Karpov vs. Korchnoi | Candidates Final 1974 - GM Ben Finegold

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Saint Louis Chess Club

Saint Louis Chess Club

8 жыл бұрын

Grandmaster Ben Finegold covers the World Chess Championship 1975... which didn't happen. Karpov was awarded the title because he won the Candidates Tournament 1974 and then Fischer wouldn't defend. See key games from the Candidates final.
2016.04.14
Anatoly Karpov vs Viktor Korchnoi, Karpov - Korchnoi Candidates Final (1974): B77 Sicilian, dragon, Yugoslav attack, 9...Bd7
Anatoly Karpov vs Viktor Korchnoi, Karpov - Korchnoi Candidates Final (1974): C42 Petrov, classical attack, Chigorin variation

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@AlexM-iw1kd
@AlexM-iw1kd 8 жыл бұрын
Ben in a suit, very suspicious...
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
ITS AN IMPOSTER!!!!!!! BEN NEVER WEARS A SUIT!!!!!!!!
@terere1976
@terere1976 4 жыл бұрын
no joke, when I saw the thumbnail it was the first thing that I thought of. Glad to see its top comment
@propagandaBreaker
@propagandaBreaker 2 жыл бұрын
yeah but it is the truth and ....the truth hurts man!
@nicholasimholte7359
@nicholasimholte7359 9 ай бұрын
With advantage.
@Scoot2918
@Scoot2918 2 ай бұрын
Truth hurts
@briansheldon6804
@briansheldon6804 7 жыл бұрын
"Trying is the first step towards failure." -Finegold
@joebrett3614
@joebrett3614 7 жыл бұрын
One of his best lines.
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 6 жыл бұрын
He got it from Homer Simpson. :)
@nilsp9426
@nilsp9426 8 жыл бұрын
Back to some Fine gold.
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
Yep. Its Fine GOLD. Good as gold.
@russetgold4195
@russetgold4195 7 жыл бұрын
:fire: it's lit
@andyisyoda
@andyisyoda 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!! Ben is back!!! And Arjun! Hit the like button before even watching. Ben you are the best chess youtuber on the planet. Please launch your own channel.
@emokehaupt8584
@emokehaupt8584 8 жыл бұрын
He had antes own channel with lots of great videos, but it was closed for unknown reasons. Maybe he couldnt afford doing so much work
@Dan1elAndrade
@Dan1elAndrade 5 жыл бұрын
He did two years later.
@lolwhatyesme651
@lolwhatyesme651 8 жыл бұрын
Yes ben you're back! Bloody hell I missed your videos mate. AND ARJUN IS IN IT! YES!
@blairschirmerx1711
@blairschirmerx1711 7 жыл бұрын
The stupid, gratuitous insults of Fischer, who was obviously mentally ill at that point, are just Ben embarrassing himself. What a disgrace. It's surprising St. Louis Chess would include this video on their site.
@DSBGangmember001
@DSBGangmember001 5 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Burke You should watch more Finegold in order to improve your sarcasm.
@henson2k
@henson2k 8 жыл бұрын
Mr. Finegold is the reason why I watch this channel
@LexFloyd
@LexFloyd 8 жыл бұрын
In increasing order: US Chess Championship, Blitz Event with Kasparov, Finegold lecturing.
@emokehaupt8584
@emokehaupt8584 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
-_-
@kristianfagerstrom7011
@kristianfagerstrom7011 8 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Finegold!
@bengtrademacher1758
@bengtrademacher1758 8 жыл бұрын
All my dreams have come true! Ben, love your vids, please do more of them!
@TheCobyMagic0
@TheCobyMagic0 8 жыл бұрын
I always get so excited when I see a Finegold video!
@detbrucker7952
@detbrucker7952 8 жыл бұрын
it's great you are back! hope we'll see more lectures soon. you're the Godfather of lecturing!
@spartnstarcraft2
@spartnstarcraft2 8 жыл бұрын
Ben's videos are always the best.
@nublord365
@nublord365 8 жыл бұрын
OMG FINEGOLD
@vagua1993
@vagua1993 8 жыл бұрын
''I tried to win, but trying is the first step to failure''
@bobdylan6237
@bobdylan6237 8 жыл бұрын
Ben's back! Welcome home Ben! Hope to see lots of new videos from you soon.
