Katyn - WWII's Forgotten Massacre

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Mark Felton Productions

Mark Felton Productions

3 жыл бұрын

The disturbing story of the Soviet massacre of thousands of Polish officers and intelligentsia at Katyn, Russia in 1940 and the subsequent cover-up and German investigation of the crime scene.
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@brunogrende4360
@brunogrende4360 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me sick, that people on the internet call Stalin their "daddy" and are fans of him.
@Kit_Bear
@Kit_Bear 2 жыл бұрын
That's because they are a bunch of kids who have been easily indoctrinated because young people are naive, gullible and will swallow anything you tell them as truth. This is why Political Parties favour the youth. They don't have the wisdom that comes with age so make stupid decisions that they regret later. If they really knew what he and Communism is like then they would drop them quicker than a used condom.
@unbearifiedbear1885
@unbearifiedbear1885 2 жыл бұрын
Young men need leadership - today we have none, so they look to History for strength, identity, inspiration; many unfortunately find those qualities in tyrants, viewed through rose coloured glass I suspect if those people were in 1940's Soviet Union, they might think differently about "daddy" Lucky them...
@THE_GUY_ONE
@THE_GUY_ONE 2 жыл бұрын
There are also fans of Hitler.
@CrusadersOfYouTube
@CrusadersOfYouTube 2 жыл бұрын
Fate loves irony
@joeneighbor
@joeneighbor 2 жыл бұрын
There is always stupid people around unfortunately. Not said from an position of arrogance. A lot of misinformation from politicians, etc., that think it's in their benefit to constantly lie to people. And the "stupid" part is just accepting things blindly, to keep listening to the same "information" sources that lie to you, and not believing your own eyes when you see the truth..
@dentor11
@dentor11 3 жыл бұрын
its forgotten by the world, not by the polish people
@simonkevnorris
@simonkevnorris 3 жыл бұрын
I've known about Katyn for many years and I've no Polish connection.
@angelzipp
@angelzipp 3 жыл бұрын
It's not forgotten by all means. I was really surprised by the title. Greeting from Canada!
@TheSuspectOnFoot
@TheSuspectOnFoot 3 жыл бұрын
Forgotten maybe by folk that get their "knowledge" from Hollywood movies but anyone that actually knows about war crimes of WW2 beyond holocaust should know Katyn.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
not as forgotten as they want us to believe
@marcusaurelius394
@marcusaurelius394 3 жыл бұрын
Not forgotten by your southern brothers, Croatians. We know who really did it, well at least some of us do. Some still believe it was the "Russians".
@patrickcallaghan8577
@patrickcallaghan8577 Жыл бұрын
Trust me. Those of us in the West who know our history have not "forgotten " Katyn.
@EugeneBartholomewMcJigglebutt
@EugeneBartholomewMcJigglebutt 3 ай бұрын
​@@SPY1987you sound jealous
@onecareusa
@onecareusa 2 ай бұрын
FOR REAL neva FORGOTTEN.........
@JiashenLiu-wr5ko
@JiashenLiu-wr5ko 2 ай бұрын
also remembered by east, i am from China.
@lancegardner8560
@lancegardner8560 2 ай бұрын
The Polish saved the world no less than twice. The hussars live on.
@lancegardner8560
@lancegardner8560 2 ай бұрын
I'm not even a Pole I'm an American. And proud , but I will tell you I'm a proud ally of the Poles. Some of the best war fighters that ever lived..I have utmost respect for them boys.
@ThePunisher8787
@ThePunisher8787 Жыл бұрын
My Great Grandfather, Jozef Bielinski was murdered by the Soviet NKVD at Katyn. He was an army officer in the Polish Army along with his son, my grandpa (dziadek) Adam Bielinksi, who was also an officer in the Polish army, sent to Siberia and later escaped and is the reason why I am here today. My grandpa, very hesitantly made deathbed confessions to my oldest sister, who is fluent in Polish, and wrote down everything my grandpa was saying about the war, Russians and his experience in the gulags. He said two NVKD Officers showed up at his house and took his dad away...he never saw him again and went to his grave not knowing what happened to him. Thank you for sharing this practically unknown war crime in the western world (especially Canada and the US). This means a lot to me and my family.
@ggromio6703
@ggromio6703 10 ай бұрын
Sounds more Jewish then polish
@aw2584
@aw2584 9 ай бұрын
​@@ggromio6703? What does? Man's surname is Bielinski, as Polish as it gets. Not that a native Pole with Polish surname couldn't be Jewish but for the most part, Polish Jews had their own identity and culture including surnames, many of which survived to today in western world (Blumsztajn, Goldblum etc). After all Poland was a safe haven for Jewish refugees from western terror since like 12th century, but point is Jewish religion came from migrants, not "from within" and conversions were very rare so you could usually easily say ones religion by surname.
@olenilsen4660
@olenilsen4660 9 ай бұрын
@@ggromio6703 Are you some kind of neonazi? Because you sound like one. Why would anyones surname instantly tell you their religion?
@Commissar_4735
@Commissar_4735 8 ай бұрын
Escaped, no nobody escape Siberia, probably he was released (many people say this to sound brave)
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse 8 ай бұрын
​@@ggromio6703good lord that's an ignorant comment.
@michaelleodonovan4590
@michaelleodonovan4590 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a Polish officer murdered at Katyn. His widow and her daughter, my mother, were held in a Siberian camp for over a year. Eventually, Catholic missionaries were able to move hundreds of of these Polish citizens to safety in Africa. After the war, they both came to Montreal. My mother married an Irish Montrealer, and I was born. My mother and grandmother are both gone now, but I still live in Montreal, as do my children and two granddaughters. That, my friends, is the circle of life.
@wogule
@wogule 3 жыл бұрын
Please make sure your daughters and granddaughters know their polish roots and history. It may inoculate them to the new post-modernist/Marxist ideas that grow rampant now in the west...
@jasondaniel918
@jasondaniel918 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you can say that your life today is a positive outcome from this tragedy.
@chrisporter9397
@chrisporter9397 3 жыл бұрын
How did the missionaries get the from a work camp to Africa?
@dwightstjohn8549
@dwightstjohn8549 3 жыл бұрын
Canada badly needed lots of immigration. Almost everyone I'm on boards with are from either Germany, Poland, Ukraine, or what was then known as Yugoslavia. All have their stories. All my Commonwealth relations were in infantry in the war years and YEARS before the USA even thought of getting going!!! All survived.
@stanisawnielepkowicz1881
@stanisawnielepkowicz1881 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you are passing on the history of your family and Polish ancestors to kids and grandkids.
@G1b0ss
@G1b0ss 3 жыл бұрын
As a Pole, I thank You for this video. I probably can't even comprehend how history is distorted in other countries due to war propaganda.
@graemelake657
@graemelake657 3 жыл бұрын
Churchills complicity in keeping this hidden should not be forgotten too.
@polishmafia1573
@polishmafia1573 3 жыл бұрын
@@graemelake657 agreed !
@robertborie8479
@robertborie8479 3 жыл бұрын
@@graemelake657 well, consider the options at the time. Yes, the allies could have started calling out the Soviets but war was already on the horizon even after the horrors of WW2. Was it nice that this was swept under the rug? No. But there were real world military and political reasons as to why. As always, it's complicated.
@graemelake657
@graemelake657 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertborie8479 I don't disagree at all. But it is a fact.
@batka6255
@batka6255 3 жыл бұрын
that plane crash was fuckedup. coincedence?
@mariocolic7999
@mariocolic7999 2 жыл бұрын
Man, Poland and it's people suffered so much through history... really a miracle how Poles still exist, such a brave and durable nation Respect from Croatia
@ericpawlowski2051
@ericpawlowski2051 Жыл бұрын
hvala ti kao bratu
@cursed-hm2jn
@cursed-hm2jn 11 ай бұрын
China:Cute
@pete5516
@pete5516 8 ай бұрын
@@cursed-hm2jnexcept China is not one people like the poles are. China is the unification of many different cultures and people that were mostly ruled by one emperor at a time. China is actually an example of the opposite of Poland, where native cultures are being stamped out and silenced, even massacred by the Han chinese.
@robertovalero6186
@robertovalero6186 8 ай бұрын
Bromberg.....research.
@MarcosGarcia-kx4rb
@MarcosGarcia-kx4rb 8 ай бұрын
​@@pete5516and what do you think the polish are...
@fsll1575
@fsll1575 2 жыл бұрын
I meet a polish who was 12 years old when her and her family were captured by the russian. They were in one of those work camp. They escaped during a snow storm to increase their chance of not been capture. They end up in Tanzania for a while before she came to Canada. She often said "I survived Hitler, I survived Stalin" She passed not that long ago from COVID, R.I.P. Stella
@shamane67
@shamane67 Жыл бұрын
From COVID or from another Nazi/US vaccine?
@fsll1575
@fsll1575 Жыл бұрын
@@shamane67 🤦‍♂️
@62nevio
@62nevio 8 ай бұрын
Russian ? You mean Soviet ! Stalin was Georgian and Bary was Jude No Russian on the top in this moment of Soviet Union R.I.P. for all victimes of comunist regime😢😢😢
@supernovaexpress5241
@supernovaexpress5241 8 ай бұрын
@@62nevioYes, this is often forgotten. The Russians held a few top positions while other ethnic groups made up the vast bulk of the Soviet command structure.
@CaptainBlud84
@CaptainBlud84 5 ай бұрын
Well she didn't escape Zion
@mariuszkonieczny3393
@mariuszkonieczny3393 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Polish and this mean a lot to me! Thank You Mark!
