How Powerful is Darth Vader?

How Powerful is Darth Vader? | Star Wars Canon

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#DarthVader #obiwankenobi #starwars
0:00 Intro
2:33 Anakin Skywalker
6:30 Duel with Obi-Wan
9:35 Obtaining his Sith Lightsaber
12:30 Surpassing Anakin
16:42 The Return of Darth Momin
19:30 Rematch of the Century
21:10 Vader's Prime
25:10 The Conflict
28:40 Peak Power
34:30 I Feel the Good In You
36:00 Speed and Force Abilities
Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith - one of the most iconic characters in cinematic history has returned for the Obi-Wan series and I could not be more excited to discuss Star Wars again. As many long-time subscribers know, I used to cover Star Wars all the time - not to the level that I detail Marvel Cinematic Universe or DC Extended Universe power scaling, but a decent amount. I have made videos on Ahsoka, Darth Maul, Mace Windu, Boba Fett, and even the High Republic. I’m a massive fan, but with other properties taking up the bulk of my time, I haven’t had the chance to delve into Star Wars as much, but now is the time to return. So, in this video I will be detailing Darth Vader’s incredible power, speed, and force abilities; however, I’m going to do it a bit differently than a typical Key Issues power scaling video. I’m going to take you on a journey from Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side and his rebirth as Darth Vader in Revenge of the Sith all the way through his death in Return of the Jedi to show you how powerful Vader is throughout his time as Sidious’ most powerful weapon.

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@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

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@transformerstuff7029 Жыл бұрын

@@KDMSHOWCASE yup.

@wilmerlubian3564 Жыл бұрын

Hello Key Issues! Can you do a video on how powerful/strong Thor is during Thor Love and Thunder?

@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 Жыл бұрын

Darth Sidious would be a perfect character to promote Duracell batteries... Unlimited POWAAAAAHHHH (Enter intense sidious laugh) 😂HAHAHAHA😂

@CharlieHepp Жыл бұрын

is true

@PingoDS 10 ай бұрын

"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the force" -Darth Vader

@aftoncultistandsimp 10 ай бұрын

LMAO FR

@Stalker_Monkee 3 ай бұрын

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@nexus8796 Жыл бұрын

People tend to forget that water is denser than air. In fallen order, the water Vader held is more impressive than it looks. Plus having to keep the entire area of the base from collapsing in due to the water. Ahsoka should get more credit for her standing up to Vader. Though his power level wasn't topped, still impressive.

@julien6871 Жыл бұрын

I'm agreeing with you He is holding 136,586,969.32kg DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EQUATES TO The titanic fully loaded with people and food. He wouldn't even break a sweat lifting the titanic, he could deadlift the titanic, big ben, the Washington monument, 11 elephants, 50 grand pianos, 5 international space stations, and 10 fully fueled Antonov 255's at the same time! And still have enough force to drink a cup of tea. Vader is beast! Do or do not there is no try size means nothing freakin Yoda nearly had a heart attack lifting a x-wing out of a swamp meanwhile I'm reasonably certain Vader's over here making Starkiller look like an outclassed baby for struggling to just like barely push an imperial stardestroyer a little bit. This man is strong with the force in a terrifying way.

@gslinger19 Жыл бұрын

Vader ended up so deep in the water in the current comics that it was black all around. He was able to keep himself inside a sort of force bubble long enough to get to a safer place. That is truly insane. Look for Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith. Vol 3. The Burning Skies, to see it for yourself.

@AdrienMitchell69 Жыл бұрын

Wait. Who forgets that water is denser than air? Who are you hanging out with? 😂

@julien6871 Жыл бұрын

@@AdrienMitchell69 meaning its heavier, people brush it off

@absolutleynotanalien8096 Жыл бұрын

771 times heavier

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Жыл бұрын

Damn Darth Vader is more powerful than he was depicted in the movies

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Much more so!

@mistamaog Жыл бұрын

To be fair, he was much older in the movies, plus conflicted with his feelings about his son

@Senate917 Жыл бұрын

This always happens if a series gets comics to tie in to stuff. They end up being powerful as hell and in the movie it looks like a joke lol.

@giosbizarreart9048 Жыл бұрын

@@mistamaog he was actually strongest in ROTJ it’s just that the directors don’t care for showing crazy feats of strength and also didn’t have the right techniques and technology to do so

@Tribrid-zv3nq 9 ай бұрын

@@Senate917 you cant expect a character to be as powerful on live action.

@UnswimmingFishYT Жыл бұрын

Vader also has beskar hands, instead of the durasteel like the rest of his suit, and he actually has an electrifying net-like blast attack built into them, to make up for his lack of force lightning, which he couldn't use without flesh hands. Then there's the physical strength not often seen with him being able to punch a large dent into a metal surface, and lift several hundred pounds without much effort.

@creed8712 Жыл бұрын

Beskar? Is that how they’ve explained away his hand thing in Empire cause them just being metal/ a force power sounds a lot better because otherwise vader would just be dusting people with the force of a truck

@UnswimmingFishYT Жыл бұрын

@@creed8712 Well, he has in a few cases dented metal walls and a table, and in a canon comic he actually did beat a man to death with his fists, which looked very brutal and did more damage than you'd expect from a normal hand. It's possible to find cases where his beskar hands are used to do damage, but it usually just doesn't happen because he favors his lightsaber and force powers, which I would too if I had those things. There is mention that blasters can be stopped by the force, but I don't remember anyone actually blocking one with it, only a very rare occurence of freezing them temporarily.

