Ken Shamrock - How Montreal Screwjob Went Down w/ Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels & Vince McMahon

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Ken Shamrock recalls what happened in Montreal with Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon. Stream New Shoot Interviews 📺 TitleMatchNetwork.com
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Former WWF/WWE/UFC legends Ken Shamrock & Dan Severn are here in their very first shoot interview together.
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"World's Most Dangerous Man" Ken Shamrock explains how Bret Hart wanted to drop to originally drop the title to him instead of Shawn Michaels. Also, how Bret asked Shamrock to watch his back after the match at WWF Survivor Series in 1997.
Ken describes everything that went on in Montreal and the immediate aftermath. Find out how the dressing room looked with the Hart Foundation involved (British Bulldog, Owen Hart and Jim Neidhart).
Also hear how Vince McMahon was acting right after getting spat on and later punched by Bret Hart.
This is really interesting information that had not been revealed before about the infamous Montreal Screwjob.
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@TitleMatchWrestling Жыл бұрын

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@christianreynolds9252 Жыл бұрын

Never ever get tired of hearing stories about the Montreal screw job

@xamurai00 Жыл бұрын

I do. It happened 30 years ago and its time to move on.

@OrionOodama Жыл бұрын

Moreso that this year (2022) marks its 25th anniversary. Well, we can't hold grudges forever. But never forget its lessons while preserving (or enhancing) the truth.

@johnrawlings2161 Жыл бұрын

It was a work you dumb fans lmao

@7PitBullz Жыл бұрын

Dan "The Beast" Severn. The only guy who ever walked down the WWE ramp with his UFC and NWA titles

@DomDeVille Жыл бұрын

Iconic mustache. He made D-Lo Brown better, after he had to wear the chest protector.

@wwedxecw Жыл бұрын

Love that Ken was riding for Bret👏🏽

@mugabi9502 Жыл бұрын

That is real loyalty.

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

He was riding for DX too, playing both sides. In the Unauthorized History of D-Generation X book, HHH said Shamrock walks up to them and says, "I don't know what the heck just happened, but you two are cool with me."

@fmthebaron Жыл бұрын

@@Speedyreedy1218 that's true Ken was friends with both sides.

@rossboss7538 6 ай бұрын

So, loyalty is all great and stuff but if you listen to this interview carefully, you can get that Ken Shamrock paid a price for his loyalty to Bret. Moreover, Shamrock even said that Bret had talked to him about doing an angle with him where they were going to put the strap on Ken, so you need to listen to this interview carefully because Shamrock paid a HEAVY price for siding with Bret Hart. Why he had to get work at TNA cos Vince wasn't interested in using Shamrock again. Not sure if Ken is in HOF?

@OrionOodama Жыл бұрын

It goes to prove Bret is indeed the locker room guy, helping and guiding the newbies. And most (if not all) of these up-and-coming talents, they thanked Bret one way or another (eg., StoneCold, The Rock, Ken Shamrock). While at the same time, Bret kept the bullies called The Kliq at bay.

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

The Kliq weren't bullies. The locker room made them the bad guy.

@OrionOodama Жыл бұрын

@@Speedyreedy1218 Well, because they're really the bad guys. Actions and their characters at the time provided the visual aid and proof.

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

@@OrionOodama Hahaha, no they aren't. The popular thing to do amongst ex WWE employees, the IWC, and dirtsheets are to vilify The Kliq.

@OrionOodama Жыл бұрын

@@Speedyreedy1218 Laugh as you please. Or that's your way as excuse to justify their actions on their behalf (whether they care or not). Because simply put, you condone them. Bullies can love fellow bullies, after all.

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

@@OrionOodama 😃😃😃😃😃

@jimsmith8993 Жыл бұрын

I would have loved to see Shamrock have a run as champion!!

@GBTwelveSixteen Жыл бұрын

Him just having a match with Bret where he gets to reverse a Sharpshooter or Sharpshooter attempt into an Ankle Lock would've been awesome.