@distractionchannel4954
@distractionchannel4954 3 жыл бұрын
Warriors... ZAWSZE 😰🇵🇱🙏
@denisoko8494
@denisoko8494 3 жыл бұрын
Katyn is the biggest one, a lot of polish PoW were killed in others places all over western Red Russia colonies. I know there was Bykivnia near Kyiv in Ukraine with estimated 200 000 murdered by russian communists, most of executed were civilian Ukrainians, but about 6000 were Polish PoW. NKVD sent the very same "group of specialists" to Bykivnia like it was made to Katyn in 1941. And again Red Russia claimed for dozens years that Bykovnia like Katyn was German Nazi, anyway it was proved it was russian communists and their political police AKA NKVD(later KGB), russians occupants initiated executions and created this massive grave in 30th in Ukraine and years before WWII started, and there were a lot of Ukrainian witnesses who could prove that, including my grandmother... under pressure of evidences Moscow confirmed Bykovnia was their responsibilities, not Nazi.
@dovlacro6382
@dovlacro6382 3 жыл бұрын
Full support to Polish brothers from Croatia.
@k0mentator507
@k0mentator507 3 жыл бұрын
@@dovlacro6382 ironic since you did the same things to Serbs...well
@mr.t2553
@mr.t2553 3 жыл бұрын
@@denisoko8494 You mean Soviets. Russians suffered all the same from the Soviet government of the time (where the two main guys were not Russians at all).
@unionsquaregrassman
@unionsquaregrassman 3 жыл бұрын
My wife's grandfather was a general, murdered at Katyn.
@mikeromney4712
@mikeromney4712 3 жыл бұрын
I guess most of the likes above are condolences and not "I like this"......;)
@philipwilliams5808
@philipwilliams5808 3 жыл бұрын
My wife's grandfather was imprisoned at Dachau and died after the war from illness caused by medical experimentation on him by the germans. Every Polish family has a similar history as 20% of Poles died during the war. By comparison my home country, the UK, was hardly touched.
@pawekorczak7302
@pawekorczak7302 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell his surname?
@jugbywellington1134
@jugbywellington1134 3 жыл бұрын
My wife is Polish. One of her great aunts was made a widow by Katyn. It's a massacre that certainly hasn't been forgotten in Poland.
@KapitanGzehotnik
@KapitanGzehotnik 3 жыл бұрын
What was his name?
@joeyj6808
@joeyj6808 8 ай бұрын
In case anyone didn't know - any time the Poles were *inconvenient* to the Allies, they were abandoned by them. Britain and France did so in 1939, and they got no respect throughout the War. People who have *NOT* forgotten Katyn: Poles Polish-Americans Military Historians I fit two of those categories.
@Confluence323
@Confluence323 8 ай бұрын
My father was a Polish cavalry officer in Sept 1939 - his unit was pulling artillery when the Stuka's attacked & destroyed everything. They wandered the woods for days (many went AWOL) and after the Panzers roared past them, they were fortunate enough to surrender to the Germans (rather than Soviets) who treated them well. Eventually he was released from prison camp & escaped to Austria & eventually came over to the American side after the war. That's why I'm here.
@U_Go_Boom
@U_Go_Boom 5 ай бұрын
How was he fortunate to surrender to the Germans? They treated their prisoners even worse.
@Sebaleroma
@Sebaleroma 3 ай бұрын
You’re lucky he wasn’t slavic
@Sebaleroma
@Sebaleroma 3 ай бұрын
Or jewish or whatever
@U_Go_Boom
@U_Go_Boom 3 ай бұрын
Bruh. You expect me to believe that bro just got "treated well" by the Germans.
@Confluence323
@Confluence323 3 ай бұрын
@@U_Go_Boom Officers WERE treated better in POW camps and because the Germans, believe it or not, actually followed the Geneva Convention
@werewolfinlondon6753
@werewolfinlondon6753 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine's grandfather was murdered at Katyn. Evil like this leaves scars for generations.
@pwilliam7559
@pwilliam7559 3 жыл бұрын
My family member was shot there
@proudfirebrand3946
@proudfirebrand3946 3 жыл бұрын
@SuperDave Miorgan you better just be trolling or God help you cuz I won't waste my breath anymore on stupid.
@patrickdoran7474
@patrickdoran7474 3 жыл бұрын
@SuperDave Miorgan You don’t know how old the people making the comment are so be smart
@fredbecker607
@fredbecker607 3 жыл бұрын
@SuperDave Miorgan we still have wwII vets alive. They are in their late 80's and 90's. That is in the range to have grandchildren now alive. Even my kids have a grandfather that fought in the war. You really need to learn your history and try to learn just even a little math.
@johngreene6975
@johngreene6975 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickdoran7474 you are not talking so how are you wasting your breath
@worstwaystodie5763
@worstwaystodie5763 3 жыл бұрын
So sad how the Poles were treated after WW2, even in Britain. Banned from the victory parade, and couldn't return to Communist Poland. Even generals like Sosabowski and Anders ended up working menial jobs.
@apo5895
@apo5895 3 жыл бұрын
Well for the allies everyone who surrender to the Germans and their country seize to exist after an german invasion was considered a loser of the war
@bazej1080
@bazej1080 3 жыл бұрын
@@apo5895 France surrender to the Germans. Even more, after capitulation part of France, so called Vishy, actively supported III Reich during war. Yet France took part in the parade among winners...
@raymondhernandez1486
@raymondhernandez1486 3 жыл бұрын
@@apo5895 what a stupid comment
@michakalwa1464
@michakalwa1464 3 жыл бұрын
@@apo5895 Poland never signed any capitulation with Germany
@Vorpal_Wit
@Vorpal_Wit 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't return?! Many of them, including the pilots who fought in the Battle of Britain, were forceably deported back to Soviet occupied Poland! A condemnation by another name. In my opinion, it is one of Britain's greatest shames that, having entered WWII in protest of the invasion of Poland, it then went on to use Poland's men for its own defense from the Germans, only to then feed those brave few back to the Soviets in a disgusting show of appeasment, and never having fullfilled its promise to free Poland.
@cmsxcb
@cmsxcb Жыл бұрын
My neighbour was one of the Polish troops captured by the Russians. He spent time in a Gulag until he was released after the German invasion of the USSR. He and his friends hitched south until they reached Persia where they enlisted in the British army. He eventually arrived in England and trained as a paratrooper. He took part in the Arnhem battle and was one of the few to escape back to Allied lines. In the 1990's, his suicide capsule was dug up by roadworkers in the town and returned to him (empty of course).
@e4e5e2e7
@e4e5e2e7 2 ай бұрын
Wow. 😮
@AlViGachess
@AlViGachess 2 ай бұрын
Lol. He was "in the Gulag" as a soldier of Anders' army, armed and supplied by the Soviet government in hard days, when the Nazis was near Moscow. But this army was completely unwilling to go to the Soviet front against Nazis. Therefore, they were eventually sent to Iran, under allies command. Yes, they fought a little bit for allies at WW2, but not very much. That time, in the USSR, the second Polish army was formed. Berling's army liberated Poland, and stormed Berlin, among other things. Bloody soviets formed two field armies from polish "prisoners of war, tortured in the Gulag", interned in 1939 soldiers, in fact. Some of them were killed near Katyn at 1940. Or maybe at 1941. By bloody commies. Or by bloody nazis.
@JacksonG.F.
@JacksonG.F. Жыл бұрын
The US National Katyn Memorial is located here in my home city of Baltimore, Maryland. Although it is sited in a very prominent location, very few of our city's residents are aware of the full scope of what it commemorates. Thank you for sharing this chapter in history.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 3 жыл бұрын
Well, having lived in Krakow, I can tell you Katyn ain't forgotten in *Poland*. Thanks to Mark for helping remind the wider world about it.
@exchequerguy4037
@exchequerguy4037 3 жыл бұрын
When Solidarity was born in 1980, Time magazine intimated that the massacre was well-known in Poland, despite communist attempts to suppress it.
@richardmalcolm1457
@richardmalcolm1457 3 жыл бұрын
@@exchequerguy4037 Absolutely.
@JK360noscope
@JK360noscope Жыл бұрын
The communists signed the order, along with Anti-Polish deportations and executions throughout Soviet Ukraine, where there were many Polish people. Now there are next to none, which should indicate what happened.
@conservativethought1460
@conservativethought1460 3 жыл бұрын
There's a statue in Jersey City commemorating this massacre. The mayor actually tried to have it removed when they were redoing the waterfront area and it caused such an uproar that the statue stayed.
@brutal_chud
@brutal_chud 3 жыл бұрын
@Nineleven Treason Himmel
@christianpethukov8155
@christianpethukov8155 3 жыл бұрын
What the hell was he thinking?
@conservativethought1460
@conservativethought1460 3 жыл бұрын
@Nineleven Treason Steve Fulop he still holds office today
@conservativethought1460
@conservativethought1460 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianpethukov8155 That's what a lot of people were wondering. The excuse given was that since the statue was somewhat macabre it shouldn't there on the redeveloped waterfront where it might disturb people. You can't make this stuff up.
@halibut1249
@halibut1249 3 жыл бұрын
Where is it in J.C.?
@MARCELGRAF-ej4lb
@MARCELGRAF-ej4lb 2 ай бұрын
I read about Katyn as a Swiss teenager in a German book, „Geheime Kommandosache“. Never forgot this.
@gregkerr725
@gregkerr725 8 ай бұрын
I've always questioned why the French and British declared war on Germany because of the German invasion of Poland but did not declare war on the Soviet Union for their simultaneous invasion of Poland. And then after hundreds of thousands of Poles escaped occupation and came to fight alongside the western allies, those same allies allowed the USSR to occupy Poland and make it part of the USSR.
@Jebe_Noyon
@Jebe_Noyon 2 ай бұрын
It’s because WW1 and WW2 were engineered to enable the conquest of Europe by the Anglo American empire. It’s still happening now
@Salman-sc8gr
@Salman-sc8gr 2 ай бұрын
Banker's wars buddy.