@absolutleynotanalien8096 Жыл бұрын

One beskar hand.

@absolutleynotanalien8096 Жыл бұрын

Or glove the inside isn't beskar.

@dorkydorgi5873 Жыл бұрын

Didn’t vader like rip apart space time or something?

@Blazecap Жыл бұрын

You should do more Star Wars vids. These are great!

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@MADTHEJUDOKA Жыл бұрын

Facts

@benparrish672 Жыл бұрын

Space Balls > Star Wars

@staroceans8677 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree!!! 💜

@naterybar9106 Жыл бұрын

Great video man. This is exactly the reason why Vader lost to Obi-Wan in the rematch because he was conflicted plain and simple. He wasn't fully enveloped in the dark side that's why palps sensed Anakin peeking through. Also vader was crying! That's Anakin crying. Even in Legends where Vader is said to be 80% of the emperor due to his injuries palpatine even States that he believed Vader could reawaken his full potential even in the suit and injuries if he got rid of the Anakin side of him a psychologically fucked up part if he fully embraced his choices and the path said before him he could reawaken true power, Which is why sidious thought Vader's weakness was psychological and not so much physical. But in this new comics as your video shows the Marvel Disney comics he's an absolute powerhouse. In this new iteration he no longer lost any of his Force potential due to his lost limbs and injuries as he did in Legends. I don't know about you but I think it's great to see Darth Vader in his iconic suit one of the greatest creations in the world of all time being an absolute badass a monster and the true rival to sidious he truly truly tapped in to his hatred and pain about all he lost and his wife Vader seems to have a Hulk like complex about him and if he used this I believe he could have taken the emperor on one-on-one.

@johnmanonas9088 Жыл бұрын

Finally someone who really knows canon vader

@davidtabaka2663 Жыл бұрын

You're right. Vader does have a Hulk like complex. Goosefrabba. Goosefrabba. You know when Obi-One says strike me down in anger and I will be with you always? Reminds me of David and Goliath. Remember it was David Banner before it was Bruce Banner. Psalm 122:5

@jub3802 Жыл бұрын

blud ain’t ever heard of a form of punctuation

@prestonchurch8081 Жыл бұрын

I also think people forget just how good of a duelist obi-wan was being one of the best duelists if not the best at his style.

@DanRivers22 11 ай бұрын

Vader is my favourite fictional character period. And this video is a stroke of genius.

@rozzysadventures4434 Жыл бұрын

What's even more amazing... The fact that he lost half of his body..i.e. Half of his midiclorians. And still had that amazing level of power..

@babeatriple Жыл бұрын

Bro that's not even canon 😭

@eeurr1306 Жыл бұрын

@@babeatriple Like the yoda mountain lift comic was canon.

@babeatriple Жыл бұрын

@@eeurr1306 yes It was canon

@eeurr1306 Жыл бұрын

@@babeatriple That doesnt make sense considering he struggles with way smaller things during the clonewars but okay

@babeatriple Жыл бұрын

@@eeurr1306 did you read the entire comic?

@bndn4018 Жыл бұрын

I am young so i watch them from 1 to 6. It broke my heart seeing my childhood hero loosing his path falling in darkness. But it also sogten my heart seeing him redeem himself joind the light again.a facinating character

@mmm6481 Жыл бұрын

calling obi wan a worse duelist and downplaying his ability is a bit unfair, he was called THE master of form 3 by windu, which almost perfectly countered anakins attack minded form

@solen5529 Жыл бұрын

I mean he straight up was a worse dualist then Anakin no argument about that Anakin had him outclassed in Force and Dueling

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

He's far worse. Look at his duels compared to the best in the galaxy. Yoda, Mace and Anakin are vastly superior.

@user-xr3ul2xc1l Жыл бұрын

Lol Anakin was toying with obi wan during the mustafar fight. Anakin was at Yoda's level in revenge of the sith, I mean, his djem-so attack form is on par with plo koon's djem-so, and plo koons beat Yoda, so Anakin could too

@adilhussain5154 Жыл бұрын

@@user-xr3ul2xc1l vader wasn’t toying with obi wan on mustafar and plo koon never beat yoda, that’s literally from some shitty video game that isn’t canon

@user-xr3ul2xc1l Жыл бұрын

@@adilhussain5154 Anakin was toying with obi wan, end of story. Anakin could've used the force to put lava on obi wan but Anakin just wanted a fun fight. Anakin is vastly superior.

@gslinger19 Жыл бұрын

I mentioned this before I think in a different video but for force push feats. Vader ended up so deep in the water in the current comics that it was black all around. He was able to keep himself inside a sort of force bubble long enough to get to a safer place. That is truly insane. Look for Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith. Vol 3. The Burning Skies, to see it for yourself.

@ansal2525 8 ай бұрын

He was much more powerful than what was depicted, also, in the Kenobi series. They diminished his power to get an emotional ending. Unfair.

@gslinger19 8 ай бұрын

@ansal2525 yeah and obi wan was tossing half a mountain around. He got bumped up.

