Which Sandpaper is the Best? Ultimate Sandpaper Showdown (12 Brands - With Slow Mo 19k FPS Footage)

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Jonathan Katz-Moses

Jonathan Katz-Moses

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In this week’s woodworking product test/review we are testing definitively which sandpaper brand is the best. We tested how much wood 12 different brands removed and figured out not only which brand is the best but which one has the best value. I believe this is the first test of its kind and certainly proves our results to be consistent and reliable. I go over which types of sandpaper are used for woodworking, how they’re made, and which materials they use. We have some REALLY COOL slow motion footage of a Random Orbital Sander using different grits. This test was done in conjunction with Mike Taylor from Tytools and really taught me some things I thought were wrong. Some of you brands should be ashamed of yourselves for passing this garbage off as sandpaper! I really can’t wait to see what you create! Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
*Support What We Do at The Katz-Moses Store-* bit.ly/KMWstore20 *3M Cubitron ALL Products-* shop.kmtools.com/3mXtract *Taytools Sanding Test Results-* lddy.no/nm9q *Katz-Moses Sanding Test Results-*bit.ly/39fSQAT *Katz-Moses Watches and Horology-* bit.ly/2Ck61oF
@jesus9925
@jesus9925 4 жыл бұрын
yo sup bro
@TomsBackyardWorkshop
@TomsBackyardWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Wait garnets are soft? they have a hardness of 7.5 few gemstones are harder than garnets.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
@@TomsBackyardWorkshop super soft compared to AO and Ceramic. I'm not sure if garnet sandpaper is the same thing as the gem stones though. Might be worth googling
@kfiramar9967
@kfiramar9967 4 жыл бұрын
Can't order it cause for some reason it can't be shipped to Israel.... :(
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
@@kfiramar9967 Israel placed a moratorium on the US shipping because of Covid unfortunately.
@3MAbrasives
@3MAbrasives 4 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration, Jonathan. We love to see professionals like you putting 3M science to work and getting more done per disc!
@Eng586
@Eng586 3 жыл бұрын
Favorite brand for sandpaper and masks!
@TheTalottaMike
@TheTalottaMike 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I have been unintentionally marketing for you guys for the last 6 months... everyone I know uses the 3m cubitrons now. Is it too late to ask for a job? Ha!
@Skylinegtrbnr34
@Skylinegtrbnr34 3 жыл бұрын
Does 3m sell this awsome sandpaper in europe
@hazembata
@hazembata 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a 6in variety pack.
@bback4078
@bback4078 3 жыл бұрын
I love your sandpaper! It's been harder for me to source locally since the pandemic started, but it's my favorite!
@mikeswoodencreations5712
@mikeswoodencreations5712 4 жыл бұрын
I looked at the title, thought to myself “do I really need to watch this” as I was thinking what could I possibly learn about sandpaper but hey I’m I big fan of the channel so i got stuck in, anyway really glad I did, thanks for putting yourself through 6 hours of sanding for us! That’s dedication, Thanks Jonathon
@djoravec3455
@djoravec3455 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t say all go through 6 hours of sanding too... it really is no fun
@joeborowy5794
@joeborowy5794 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine kzfaq.infoUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.
@nickanderson8305
@nickanderson8305 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to product testing project farm is by far the #1 source. Un-sponsored content and breaks down everything on many different levels.
@dannydaze2959
@dannydaze2959 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother can’t thank you enough for all the time and effort you put into these videos, you really help me and others a ton. Also, I hear a lot of other KZfaqrs referencing your videos so hats off to you man. Keep the goods comin🤙🏼
@biglav6048
@biglav6048 4 жыл бұрын
The most underdog and under-appreciated topic in the wood working world! Killer video man, much needed! I'm either getting old and boring or we all share the same love for the craft! (Sandpaper videos are the most exciting!)