@Jermster_91
@Jermster_91 3 жыл бұрын
The Germans got one thing right, the Soviets would try to blame them on the massacre.
@zanejohnson89
@zanejohnson89 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin General order #0428
@Void_Wars
@Void_Wars 3 жыл бұрын
lol you act like Germans weren’t genocidal maniacs.
@voxelstein3680
@voxelstein3680 3 жыл бұрын
No he's not ''acting'' like Germans weren't genocidal he's stating the obvious that the germans conducted a real investigation and proved that soviets were behind this.
@IGNACY-fp8zo
@IGNACY-fp8zo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Void_Wars - “Not literally praying to Stalin means that you’re a Nazi apologist”
@dixxon28
@dixxon28 3 жыл бұрын
The Germans even notified Polish government in Uk when they were advancing into Russia and discovered all this massacre in Katyn, all tho no one believed them until after the war
@matheoo41
@matheoo41 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad you have not left out the role of Sikorski and his *extremely convenient* death, even though you’re British. It just goes to show how impartial your work is. Thanks a lot.
@elrjames7799
@elrjames7799 3 жыл бұрын
matheoo41. Yeah: 'extremely convenient': like Fritz Todd, Glen Miller, Toivo Antikainen, et alia. All subjects of 'conspiracy theory' B*llshi**ers.
@lucas82
@lucas82 3 жыл бұрын
the pilot of that aircraft was the only survivor of the crash though. If it had been an assassination the perpetrators surely would not have allowed him to live.
@elrjames7799
@elrjames7799 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucas82 how is the premise of the first sentence a logical justification for the conclusion in the latter? That's the logical fallacy of 'begging the question' (not-with-standing the absence of evidence for an assassination), isn't it?
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucas82 Most likely the plane was sabotaged by a pro-Soviet agent.
@nelsonphilip4520
@nelsonphilip4520 3 жыл бұрын
@@elrjames7799 What does the data show? It's not 'conspiracy theory' , it's conjecture. My parents were big fans of Glen Miller and it's such a tragedy that he, along with multi millions of other humans died in that truly global conflict.
@williamwasilewski7925
@williamwasilewski7925 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather escaped from Poland and my grandmother shared what had happened with my ancestors who were captured by Russia and Murdered. I became a soldier and Army chaplain. RIP🙏🏻
@user-fv5ms4sz8e
@user-fv5ms4sz8e Жыл бұрын
Mark, you should get a Pulitzer for this kind of superb investigative reporting. What I find so very disturbing, is the flippant disregard for human life, that people possess. Where these psychopaths delude themselves into believing it's okay and even their legal right, to murder others and not just another person, but millions upon millions of people. This kind of history should be convincing us all, that the consolidation of power into the hands of the few, is fatal for the many.
@adielstephenson2929
@adielstephenson2929 9 ай бұрын
Pulitzer prize? Don't overdo it. None of this is new.
@NaughtyTeache12
@NaughtyTeache12 8 ай бұрын
Superb investigative reporting? The massacre at Katyn is common knowledge freely available. Amazon lists immediately 12 books upon searching the subject 'Katyn'. Just because you've never heard of it before doesn't make it a forgotten or repressed mystery to anyone else. Although British, Katyn has never been forgotten by many people of my generation.
@ksd593
@ksd593 8 ай бұрын
what we should find disturbing as well is the flipping disregard for billions of animal lives every year that end up in concentration camps of modern farms and then get executed in death camps, the slaughterhouses. they are persons too but most of us do not see this with their limitted vision. this massacre is totally forgotten and rarely has been reported. (your comment triggered me... i will repost this) One of the karmic reasons why eastern europe might have suffered so much is due to their farming culture. if we accept the simple concepts of eternity of our consciousness (the soul), it's transition in many lifeforms that can accommodate it's presence and in karma that is the result of it's mental impressions comming from actions, killing of others as one of them... then we might have less wars...
@sochaoracza1506
@sochaoracza1506 8 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, several SOBs died in 1990-1995. Well-known by the russians who they are. Never answered for it. It is the reason for our russoreality, not the russophobia.
@lanea4642
@lanea4642 3 ай бұрын
​@@ksd593what are we supposed to do then, dont eat meat and live off a vegan or vegetarian diet ??? Get real
@bcask61
@bcask61 3 жыл бұрын
There is memorial to this in my hometown in Pennsylvania. At a large Polish Catholic church.
@braidenvogt8181
@braidenvogt8181 3 жыл бұрын
Hey what city if you don’t mind me asking?
@razz0rric106
@razz0rric106 3 жыл бұрын
Really ?
@loocpoc
@loocpoc 3 жыл бұрын
It's in Doylestown PA outside of Philadelphia. Baltimore also has one
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of Polish descendants in our fair Commonwealth. Great people with excellent food.
@tomf.2327
@tomf.2327 3 жыл бұрын
Same in Jersey City, NJ right on the waterfront. Giant statue of a polish offer being bayoneted in the back
@bombsawaylemay770
@bombsawaylemay770 3 жыл бұрын
Poland receiving the the short end of the stick during WW2 is an understatement.
@garyjordan6913
@garyjordan6913 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't get the short end of the stick , they got the shaft plain and simple .
@craycraykian508
@craycraykian508 3 жыл бұрын
Even after ww2 this was the case, as the soviets got away with not just half of poland but the entire country after ww2
@M167A1
@M167A1 3 жыл бұрын
My mother, whose famly escaped from Soviet Ukraine commented Ukraine and Poland are islands that only emerge when Russia and Germany are weakened."
@natalielodean5948
@natalielodean5948 3 жыл бұрын
@@M167A1 Wow, that sounds completely true. I've read somewhere that Ukraine says that it has been what makes democracy possible for the rest of Europe.
@ipainthouses9591
@ipainthouses9591 3 жыл бұрын
They have more reason than most to be nationalistic.
@ryszardkaminski9402
@ryszardkaminski9402 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandad lies in the forest at Miednoje, may God rest his soul. Thank you Mark for what you do.
@surty8406
@surty8406 3 ай бұрын
Skill issue
@TPWFG
@TPWFG 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was captured & on the train to Katyn . When the train stopped to take in water, some of the railway workers opened his car to see what was inside. My grandfather & others escaped, and he went back to his village. When I was a child, my father told me one of the ways the Red Cross identified the Soviets as the perpetrators was that, although shot with German guns, they had all been tied up with Russian rope. I still have my grandfather’s medal in my desk.
@PrzemyslawKarol
@PrzemyslawKarol 3 жыл бұрын
As a Pole, I thank you for highlighting this massacre to rest of the world.
@ThisCanNotBTheFuture
@ThisCanNotBTheFuture 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not Polish, but I'd describe what the Soviets did to the Poles a sort of mini-genocide. All decent people should condemn the hammer and sickle similar to the way we condemn the swastika.
@benadam7753
@benadam7753 3 жыл бұрын
@ozymandias nullifidian Than you would also have to include the Union Jack!
@ThisCanNotBTheFuture
@ThisCanNotBTheFuture 3 жыл бұрын
@ozymandias nullifidian An infantile comparison. Also, you're confusing the use of symbol to represent a country, vs. the use of a symbol to represent an ideology that explicitly called for mass violence.
@ThisCanNotBTheFuture
@ThisCanNotBTheFuture 3 жыл бұрын
Uh oh, the commie sympathizers are in a tizzy. The Union Jack isn't used to represent a violent ideology, so the comparison is a stretch at best. And while many nations have committed crimes, I don't recall the British mowing down thousands of humans for being "enemies" of an ideology (as the Stalinists most certainly did) in the modern era.
@funkymoney3373
@funkymoney3373 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThisCanNotBTheFuture Hammer and sickle represents an ideology that, in its core and theory, doesn't represent anything evil. Communism and socialism are ideas based on equality of all people, meanwhile the Nazi ideology is based on racism and hate. Most people who call themselves communists and socialists today (there are many) condemn the Soviet crimes. Hammer and sickle should be allowed for use.
@EthanKnight97
@EthanKnight97 3 жыл бұрын
It frustrates me when many historians and documentaries forget about the Soviets involvement in the invasion of Poland, let alone thier atrocities. Great work Mark.
@alejandrorojas1423
@alejandrorojas1423 3 жыл бұрын
They are not just "forgetting" my dude. Communists intentionally down played this kind of stuff throughout the entire cold war and still try and do it now.
@jak00bspyr72
@jak00bspyr72 3 жыл бұрын
@typo pit By "negotiations" you mean giving up Danzig to Germany with all the benefits Poland was given in the Free City of Danzig in the Versailles Treaty, allowing Germans to build an exterritorial highway, and all of this in exchange for a mere promise of giving up on claims on the region of Greater Poland? You expect Polish government not only to accept such an unfair "agreement", but also to believe Hitler who broke his promises one after another? Not only that, German "ultimatum" was not even an "ultimatum". Germany did not send to Poland any ultimatum that would meet the definition of a diplomatic act. Polish government was left with nothing to answer to. It was made in such a way it wont be accepted. Hitler wanted war. He needed war. You cannot deny it.
@robinloxley205
@robinloxley205 3 жыл бұрын
Do not forget also the massacre of Poles by the soviet and Nazi Ukranian forces, I met one (now deceased) who had to leave Ukraine after 1945, who came here and was still receiving a pension from the Germans, in the 1990',having served as a Policeman of some kind in ww2.