@Tarantulisimo Жыл бұрын

As Shamrock said, at one point there were serious discussions to have Bret drop the belt to him instead of Shawn, & this is cooraborated by Cornette's version -- But Vince didn't want to set a precedent with the boys where somebody could pick & choose who they wanted to lose the belt to

@efan2012 Жыл бұрын

IMO that's what they should have done. Put Shamrock in the match as a triple threat and have him make Shawn tap out and win the title. Bret would lose it with grace but not get beat in front of everyone. He would either hand the title over respectfully to Ken that night or show up the next night and do a farewell then. Then Ken could hold it a month or two and drop it to Shawn so he can face Austin at Mania. Let Ken have some matches with different folks in between and see if he could handle the load then he coulda been a heel challenge to Austin in 1998 or 1999. There was honestly no reason why he wasn't near the main event those 2 years the dude was awesome.

@Thor-Orion Жыл бұрын

@@efan2012 and he was OVER. The fans ALL respected him and dude could work. He was a vet from Japan and the boys all got along with him. Really weird how they put a ceiling on him.

@Tarantulisimo Жыл бұрын

@@efan2012 Looking back, I think Bret was so over & beloved in Canada that even if he lost cleanly to Michaels in Montreal, there woulda been no shame or negativity to it -- Bret woulda looked like even more of a hero. Of course we all know that Bret had his personal reasons for not wanting to job to Shawn, but in the long run he woulda looked like that bigger better man

@MrFatsluttytone Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ken Shamrock and Dan "The Beast" Severn for the amazing action in both the octagon and the sqared circle.

@Sayed36870 Жыл бұрын

I love how he says “where’s the trust” All the people who say Vince did the right thing, ask yourself if you were a wrestler at that time. How would u feel

@bartalgozzini7262 Жыл бұрын

Just accept it. My boss does things I don’t agree with but that’s how it goes. It’s a shifty feeling but we need realize that wwe is Vince he controls everything.

@Sayed36870 Жыл бұрын

@@bartalgozzini7262 ask yourself what if you were working fir 15 yrs at a place where u sacrificed your family like to support the company. Then your work tells you we md it want you anymore, then on your last day humiliated you I front of the world, would be hurt

@bartalgozzini7262 Жыл бұрын

@@Sayed36870 It was def. Not right what happened him. It could have handled better by everyone involved. But at the end of the day it’s entertainment. Vince put the belt on him and he can take it away. Make no mistake the actual owner of that belt is Vince. Brett didn’t actually win anything.

@christophermcguire6440 Жыл бұрын

Vince purchased Stampede Wrestling from Stu Hart. Bret cMe with the negotiations and contract signing. He employed Bret and made him who he was, made him wealthy. Vince wanted Bret to drop the belt, Bret refused. I love Bret but it's all about business man. If the boss tells you to drop the belt here or there, you drop the belt here or there.

@bartalgozzini7262 Жыл бұрын

@@christophermcguire6440 yep. Bret acts like he went 12 rounds with Tyson to get that title.

@msoi215 Жыл бұрын

Ken Shamrock had to come to the realization that if they (mainly Vince McMahon) can do what they did when it came to Bret and Owen Hart, then they can do that to absolutely anyone in that promotion.

@65if2007 Жыл бұрын

It was a work.

@ChristopherJohn4389 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, thank you for saying exactly what he said

@peacethroughstrength172 Жыл бұрын

When you are boss of your comoany, you can do what ya want. When the fool got greedy and went public and F became E, that was his downfall. Got a B.O.D. to answer to now lol

@dnice2000 Жыл бұрын

@@65if2007 def not a work

@65if2007 Жыл бұрын

@@dnice2000 It was.

@michaelmercury1297 Жыл бұрын

Too bad Ken Shamrock and Kurt Angle never got to work together .

@YeahThatGuy619 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's *TOO* bad

@johntodd2343 Жыл бұрын

Or Dean Malenko

@seamuscoffey96 Жыл бұрын

Ken shamrock was legit but kurt angle is 1 of the GOATS n is 10 levels above shamrock

@donaldpump3072 Жыл бұрын

Thas toe bud

@bullyvonwilson4545 Жыл бұрын

Ken,Kurt, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko …. NOW that would have been a faction or a great tag team rivalry no matter how you pair them up 💯

@ozujordan6001 Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn is literally Omni man

@2hipsis13 Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn looks the exact same man from 25 years ago.