@liammcooper
@liammcooper 6 жыл бұрын
At 18:34 "Korchnoi and his trainers hadn't solved the dragon yet" that may be due to the fact that Korchnoi was being stonewalled by other GMs who refused to help him, in part because Petrosian claimed Korchnoi could never defeat Fischer. It's impossible to say whether Korchnoi would've won the match if he did have top level seconds helping him, but instead eventually had to settle for the assistance of two British IMs and still wound up almost drawing the match. Karpov used to be one of my favorite players, but it seems his staid nationalism and the behavior of his contemporaries to prevent Korchnoi from having a fair match, has left a perturbed taste in my mouth. (Whatever perturbed tastes like...)
@Beibyface
@Beibyface 8 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@libertyprime9307
@libertyprime9307 8 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back, Ben.
@656520
@656520 8 жыл бұрын
Finally Mr. Finegold is back!!! after quite a long time. Hope he keeps the readings coming.
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын
Grandmaster Finegold*
@PSModelling
@PSModelling 8 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back Ben.
@lordulcocsi
@lordulcocsi 8 жыл бұрын
THE LEGEND IS BACK
@AndrewIsbell
@AndrewIsbell 8 жыл бұрын
I've noticed the Ben Finegold playlist had hidden private videos for some time now and I am very happy these are now public. Thanks for the videos!
@jonathanmarin7147
@jonathanmarin7147 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Isbell Wich ones are? so i can view it.
@AndrewIsbell
@AndrewIsbell 8 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Marin Just this one for now but there are 2 more videos in the Finegold playlist that are "private" so I would guess these would come out over the next few days.
@mikec3029
@mikec3029 8 жыл бұрын
Finally! Nice to see You, Ben!
@boudewijngreven
@boudewijngreven 8 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!! Welcome back, Ben!
@croshifter9762
@croshifter9762 8 жыл бұрын
finally a ben finegold lecture!!!!
@Trollkemada
@Trollkemada 8 жыл бұрын
More videos from Ben, Nice!! =D
@rosebuster
@rosebuster 8 жыл бұрын
BEN FINEGOLD!!! Where have you been all this time! Finally! Thank you!
@libertyprime9307
@libertyprime9307 8 жыл бұрын
+Maks Rosebuster He went through an episode where he deleted his youtube channel, twitter etc... guess he needed time to get over whatever was bothering him. www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/3rr4uj/ben_finegolds_yt_account_is_deleted/
@rosebuster
@rosebuster 8 жыл бұрын
+Liberty Prime Very suspicious.
@lllllllllllllllllIll
@lllllllllllllllllIll 8 жыл бұрын
+Liberty Prime He was teaching chess in Charlotte. Don't jump to conclusions
@libertyprime9307
@libertyprime9307 8 жыл бұрын
Classico And that explains why he deleted his social media accounts... how?
@Ninnoa
@Ninnoa 8 жыл бұрын
I could not believe my eyes when I saw it is Ben's video arrived. Thumbs up even before watching. :)
@clausmarcuslund3551
@clausmarcuslund3551 8 жыл бұрын
Simply excellent to see both Yazz and Ben back! Big smile here :)
@johnhofer3089
@johnhofer3089 8 жыл бұрын
I can't press play until the popcorn is popped and the fizzy drink is poured. Ben is back!!
@PASCAL2991997
@PASCAL2991997 8 жыл бұрын
wow pls more finally he is back
@marinkovicdr
@marinkovicdr 8 жыл бұрын
GM Finegold is back! :)
@Manwlatsi
@Manwlatsi 8 жыл бұрын
We love you Ben! :D
@culedood123
@culedood123 8 жыл бұрын
BEN IS BACK! BEN IS BACK! BEN IS BACK!
@aonghasvansant
@aonghasvansant 8 жыл бұрын
Made my day.
@rawandhamid6264
@rawandhamid6264 8 жыл бұрын
welcome back
@Joslinmeister
@Joslinmeister 8 жыл бұрын
Finally Ben is back!
@SelfReflective
@SelfReflective 6 жыл бұрын
"Now, things are defending other things, and things are happening..." - He just described the game of chess.