@bobthebuilder3615
@bobthebuilder3615 3 жыл бұрын
@@johndoe-ss9bz they didn't because they knew they couldn't win war against a unified Russia and Germany and the guarantee of independence was only against Germany so they didn't have to nor want too
@wonniewarrior
@wonniewarrior 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dman3827 Aww you little history revisionist. Let me educate you my friend. Lets see, in the late 1930s during the spanish civil war, the Condor legion (luftwaffe) terror bombed spanish towns and cities with their ol mate Franco. In 1939, the nazi germans terror bombed Warsaw and many other Polish towns and cities, along with Russia also terror bombing Poland after 17th September 1939. In 1940 during the invasion of France, the luftwaffe would terror bomb and machine gun French civilians fleeing the fighting therefore impeding French military reinforcements from getting to the fight in a timely manner. The german nazis also terror bombed Amsterdam and many other European towns and cities during their invasion including in 1940 in Norway, Belgium, Netherlands and others. The luftwaffe also terror bombed London, Coventary and many other towns and cities in the UK. The nazi germans massacred whole towns and villages in Europe, including the famous few in France, Poland, Russia and Ukraine as so called 'reprisals' for resistance. And who was on the sidelines cheering on these terror bombings ? Why the german civilians of course. I had access to the original SIGNAL magazines in High School that was put out by the German ministry of News. The german nazi civilians cheered on the terror bombing of others even before WW2, yet you now spout bullshit at how the german nazi civilians were victims ? Oh and dont forget WW1 where German zeppelins and later the Goeathe ? Bombers would terror bomb London during WW1, a tactic they refined and used to a greater extent in WW2.
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 4 ай бұрын
I was raised with this horror story. My father was taken by the Soviets and served as a translator when they occupied eastern Europe. He witnessed the aftermath of this massacre when the Soviet army scrambled to bury the bodies in the woods in an attempt to cover it up. It was very hush hush and all were told not to never to say anything. When i lived in Germany in the 80s nobody I talked to had ever heard of this including war veterans and teachers. When the iron curtain came down, it all came out.
@Exotic3000
@Exotic3000 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Mark Felden… you are amazing. Great job! ❤ And God Bless the Polish people!
@fishsmiddy1048
@fishsmiddy1048 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad people are talking about this, it’s history that deserves to be remembered.
@CaymanIslandsCatWalks
@CaymanIslandsCatWalks 3 жыл бұрын
lol to quote the history guy haha
@Void_Wars
@Void_Wars 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s nazi propaganda
@objectiveopinion1566
@objectiveopinion1566 3 жыл бұрын
@@Void_Wars go to north korea. that's the right place for u. 😂😂😂
@Eire_Aontaithe
@Eire_Aontaithe 3 жыл бұрын
@@Void_Wars The scariest part is that there are people like you, that believe it's just propaganda.
@sebji9581
@sebji9581 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eire_Aontaithe Yes, it's true. This is propaganda. The Soviets started offensive only after the Polish government was on the Romanian border and it became clear that Polish had been defeated. The territories that were returned to Soviet union were captured by Poland in 1919-21 when Russia was weakened by the civil war. These territories were inhabited mainly by Ukrainians and Belorusians. Even Great Britain and France didn't object. So Soviet union just got its own back.
@Aguerreable
@Aguerreable 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather, a war veteran of 1920 (war against Soviet Union), who was enlisted to Polish Army as an officer in communication unit in September 1939 - was kept in Katyn as POW. He avoided being murdered by Russians due to his hobby. A little known fact about the NKWD selection of POWs. Obviously, at first the uniform and distinctions mattered. But later the NKWD realized that some of officers were exchanging their uniforms with privates and NCOs (in Polish Army, the officer's field uniform differed from private's, so removing distinctions was not a solution). So NKWD used additional parameter of selection - appearance of hands. In Polish Army, same as in others european armies, officers were from so called 'good families' mostly: belonging to middle and high class, well educated, mental working, like it was stated in video: teachers, lawyers, doctors, engineers etc. - their hands were smooth and manicured. There was a saying, that 'an officer has hands smooth like a lady'. In contrast, privates and NCOs, who were from lower class, with hands marked with hard physical work. At the commision, my grandfather, in his officer's uniform, was ordered to show his hands. His hobby, wood carving and wicker weaving which made his hands tough, chunky and scarred, saved his life. Despite of his uniform, Russians classified him as a nonofficer and assigned him to the transport to Syberian labor camps. He escaped the transport with some companions soon after and returned to family.
@justinsare1376
@justinsare1376 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@HITGFRY
@HITGFRY 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing story.
@Jacus1968
@Jacus1968 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother's two of elder brothers didn't have that luck (one was teacher, second one police officer). They were officially missing. NKWD had capture them. All that left, were one family picture. Rest of the pictures were burnt. My grandmother always loud says a prayer for them, when we gather on Christmas Eve so I know the story. I've showed that story to my grandmother, while she is still alive. She was deeply touched, and she said a prayer for You Mark Felton. Thanks Mark Felton for telling the truth on YT, and for your astonishing historical work.
@arneheeringa96
@arneheeringa96 2 жыл бұрын
I have met a polish officer that was hit by lightning in 1938 and spent the war in the hospital. Otherwise he would have probably died in Katyn. On the same trip I met the Orthodox military chaplain who was later to become bishop and died in the plane crash at Smolensk. He showed us his picture in polish uniform, that was printed in the media after the desaster. That's the way I heard about it and could tell his godson in time for the funeral.
@elizabethblake1140
@elizabethblake1140 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jacus1968 9
@davidbamford1971
@davidbamford1971 7 ай бұрын
Excellent and informative piece Mark, my only slight issue would be I don't think it's a forgotten massacre. It's particularly not forgotten in Poland.
@danialeatherman8934
@danialeatherman8934 7 ай бұрын
Good point
@williamkurzenberger4607
@williamkurzenberger4607 2 жыл бұрын
In every war, people suffer. I will make the argument, however, that no country was betrayed as badly as Poland. They were invaded on both sides, while "allies" did little or nothing to help. Later in the war, when the Soviets "liberated" Poland, rape, theft, murder, and beatings were inflicted on the Poles. As I have heard some Poles declare, it was terrible when the Germans occupied their country, but it was worse when The Red Army came through.
@fergusmallon1337
@fergusmallon1337 3 жыл бұрын
Many Poles made their way to Canada and Toronto has a large population. In the West end of the north of the Garner expressway, there is a lovely little park with a large granite boulder slashed down the center. The park and boulder are dedicated to those slain in the Katyn forest.
@tazman5722
@tazman5722 3 жыл бұрын
It's called the "Gardiner" Expressway, not Garner. And the memorial is in the Beaty Boulevard Parkette.
@TreatzTMA
@TreatzTMA 3 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it!! How long has it been there? I first saw it on the back of Triumph’s Allied Forces album, 1980 (I believe Rik Emmett is at least part Polish). It is just south of Toronto’s Little Poland neighborhood
@fergusmallon1337
@fergusmallon1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@TreatzTMA I am a retired police officer and I patroled the Parkdale area in the early 90s. It was there then.
@tazman5722
@tazman5722 3 жыл бұрын
Fergus, I have not been to the park, but I looked it up on the internet and the monument I saw was not a boulder, but a bronze block. Have they changed it since you last saw it ?
@fergusmallon1337
@fergusmallon1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@tazman5722 I have not seen it in a very long time so what you saw is probably correct. I think I will visit it the next nice day. It will get me out of the house and be a reminder of all the horror that still exists in the world
@Seltheros
@Seltheros 3 жыл бұрын
I've learned about this in Hungary. Two Hungarian officers were shot too, who were serving in the Polish Army at the time. Emánuel Aladár Korompay was at reserve captain, and lector of the Hungarology section of the Warsaw University, writer of the first Polish-Hungarian dictionary. The other person was Oskar Rudolf Kuehnel, a German-Hungarian who served as a artillery officer who was captured at the beginning of the Soviet offensive. May they rest in peace beside their brothers... Béke poraikra...
@andrzejstoszek4035
@andrzejstoszek4035 3 жыл бұрын
Moja Mama ur 1933.2018 otrzymala obnizone zachowanie za powiedzenie kto zrobil i wezwano rodzicuw pozdrawiam Wegirskiego Przyjaciela
@blackbird3484
@blackbird3484 3 жыл бұрын
There shall be no peace. The cultures around this planet are in shambles! There is no core to people who have been subjected to the crap from Hollywood in the United States! We have exported trash for over 100 years! There is no peace by the hand of man. Only God has the power to influence. We are not going to have a lasting peace within ourselves or in our countries with out the creator of the universe, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ first of all, made everything that is in existence, John 1: 1-3 and Colossians 1: 15-17.
@bernardgreer7834
@bernardgreer7834 3 жыл бұрын
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@deputy_commander7595
@deputy_commander7595 3 жыл бұрын
NKVD is responsible. Stalin ordered them to purge everyone who disagreed with him. NKVD is Stalin's puppets.
@andysochanik7269
@andysochanik7269 10 ай бұрын
That is interesting. I didn't know about this. By being a lecturer at a University, the poor man signed his own death warrant. An intelligent human being - there was no room for those in Stalins world! :(
@chrisstrebor
@chrisstrebor 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely terrible man. Never heard of his story. Brutal. So much needless death brushed under the rug it's insane. Thanks for sharing there story Mark.
@LeicaM11
@LeicaM11 2 ай бұрын
Did you not learn any history in your school?😢
@jaredevildog6343
@jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын
High quality as always. Thank you Dr. Felton for what you proved with your videos and books. Please keep it up. 👍 SEMPER FI !
@WeatherBarroon2
@WeatherBarroon2 3 жыл бұрын
The polish are tough people, they’ve been through a lot. Nothing but respect.
@erich3071
@erich3071 3 жыл бұрын
pfff
@paxmule
@paxmule 3 жыл бұрын
The world loves a winner - so, sorry.
@andreichivu7653
@andreichivu7653 3 жыл бұрын
Poland was three times divided between Czarists,Austro-hungarians and germans,last time betrayed by long time allies Britain,and borders moved away... and still exist !! RESPECT !!