@joemckim1183 Жыл бұрын

@@2hipsis13 He really does, he's not even greying yet.

@jamesgallagher1992 Жыл бұрын

@@joemckim1183 not sure if this a recent video...dan looks quite a bit older on his recent podcasts with don frye👍

@2hipsis13 Жыл бұрын

@@joemckim1183 I want whatever he's doing. Lol

@joemckim1183 Жыл бұрын

@@2hipsis13 His secret of not agingy is he probably eats pork rinds for breakfaayst every day.

@fishhookism Жыл бұрын

All of these wrestlers that said they would have done the job, have no idea how they would have reacted until it happened to them.

@Tarantulisimo Жыл бұрын

IMO opinion (with 25 years hindsight), I think that if Bret had just dropped the belt clean to Shawn in Montreal, he would've ended up coming off like even more of a hero & icon to the Canadian faithful -- but his pride & ego where telling him otherwise because of all the BS going on between him & HBK. Bret was totally over in Canada as we all know, so there woulda been no shame in losing

@mikeg2491 Жыл бұрын

@@Tarantulisimo if he had dropped the belt fans would have been cheering and chanting please don’t go after the cameras stopped rolling

@realbeefcastle Жыл бұрын

Davey Boy and British Bulldog in the same spot at once? That's crazy!!!

@XxowendanxX Жыл бұрын

How come they never wrestled each other?

@xxbyron13xx Жыл бұрын

Lol Ken being quite... knowing he can take everyone in that locker room. Crazyyy

@Sum_Jigh Жыл бұрын

Watching Dan “ The Beast” Severn staring at Shamrock with that sinister eye penetrating look spoke volumes. It felt unnerving.

@sainters7 Жыл бұрын

Ken Shamrock is still in incredible shape...58 and look at those guns

@bdach88 Жыл бұрын

Not natural tho

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

@@bdach88 Have you seen his medical report?

@blueringoffire Жыл бұрын

@@bdach88 rather be that then a gaYmer living on Ramen squeezing his bitchtits wondering what a vagina Really looks and feels like while he plans his social media influencer career bcus he is scared of slaving a job for 40+ years tho💪

@bdach88 Жыл бұрын

@@Speedyreedy1218 dont have to. It's not hard to tell

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

@@bdach88 Yes you do.

@skuastone9698 Жыл бұрын

Two legends/pioneers here.

@carlodurant87 Жыл бұрын

im glad that bret and shawn were able to put that behind them. two of the greatest wrestlers of all time

@Guitarist888 Жыл бұрын

3:17 Dan looking at ☘️ like he wanna say “Quite sandbagging!”.Especially the Owen conspiracy 3:29. He’s giving that look that snoop gave to Tupac when he was rambling on! 😂

@carlodurant87 Жыл бұрын

ken shamrock and dan severn. two of the greatest mma fighters ever

@rjbasilio2002 Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn is not aging! Wow!

@alvinperez3010 Жыл бұрын

i wish you had more videos of these two...

@MP-zb9vm Жыл бұрын

Was this filmed in 2022? He still looks jacked. The early UFC fight vs. Gracie was terrific.

@TitleMatchWrestling Жыл бұрын

Little short of 1 year ago this month! He's still an absolute beast

@aceassn716 Жыл бұрын

Dan The Beast Severn

@MrWoodMan23 Жыл бұрын

What a crazy atmosphere that would have been that night in that dressing room.

@TheLoganSomers 9 ай бұрын

Love these “outsider” perspectives on the situation. 🤘🔥💯 Ken is a living legend and deserves to be more recognized by both the WWE & UFC. Now with the merger they should be celebrating all the talent from each sport that dared to step outside their comfort zone. Guys like O’Haire / Shamrock / Tough Enough winner Daniel Puder etc should be hailed and put on a fuckin pedestal man. We all know the Legacies built by Lesnar and Rousey ; it’s time WWE pay respects for those individuals that paved the way for them to do so.

@David-lp4gd Жыл бұрын

Bret’s crew would have laid a serious beat down on Shawn’s crew.

@michaelberry1382 Жыл бұрын

For sure. Severn and Ken proved they could fight for real. Just those two guys alone would be good to break 2-3 peoples legs or arms each before anyone knows what the hell happened.