@Dan1elAndrade
@Dan1elAndrade 5 жыл бұрын
That Anish Giri joke cracked me up xD
@gunsimar
@gunsimar 8 жыл бұрын
Yaaay BEN IS BACK
@joenuevo
@joenuevo 8 жыл бұрын
Did you intentionally line up the beginning music with Ben's air quotes?
@nyrambler23
@nyrambler23 8 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS BEN IS BACK
@SteveRunciman
@SteveRunciman 8 жыл бұрын
My life is turning to shit but grandmasta ben finegold is back!!! This man is a chess god freak.
@MsUncleKevin
@MsUncleKevin 8 жыл бұрын
Yes Ben is back.
@charlesdarwin180
@charlesdarwin180 8 жыл бұрын
I learned what the "Karpov style of play" was here through the examples given in the Korchnoi/Karpov lecture. By the way, I totally agree that if you can't see through the complications of counterplay and you have a winning advantage already, there is no need to take the sacrifice.
@johngreco5813
@johngreco5813 7 жыл бұрын
21:10 had me dying hahahahahaha
@scarscrews
@scarscrews 8 жыл бұрын
FINEGOLD IS BACK
@richardfeynman5560
@richardfeynman5560 6 жыл бұрын
I did'nt know Ben Finegold until now, but I must say he is very entertaining!
@nickcline3792
@nickcline3792 8 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Ben
@lllllllllllllllllIll
@lllllllllllllllllIll 8 жыл бұрын
Finegold video in 100 years, yessss
@groussac
@groussac 4 жыл бұрын
One of his better lectures. Clear analysis, occasional joke, historical background.
@weixiong1.0
@weixiong1.0 8 жыл бұрын
Who made you put on a suit, Ben?
@LawlFrank
@LawlFrank 7 жыл бұрын
I am kind of interested in the chess, but I mainly watch these videos because this guy is a comedian genius :D
@softwareadministrato
@softwareadministrato 8 жыл бұрын
BEN IS BACK! Horible.... :D :D :D Really missed you dude
@doxfie.
@doxfie. 8 жыл бұрын
yes yes hes a grandmaster and all, but he couldnt make it to 1998 missouri state high school champion though
@rosebuster
@rosebuster 8 жыл бұрын
Grandmaster Mike Kummer likes your comment.
@gregbattis
@gregbattis 8 жыл бұрын
+Maks Rosebuster So does Grandmaster Ken West
@rymdgrodan2
@rymdgrodan2 8 жыл бұрын
Yeeaah he is back!! :)
@emokehaupt8584
@emokehaupt8584 8 жыл бұрын
man i laughed so Hard at 21:20. That giri reference
@sergi-13
@sergi-13 8 жыл бұрын
Thank god.
@fizwizzle1989
@fizwizzle1989 5 жыл бұрын
Ken west never gets a break
@ludogi4210
@ludogi4210 8 жыл бұрын
You're back ! :) at 30:40 after G3, could black take the bishop with the rook ? rxF4
@fouronetwo813
@fouronetwo813 6 жыл бұрын
"Trying is the first step to failure"
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 жыл бұрын
10:07 "Was Arby's around in '74?" Yes: founded in 1964 and had a couple of hundred outlets by the mid-1970s.
@nicholasimholte7359
@nicholasimholte7359 9 ай бұрын
High quality comment.
@muskaka1268
@muskaka1268 8 жыл бұрын
i miss u man
@Rimpelmans
@Rimpelmans 8 жыл бұрын
Ben giving the lecture, Arjun in the audience, this is going to be good!
@chrisnube6391
@chrisnube6391 8 жыл бұрын
FINEGOLD IS BACK!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!
@GraemeCree
@GraemeCree 3 ай бұрын
They did believe at the time that this was the championship. Fischer had resigned the world title in June 1974. Robert Byrne went around telling everybody in Moscow during this match that they were in fact playing for the World Championship. Fischer himself admitted that his 9-9 tie clause was unfair, but that he wasn't going to back down anyway. (See Chess Life & Review, July 1975). In hindsight it looks like Fischer wasn't going to play anybody, under any circumstances. (That's why he resigned the title before his challenger was selected, so people couldn't say he was ducking any one specific person). Fischer never intended to give up the title over the 9-9 clause. He resigned the title right after FIDE had voted to limit the match to 36 games. Fischer wanted to give up the title over the Unlimited Match, which, despite how badly it worked out, I still think was worth trying. Had that happened, history would have been a lot kinder to Fischer. (The Unlimited Match isn't *unfair*, just a bad idea) But when FIDE relented at the 11th hour, and granted the Unlimited Match, the admittedly unfair 9-9 clause was the only thing left to walk out over.