@andreichivu7653
@andreichivu7653 3 жыл бұрын
@@erich3071 are you still a Waffen SS. commander Priebke ?
@deisk2707
@deisk2707 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the polish people have terrible country neighbors, even in history too.
@dhowe5180
@dhowe5180 3 жыл бұрын
It’s incredible that a polish nation still exists
@dietmarbottcher5900
@dietmarbottcher5900 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Incredible • and that a Polish Nation-state was established after forced Peaceagreement (Brest-Litovsk) on the demand of the German Kaiser, after defeating Russia in WW1.
@dwayne1625
@dwayne1625 3 жыл бұрын
I get it... incredible
@ljubomirculibrk4097
@ljubomirculibrk4097 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible it is that they dont hate English to, since they used and betrayed Poles most. Looked the other way at the start of the war, used Poles as cannon foder and at the end of the war left them to the Soviets.
@khem931
@khem931 3 жыл бұрын
There were 4 incidents when Poland was attacked by its neighbours in this kind of fashion. The longest period Poland wasn't on Europe's map was about 200 years!
@martinjohnson9316
@martinjohnson9316 3 жыл бұрын
@@ljubomirculibrk4097 As an englishman i have a great respect for the polish nation and am embarrassed that my country has not, or not to my knowledge, apologised to Poland.
@lynxrufus2007
@lynxrufus2007 4 ай бұрын
I lost five close cousins in Katyń, and several further ones more... Thank you for this video, you are one of the most honest and valuable history creators on YT, and I salute you.
@garybradford8332
@garybradford8332 8 ай бұрын
I first learned of the Katyn massacre after seeing the Katyn Memorial in Jersey City, NJ. The statue is of a well dressed Polish officer, hands bound behind him, pierced in the back by a bayonet attached to a floating rifle. It's disturbing to see.
@TomBorgia
@TomBorgia 3 жыл бұрын
In the mid 1980’s, during his retirement in Florida, I met the highest ranking American POW who had been captured in the North African campaign. He was taken by the Germans to witness the exhumation under the Nazis to prove the prisoners had been killed early on in the war by the Soviets contrary to what the Stalin had said. Just like in this video, he mentioned that there was no wear on their boots and the uniforms were basically new. A career Army officer, he was pulled out of combat in the Korean War and brought before Congress where he was sworn to secrecy. Because I was familiar with the massacre (I had read about it it in the book "Khrushchev Remembers”), he was more than willing to open up and talk to me. We knew for so long yet the truth was repressed for political reasons.
@mrd7067
@mrd7067 3 жыл бұрын
To my understanding it has been established twice in court that the germans were reponsible for Katyn. What is your source on that the uk and US judges dismissed the charges at the nuermberg trials? It`s my understanding that they just didn`t speak about it at the sentencing which in itself was framed more universal. I`f i`m informed right it`s even illegal in france to claim that the sowjets are responsible for the Katyn massacre like the russians said in 1990 and 2010. It`s the Gassot Act. If i remember right at the trial in russia there was a lot of evidence, eye witness reports and even a confession or confessions by germans who then were hung. What does this and other things tells us on the track record of the sowjet trials. As for the nuermberg trials: International military tribunal charter Article 19 "the tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence..." Article 21 "The tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof" It is known by now that prisoners and defendents have been tortured to get confessions. How is it that you risk jail in european countries for things that israeli history prof Yehuda Bauer states since atleast 1992 ? There are a lot more problems with this trials and there is a lot more in general.
@roddyteague6246
@roddyteague6246 3 жыл бұрын
I take what you say as correct. In the UK it was published in the late 1960s (Purnells Second World War) that the Soviets were responsible for Katyn. The Editor was Barrie Pitt who stood up to the then (as now) clamour of denial with proof which was verified by the Red Cross who had inspected the bodies of murdered men. What I do not understand is why Truman & then Eisenhower said nothing? Politically they had everything to gain during the fevered Macarthyism when most US politicians (with a few honourable exceptions) supported or at best stayed silent during the witch hunt. Not Americas finest hour.
@mrd7067
@mrd7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@roddyteague6246 Eisenhower is easy. He isn`t as clean as you think. You can find a clear distinction between the areas where Eisenhower took german POWs and occupied germany and other US generals did the same (Patton as probably the most prominent example. It has even been alledged that Eisenhower had his fingers in the death of Patton). If you are interested in such things just look at the rhine medow camps for which Eisenhower is mainly responsible. If i`m informed right it is still illegal for germany to prosecute or even investigate warcrimes that the allies committed between 1939-1949. That includes but is not limmited to the rhine medow camps. It`s also worth to take a deeper look at the liberation of Dachau and Buchenwald as well as Mauthausen and what surrounds it. Especially crimes ant the trials that followed and what the staff there as well as historians and politicans today say about them. Especially the allied warcrimes that tend to get blacked out (if it`s mentioned at all then only a very small part of them).
@mrd7067
@mrd7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@beyondalpha1072 Agreed. I think it has to do with germanophobie. It`s all over. Try to find a english speaking movie where a german is the good guy/with the good guys if he isn`t acting against other germans. It`s even hard to find in german movies.
@Barabel22
@Barabel22 3 жыл бұрын
@@beyondalpha1072 Mark Felton is a WWII Historian and in WWII, Germany WAS one of the bad guys. If you don’t think they were evil in what they did and what they had planned, then I don’t know what else to say.😟😒
@KapitanGzehotnik
@KapitanGzehotnik 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather (father of my Father) was imprisoned in Starobielsk POW camp, because he served in the Polish air force as an officer. He survived the massacre - he was released due to intervention of Lithuanian embassy in Moscow, because he was Lithuanian descent. He was one of a very few ever saved from Katyn massacre. During the stay in the camp, one of the fellow military chaplains predicted that my Grandfather would survive as the only one from their circle. Only 395 Polish officers (out of 22 000) were not murdered by NKVD in Katyn, Kharkov and Mednoye. He later served in the Soviet air force and survived the war. I had this fortune that I have met him and spent with him my childhood. He never wanted to speak about anything from the war. He passed away 14 years ago. In the name of him and his murdered colleagues I want to thank you.
@mirola73
@mirola73 3 жыл бұрын
Your grand father served the people that actually wanted to kill him and all his friends and colleagues. He was probably forced, not having a choice.
@KapitanGzehotnik
@KapitanGzehotnik 3 жыл бұрын
@@mirola73 he was forced, as well as 100 000 drafted into Red Army. Well, it was still better than shot in the head, don't you think?
@ageingviking5587
@ageingviking5587 3 жыл бұрын
@@KapitanGzehotnik I agree . Look at how many others were forced into similar situations . (I don't mean like Katyn) I mean being forced into service , Denmark, Sweden ,Norway , even if they were not forced to fight they were forced labor ... I am Glad your Grand father survived .
@user-pretender77
@user-pretender77 3 жыл бұрын
If you start to be interested in historical materials, compare different points of view,you will understand that there was no NKVD there.And this video is pure politics.
@ageingviking5587
@ageingviking5587 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-pretender77 I believe his grand fathers point of view because he was there!
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 8 ай бұрын
And Russia has not changed at all
@sedzialaguna
@sedzialaguna Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! We will never forget! Cześć i chwała bohaterom!
@racingraptor4758
@racingraptor4758 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Poland we remember. And we never forget about that tragedy.
@georgelyddane8283
@georgelyddane8283 3 жыл бұрын
God bless Poland from USA, it’s honestly sickening seeing all the genocide that happened in your country, and they still don’t even talk about what the Soviets had done to it
@Changnoi12
@Changnoi12 3 жыл бұрын
When the German troops discovered the mass graves of Polish officers near Smolensk (Katyn massacre) in April 1943, Sikorski turned to the International Committee of the Red Cross in Switzerland with a request for a neutral investigation on the spot. This gave Stalin the pretext to break off relations with the Polish government-in-exile at the beginning of May 1943, even before Sikorski withdrew the inquiry on May 4th under British pressure.
@alexanderrahl482
@alexanderrahl482 3 жыл бұрын
@@davecopp9356 And the world remembers how your people murdered over eleven million people systematically in konzentrationslagers.
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 3 жыл бұрын
@@davecopp9356 Stop lying.
@noop9k
@noop9k 3 жыл бұрын
And till today Lukashenko’s govt is still trying to erase the proof of the crimes committed by USSR.
@captaincapitalism9535
@captaincapitalism9535 2 жыл бұрын
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is one of the most dangerous lies we’ve ever told ourselves.
@michaelsuerth1448
@michaelsuerth1448 11 ай бұрын
The enemy of my enemy is just another enemy!
@TheGuitarReb
@TheGuitarReb 8 ай бұрын
Well that what Patton told Gen. Ike and the President but they would not listen to him. Strange how he died in that auto accident?@@michaelsuerth1448
@Bowidog
@Bowidog 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff Mark. I really appreciate and enjoy these videos.
@TheGeneralGrievous19
@TheGeneralGrievous19 9 ай бұрын
Even more forgotten is so called "Polish operation" of NKVD in 1938. Over 100 thousand Poles were murdered and many more persecuted during the Great Terror. In fact during September '39 many Poles form Eastern Poland actually fled from the Soviets to the German occupied territority, it was said that being a Pole in the Soviet Union was as bad as being a Jew in Nazi Germany. My grandmother (born in 1939) and her family that lived in countryside in Podlachia ended up in Warsaw during the occupation and Warsaw Uprising.
@bessarion1771
@bessarion1771 2 жыл бұрын
In 1980s, in Polish schools, we wrote on the walls "We will avenge Katyn!" If caught, we risked an arrest....
@vlad_47
@vlad_47 Күн бұрын
Defiant displays of a chihuaha nation
@jtukko
@jtukko 2 жыл бұрын
New people will not forget this tragedy, thanks to Mark!
