start to realized it is quite too powerful and synergic to be switched.

this was a really fun video to watch i am definitely thinking of buying the morph deck as my first commander deck i have some cards i can swap out to fix the mana issues so i wont have to worry about lying around and also the new dog in the deck i kinda want to build a mono red hound deck for fun with it.

"Kraust" It starts immediately

wow, i knew the day would come that you guys would play on paper, lol

counterpoint would have fizzled because comeuppance even though targeted by counterpoint still is above it on the stack and would therefore resolve before being countered leaving no valid target for the counterpoint.

Would really like to see another game with these decks. Yes, the dimir deck looked insane, but 2 players couldn't even get their engines online properly which of course sucks for a goad deck. I feel like this is probably the worst outcome for these precons and it would be nice to see what else can happen with them.

I played enchanted surveillance wrong, really thought I got to look at 2 extra cards but only survival the amount on the card. That card is way better then I thought

Im confused by the willbender counterpoint play, can't will bender change the target of counterpoint to itself?

Yeah this basically played out how all the precon games I played with my friends where Nelly kingmakes Mirko haha.

Dimir deck is so much more busted than the rest. Reminds me of the knight deck from MoM

I'm really glad I saw this game. I was thinking about getting the Boros (R/W) deck and seeing it flop like it did has made me rethink my decision.

25:08 lmaooooooo poor Phil, hated on all game for existing

At 18:14 Richard is wrong about hooded hydra not triggering when morphed. When/whenever/at indicates a triggered ability

Why did they switch to IRL instead of MTO

I think you all need to play some budget deck of 2 or 3 colors to have more apreciation for the manabase :p

Guys when will the stats episode come out😭

You only don't have to attack when goaded vs a ghostly prison if you can't pay for it.

Wow, the complexity creep on these precons is nuts.

An idea for a theme week: 5 color - mono color decks. Basically allowing them to play hybrid cards in a mono color deck. So each person picks a color and your mono black or mono red player could use Fulminator Mage. I don’t think they're going to change the hybrid mana rules but why not explore what that would look like for decks?

Seth killing Phil was a poor choice; crim was the threat the whole time basically and no one tried to do anything. Phil could have helped but instead got attacked each turn. Richard needs to keep his lands and his artifacts separate and stop swapping lands around. Not to mention nelly should have been goading more creatures since the suspect is permanent.

I can’t believe they’ve completed the oddysey land cycle after like 23 years 🤣

21:07 fun fact Seth, theres no swords or path in the Blame Game precon

31:45 Can't you redirect Counterpoint to target itself? It's a spell on the stack.

Really enjoy the paper games. Seem like the games go so much faster then having to click through all the triggers on MTGO.

Crim's counterspell should have fizzled after comeuppance resolved as comeuppance was higher on the stack. Then Seth's board wipe would go through

22:00 has to be a short lol

This was brutal to watch

Live gameplay is cool, gotta admit I kinda miss some of the banter and conversations that happened because of the lag of mtgo. I completely get the reason for the change though the lack of cards was getting pretty bad.

Crim would have also had so many 1/1s from richards Darien at the end haha

Phil matching his clothes to his deck continues to impress me.

You can tell the commander damage rule needs to be changed because they don't even bother tracking it

38:50 eyeball is NOT MAY pay life. You HAVE to pay life to cast from surveil.

Ahhh yes, Crim doing Crim things.

As soon as prisoner's dilemma was cast I knew Crim would snitch.

Why the heck didnt hooded hydra get the double trigger, the bottom line literally says when it flips????

Anyone know what the guys use for overhead cameras?

Sick

doesn't mirko get one +1/+1 Counter for each time you surveil? so when dogged detective ETB mirko should get 2 +1/+1 Counter. Do i get something wrong?

I'm sad Phil's deck did nothing it was the precon I got would not mind seeing the same deck again even upgraded

The morph deck definitely seams the most hurt by the others, best I've seen the survail deck go and not be stopped. Least I've seen the clue deck go. Goad is about were it is.

How does Phil not get driven to the brink of insanity hearing people mispronounce Gisela every time it's played?

Why not rotate the cards such that they are right side up for the viewer?

Wouldn’t take the bait have forced crim to take a second combat and attack with all his creatures? I mean he won regardless with syr Conrad but they seemed to think it wouldn’t do anything but fog.

I’ve lost the two times I’ve played against Nelly Borca because of the ways that deck can reflect damage lol. Basically it didn’t do anything all game. I lose because I do all the work. Mirko is pretty silly too as a precon.

Loved seeing the precons but then they were played wrong and mistakes were made with many of the spells and triggers which marred it. Hope to see more, especially the MH3 ones.

This is fun except when i know none of the cards it is a bit tough

was Seth's commander Kaust or the bear? He didn't play Kaust even once wth?

I mean you let Crim play Dimir lol