@cyxFrag
@cyxFrag 8 жыл бұрын
i think that game was already covered by Yasser, but correct me if i am wrong (the dragon one)
@mizofan
@mizofan 7 жыл бұрын
In 75 Karpov certainly would have had a decent chance v Fischer. Was Fischer really up for playing him after a break, and if so why didn't he? Did he not have some mental instability? Would he automatically have been as good as in 69-72? And even if so, Karpov was no pushover. Kasparov improved through playing Karpov, who would surely have improved by playing Fischer, though he demonstrated his great quality over the next decade. Anyway, enjoyable video, thanks.
@alexoldfield373
@alexoldfield373 8 жыл бұрын
Disappears and no videos for 5 months.... TERRIBLE!!! Welcome back Ben you were greatly missed.
@piFFD513
@piFFD513 8 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else lose it @ 25:35 ? So funny. . "Now he's coming to get him." .... "You scared Arjen? I'm scared."
@Wisemanus
@Wisemanus 8 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me which game Ivanchuk - Anand he's talking about?
@Argoniasty
@Argoniasty 8 жыл бұрын
Gonna grab some popcorn.
@SagnikChatterjee007
@SagnikChatterjee007 8 жыл бұрын
Yes! :D
@user-nw6qp1ki2n
@user-nw6qp1ki2n 4 жыл бұрын
Best GM ever 💚🧡💙
@palmarius104
@palmarius104 6 жыл бұрын
Well the reason we have more 2700s is because of rating inflation, it really isn't because people play better these days, cause they don't
@rubyred9436
@rubyred9436 8 жыл бұрын
YES!
@bdydavi2644
@bdydavi2644 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Tombstone reference.
@nemanjanasradin2348
@nemanjanasradin2348 8 жыл бұрын
Long live Finegold! :)
@MSKChess
@MSKChess 8 жыл бұрын
People were booing until their throats were sore LOL
@Mrius86
@Mrius86 7 жыл бұрын
All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Right, Arjen?
@shidqi1435
@shidqi1435 8 жыл бұрын
nice ben
@alexandrefreitas2569
@alexandrefreitas2569 7 жыл бұрын
Is he also a comedy GM?
@LukePettit
@LukePettit 5 жыл бұрын
It's strange how Korchnoi seemed to be the 2nd best (active) player in the 1970s when he was in his 40s, yet I haven't heard much mention of him during his 20s and 30s in the Botvinik-Petrosian-Spassky era when presumably he would be have been a little stronger? I know there were a ton of strong Soviets at that time but he never seems to be mentioned among them.