@langkhach237
@langkhach237 2 жыл бұрын
*Works really **MyBest.Tools** well, and fits hand perfectly.*
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
**BEFORE YOU COMMENT I WISH BRAND X WAS INCLUDED I SUGGEST CHECKING OUT THE FULL TEST HERE* lddy.no/nm9q FESTOOL, BOSCH, DEWALT, FREUD/DIABLO,GATOR, KINGSPORE, MIRKA, NORTON, SHOPSMITH, SIA, were included and got beaten in varying degrees by 3M. The full test is an informative and incredible 10 minute read. Cheers
@Niels_Dn
@Niels_Dn 4 жыл бұрын
Love the cost per gram removed comparison! I was always in doubt about what defines sandpaper quality and here we have it. Thanks!
@bknighton92
@bknighton92 4 жыл бұрын
There's no offense meant here, I absolutely love the fact you seem to be a numbers and data nerd. It adds so much credibility to what you do when you're able to put some science behind the woodworking. Keep it up!
@johnmay3266
@johnmay3266 4 жыл бұрын
I started using Mirka sanding discs a few years ago after getting very frustrated with the junk on the market. I didn't do any of the fancy tests like you guys did but I could figure out what was junk pretty fast. The Chairman of my Budget Committee didn't understand at first but she came around when I stopped ordering sandpaper every month. I buy 50 disc boxes and they last me several years. I run from 60 grit to 600 grit for my normal bowl and vase turnings and even have smaller boxes of 800 to 2000. Had I been able to see a video like yours sooner I would have saved much more. So glad my gut was proved out by your empirical results. Keep fighting the fight and saving us money. BTW it's the same for Bit and Bits. Slowly getting rid of junk.
@austinwtoler
@austinwtoler 4 жыл бұрын
"The Chairman of my Budget Committee" 😂 I know her well!
@DylanPM
@DylanPM 4 жыл бұрын
Not only was this a far more interesting demonstration on sandpaper than I expected I was thrilled to learn that my other great hobby/money pit of horology (guys..) will now be covered by you!! Can’t wait to see more of your Seikos!
@TimSchoffelman
@TimSchoffelman 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a HUGE help. Thank you for posting it and breaking down the different manufacturers effectiveness. I have been using the Freud mesh ones now for the past year and they do a decent job. As soon as I'm through those, I'm definitely switching.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, Jonathan!!! That's science! 😃 Testing, retesting for confirmation and so on! I love it! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@dignan17
@dignan17 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this service you've done for your viewers! I ordered the 3M paper from Taylor after seeing your video last night, and I already received a shipping notification this morning. That's so fast! The only thing I would have liked to see you do is to throw in a SUPER cheap paper for comparison. You know there's folks out there picking their discs up at Harbor Freight. **looks around**
@lukafilm
@lukafilm 4 жыл бұрын
The slowmo series has been extremely interesting so far! Great work guys!!
@KiranBhatWoodworking
@KiranBhatWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you!
@pedalman4595
@pedalman4595 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Welder fabricator. I have been using 3M Cubitron for ever. GREAT PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that they offer it for wood, I will use nothing else. Thank you for all your content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@3MAbrasives
@3MAbrasives 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! It's great to hear how much you love our Cubitron products.
@Yawles
@Yawles 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your science. The testing you showed is repeatable, quantified and above all undoubtedly fair! Very valuable information. Thank you, and I'm looking forward to wiping man glitter (saw dust) on my leftie apron!
@-ZIO
@-ZIO 4 жыл бұрын
This is the MOST valuable youtube video I have seen in 2020. Katz-Moses, well done :)
@mashrealty
@mashrealty 4 жыл бұрын
Bought some of the 3M discs after watching this. Just got to use them on a project and you are 100% correct on these. They are WAY better than any others I have used before. Thanks for the video!
@shaesmith8962
@shaesmith8962 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the research you put into this. I just received my order of 3M cubitron and they are way better than anything I’ve used before. Also just got my tool apron in. Love the quality! Keep up the good work.
@PeteSudlow
@PeteSudlow 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information & I'm sold on the cubitron! Definitely picking that up!
@mindyhall4638
@mindyhall4638 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan - always learn so much from your videos! Thank you for all you do!
@pinkgogoboots
@pinkgogoboots 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I needed this information!! So much work u guys put into this video. Thank u so so much🙏🏼.