@Zeke1379 5 ай бұрын

no doubt....The Hart Foundation plus several others, some being trained up in Calgary....toughesty person in shawns crew was chyna lol....and she in the end preferred the Harts

@SameerPrehistorica Жыл бұрын

Nice interview and Ken Shamrock looks great for his age, still has huge biceps.

@ryant2418 Жыл бұрын

nice shoot - always like ken and dan

@truthhurtseverybody1289 Ай бұрын

That is true. Bret did say in a shoot that he wanted to drop it to Ken.

@gamedealers Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn has the perfect Sully look from uncharted

@ianseward3886 Жыл бұрын

Why does it seem like Dan is sizing up Ken this whole interview lol

@ReeseMan Жыл бұрын

legends ken and dan

@seth3054 Жыл бұрын

Ken was one of my favorite dudes in wrestling during that time... they should have worked with him more

@philipbeasley72 Жыл бұрын

When it comes to wrestling philosophy, Mick Foley and Bret Hart. Genius wrestling IQ

@Tony-ol9ru Жыл бұрын

Scott Hall too.

@jasonfernandes8557 Жыл бұрын

And Jake "the snake"Roberts

@josephgerges7746 Жыл бұрын

Owen too

@McGomezAddams Жыл бұрын

Apparently Vince and his people kicked in the locker room door to fight and Pat Patterson got bit by a dog

@kalebsmith4907 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@lee.valley Жыл бұрын

I heard the finks hair got pulled.!!! 😳

@jamesgallagher1992 Жыл бұрын

@@lee.valley yep..3hairs to be exact🤘

@graciegjj Жыл бұрын

Fake news agent

@XxowendanxX Жыл бұрын

In the weiner.

@theoelliott4649 Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn ULTIMATE POKER FACE

@ChuckImania Жыл бұрын

Kind of weird how Owen dies at a PPV called "Over the edge"... Pretty masonic.

@casanovaclown Жыл бұрын

It's all planned out just like in 2002 at the "No Way Out" PPV that brought in the "NWO".

@MrFatsluttytone Жыл бұрын

Whoa never thought about that

@graciegjj Жыл бұрын

😬😳

@FreddieBlaze Жыл бұрын

The most dangerous man in the world Ken Shamrock☘

@ken9268 Жыл бұрын

I never knew Brett wanted to drop the championship to ken I wish he had would have been interesting to see

@mugabi9502 Жыл бұрын

The whole screwjob could have been avoided.

@thetreeofwoe2304 Жыл бұрын

Dan has the face of someone who is laying in their casket at their wake.

@rackballjones6585 Жыл бұрын

We all do

@CLuvTravels Ай бұрын

I'm curious how long a fight between Shamrock and Haku would be lol

@dr.henryjones616 Жыл бұрын

WWE caught a huge break in that WCW completely and absolutely ruined and botched Bret Hart. Imagine back in the 80s, a prime Hulk Hogan on the Iron Shiek stint, coming over to WCW. I will never forget that absolute blunder of a Monday night nitro; ladies and gentlemen, Bret Hart. They didn't know what to do with him. So much potential, it was ridiculous.

@jakemonster001 Жыл бұрын

At the very least they could’ve continued Bret’s Canada feud with the Clique, ala the NWO. Shit, throw in traditional NWA/WCW contingent and the Four Hoursemen into that feud and you’d have years of storylines.

@andrewsanchez4730 Жыл бұрын

They should of definitely had him come as a surprise and put him in a match not as a special guest referee 🙄 😒

@nellsun2521 Жыл бұрын

WCW definitely had an opportunity to poach a lot of WWF viewers like myself at that moment after the screwjob. I remember tuning in and just feeling nothing from what I was seeing Bret do down there. While WWF were continuing to capitalise on it.

@jamesbyersmusic Жыл бұрын

Did WCW really ruin Bret? His debut was completely flat and pointless, and yes WCW didn't seem to come up with any great ideas for him, but according to interviews with people at WCW Bret rarely came up with any ideas either. But it's Wrestling, so who knows what's really true. In any case, Bret Hart in WCW could and should have been magic, but it just wasn't a good fir for either party.