@saturncrush 8 ай бұрын

I want them to be done with the Skywalker saga, but I so wish we got a Vader movie to put all notions to rest that he is the baddest ever.

@ansal2525 8 ай бұрын

@@saturncrush A Vader's movie is unnecessary. The whole franchise is about him.

@saturncrush 8 ай бұрын

@@ansal2525 Sadly you are correct. Seeing aspects of Vader in the comics is all we are going to get unfortunately. Vader breaking loose would be epic

@staroceans8677 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video, it was EXCEPTIONAL 👍 Captivating, brilliantly narrated, excellent composition and an absolute treat to fans who adore and enjoy the knowledge and life of Anakin and Darth. Vader is my favorite, and everything he went through was testament to a remarkable character. He was a force of powerful and immeasurable reckoning!

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, it really means a lot!

@staroceans8677 Жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues You are most welcome and VERY deserving, and to quote our favorite character..."Impressive, MOST impressive!"

@TheChadChamp Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this video for YEARS and it the wait has finally paid off

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

THABK YOU LEGEND

@jocoolshow Жыл бұрын

The only thing about the Obi-Wan vs Anakin duel at the end of episode 3 is that while yes, Anakin is stronger than Obi Wan but was conflicted, Obi-Wan was also emotionally unstable. To the point where he begged Yoda to fight the Emperor instead of Anakin. Not only that, but saying Obi-Wan knew Anakin's style flawlessly gave him an advantage is kind of null since Anakin also knows Obi-Wan's style just as well. They cancel each other out in that aspect During the Clone Wars, the general consensus was that Anakin had the edge in raw power but Obi-Wan has the edge in tactics/cunning and was relative enough to beat him. Also, with Anakin being conflicted, yes he was nerfed, but he wasn't nerfed compared to his beginning of Episode 3 self, he was nerfed compared to the massive dark side amp he got that shot him above Yoda and Mace If I'm not remembering wrong, the novelization said something along the lines of Obi Wan achieving a state of Oneness with the force in a similar way to what happened against Grevious while Anakin's dark side amps were growing

@the_rose_garden01 Жыл бұрын

You're right in that last paragraph, the Force was moving with and chose Obi-Wan in that fight. It's not that Anakin was nerfed, it's that Obi-Wan was buffed

@AlukaXD Жыл бұрын

plus my guy arrogance made him get his limbs cut off

@its_dey_mate Жыл бұрын

Aannd Obi-wan is the single greatest practitioner of Soresu. If anyone has a chance at beating Anakin, its someone who can go on the defensive longer than Anakin going on the offensive, until a mistake is made.

@tetrasphere8165 Жыл бұрын

Obi would have definitely knew anakin better than the other way around. He kept watching sky guy run into battle leaving his master behind. Ben was always watching MR "no I'm taking him NOW!" And thats why Little Ani got fd up

@sinoxilurk4126 10 ай бұрын

anakin was "blinded with fury" in their RoTS duel. onlike obi wan he didnt think properly so i dont think their knowledge of each other cancels out

@ogimbad8983 Жыл бұрын

You're videos are so much better then any other KZfaqrs for explaining the power of characters. I'd love for you to make a video on the true power of Darth Nihilus.

@DevinDTV Жыл бұрын

i mean you can literally hear how low this guy's IQ is from the way he speaks. he said a character is "relative" to another character, as if it's a synonym for "comparable", rather than a synonym for "in comparison to". a native english speaker should know how the word "relative" is used in a sentence. and he said vader has reaction speed faster than light, even though reaction speed is a measure of time, not velocity. and he keeps using "tons" as a unit of energy when it's actually a unit of mass, although i imagine he means "tons of tnt", despite him not realizing it. and he wants to measure everything by energy (or mass?) even when other physical properties like power would obviously be more appropriate. this guy would do much better to simply list the feats and not attempt to perform any analysis, because he blatantly lacks the abilities to pull it off.

@crammothy Жыл бұрын

Obi-Wan was still one of the best duelists in the order, being classified as a level 8 or 7 by Nick Gillard (stunt and fight coordinator of the prequels) depending on if there is a level 9 or not.

@edot7266 Жыл бұрын

Dude was skilled enough to survive a full on 1v1 against Greievous. something that's quite impressive as a duelist.

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

@@edot7266 grievous is really unimpressive

@jakielou1884 11 ай бұрын

@@KeyIssues someone didn't see og clone wars miniseries

@ItsButterBean1020 11 ай бұрын

@@jakielou1884tbh that’s not canon anymore, Grievous sadly is a jobber

@spicefactor9604 10 ай бұрын

@@jakielou1884that ain't canon brah

@michaelmyers0003 Жыл бұрын

But can he beat Batman with prep time tho?

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

😅

@Gangst3r4ever Жыл бұрын

No. His suit is too vulnerable. And you can use his mental state against him. If I were Batman I would drug him to halucinate about Padme and use some electricity to take out his suit. Then give the killing strike. Bye bye Vader.