@ryderscustomcreations3665
@ryderscustomcreations3665 4 жыл бұрын
Yay I’m the first to see it!! I’ve been waiting all week for this one! More Sloooooooow mo! And you KNOW I’ll be WATCHing your new channel!
@thomasalison6188
@thomasalison6188 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this is great information! Looks like Tay Tools is getting more of my money! Looking forward to receiving my apron tomorrow!! 😁
@MichaelHudgins0
@MichaelHudgins0 4 жыл бұрын
I got my sample pack of the 3M the other day and got to try it on some hard maple today and I have to say I was amazed at how fast sanding went. Sanding took less than half the time I expected and disk still looks almost new. Awesome find and worth the extra for me.
@mclkev
@mclkev 4 жыл бұрын
Amazingly well put together video and great info, so worth watching
@mattstalford9769
@mattstalford9769 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm a data analysis geek, so I found the data fascinating. Also got my sample of the 3M Cubitron ordered.
@CoffeyCustomBuilds
@CoffeyCustomBuilds 4 жыл бұрын
Really great info in this, man!
@sweatyworf5267
@sweatyworf5267 4 жыл бұрын
Been using these now for about a week straight, sanding an old poly sealed slab and wow these are the best sandpaper’s I’ve ever used!
@donnorton7304
@donnorton7304 4 жыл бұрын
I think I learned more about sanding in this video than ever before .If only it wasn't needed but of course some finishing /smoothing of a surface can't be avoided.
@MichaelAlm
@MichaelAlm 4 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating! Thanks JKM!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud!
@KeyWoodworks
@KeyWoodworks 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently switched from Bosch paper to Mirka paper and this totally explains why I don't hate sanding anymore. Great video man!
@tylerkrug7719
@tylerkrug7719 4 жыл бұрын
I would watch any channel you make, your a cool dude, and the way you present your topics is awesome!
@cady.moriarty
@cady.moriarty 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, J! Super informative as always! I do feel like I'm an outcast now though because sanding is just about the most relaxing part of woodworking for me so far... P.S. I cannot believe you didn't tell us about your watch collection sooner! I have been oogling at Vortic watches since I started my new job, definitely a love I never knew I had. Can't wait for your first upload!
@Baziell
@Baziell 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the awesome info! Just ordered your apron, only just started woodworking so might aswell get the best apron arounď while supporting the channel.
@mattpeterson7074
@mattpeterson7074 4 жыл бұрын
This is excellent information. I've known for years the big box store brands were junk. Compared them with some sandpaper I picked up from a company called Heleta. I got turned onto their products years back through Pirate4x4 as having quality angle grinder wheels. Their sandpaper was MUCH better than the box store brands. Didn't rip as easy, didn't wear out as fast and was cheaper. Win, win, and win. That said, that was just my simple eyeball test. This information is fantastic! Well done to you Jonathan and to Mike for that hard work in that test. If I didn't have a stockpile of 50 sheets of all my sandpaper already I pick up some of that 3M stuff! Maybe in 3 years after I burn through all of my stock.
@dagragg
@dagragg 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Or should I say outsanding video! lol Learned a lot from this video. I am certainly going to be reviewing my sand paper choices.
@terrmaso
@terrmaso 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info👍 I was actually thinking about this dilema as my sand paper supply was dwindling. Always helps to know where to get the most bang for your buck.
@mykolashatkovskyi8817
@mykolashatkovskyi8817 3 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, you're awesome! You succeeded to make such an interesting video out of such a boring topic as sanding! Thank you!
@maxa3221
@maxa3221 3 ай бұрын
incredible video, havent seen much like this. great work
@bback4078
@bback4078 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video!! 3M's purple sandpaper has been my favorite for a long time for my palm sander, and I've really liked the 3M Cubitron paper I've had for that sander. I'll make sure to buy some for my orbital. I loved the cost comparison-very helpful!