@micksawyer1112 Жыл бұрын

The irony of all that although it was way later in hid career but the same would happen with Sting.

@MarkJackson-wc2xh Жыл бұрын

Shamrock is morphing into Al Bundy. 🤭

@curthennig9448 9 күн бұрын

Is Ken selling shoes now?

@chrisframbers8267 Жыл бұрын

That Owen fall could have been murder.

@graciegjj Жыл бұрын

🤔😦😬😳

@81ghale Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn just sitting there counting how many seconds it would take him to take out every person in that room in his head.

@michaelberry1382 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Beast and Ken alone would’ve broken arms or legs on 2-3 people each before anyone could figure out what the hell happened.

@donjohn2695 Жыл бұрын

Dan would have taken them all out in his sleep

@Seldomseen77 Жыл бұрын

How did you ever get these two in the same room 😳

@Being_Joe Жыл бұрын

That "Trust" angle is not something you hear often when discussing the Screwjob.

@1Momofthree3 Ай бұрын

I like how he listed “myself, Davey Boy, Owen, British Bulldog.” Wait…Davey is the British Bulldog 😂

@jasonbrophy7921 Жыл бұрын

I still remember the nut shot Dan hit ken with during the last second of the guillotine in ufc

@Sum_Jigh Жыл бұрын

Yep! Ken wore a metal cup during that fight because he knew Severn would do exactly that.

@stpierrecanada1 Жыл бұрын

They totally should have done more with him, they could have ran with the “World’s most dangerous Man” angle for a long time.

@motherlovinsnuffstar Жыл бұрын

Look at all the wrestlers who died while working for wwe, and the ones who died afterwards. People still think Benoit killed his family and himself. I don't buy it, never did.

@aceassn716 Жыл бұрын

Taskmaster got his revenge Kevin sullivan booked his wife to be with chris as his valet for starters.. Chris&Nancy fall for each other, along with Chris winning Big Gold an still leaving the next night to raw, alot of us watching back then knew he would get his revenge for embarrassing him twice He prolly got Brian Pillman taken out for his I respect you booker man, an walking out the company, forget the ring or arena

@derekdash2179 Жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to see Shamrock as champion. Even as a placeholder for Shawn to eventually get the belt.

@rkives2030 Жыл бұрын

Polk high’s finest !!!!!

@JC23783 Жыл бұрын

Pro wrestling is fascinating

@aleiterful Жыл бұрын

Lmao this guy is delirious

@undertakerfanz628 Жыл бұрын

Book em wit got dam shamrock

@PoisonClan73 Жыл бұрын

Going crosseyed can be humbling.

@BeeBumper Жыл бұрын

Davey was there twice

@mukesh.dhimar Жыл бұрын

Insanity that some people think that The Montreal Screw job was a work. They probably believe that Santa Claus is real.

@U2BEMatchmaker Жыл бұрын

I keep waiting for Severn to turn heel on Ken and submit him during this interview. - Ed Baker

@genxtasy9914 Жыл бұрын

Dan has barely aged

@alwaysamysteryyes2021 Жыл бұрын

Davey and Owen were in the room as were the agents and Shane.

@mintythekid119 Жыл бұрын

So it was all pre planned?

@dwade6322 Жыл бұрын

Severn looks at Ken like "YOU ARE SUCH A BULL SHITTER".

@daerth4423 Жыл бұрын

Severn looks at everyone like that all the time.

@Tarantulisimo Жыл бұрын

no bullshit detected -- granted that everyone involved adds their own personl POV spin to it, but Shamrock's basic story sounds about exactly how the sh*t unfolded...And Severn looks at everyone like that.

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

@@Tarantulisimo You were there?

@MatthewSmith-vc8go Жыл бұрын

When I was younger, I was really upset about the Montreal Screw Job. But looking back, it all made business sense. Vince couldn't have someone walk off with the WWE title to then compete in another franchise. What was Brett thinking? I get it he didn't like Shawn, but he had to drop the belt before leaving.

@Borincano_Cubano Жыл бұрын

Can't say if Ken Shamrock was telling the truth about Bret Hart was willing to drop the belt to him. I know Bret was willing to drop the belt to either Undertaker or Stone Cold. Bret even said during an interview from way back.