@Tom-iv6kh Жыл бұрын

@@Gangst3r4ever 🤓

@the_rose_garden01 Жыл бұрын

@@Gangst3r4ever You can't use prep time against a Force Sensitive. The Force will tell them. Its been stated many times that the best way to actually fight someone trained in how to use the Force, you have to be completely clear headed and be as spontaneous and random as possible. Batman would never be able to touch him. Combine this with the fact he won't go for the kill, but Vader absolutely will. He gets his neck broken immediately Bye bye Batman Edit: what's also funny, is that everything you said, Vader literally has already gone through and overcame it and grew stronger

@Gangst3r4ever Жыл бұрын

@@the_rose_garden01 Well that's just plot armor

@rjc0188 Жыл бұрын

One of your best vids imo. Thank you.

@ThatLobster-ly5jz Жыл бұрын

Absolutely great video man! I hope this videos gets much appreciation because it is just great and very in-depth.

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@girlthasquis6484 19 күн бұрын

This video did not feel like 42 minutes . The way you read and your tone/emphasis changes made it feel like a conversation. Well done mate 🤝🏾

@krxwnvxk3432 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the upload, very informative

@markjustdiditc Жыл бұрын

man this video is sick... really well done.... I salute you sir..

@guesswho8556 Жыл бұрын

Gotta appreciate staying consistent with canon and not just making a composite video

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Combining the two continuities is so lazy to me

@guesswho8556 Жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues I agree. I'm worried some of your quotes might have been taken from novelizations of the movies before Disney made the retcon. Are those canon?

@calebejosesousarocha2921 Жыл бұрын

@@guesswho8556 According with Star Wars Books, it's canon inside of novelizations only what don't contradict the movies. What is very contradictory

@captaincringe9480 Жыл бұрын

I cant believe I used to think vader would lose to yoda, too many people are spreading that 80% of sidious myth everywhere.

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Yeah that 80% thing is total nonsense, especially for canon

@STOKEZGAMING Жыл бұрын

Also his suit is sort of a double-edged sword. It's pretty durable and his gloves can stop blasts and like you said fireproof and more, but on the other hand it's extremely uncomfortable but that works to his advantage and also its very weak to electricity, as Palpatine made sure if darth vader were to try to kill him, lightning would shut him down

@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Жыл бұрын

Shutting down the suit doesn't halt an enraged Vader, his rage could probably keep him moving long enough to finish the fight or do a lot of damage.

@STOKEZGAMING Жыл бұрын

@Miguel Condado Olivar no I didn't mean shut down like that, I meant to shut that shit down as in best his ass up

@justaguy7230 Жыл бұрын

Great work guys!! 👏

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 Жыл бұрын

Great break down. Im now subbed to your channel 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@brandonmazique Жыл бұрын

incredible video! you got my sub!! may the force be with you! 🖐

@Jordanthomas95 Ай бұрын

Fantastic video. You should do an updated one with the recent Vader comics now that he is more on par with Palpatine

@thewheelybinguy Жыл бұрын

Please do more Star Wars videos it’s my favourite franchise other than marvel and DC also do a who is more powerful yoda or mace windu also love this channel keep up the good work

@rodan9773 Жыл бұрын

An awesome long video to talk about The Prime Sith Lord...Nice. Respect and keep up the epic work 😃👍.

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it

@Callum_Callum Жыл бұрын

Another great vid maaaaan! 👀

@xXSonTJXx Жыл бұрын

Amazing video!

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MegaChorro123 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@absolutleynotanalien8096 Жыл бұрын

I think there was some force involved in how Hedda was able to "see" that ship or the strange nature of hyperspace wich is a difent dimension... or the creators once again failed to grasp the scale of things similar to how the clone army was able to fight a war across a major part of the galaxy with less than 1.2 milion units when the war started and i think it was around 6 milion in the end.

@Crackmiser Жыл бұрын

Every inquisitor could have fought him at once and they still would have only had about a 50/50 chance. edit: more like 2 out of 10

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Probably less than that 😭

@Jhappell224 Жыл бұрын

Definitely less, he maims every single inquisitor when he first meets them just to teach them about pain.

@tariffictypist7372 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure half of them did. And we're embarrassed by him including limb chopping although it was sparring

@pampanamonick7076 Жыл бұрын

50/50 at not dying in the first 20 seconds

@darth_vedant669 Жыл бұрын

Well it seems you are oblivious to the power of Vader compared to the inquisitor

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Жыл бұрын

I wanna see you do Omni Man vs DCEU Superman

@gliizee Жыл бұрын

Omni Man stomps lmao. TV show Omni Man also stomps.

@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Жыл бұрын

@@gliizee isn’t Tv Show Omni Man stopping a meteor the size of Texas like Moon Level

@gliizee Жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Oh shit ur right. Best feat for DCEU Superman is moving those tectonic plates in MoS in that scene of the newspapers on a wall. So in actuality both versions of Omni Man stomp.

@Jsipki265 Жыл бұрын

@@gliizee lol not a stomp

@gliizee Жыл бұрын

@@Jsipki265 Lol it is a stomp 💀

@dimond360_ Жыл бұрын

I think you should do another powerscaling tier list like what you did with Marvel but for Star Wars

@Mikerille Жыл бұрын

Post suit Vader is soooooo much stronger than pre suit Vader, idk why but people still seem to think that Vader got weaker after mustafar, but the canon comic he killed kirak infila without a lightsaber (which amps a force user) and when heavily conflicted (he almost died bleeding the crystal a day after he was so conflicted) and kirak is confirmed stronger than oneness boost obi wan, and mace. He only becomes leaps and bounds superior after that.