@edelweiss2971
@edelweiss2971 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Mark for all your work and history videos. You are doing a great work.
@vgames6792
@vgames6792 2 ай бұрын
Yah, he could do Volhynia massacre of Poles next
@yaromirgusev2616
@yaromirgusev2616 3 жыл бұрын
As a russian dude, i am quite ashamed of what happened. There is a book called icebreaker by victor suvorov describing further collaborations between soviets and nazis. Its a good read.
@yaromirgusev2616
@yaromirgusev2616 3 жыл бұрын
@Bardia ghanbarzade ill give it a read. Thanks for the suggestion!
@yaromirgusev2616
@yaromirgusev2616 3 жыл бұрын
@Bardia ghanbarzade i'll certainly take a look
@Wiktorino1984
@Wiktorino1984 3 жыл бұрын
Russia should abandon soviet legacy, its not wealthy.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaromirgusev2616 It's very sad. I suppose the NKVD had got used to shooting people a few years earlier during the Yezhovshina. At least they never did it again (so far as I know).
@shawnv123
@shawnv123 Жыл бұрын
@@Wiktorino1984 bruh they have a mix soviet and russian empire legacy since 1991 and ever since then…
@tomgrab100
@tomgrab100 3 жыл бұрын
"...extremely convenient Sikorski death" well said
@robinloxley205
@robinloxley205 3 жыл бұрын
Commander Crabb was involved in the search off the coast of Gibraltar, he also suffered a very unexplained ending. Ironic that only the Pilot survived from the Sikorski crash. People should also remember that General Sosabowski the polish parachute commander at Arnhem, a very capable and caring man, was dismissed and side-lined for standing up for his men.
@sebastianbeaussier6197
@sebastianbeaussier6197 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinloxley205 The pilot was badly injured though and proved later in life to be no commie lover. More intriguing is the fact Kim philby, a soviet agent within british intel, was serving at gibraltar at that time.
@jozefbubez6116
@jozefbubez6116 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinloxley205 Unfortunately, Polish leaders were always a "thorn in the flesh" with regard to the Allies' dealings with Stalin who was able to redraw the post-war map of Europe according to his wishes! The Allies should have supported the Soviets only to the extent necessary to defeat Hitler simultaneously bringing about the downfall of Stalin.
@ZVDhunter861
@ZVDhunter861 3 жыл бұрын
@ozymandias nullifidian there's a fine line in what could have reasonably been done, don't try to distort it
@MrBlackHawk888
@MrBlackHawk888 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZVDhunter861 He is obviously not the one who started distorting your "fine line". Or shall i draw another line? About what should have Allies done in 1939 or should not have done in 1938? Stop painting world in black and white - there is no one righteous.
@benisaten
@benisaten 11 ай бұрын
This was an absolutely fanatastic video. Thank you, Dr. Felton. 👍
@williamgardiner4956
@williamgardiner4956 2 жыл бұрын
Mark, I'm sure that one day soon you will be Knighted for your epic knowledge and for informing a world that knows little of what actually happened in that war.People like you are priceless.
@Baronfell1
@Baronfell1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, being a Polish citizen and knowing the history of Katyn, I really appreciate you making a video about this often forgotten episode of Soviet brutality.
@frantisekondrus52
@frantisekondrus52 3 жыл бұрын
NO Soviet!!!! German and Ukrajinian NAZI! Polish killed 28 000 soviet soldiers in 1921.
@dariuszmokrzynski1492
@dariuszmokrzynski1492 3 жыл бұрын
Stop lying. The Soviets killed Polish officers, not Germabs or Ukrainians. And stop spreading the Soviet propaganda about the mordering Soviet soldiers, because that's not true.
@frantisekondrus52
@frantisekondrus52 3 жыл бұрын
@@dariuszmokrzynski1492 German and Ukrainians nazi! Polish killed 28 000 soviets in 1921!
@simeondunev4890
@simeondunev4890 3 жыл бұрын
@@frantisekondrus52 You are crazy and or delusional
@frantisekondrus52
@frantisekondrus52 3 жыл бұрын
@@simeondunev4890 wow, WHO are you?
@wrona_zd
@wrona_zd 3 жыл бұрын
As a Pole I wanted to say simple but deep thank You Mark
@GESUNDHEITINSTITUTE2
@GESUNDHEITINSTITUTE2 3 жыл бұрын
Znasz prawde o II WS..!?
@andreichivu7653
@andreichivu7653 3 жыл бұрын
Best wishes to our polish friends from Romania !!❤💯👍🇵🇱🇷🇴
@reneegiese6315
@reneegiese6315 3 жыл бұрын
Stay strong, so it never happens again.
@netsurfers9357
@netsurfers9357 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that the Polish government is the way they are today!... God Bless from America!
@widehotep9257
@widehotep9257 3 жыл бұрын
The defenseless female victims of the Soviet hoards are still awaiting a Mark Felton episode telling their tragic tale. Millions of females aged 8 through 80 were sexually assaulted by our Communist "allies" as they pillaged Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, the Baltic states, Ukraine, and Rumania.
@maciejtedeque8096
@maciejtedeque8096 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work.
@tobongosse5247
@tobongosse5247 2 жыл бұрын
As a polish Australian I thank you for the video
@KsylaksRysuje
@KsylaksRysuje 3 жыл бұрын
Oh believe me it is not forgotten in Poland, we speak about this with bitterness among families and in the gobvernment. We lost a huge chunk of people who were highly educated to be foundation of society. So many people were killed, almost all families I know lost somebody there. Such a horrid event.
@pilsudski36
@pilsudski36 3 жыл бұрын
YES. Both the Gestapo and the NKVD sought to eliminate the educated classes, professionals, and business leaders of Poland, to impose their systems on Poland - but this is not taught in the West.
@kubajcz
@kubajcz 3 жыл бұрын
@@pilsudski36 the same in Czech republic. Nazis arrested and killed educated people or artists, philosophers, and more, and the same did communists.
@tjb_6203
@tjb_6203 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, there were no good guys in the war in the East, only varying degrees of evil.
@jankubiak324
@jankubiak324 3 жыл бұрын
@@tjb_6203 And it amazes me how the Hammer and sickle is not despised as the Swastika is in the West (Except Central Europe).
@niccolopaganini4268
@niccolopaganini4268 3 жыл бұрын
@@kubajcz This destroyed our countries, but only backfired for them. Imagine how different it would be for Germany if they made people in occupied countries willing to cooperate and if they didn't make everyone a human of lower class
@atillanandorfuri3343
@atillanandorfuri3343 3 жыл бұрын
Sure as hell not forgotten, here in Hungary we remember the atrocities the Soviets committed against our brothers
@Anarchizer
@Anarchizer 2 жыл бұрын
We also remember your uprising in 1956. In Poland hundreds donated blood, clothes and food for the victims of this soviet invasion. You are friends of Poland and our brotherhood will last. You are always welcome here.
@michaelmichael2596
@michaelmichael2596 2 жыл бұрын
Soviet made even more atrocities in Ukraine and now russia keeps tradition alive .
@Oldrebel
@Oldrebel 2 жыл бұрын
История помнит о ваших « подвигах» над пленными и мирным населением на территории ссср. Потому в плен венгров и не брали. Хотя это все в прошлом, нужно жить на земле в соответствии законами божьими.
@michaelmichael2596
@michaelmichael2596 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oldrebel да видели как московиты живут по законах Божих , Преднустровуе , две войны в Чечнe, две в Грузии , Украина " православыєн" куда дальше .
@DerNomade1871
@DerNomade1871 2 жыл бұрын
Also can't forgot all they did to German civilians, and German children as well the allies thought it was okay until the land disputes happened and the wall came up
@realbadmanrealbadman2862
@realbadmanrealbadman2862 Жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot from this channel. Great details.
@dzierzakm
@dzierzakm 2 ай бұрын
My grandfather kpt. Ryszard Chojnacki has been killed in this massacre… unknown massacre. Thank you for restoring the memory of those times.
@alcomatt
@alcomatt 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid (during early 80s), I remember visiting Cemeteries during All Hallows Eve. Traditionally it is the time of the year when Poles visit graves of their deceased loved ones. There was this wall there - every day someone would spray paint the word Katyn on it. The authorities would re-paint over it but we word would come back the next day. The area in front of the writing was always full of candles. This went on and on, year after year. Although it was officially suppressed knowledge and not a part of the school history curriculum since WW2, the people remembered. My great grandfather was murdered there (to be precise most likely in Ostaszkow)
@mrpalaces
@mrpalaces 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the site after the Soviet fall?
@juangarcia-kq8zp
@juangarcia-kq8zp 3 жыл бұрын
Feb 2021 USA Military Purge by Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
@garrisonnichols7372
@garrisonnichols7372 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your lost. I really don't see a difference between Nazism and Communism. I'm an American and I can tell you we Americans made a deal with the Devil during WW2. All we did was help defeat one dictatorship so another could take over. Not just in eastern Europe but also in China. We are probably going to have to fight against Communism in the near future.
@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 3 жыл бұрын
We need more of this. Unspoken historical evidence
@ralfweber4346
@ralfweber4346 3 жыл бұрын
@Erika Wehr hellstorm is simple bullshit made by a man without proper education in history
@ralfweber4346
@ralfweber4346 3 жыл бұрын
This warcrime is known since 1945. Nothing new
@germanyjones2700
@germanyjones2700 3 жыл бұрын
We need more of this Felton fella
@ralfweber4346
@ralfweber4346 3 жыл бұрын
@@miroslavzember6761 *Yeah,the soviest didn't spil any inocent blood* Please quote where I have said something like this
@ralfweber4346
@ralfweber4346 3 жыл бұрын
@REMEMBER THE NAME where did I ton down soviet warcrimes? The massacre is widly known...btw.....since 1945
@SitKid721
@SitKid721 2 жыл бұрын
yo fantastic content. I've been watching all your vides this really reminds me of sitting with my grate grandfather talking to him about his time in WW2
@darklingeraeld-ridge7946
@darklingeraeld-ridge7946 9 ай бұрын
Clearest presentation of this unspeakably deplorable event I know of. Am constantly surprised at how little coverage is given to the murder and suppression of intellectuals and artists by both Hitler and Stalin.