@alwaysamysteryyes2021 Жыл бұрын

He had a whole list of people besides those two including Owen and Foley. He said he would've dropped to Brawler over Shawn.

@gregggartside2053 Жыл бұрын

The story is absolutely true. Bret wanted to drop the title to Ken who would’ve lost to Shawn in the later month.

@mugabi9502 Жыл бұрын

@@gregggartside2053 That would have made more sense but no Vince just had to screw him.

@gregggartside2053 Жыл бұрын

@@mugabi9502 there was rumor the title was going to change hands on The War Zone in October of 97(?). Bret wrestled Ken to end the night and attempted to lock in the Sharpshooter when Ken rolled it into the ankle lock. The decision was made to have Hebner take a bump and Shawn run in to break it up at the last minute.

@miked3858 Жыл бұрын

at last years int. pro wrestling hall of fame induction weekend. sunny told me it was a work.

@mringram Жыл бұрын

She was drunk

@LordRaptor Жыл бұрын

It's crazy that WWE didn't have anything better for freaking Shamrock and Severn (who were there at about the same time too) back when they were white hot, it really feels like it was a sabotage job bafflingly, as if WWE already thought of them as competition BEFORE they were actual competition.

@ssnadera6498 Жыл бұрын

shamrock got punished the way ahmed was, when shamrock joined the corporation it was clear he was moved to midcard status next to bossman

@42069LT Жыл бұрын

sucks we never got Shamrock vs Kurt Angle

@Oxmen33 Жыл бұрын

Dude they're getting younger

@cuntbag6969 Жыл бұрын

Tito Santana vs Ricky Steamboat...Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock.

@mbear14 Ай бұрын

Severn's animosity toward Ken during this 8-minute answer? 100 out of 100! Jesus Christ. I think this explains why Dan didn't do the *in-person* interview with Frye and Shamrock a few months ago (after this). They are friendly now, but during *this* interview, Severn can't stay calm (he wasn't settled). Fin.

@vikdaddy Жыл бұрын

Imagine Ken coming back to face Brocck in early 2000s

@chrismurray1084 Жыл бұрын

I heard that he was wanting to drop the belt to either stone cold or undertaker the next night

@wispa1a Жыл бұрын

Davey boy and British bulldog in the same room?😂

@Millwall77 Жыл бұрын

Who would have thought?

@hymansahak181 Жыл бұрын

Work would have made perfect sense for everybody: Vince, WWE, Shawn and Bret. Work is the logical explanation. They all knew this was going down. Bret didn’t like it but that’s to bad.

@michaelrubin9547 Жыл бұрын

It was a real shoot

@drvn8 Жыл бұрын

This point about trust in the ring might be the most interesting and reasonable take on why the Montreal Screwjob was the wrong way to go about business.

@praveenliverpool Жыл бұрын

Good one Bret. Serves him(Vince) right

@enisengin2950 Жыл бұрын

A work? 😂

@augustushaynes1311 2 ай бұрын

I could’ve sworn I had heard past renditions of this story from everyone else there and when Vince walked into the locker room initially, Bret was showering, and he told Vince to leave before he got done showering or he was going to punch Vince. And Vince stayed, and Bret clocked him in front of whatever boys were there. So idk what this version of the story is that Ken is telling.

@curthennig9448 9 күн бұрын

I thought Bulldog was always in the locker room and had gotten in the scuffle when Bret went at Vince. Maybe Rude was in there too from what I remember.

@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Жыл бұрын

Shamrock tells a completely different story, appeasement he asked to stay in there and was told to leave, and there was a large group in there when the fight happened

@Stuart267 Жыл бұрын

I think Undertaker's version is more plausible

@thebreeze12 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Ken has taken too many punches to the head...he lacks quite a bit of memory from many different accounts of what happened in the dressing post SS97

@adamvvs2644 Жыл бұрын

Funny how someone says something and everyone follows Dies and Raz were essentially with Shawn Which is where this comment originated from

@YoSoyDaddy Жыл бұрын

Or maybe perhaps some left when Vince said, "get out" and some stayed. Could be possible.