@redace4821 Жыл бұрын

The correct way to say is Vader is more limited with the suit on. But his Force prowess and Lightsaber impact is far more powerful than he was pre suited. But of course, the suit limit is mobility, and that's it.

@Mikerille Жыл бұрын

@@redace4821 I wouldn’t even say his suit limits his mobility, same as it never did any samurai. He still seems extremely mobile in every fight I’ve ever seen him in. Doin twirls, backflips, massive side dodges, idk I just don’t get the feel the suit limited anything.

@a-1moves750 Жыл бұрын

George Lucas said he did he said his power dropped 40% so if Lucas said it then it’s law:

@Mikerille Жыл бұрын

@@a-1moves750 wrong, since Lucas doesn’t have anything to do with Star Wars works. What you’re referring to is the extended lore, where Vader is pathetically weak.

@TheBombasticFatRat Жыл бұрын

He's more powerful yes but has less potential to grow

@jamesmonorow574 Жыл бұрын

Another banger why am I not surprised

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@CRISIS_COMICS Жыл бұрын

Double you

@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen Жыл бұрын

When you think about it, that's a MASSIVE praise.

@helloimtobi Жыл бұрын

one of the best things disney has done for vader is give him mustafar, his castle, and all his backstory.

@michaeln_nightwolf Жыл бұрын

You're, extremely, talented. Thank you for focusing on my favorite thing in the entire world: Star Wars, and my favorite character of all, time: Anakin/Darth Vader. I 100% identify with Anakin/Vader. I understand that pull to the Darkside and also to the Light. Extreme, trauma and of course abuse, etc, leads some, people to channel their, inner "Vader". That rage and hatred can be POWERFUL which I believe makes Darth Vader so, much, more POWERFUL than Sidious could ever, DREAM of being. He knew this, which is why he psychologically manipulated Vader to never challenge him, because Palpatine knew that the day Vader turned on him, Vader would DESTROY him. Vader's pain and hatred as The Chosen One, made him unstoppable. That, type of rage is not to be underestimated.

@weeaboo-warrior Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Palpatine was just saying the kyber crystal/final order powers were at his disposal, not that his force power was equal to it.

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure I'm right.

@weeaboo-warrior Жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues Can you further explain your reasoning for interpreting his statement that way?

@MOVIEPOWER_YT Жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues You are wrong

@dimond360_ Жыл бұрын

I agree with Weeaboo, If Palpatine had the equal power of all those kyber crystals then he would have just been destroying planets himself and wouldn't have needed the final order. Weeaboo should do another rebuttal video like with the Ahsoka one

@crammothy Жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues I read the comic and it doesn’t seem to me like Palpatine is controlling it using the force, it just seems like it’s just another asset of his.

@DaddyHensei Жыл бұрын

Anakin/Vader is only able to be defeated when he’s conflicted. If his mind is in the game though, lightside or darkside there’s no hope for his opponent. Anakin/Vader is emotionally vulnerable and can’t handle them as well as his jedi and sith counter parts. It’s his weakness, always has been.

@Kinyr 7 ай бұрын

Palpatine had to nerf his suit cuz even after mustafar if he gave Vader an amazing suit then Vader would've killed him right after the surgery. He even tried to in the comics but the suit was susceptible to lightning and Palpatine had him on a leash for that reason. Palpatine is a giant pussy

@joshkrause2977 Жыл бұрын

Darth Vader with a beskar armor enhanced suit would be insane.

@ItsButterBean1020 11 ай бұрын

I believe his hands are beskar

@shadowdragon3521 Жыл бұрын

All that power, and yet he could not use the force to heal his injuries and regrow his limbs. What a shame

@Bazonkaz Жыл бұрын

Probably felt he deserved it

@vyktorehon5995 Жыл бұрын

He also couldn't get no bitches

@adilhussain5154 Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure this is canon and maybe you can correct me if I’m wrong but vader actually tried healing his injuries and when he did he felt much better and wasn’t in as much pain and wasn’t as angry so the light side grew within him and he was returning to anakin but when he did that he lost the ability to heal any more as he needed to be vader to heal himself so it just reverted back to his injured self

@eldricshadowchaser5454 Жыл бұрын

Have you considered doing a video on his Old EU/Legends counterpart?

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

My friend Crisis has already made one. Check it out in the description!

@Venom-rr1vg Жыл бұрын

Nice.. also, your videos are quite informative and entertaining! could you possibly do a How Powerful is Electro (amazing spider-man 2, or no way home)? thx

@youngmoneyclutch Жыл бұрын

Amazing video.

@THE_SSHADOW_REAPER_OF_DEATH 3 ай бұрын

In the end Darrh Vader is still the deadliest force user alive

@coreymccray1100 Жыл бұрын

Of course, I want to see an video for Yoda.