@michaelduval159
@michaelduval159 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video I was about to restock my sand paper rack this week
@tonydelvecchio1431
@tonydelvecchio1431 4 жыл бұрын
Great job at creating new content that adds to the information base
@brandonhayes1211
@brandonhayes1211 4 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍 I enjoyed all the information thanks for doing all the work
@maxkaiser9316
@maxkaiser9316 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic I've been using diablo for awhile now been happy with it but when it runs out I'll definitely step up to the cubitron thx for all the time and effort that you have been putting in great job 👍
@cody7855
@cody7855 4 жыл бұрын
If you asked me if I'd watch a ~15 minute video on sandpaper I'd give it a hard pass. But here I am, and I was interested. Thanks for the great videos. Lots of good information. Now to buy all the 3m sandpaper and finally build my sand paper station
@patbrouillard3227
@patbrouillard3227 4 жыл бұрын
Really informational video thanks for taking the time.
@snooopypooopy1965
@snooopypooopy1965 4 жыл бұрын
Super excited about the watch channel! I love watches also :D Already subscribed!!
@KOutOfMyYard
@KOutOfMyYard 4 жыл бұрын
So glad that I watched this,, man oh man always dropping knowledge. Thank you so much
@kennysoutherland9801
@kennysoutherland9801 4 жыл бұрын
The link to TayTools testing doc is not working for me either the one posted in the comments, or the one posted on the Katz Moses results spreadsheet.
@adrianabshire
@adrianabshire 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my new TayTools 4” rule and it is awesome! great build quality! Will be ordering the sample pack of 3M paper asap!
@hardnox6655
@hardnox6655 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! That was great information.
@TWworks
@TWworks Жыл бұрын
Loved this. I was wondering if sandpaper was just sandpaper or if some are better than others. Thank you very much!
@jesus9925
@jesus9925 4 жыл бұрын
i love this channel man its so helpful
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@timlawrence3906
@timlawrence3906 7 ай бұрын
Wow! This is great information, especially for a beginner like me. I now know that when I use up my Festool and Diablo discs, I'll be getting the 3M. Way to go with providing such value 3M!
@adamgurian767
@adamgurian767 3 жыл бұрын
Received my first commission project of 2.5" Ash Floating Shelves. I decided to re-watch your segment on sandpaper and ordered an assortment pack of the 3M Cubitron.......WOW!!! What a difference, the speed, the longevity and effectiveness. I will have to work my way through my existing inventory of Gator and other, but will be replacing with the Cubitron. Really appreciate your efforts on making this research public!
@MariElle3
@MariElle3 3 жыл бұрын
I like this guy's videos. Really helpful and informative.
@johnmonsey2849
@johnmonsey2849 4 жыл бұрын
YES! I’ve been telling everyone the 3m “purple paper” is by far the best. I always called it 3m Pro Grade. Had to look at a 15 pack of 120 grit I had laying in the shop to see that it had the “cubitron” logo. I feel SO vindicated now lol
@3MAbrasives
@3MAbrasives 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John - Thanks for your kind words! It's great to hear how much you love our Cubitron products.
@lint2023
@lint2023 4 жыл бұрын
@@3MAbrasives Former 3M'er here. My pension starts in 33 days. Happy camper!!!!!!
@K0NVICTx
@K0NVICTx 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! I'll have to grab some cubitron disks! I have the 3M sheets but didn't know they made disks. I recommend the Router Mats from Kencraft for sanding. Those mats hold your workpiece well and I finish on them as well. I originally saw Dave Piccuto use them on Makesomething channel and one of the hidden gems of my shop
@AntonyConboyUX
@AntonyConboyUX 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Great job
@sarayka7809
@sarayka7809 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice !
@larrycurran7005
@larrycurran7005 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I introduced Norton ceramic sandpaper to the commercial hardware I was working at several years ago and had received a demo pack of various types to try out prior to the recommendation. I was very impressed with the results and have used it ever since with excellent results. I am going to purchase the new 3M product to try out and see how much difference there is between the two products. Thanks for the informative video.
@Metalbass10000
@Metalbass10000 3 жыл бұрын
THAT was a really useful video! 👍🏼
@sizif717
@sizif717 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Thanks! I've figured out a long time ago that Mirka sandpapers are far better that Dewolt, Bosh and Dewolt and buy only them, but now i will give this 3M a try!