@BCTMarcus
@BCTMarcus 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting question but, given Korchnoi's extremely long career, almost impossible to answer. Maybe he was less naturally talented than f.i. Petrosian, Tal or Spassky, but, already as a young kid, he decided to devote his life to chess and nothing but chess, so he kept on studying, learning, battling, struggling and surviving. Born in 1931, USSR youth champion in 1947, and 6th in his first USSR overall championship in 1952 (ahead of f.i. Bronstein, Smyslov and Keres!), Korchnoi finally won his first famous tournament in 1956 (Hastings), became USSR champion in 1960, was with the leading pack during the Candidates Tournament of Curaçao 1962 where he eventually fell tired because of the extreme tropical circumstances. He suffered from an ulcer, took a rest, came back and was incredibly strong in the 2nd half of the 1960s. USSR champion again in 1965 (ahead of Bronstein, Tal, Stein, Cholmov, Shamkovich and Averbach) and winning huge tournaments in Erevan 1965 (ahead of f.i. Petrosian, Stein, Portisch, Filip and Averbach), Gyula 1965 (14,5 points out of 15 games!), Sochi 1966 (ahead of Polugeavsky, Krogius and Spassky), Leningrad 1967 and Wijk aan Zee 1968 (just to mention a few). He qualified again for the candidates matches, beating Reshevsky and Tal, and lost the final against Spassky. Qualified again 3 years later, defeating Mecking and losing the semi-finals to Petrosian. Already around that time, 1971/1972, some chess insiders said "Viktor is now 40+ of age, we think that he will never be able to become world champion, despite the fact that he's been a top player for 20 years already." But the 'West World' only really got to know him after 1976, when he won the Amsterdam tournament and asked for policital asylum afterwards. Apparently the 'old man' felt free and liberated after that decision and he became an even stronger player at the age of 45 already… well, I guess that Korchnoi's story after his escape from the USSR and eventually becoming a Swiss citizen, is very well documented and well known in the international chess world. I've always been a huge fan of his ferocious battling attitude, but I think he was also a very complex and difficult person. He was also known for his daunting 'battles' with the chess clock. Korchnoi was really famous for his time trouble problems. Along with Tarrasch, Bronstein and Keres, Korchnoi was among the best chess players who never became world champion. When I heard he died, I really felt sad. But Korchnoi will for ever remain immortal, thanks to his games. Rarely settling for a draw, and always searching for the most complex solutions, both for his opponent and himself.
@revolverocelot6903
@revolverocelot6903 8 жыл бұрын
21:08 Welcome back Ben!
@GolfMonsta
@GolfMonsta 8 жыл бұрын
ben! whoop whoop :)
@cyxFrag
@cyxFrag 8 жыл бұрын
DAMN ! WB DUDE
@kevinmcgrath1052
@kevinmcgrath1052 5 жыл бұрын
Ben for President
@Thekingdeleon
@Thekingdeleon 7 жыл бұрын
What does he say when he sneezes?
@petersiegfriedkrug
@petersiegfriedkrug 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody queen!
@zachary5101
@zachary5101 2 жыл бұрын
I want to buy this man some blue water
@malachickisawesome
@malachickisawesome 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yea
@malachickisawesome
@malachickisawesome Жыл бұрын
Bump
@altgreven9211
@altgreven9211 8 жыл бұрын
You know that Yasser Seirawan made a video about this game before.
@zombieninjapitbull3856
@zombieninjapitbull3856 8 жыл бұрын
yes true, but we all know that yasser's lectures are really bedtime stories, and you fall asleep before you see the entire game
@rosebuster
@rosebuster 8 жыл бұрын
+ZombieNinjaPitbull But if you pay attention, you'll find that Yasser's lectures are actually very instructive.
@zombieninjapitbull3856
@zombieninjapitbull3856 8 жыл бұрын
+Maks Rosebuster yes you are very correct, but that soothing, calm, tranquil voice gets me every time
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
Which is why i watch finegold videos instead of drinking coffee, and i watch Yasser videos when it's my bedtime. Guess why.
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 8 жыл бұрын
We should bring back the first to x number of wins format. Let them sweat it out and fight to the finish
@DavidVaughan00
@DavidVaughan00 8 жыл бұрын
"Quote, unquote... close quote"
@FireBros33
@FireBros33 6 жыл бұрын
SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A "RIGHT ARGEN?" COMPILATION PLEASEEE
@rosebuster
@rosebuster 8 жыл бұрын
21:08 - best moment! I always thought Anish Giri games were boring, but my word doesn't mean much. Now I'm backed by GM Ben Finegold. I also have a friend who's strong and also thinks Giri's games are rarely interesting to follow. But when I criticise Giri's play style for being boring, people in the chats usually say rubbish like "if you don't like Giri's games, it means you don't understand chess"... Pfff... Terrible.
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
I do too.
@foarfield
@foarfield 8 жыл бұрын
FINEGOLD MVP
@briscoelang2436
@briscoelang2436 5 жыл бұрын
10:15 I resigned due to your puns
@azoriusherald
@azoriusherald 8 жыл бұрын
I died when he said crazytown
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
WOOOOOOW
@liver1865
@liver1865 8 жыл бұрын
-_-
@dago6410
@dago6410 5 жыл бұрын
Yea. See his coverage of first game vs what eirawan did in his coverage... TOTALLY different aproach. Seirawan eats him for a dinner as a teacher ;/
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