@bellsama6588 Жыл бұрын

It is said that Confliction is the worst thing to happen to a force user because it tend to happen during fights or life or death situations

@canaan_crystalwing99 Жыл бұрын

Yes thank you I agree obi wan at that time against Anakin was not on that level. Now if after he left Ani to die on Mustafa, if he was training all that time I could believe he reaches and possibly surpasses grand master jedi

@stealthven2352 8 ай бұрын

You can actually scale lightsabers at “Small Planet” Level but comparing the two lightsabers to Palpatine’s lightning which can shut down many, many large ships which can survive faster-than-light speed

@natashascullion5241 Жыл бұрын

can you do part 2 of the sith and jedi weakest to strongest teir list

@lorulelegend4362 Жыл бұрын

Wait, Garrick throwing in that video of him playing Bass.. you ain’t slick

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

I just want my subs to know how cute I am

@lorulelegend4362 Жыл бұрын

@@KeyIssues The only sub that matters knows. 🤤

@lumburgapalooza 9 ай бұрын

If you're gonna put a quote or book excerpt on screen, please put the source on screen alongside it. It not only makes it easier for those interested in the material to track it down but properly credits the author at the time of quotation.

@thelastprime4978 Жыл бұрын

Anakins emotions were rampant uncontrollable in the duel on mustafar and his master knew his fighting style and anakin better than anyone which is what led to his defeat at the hands of obi-wan

@darthnexus9570 Жыл бұрын

I'll tell you what buddy, I've listened to two of your videos so far maybe three, and if you do a video on Darth Sidious, you will have gained a subscriber... An yes I know about the Darth Plagueis novel, yet I would like to hear another perspective on it, someone that would draw from all materials...

@557deadpool Жыл бұрын

14:17 God I wish that was me 😩

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

💀

@TheWoodcookie Жыл бұрын

Ive always felt Anakin had a higher potential than Vader but he did not know how to control and anakin never losing as much of his body may have been stronger than Palpatine

@bloodytyran9245 Жыл бұрын

It’s not exactly a feat, but he also was born from the force which is quite unique and his son reached force highs he never did by being able to create a black hole.

@postsniper-7532 Жыл бұрын

Depending on how you view it sidious hinself used the darkside to impregnate scmee skywalker making him the greatest force user ever

@achimpanzee9210 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the black hole feat is in legends which is in a whole different all park from canon.

@ccl7983 Жыл бұрын

@@postsniper-7532 the creators of that comic said it didn’t happen and it was all a vision .

@postsniper-7532 Жыл бұрын

@@ccl7983 all of what didn’t happen because anakin being a created from the force is cannon I only added my two cents

@giosbizarreart9048 Жыл бұрын

@@postsniper-7532 honestly that theory is wack asf

@massielhernandez241 Жыл бұрын

Now this mans is even mord overpowered.

@denvertaylor9195 Жыл бұрын

Yes! More please.

@KingKong-ux3gg Жыл бұрын

That’s the things. Yes of course Obi Wan loved Anakin, but he gave up on him twice and very quickly. Luke never gave up that’s why he got him redeemed.

@idancohen4753 Жыл бұрын

Power scalinggggg. Thank youuuuu

@honoursplace3291 Жыл бұрын

I thought the last rematch he and Obi-Wan had made Vader look a fool. If there is to be a second season, or perhaps some other show/movie set before Rogue One, I believe they have to make the Dark Lord threatening again

@rustledentity5511 Жыл бұрын

If they ended it with Obi-wan being buried alive by Vader, and Vader walks away seemingly triumphant then that would have been a logical ending to their duel. You can still have Obi-wan use the Force to escape, since he needs to survive long enough to teach Luke about the Force in episode 4. Vader's supremacy over Obi-wan was perfectly logical prior to his Super Saiyan power up after he escapes being buried alive. The overall problem with Obi-wan having that kind of power level is his lack of combat experience over the time gap. Vader has not just been training in the Dark side, but has been fighting a war against Rebels, therefore his combat skills are fresh and sharp. Even if Obi-wan had kept up with his training (which the show was stupid to say that he hadn't) he would still be rusty. This is to say nothing of the VAST wealth of Expanded Universe content where Vader has pulled off magnificent feats with the Force, some of which are even greater than what's displayed in the show. The majority of Obi-wan's appearances in the Expanded Universe kept him confined to Tatooine (which is where he should be) therefore he hasn't had any grand space adventures to sharpen his ability with the Force. The evidence for Vader being powerful is overwhelming, whereas the evidence for Obi-wan is close to non-existent.

@CRISIS_COMICS Жыл бұрын

@@rustledentity5511 Vader was conflicted against Obi in the show, non-conflicted Vader would power bomb Obi. His eyes were blue during the fight, and he just let Obi get away after burning him when he could’ve easily reobtained him.

@joshuabridgman7187 Жыл бұрын

@@CRISIS_COMICS completely agree.

@starzilla2975 Жыл бұрын

@@CRISIS_COMICS This is even implied when Palpatine claims that his feelings for Obi Wan had weakened him.

@naterybar9106 Жыл бұрын

@@CRISIS_COMICS you're exactly right bro that's what people don't seem to realize Vader was far from weak power wise he was conflicted just like he was conflicted against ahsoka every time Vader fight somebody from his past that he loved her care for Anakin peeks through messing up later in his connection with the dark side I mean it's evident when he's fighting Obi-Wan he's swinging wildly lunging at Obi-Wan grunting and like you said the first eye you see when helmet is cracked is Anakin's eye not sith yellow Vader's. Also vader was crying! Come on guys that's Anakin crying through Vader. Also vader would have never let Obi-Wan mash up on his control panel like that if he was fully tapped in and just Darth Vader in that moment no way.