@ChristianTalbotComedian
@ChristianTalbotComedian 4 жыл бұрын
This was very useful!
@justcruisin109
@justcruisin109 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting so thank you. Looking at the results tells a story I think. Most of these companies would not make their own products so most would be rebadged. There seems to be 3M out the front, a second group and a third poorly performing group. I was interested because I have Mirka and Festool disks which both seem to be in the middle group. There would be some variability due to density of the abrasive, glue used and the backing material and so on but the results are fairly consistent. Cheers
@desertfoxsa
@desertfoxsa 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for weeks. thanks Jonathan
@Pauken11
@Pauken11 4 жыл бұрын
Your results match my preference in sandpaper. I have been using Mirka Bulldog Gold for years with fantastic results. It produces the most consistent scratch pattern per grit than any other paper I have used. Mirka Rocks!! It produces the best surface I have seen from any sandpaper, and it cuts fast with less heat.
@daviddailey4959
@daviddailey4959 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using Mirka for several years. Going to check out the 3m.
@nobody3692
@nobody3692 4 жыл бұрын
Love to see this test on pine.. Ive had to sand T&G for 10hrs a day for a couple weeks at a time for big houses and do lots of 2"live edge slab projects. Tryed the 3x more expensive ceramic disks and belts, but they dont seem to be much better for the extra cost.. spraying with a dry lube helps a little tho. ill be tryin the 3m cubitron , good vid thanx.
@johnleonard5857
@johnleonard5857 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Naturally I just stocked my sand paper so it will be a couple of months before I need more. I did however get that sample set from Tay Tools, to good of a deal to pass up.
@jeroenverbeeck7925
@jeroenverbeeck7925 4 жыл бұрын
Great video,I love this scientific approach
@dandugan824
@dandugan824 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan! Always learning stuff here!
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@ocpbmuse
@ocpbmuse 4 жыл бұрын
Literally search for a video like this last week and couldn’t find anything useful. Thanks JKM!
@anthonyr.3799
@anthonyr.3799 2 жыл бұрын
Very valuable information
@ukaszJasinski
@ukaszJasinski 4 жыл бұрын
i'm using cubitron for some time and I'm amazed how fast it works and how long lasts. Also used it on some finish removal and had lower tendecies to get cloged. Didn't know it's also available in sheets though
@PawPawsClan
@PawPawsClan 4 жыл бұрын
Got my sample pack last week and used it for the first time over the weekend. All I can say is MY-Oh-MY, where has this Cubiton II been all my life. I was thoroughly impressed. I mistakenly purchased the 240-420 grits, but, I gotta say it was super. Having trouble finding it in lower grits, and less than a 50pk.
@alanr745
@alanr745 4 жыл бұрын
Informative, as always. Jonathan, I think the funniest thing was your bluntness about Bosch, Makita, and DeWalt. If I had to guess, they probably all source their sandpaper from the same low-cost factory somewhere in eastern Asia. That being said, 3M probably does too, but they invest in their QC and QA because abrasives were their original bread and butter (iirc - I could be wrong). Thank you for the info. Once I run out off my Diablo/Freud sandpaper, I'll be paying Tay Tools a visit.
@AvilerED
@AvilerED 4 жыл бұрын
Just now getting around to watching this. Thanks for the breakdown to both you and Mike. If you are up for it, something I see Stumpy Nubs recommending are DuraGRIT carbide sanding and shaping tools. Would you (or Mike) be willing to do a data dump on that?
@treowayne
@treowayne 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I ordered some 80 and 120 paper from Taylor Toolworks and was very pleased with how well the 3M paper performed. What a bummer that you can't get these sanding discs on stores.
@chm1701
@chm1701 4 жыл бұрын
Holy hell, I never would have thought that the main brands would have been THAT bad. Plus, I certainly don’t envy 6 straight hours of sanding, but the results are quite shocking. Nice job guys 👍 I got my email for the apron and it was despatched on Thursday. I live in the UK, so it’ll take a while to get here, but I’m really looking forward to it. I can’t wait. Well I can, because I have no choice. Lol.