@auo2365
@auo2365 3 жыл бұрын
Katyn massacre is said to be the Polish people’s “rape of Nanjing” described to me by a history teacher. It’s rather saddening that still people try to deny such atrocities.
@kirbyculp3449
@kirbyculp3449 3 жыл бұрын
The post-communist Duma has officially admitted that Stalin was responsible. I already had a comment-tussle about this with commie-boos on another channel. Why the deniers persist is a puzzle indeed.
@gabel0027
@gabel0027 3 жыл бұрын
With the little difference that the Nanking Massacre was enormous...
@manumainio3451
@manumainio3451 3 жыл бұрын
Because the deniers are funded by the Russian government. They don't teach this stuff at schools in Russia. Just that they saved Europe from Hitler and "liberated" Eastern-Europe.
@jankubiak3218
@jankubiak3218 3 жыл бұрын
I think that a better equivalent of "Rape of Nanking" in Poland, would be the Wola Genocide, where the Germans exterminated 90,000 civilians during the Warsaw uprising in 1944. Or another one, the Volhynia Genocide, where Ukrainian Insuregents massacred 100,000 Poles in 1943-44.
@koekiejam18
@koekiejam18 3 жыл бұрын
@@manumainio3451 thats actually completely false... only an american would think russians are still communist. Putin himself has admitted that Stalin was a tiran and warcriminal
@anthonychappell9409
@anthonychappell9409 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I read about the Russian invasion of Poland in September 1939. A few weeks later; at school, we started learning about WW2 and the German invasion of Poland. I eagerly put up my hand so that I may tell my teacher what I had learned from my book about the Soviet invasion from the East. My teacher informed me that I was wrong, that my book was wrong, and that the invasion of Poland was by the Germans only. He then went on to humiliate me in front of the whole class when I insisted that my book was correct. I was eleven years old. I never forgot that
@mongoslade5248
@mongoslade5248 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. Dumbing down students since 1812.
@TheWilferch
@TheWilferch 3 жыл бұрын
Where was the school?....in USA?.....see my commennt above of the one-sided use of Hitler (only) as the 20th Century's only evil/murderist ruler...and never Stalin, our "Uncle Joe". One-sided indoctrination 'cause Stalin "was on our side".
@ohno2943
@ohno2943 3 жыл бұрын
Man that sucks, what a horrible teacher
@paullewis2413
@paullewis2413 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWilferch There was a famous U.S. general who stated that the allies fought the wrong enemy such was his hatred towards the Soviet Union but he was killed in a strange car accident that was evidently never fully investigated.
@patriotenfield3276
@patriotenfield3276 3 жыл бұрын
@@paullewis2413 Both the Axis and The Soviets were the opponents of US. problem is The US should have reached Berlin Before Soviets did.
@stevelauda5435
@stevelauda5435 2 ай бұрын
This video rocks!, thanks for the post!!
@euronymous86x
@euronymous86x 2 жыл бұрын
I am Italian, my grandmother was polish and lived in Suwalki. Late at night, soviet troops entered in the house, took her and her child (my uncle, now apolid in france), putted them on a train for siberia, that due to the policy of return of polish prisoners of war brought them to kenya (got photos there); they took also her husband, that finished in katyn. Long live the memory of such barbarism, still present in Russia due to the reasons, and the people, that you all know
@alexanderordinary2110
@alexanderordinary2110 3 жыл бұрын
" the first casualty in a war is the truth" someone once said. Wonder how many truths got buried in WW2....? We will never know.
@leemon908
@leemon908 3 жыл бұрын
Most dont know remote controlled bomber planes and remote controlled tanks were VERY popular in world War II. Also most dont know that JFKs older brother Joe Kennedy Jr. Died while flying behind and remote controlling two bomber planes over Germany in WWII.
@mariuskroll829
@mariuskroll829 3 жыл бұрын
@@leemon908 Mark made a video on those bombers not so long ago
@julianreyes7505
@julianreyes7505 3 жыл бұрын
We will
@dmitryhetman1509
@dmitryhetman1509 3 жыл бұрын
We have to stop lies about wwii first that come from Russia for example.
@janiceduke1205
@janiceduke1205 3 жыл бұрын
“In war, truth is the first casualty.” ― Aeschylus
@elparnasohyspano9988
@elparnasohyspano9988 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle disappeared in 1940 and it was long believed by our family that he perished at Katyn. It was only in 2008, 68 years later, that his name was published by the Polish government in a list of verified victims of the massacre. No family should ever have to wait so long for confirmation of the fate of a loved one. Thank you for making this film.
@thebarberstouch
@thebarberstouch Жыл бұрын
I wish this dude was my history teacher. I’m all hooked on this channel
@Pawel79A
@Pawel79A Жыл бұрын
Thank you mr. Doctor, this tragic Polish story has been very well told by you. 👍
@GotQuality
@GotQuality 3 жыл бұрын
The Polish film Katyn (2007) depicts this massacre in a horrifyingly accurate way. Recommend everyone watch the scenes of the shootings (at your own discretion), really shows how systematic and brutal it was
@christianpethukov8155
@christianpethukov8155 3 жыл бұрын
I will watch it this weekend. On Netflix perhaps?
@paulrimmer2853
@paulrimmer2853 3 жыл бұрын
For the NKVD it was another days work
@mbabist01
@mbabist01 3 жыл бұрын
That is, if you can find it. snoozetube has banned it. Too bad, it IS a good flick.
@leonrothier6638
@leonrothier6638 3 жыл бұрын
I did watch it. One of the most depressing films I’ve seen.
@juanleahy2202
@juanleahy2202 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I watched this about 11 years ago. The DVD of the film was given to us by a Polish family. It is a really shocking true story. It was the first time in years when after the film I had to have a double whisky. 'Least we forget'.
@p.b.5107
@p.b.5107 3 жыл бұрын
I attend a high school in Hungary, where it has a monument remembering this massacre. A ceremony involving honour guards takes place there annual. Respect to the Poles!
@cyberqreiber
@cyberqreiber 3 жыл бұрын
I am not trolling or starting a fight, but did they talk to you about crimes Hungarian troops committed in Serbia and Yugoslavia in 1914/15 and 1941-45? I am just interested in what is thought to student these days.
@jak00bspyr72
@jak00bspyr72 3 жыл бұрын
Once again it appears, that Hungarians are the only nation we can count on.
@p.b.5107
@p.b.5107 3 жыл бұрын
@@jak00bspyr72 Read about the Intermarium. A good idea of cooperation between us and some others. Better then EU. Though I would refersh my countries leadership for some reason, but the oppisition is no match for them either.
@jak00bspyr72
@jak00bspyr72 3 жыл бұрын
@@p.b.5107 I know about Intermarium. I wish it would come true.
@cyberqreiber
@cyberqreiber 3 жыл бұрын
@Carl Von Finland crime is when you go to Serbia in 1914 and start hanging and shooting women and children, not to mention straling all the food and stuff. This was docunented by Red Cross and some Swiss people on the ground like Archibald Reis.. Or, when you go to the city of Novi Sad in 1941/1942 and theow 2500 civilians under ice on river Danube. Or when Germans organize 3 concentration camps in Belgrade alone, for example. Is that enough to be qualified as crime for you?
@Evanmonster1
@Evanmonster1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. This area of WWII, does not get enough exposure. It seems like everyone knows what the nazis did. But not nearly enough people are educated on the brutality and the atrocities committed by the Soviets.
@nightowl9176
@nightowl9176 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mark for this episode. The quality of your films and skill to pack so much history to only several minutes is astounding. Please, don't stop making new films.
@frankcasey7423
@frankcasey7423 3 жыл бұрын
My grandpop was a polish officer that escaped from Poland in 1939 and wound up later in the R.A.F. Flying bombers with the 301 and 305 bomb group and received the “virtuti militari” from Gen. Sikorski in April of either 1941 or 1942, I can’t remember the exact year right now. But I learned of this tragedy from him.
@2x2is22
@2x2is22 3 жыл бұрын
Your grandpop was badass. The kind of guy they make movies about for sure
@frankcasey7423
@frankcasey7423 3 жыл бұрын
@@2x2is22 Thank you! Yes he was a great man and I miss him a lot! Unfortunately he passed away in 1982 in a car accident of all things after flying 75 bombing missions during the war and not being seriously wounded, go figure? But thank you again for the nice compliment!
@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY
@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY 3 жыл бұрын
I salute Grandpop.
@frankcasey7423
@frankcasey7423 3 жыл бұрын
@@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY Thank you for the compliment sir! That was very kind of you!
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 жыл бұрын
@@2x2is22 Unfortunately, they don't make movies of these kind of guys.
@alextaylor29
@alextaylor29 3 жыл бұрын
As an American I had no idea about this history, my sincerest condolences to all of Poland.
@VicNorth2023
@VicNorth2023 3 жыл бұрын
In the U.S..there were two official intelligence reports into the Katyn massacre that contradicted the official position that the massacre was committed by the Germans. In 1944, Roosevelt assigned his special emissary to the Balkans, Navy Lieutenant Commander George Earle, to produce a report on Katyn. Earle concluded the massacre was committed by the Soviet Union Having consulted with Elmer Davis, director of the United States Office of War Information, Roosevelt rejected the conclusion (officially), declared he was convinced of Nazi Germany's responsibility, and ordered that Earle's report be suppressed. When Earle requested permission to publish his findings, the President issued a written order to desist and Earle was reassigned and spent the rest of the war in American Samoa. It has been documented that Roosevelt did not believe that the Russians did it!