@trevturp6891 7 ай бұрын

Vader didn’t learn that Leia was his daughter until Return of The Jedi.

@Youzan808 10 ай бұрын

Obito vs Darth Vader

@AdrianM0816 Жыл бұрын

At 24:07, that quote has no canon value. It's from the blog+news section of the website which is explicitly stated not canon/official by Matt Martin of the story group. Only the databank portion of the site is canon.

@Vader255 Жыл бұрын

You ever gonna rank all the jedi and sith for canon. Also are you going to do that kylo vid you mentioned awhile back

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

I said in my mace video that I’m gonna focus on individual videos instead of rankings

@Vader255 Жыл бұрын

Oh alright well keep up the good work work this was a fire vid

@ryanmalhotra9553 Жыл бұрын

Can u do the legends version pls love ur vids

@SchwarzSchwertkampfer Жыл бұрын

7:24 in a nutshell. Anakin body language wanted to die.

@ThomasCaffarelli3482 Жыл бұрын

Can you power scale darth maul he has been getting underrated lately

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Yes Mr. Darth Maul, sir.

@shumayelkhan8154 Жыл бұрын

He did take on the gods of the force

@genozp2328 Жыл бұрын

I can't say I know as in-depth the knowledge as you've clearly just shown, because this is a very detailed and well done breakdown, but I do see a few things that were definitely left out in some capacity or another. Darth Vader was never actually taught by Darth Sidious, other than minor lessons, to prevent him from gaining an upper hand. At least to my knowledge, despite wanting Anakin Skywalker to one day surpass him, after his fall on mustafar, he didn't believe that Darth Vader could ever regain the potential he once had as the chosen one of the force Anakin Skywalker. For that reason, Darth Sidious never considered Vader good enough to surpass him, yet also never found anyone capable of surpassing even Vader. Anakin Skywalker, and likely Luke Skywalker, we're supposed to be the chosen ones with nigh unlimited potential, and though the potential of Darth Vader was still far more vast than that of any other known Jedi or Sith outside of Sidious himself, Darth Vader was not capable of ever regaining the potential he once held. Again, at least to my knowledge.

@sheluvprada Жыл бұрын

you just said a whole lotta nothing that is outdated and plain wrong. Please look into the canon relationship between Vader and Sidious.

@Land2.0 Жыл бұрын

How powerful was Vader? Powerful AF that’s all I need to know 😂

@ThatGuy76985 6 ай бұрын

Shoutout to Ahsoka and especially Cere for putting up the best fight against Vader in canon

@Hmoney42069 Жыл бұрын

Video idea It would be cool if you were to power scale Dr Manhattan from the watchmen

@bensmith8548 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure Vader scales above Yoda or Windu, maybe I'm still biased from Legends but it just seems like a reach to use those Tarkin quotes to make such a definitive statement. I'm not sure how Vapaad works in canon, but depending on legends interpretation, it's kinda a trump card against dark siders. And Yoda can fight against Sideous to a standstill - not sure I'd give that to Vader. Great video though, loved the breakdown overall and agree a lot. I might just not know enough of canon

@postsniper-7532 Жыл бұрын

Did dooku not use vapaad and anakin was the only one capable of beating dooku if anakin was not an emotional wreck obi wan wouldn’t have made it off mustafar

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Vapaad works completely differently in canon than Legends. Sidious gets much stronger over time in canon. He surpassed Yoda millions of times over by the OT. There are multiple statements that Vader > Yoda and Mace. I provided 3 in this video.

@achimpanzee9210 Жыл бұрын

Legends is even better for Vader. Vader is stated by palpatine to be able to kill him. This is the same palpatine who already had control of force storms which tear into hyperspace. This is 5D. Most I can say for mace is that he’s possibly universal+ using Dooku pulling power from across the universe. Legends Vader is just too strong for the clone wars Jedi

@calebejosesousarocha2921 Жыл бұрын

@@achimpanzee9210 Yeah, but RotJ-Luke was stated capable of kill both Vader and Palpatine in legends

@achimpanzee9210 Жыл бұрын

@@calebejosesousarocha2921 um ok? Luke is a monster lmfao

@jarmoliebrand2005 11 ай бұрын

35:26 Don’t forget Vader’s suit is a superconductor.

@damaniqphillip2756 Жыл бұрын

Awesome

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@daisydoodle5915 Жыл бұрын

You should do a Scarlet Witch update

@Jimmy-iy9pl Жыл бұрын

The Obi-Wan fights really complicate things because within the lore and meta of SW Anakin has always been the superior duelist and force user compared to his master. But the ROTS fight does make them seem perfectly on par with each other on both accounts. There's very little indication in the movie that Anakin has an overwhelming edge on Obi-Wan that Kenobi has to noticeably compensate for besides being put on the backfoot by Anakin for most of the fight. Even within just ROTS, the scaling isn't logical at all. Kenobi got completely throttled by Dooku but dark side boosted Anakin (the same one Obi-Wan was more or less stalemating) easily overpowered Dooku. Not as conclusive but still telling is the fact that both Anakin and Palpatine seemed to think they were relative to each other which aligns well with putting Anakin above your average Jedi Master but not quite at the absolute upper echelon of force user. To justify Obi-Wan's performance, you really do need to nerf Anakin power-wise. There's no way a fully submerged in the dark side Anakin wouldn't immediately stomp Obi-Wan. Anakin's inner conflict had to bring him down several notches, possibly even making him weaker than he would have normally been as a Jedi knight. And that makes sense given the fact that Anakin had just taken part in a genocide of sorts; a genocide that included many of his friends and coworkers.