@BurginAssociates
@BurginAssociates 4 жыл бұрын
They are tool brands, not primary manufacturers of abrasives like 3M, Norton and Mirka. They buy cheaper material, package it and mark it up.
@chm1701
@chm1701 4 жыл бұрын
Cliff Burgin. Erm. Okay. Thanks for that.
@GregsGarage
@GregsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
This confirms my experience... I've always been a mirka and Norton guy. I haven't tried the 3m ceramics, but it looks like I should give them a look.
@johnthompson3462
@johnthompson3462 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.We as woodworkers need these as you cannot trust the big companies sales pitch.Well done
@helensnz
@helensnz 4 жыл бұрын
Only reason I watched this video about sanding! was because JK-M produced it! And not disappointed either, thank you and cant wait for my apron to arrive Down Under.
@dennisbradystudios
@dennisbradystudios 4 жыл бұрын
Great info thank you. What frustrates me more than stock removal vs cost is the inability of the hook and loop disk staying in place on most sanders. I use both DeWalt and Bosh and it seems that I’m only getting a small fraction of useful time out of the pad nowadays compared to ones that came on sanders only a few years back. I replaced a pad on one of my DeWalts and kept track (as closely as I could) of how long the new hooks lasted and was shocked to find I got less than 10 hours. And that’s with an OEM pad costing around a third the cost of a whole new sander. Never thought I’d say this but maybe a Mirca or Festool is in my future.
@MrMNRichardWright
@MrMNRichardWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work.
@wb_finewoodworking
@wb_finewoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting test. It’s worth trying some out so I’ll order one of the sample packs. I’m interested on how well the hole pattern works on my Festool sander. Speaking on sanders I’m thinking of adding ROS to my collection of tools. While my Festool does a great job and has both Rotex and ROS modes it’s heavy and impossible to sand with with just one hand. I’ve noticed that you’re using a Makita in this and other videos. Would you recommend one to someone like me. Do they have one that is easy to sand with using only one hand? Thanks for your help. BTW - I’m looking forward to getting my apron.
@garagemonkeysan
@garagemonkeysan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Mahalo for sharing! : )
@peterkramer3814
@peterkramer3814 4 жыл бұрын
The one sanding paper I really miss is the new Festool Granat Net. I really would love to see that in comparison to the 3m
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
It was compared and didn't do as well. Read the main test
@vernsteinbrecker3759
@vernsteinbrecker3759 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
@jzvetter
@jzvetter 4 жыл бұрын
this is awesome!
@markantony3875
@markantony3875 3 жыл бұрын
Just switched to the 3M Cubitron sandpaper. All I can say is wow! The best stuff I have come across. Not only great for woodworking, but metal working too. Metal simply destroys cheaper sandpaper...dull in a few seconds. The Cubitron eats through plain carbon steel like a hot knife through butter. Even with hardened tool steel, no problem. I recently refinished an old, beat to hell wood chisel with the Cubitron. I made my own PSA disks for a bench disk sander, started with 60 Grit to clean it up, then worked up to the 400 grit. I then finished the edge with waterstones. The chisel will take the hair right off your arm now. The amazing thing is the Cubitron disks I made still has a lot of life left in them...and this stuff is just "sandpaper" I picked up at the HD. Crazy!
@trbarnett
@trbarnett 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and I know that SUCKED....so thank you! Just replenished my supply from Taytools and they shipped the same day. Been using Diablo from HD for some time and while it does the job, it just doesn’t last. Looking forward to giving the 3M a go. As always, great video and review.
@LivingTheLifeRetired
@LivingTheLifeRetired 2 ай бұрын
Great video.
@StopGravity
@StopGravity 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that comparison. I have been using Mirka for a while and they are definitely better than the more name brand papers. Gonna search out the 3M next.
@HCarpenter
@HCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын
love this channel
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend
@RonMarshallrone
@RonMarshallrone 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using sandnet the last month. They last a long time and pretty good. Nice video!
@sprayfe
@sprayfe 4 жыл бұрын
Rone Marshall same experience
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