@jmi84 Жыл бұрын

@@YoSoyDaddy yeah there were definitely some that stayed behind. Undertaker was one of them that stayed. I do think Owen and Davey left because in the wrestling with shadows documentary if I recall I think I remember Owen asking Bret if he knocked Vince McMahon out with a punch. So I don’t think Owen stayed behind.

@jsniff2112 Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn's nostrils have a lot of input here.

@Speedyreedy1218 Жыл бұрын

He just said Bret didn't want to drop the title to Steve or Shawn. 🥴

@mcpan90 Жыл бұрын

What's the "Owen thing?"

@rezroyce Жыл бұрын

Out of every other wrestler. Vince decides to book Hart to lose the belt to Michaels. The one person he had the most problems with. I would’ve slapped the shit out of vince too.

@christopherwisniewski9139 Жыл бұрын

I don't blame you. Here's the thing about the Montreal fiasco. Vince, for one, proved that Shawn was his boy. From what I remember reading, it was Triple H who came up with the plan. If not a significant part of it. Shawn's book...Heartbreak and Triumph....basically admitted that. Now, Vince should've had greater faith in Bret Hart. His whole deal was fearing if Bret would show up on WCW TV and drop the then-WWF World Title in a trash can. Similar to what Madusa did. Eric Bischoff denies he would have allowed it to happen, but Madusa was WWF women's champion inactive, and she got away with dropping Vince's property in a trash can...live on Nitro. So who can say if the world championship could have wound up that way. I agree Vince should've been slapped, to wake himself up. Bret Hart was trusted. And he 30 days in his contract, so he had the right to deny dropping title to hbk.

@NookTommy Жыл бұрын

@@christopherwisniewski9139 he also has creative control in the last 30 days of his contract

@thewanderer2020 Жыл бұрын

They should have worked it out where Shamrock causes a DQ in the Survivor Series match and then Brett drops the title to him the next night. Brett leaves, Shamrock and Michaels feud over the belt.

@brandongarrel2825 Жыл бұрын

Dan Severn or ray finkle?

@SwabySean1 Жыл бұрын

I never knew that Bret wanted to drop the Championship to Ken Shamrock. I always thought Bret just didn't want ti drop the WWF title in Montreal.

@darknnights7310 Жыл бұрын

Bret told Vince he'd drop it to shamrock or Austin on the Monday the issue was HBK was total prick Bret dropped it to him at the previous WM 12 iron man match but when Hbk had to drop it back to Bret at WM 13 Shawn suddenly looses his smile and doesn't do the honours plus Bret said to Shawn I'm happy to put you over Shawn replied I won't do the same Watch rivalries dvd Jim Ross interviews both together tells you all that happened

@XxowendanxX Жыл бұрын

He didn't want to drop it to that dirty god-damned little bastard Shawn

@curthennig9448 9 күн бұрын

Bret wanted no part of dropping the title in Canada.

@lossiiburns Жыл бұрын

That would have been nice to see bret drops the belt to shamrock shamrock drop it to hbk at dx in your house then the rematch at the Royal rumble hbk comes out on top thanks to the rock stone cold win the rumble and we still get hbk vs stone cold and shamrock vs the rock at wrestlemania xiv

@UncleTermite Жыл бұрын

Severn can’t keep his eyes off of Shamrocks arms…lol….😳

@thekenjirosangaarena Жыл бұрын

Sure Ken won King of The Ring 98 did he not?

@PettyThoughtzMedia Жыл бұрын

Shamrock still looks good

@graciegjj Жыл бұрын

So does Dan

@wrestlingtapes2036 Жыл бұрын

Brets the goat

@jackbauer4186 Жыл бұрын

Severn quietly fantasizing about how he would have taken Vince McMahons arms off and beat him with them if he ever screwed him over like that.

@johnnymack8442 Жыл бұрын

Ken and Dan are cool?

@johnrawlings2161 Жыл бұрын

It was a work lmao

@dougschadel8094 Жыл бұрын

This explains why Ken isn't in the hall of Fame

@davidpenn9396 Жыл бұрын

Vince controlled it all watch the Bio channel where Bret explains what just happened when he got screwed against Shawn and Owen dies later which someone knew the scandals that happened at WWE