@danrook5757
@danrook5757 3 жыл бұрын
Another well educated American from the winning side
@garrisonnichols7372
@garrisonnichols7372 3 жыл бұрын
It's because America was Allied to Soviets during WW2 and wanted to portray themselves as the greatest generation. It's all BS. America is just as evil. We drop atomic bombs on civilians and let eastern Europe fall under Communist rule because we didn't care.
@guyprolly
@guyprolly 3 жыл бұрын
Let this, among other hidden histories allow you to look at the entire affair, its narrative, and more, until you can embrace Patton's words.
@nocturnalrecluse1216
@nocturnalrecluse1216 3 жыл бұрын
That's why Poland hates Russia
@user-wd2qk2dt7o
@user-wd2qk2dt7o 2 ай бұрын
Thank you and greetings from Poland - your material are honest
@kapuzinergruft
@kapuzinergruft Жыл бұрын
In German we have a general saying in all sorts of contexts trying to express there is still a straw of hope in despair "noch ist Polen nicht verloren". Translation: Poland is not yet lost.
@Blanka1100
@Blanka1100 Жыл бұрын
This is the fist sentence of the national anthem of Poland. First sentence of Ukrainian national anthem sounds almost the same...
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 3 жыл бұрын
As a non Polish guy when you bring this up with reasonably historical minded Polish people.... they are very proud that you took the time to remember some of their history. They get even prouder if you bring up the Warsaw uprising.
@semperfine4442
@semperfine4442 3 жыл бұрын
Which uprising? The Warsaw Ghetto or the betrayal in '44?
@robinloxley205
@robinloxley205 3 жыл бұрын
The Polish resistance captured a V-1 rocket, a V-2 rocket, and got them to the UK, incredible feats of skill, bravery and sacrifice, that helped to save UK and Europe from the Nazis. They were also the first to get the original Enigma machines to the UK which helped us break the German codes at Bletchley park. A Polish officer also invented the Mine Detector which saved and does save thousands of lives. Polish pilots also used close-in tactics against German bombers and fighters in the Battle of Britain, which changed the British tactics and re aligned our fighters guns to be more effective. Polish bomber crews, especially Halifax crews suffered enormous losses dropping supplies to the resistance in Poland, including to Warsaw and making long bombing and supply drops into Poland and the rest of Europe. I am British but history has many stories yet to be told.
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinloxley205 Thank you for sharing that. Very interesting and good to remember this history
@macze6180
@macze6180 3 жыл бұрын
There was a great episode about a Polish Panther tank in the Warsaw uprising '44. Also Mike covered the V rocket heist. I would love to see anything about Warsaw or any other Ghettos Uprisings. Though I dont think there is much of a video footage.
@jaypeterson313
@jaypeterson313 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinloxley205 many amazing things were done by the Polish during WW2, in fact I believe it was the Polish who were vital in cracking the German code for the Allies in WW2 and they were able to smuggle a fully functioning Enigma code machine from Poland into England which made it incredibly hard for the Germans (who were unaware) to do anything in secret.
@StratfordDanBurrell
@StratfordDanBurrell 2 жыл бұрын
Listened to a audiobook recently. It states Poland has been in a state of survival for its very existence many times. Poland however still exists, it’s enemies went to the dustbin of history. Such is the perseverance and determination of the Polish!
@somewierdoonline2402
@somewierdoonline2402 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't the polish government change and go communist during the Cold War?
@StratfordDanBurrell
@StratfordDanBurrell 2 жыл бұрын
@@somewierdoonline2402 I don’t think they had much choice in those decisions after world war 2.
@StratfordDanBurrell
@StratfordDanBurrell 2 жыл бұрын
@@somewierdoonline2402 - not so much as change to a Soviet government, as provided a one party state as being their territory was taken from the Germans. Not much choice there. Democracy restored 1989.
@timothybagrowski643
@timothybagrowski643 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago, a guy did my ancestry, His conclusion was my family came from an area so contested back and forth between Poland/Germany that I could call myself either German or Polish. I stuck to Polish.
@timothybagrowski643
@timothybagrowski643 2 жыл бұрын
@@somewierdoonline2402 if you call being Forced into submission, then yeah, they went Commie, and they were also the leaders in forcing Communism out of their Country long before the Soviet Union fell. In fact their Solidarity movement led to other neighboring Countries rejecting Soviet domination, I guess they didn't teach you that in World History huh?
@Greg_Abandoned
@Greg_Abandoned 7 ай бұрын
That convenient death of Sikorski is an incredible story worth covering it
@CBDPiggy
@CBDPiggy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work
@macahdahma7382
@macahdahma7382 2 жыл бұрын
The Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot did the exact same thing to the people of Cambodia.
@tomaszzalewski4541
@tomaszzalewski4541 2 жыл бұрын
This is what all communists do
@user-xr9tw6xh7o
@user-xr9tw6xh7o 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszzalewski4541 Also, they refuse to acknowledge their crimes. For example Hue City "68 during the Tet Offensive.
@johnhardin4358
@johnhardin4358 2 жыл бұрын
In German Poland the Wehrmact put up posters downtown ordering all the educated people to assemble there. They could be shot for failure to obey. The assemblies were then taken out of town and discretely shot. So SOP for your totalitarian invaders.
@Kalashnikov413
@Kalashnikov413 3 жыл бұрын
I would never forgot the Katyn massacre
@pk-sc8iz
@pk-sc8iz 3 жыл бұрын
*or all the other massacres of innocent ppl during WW2 from both the allies and the axis
@Kalashnikov413
@Kalashnikov413 3 жыл бұрын
@@pk-sc8iz not all, but some. Cuz there's too many
@Kalashnikov413
@Kalashnikov413 3 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Milligan oh yeah, i forgot about that
@ilyal5712
@ilyal5712 3 жыл бұрын
@Marcus Milligan Remember the Polish & Romanians. They suffered the Holodomor in the same years.
@glasbolyas9549
@glasbolyas9549 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilyal5712 yes the massacre of Fântână Albă the romanian Katyn
@trailridescj7528
@trailridescj7528 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Felton, There is a memorial statue for Katyń in Jersey City, NJ overlooking the Hudson River and Manhattan. Easy to visit 1 stop subway ride from the trade center. Thank you for your informative videos and keep up the great work.
@chomocharlie3997
@chomocharlie3997 Жыл бұрын
7:30, How many Poles regretted that they hadn't accepted Herr Hitler's terms for the Danzig Corridor?
@williamthebonquerer9181
@williamthebonquerer9181 Жыл бұрын
Germany was going to invade Poland anyway, Germany lied a lot XD
@carolus92
@carolus92 3 жыл бұрын
As a Pole, thank you for this video!
@shipwreckjs673
@shipwreckjs673 3 жыл бұрын
As a Brit of Polish heritage it broke my heart to hear how the UK was happy to point the blame at Germany and not hold the Soviet’s to account for the Katyn Massacre. Thank you for the video, any attention brought to the massacre is a good deed.
@15-Peter-20
@15-Peter-20 2 жыл бұрын
Such is war
@shipwreckjs673
@shipwreckjs673 2 жыл бұрын
@GreenWave Egotistical? Strong argument you got there. Want to back it up with anything or just talk a load of bollocks?
@heybabycometobutthead
@heybabycometobutthead 2 жыл бұрын
No such thing as a Brit of Polish heritage.
@richardcline1337
@richardcline1337 2 жыл бұрын
There were many instances during the war that showed Britain to be as two-faced, and cruel, as Hitler waas. Being an ally, they got away with it....until the Final Judgement when their lies and deceptions will be eternally exposed. Roosevelt also has a lot to answer for in his quest to get the US into Britain's war.
@heybabycometobutthead
@heybabycometobutthead 2 жыл бұрын
@@OzzieOzzieOzzieOyOyOy Only someone of English, Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish Ancestry can be British, the law of Nature trumps temporary man made laws written on paper.
@Celtopia
@Celtopia Ай бұрын
Thank you,....at last, a channel that actually does it's homework...... Subscribed.
@macanderson4322
@macanderson4322 2 ай бұрын
Insane I never heard of Katyn, now I’ll make sure I never forget
@hiesman6
@hiesman6 3 жыл бұрын
The allies turned a blind eye to this!
@magnetmannenbannanen
@magnetmannenbannanen 3 жыл бұрын
stalin killed just as many of his own officers, so how could they do anything?
@CBielski87
@CBielski87 3 жыл бұрын
so it turns out Poland was right to fear its former subjugators and neighbors, Germany and Russia. It seems to be common propaganda that Poland was an irrational player trying to unite other former slaves to said neighbors for defense. Why is the context and narrative around Polish foreign policy (pre-war) almost never painted as this "do or die" attitude to foreign policy because that was exactly what was on the table for them--ya know, because of how history actually went? queue the other Nazi sewn propaganda that Poles were so eager to ship out Jews--no other nation in the world had as much academic and institutional print in Hebrew as did Poland during this time, ya know, for actual historical context.
@M167A1
@M167A1 3 жыл бұрын
Once the war got going the Soviet Union needed to be seen as an ally so this, and the general nature of the socialist regime was not really spoken about until the end of the decade and the start of the cold war.
@M167A1
@M167A1 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnetmannenbannanen it's not a matter of what they could do, it's that the Communists were at least as bad as the nazis, yet got a pass at least until the start of the Cold War. this is reflected in the current positive Western attitude towards socialism, which is every single bit as bad as German national socialism.
@oliverludwig6148
@oliverludwig6148 3 жыл бұрын
As they did to the Soviet war crimes in the baltics, the genocide of Ingrian Finns, the fact that the Soviets participated in the attack on Poland - which they had given a guarantee to - and the attack on Finland.
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