@vincentsanabria Жыл бұрын

Anakin was also young and wasn’t fully untouched with his control of the force obi-wan was in it sense day one as to where Anakin was brought in at 13

@lieutenantaldotheapacherai1338 4 ай бұрын

So ur saying it doesn’t make sense but it does? Like u said Anakin was seriously conflicted, almost split in two. The real Anakin/his light side did not actually want to kill Obi-Wan and was making him hold back so much more than people realize or is even visible almost at all, and Vader/his dark side was so blindly drunk on bloodlust from the genocide you mentioned, pure arrogance and recklessness, and an extreme obsession with besting his master that left him mentally imbalanced and uncontrolled and stripped him of pretty much any strategy whatsoever. So not only was he severely conflicted, which in and of itself is a massive disadvantage, but on top of that, both sides/ends of him that he was conflicted between were extremely disadvantageous themselves. Taking all that into account, as well as what the above user said about Anakin being far less polished and practiced with the Force because of starting at a later age and just his many extreme traumas in general, it is actually a wonder he performed nearly as well as he did, imo.

@lieutenantaldotheapacherai1338 4 ай бұрын

What’s more is that all of this is so hard to account for or discern that even and especially Palpatine actually had no clue why and how Anakin didn’t really stand a chance in the state he was in. That is saying a lot because at the same time, Palpatine of all people understands the importance of ruthless singularity in one’s intentions and mental control toward achieving any ends, as opposed to being as conflicted as Anakin was, because of Palpatine’s extreme Dark Side immersion. However, Palpatine lacked empathy so greatly, if not completely, that he could not possibly have understood exactly how difficult the inner conflict and all its implications were for Anakin/Vader at that time, if he could have ever even wanted to imagine such a pitiful antithesis of the full fledged, pure Dark Side apprentice he had wished for so desperately. He could only merely grasp the vague notion that something was amiss with the Mustafar situation when he said “I sense Lord Vader is in danger”

@TheBombasticFatRat Жыл бұрын

I feel that people forget Plo Koon out-dueled Yoda

@daelinmiller4437 Жыл бұрын

Do a full potential Anikan video

@AdrianM0816 Жыл бұрын

Good video

@nurucdo Жыл бұрын

Could u make a video on luke he has gotten some amazing new feats in the recent novel

@TheFrostyguy101 Жыл бұрын

More star wars !!

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

@trasegorsuch5140 Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on Marvel’s Clandestines?

@moritz7797 Жыл бұрын

i find also the fact interesting that sidious kept Vader with his suit at ca. 80% of his power what if ca. 50% of the posible power Vaders could reach if he is completely restored(that could be posible with a clone of Vader so Vader can reattach his lost limbs from the clone and getting a new suit as the current one was desinged by darth sidious to limit him)

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

That is not true in canon

@CRISIS_COMICS Жыл бұрын

That’s cap

@alejandrotirado6224 Жыл бұрын

Vader has his potential the problem was mentally and that nerfed him

@kylesmithisawesome Жыл бұрын

I'd also like to point out that palps was drawing on the energy of the planet of exogol while facing Vader. Additionally, while Vader had a tiny but of more raw power than palps, palpatine was far more experienced.

@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын

@@kylesmithisawesome Vader could also draw on that power. It's a dark side nexus that amps any Dark Side user.

@MorphousInfinity Жыл бұрын

Wow, the Nerd Force is strong with this one.

@jeebeeheebee Жыл бұрын

This dude really felt like he had to tell us what "prime" meant in context and then said unmerciless lol

@bdhhsgbyddhggg Жыл бұрын

So essentially, Darth Vader solos the DCEU Justice league I’m scared now

@sobekapep8320 Жыл бұрын

If you are free to do so, can you source the calcs you used in this? Especially the 760 teraton one. I am planning on doing a calc tread on SW soon and it could most definitely be useful for me. Also, nice video. Though, NGL, you really highballed SW characters at some points.

@CRISIS_COMICS Жыл бұрын

It’s consistent…not a highball. Idk y ppl don’t want Star Wars to be strong. Do y’all want to run Yoda’s fade irl or something?

@sobekapep8320 Жыл бұрын

@@CRISIS_COMICS First off, no, no, it really isn't...at all. Aside from some valuage statements, there is nothing supporting MFTL reflex Star Wars with FTL reflex fodder and so far, the best one can scale Vader without any amps like on Mortis or the Force Engine is to his Mustafar Earthquake and Storm feat, that one isn't even debatle, you just can't scale any force user to the Death Star aside from absolute god tiers, like the Ones. The biggest reason being they wouldn't have needed it otherwise, something everyone should be able to logic. If you use Mortis Anakin or Force Engine Vader however, he is Galaxy to Universal, which are pretty solid. Which, mind you, is something I wouldn't have said if I didn't want Star Wars to be strong. My concern is logic, in every single power scaling for anything. Not "wanting someone to be strong or weak." That's fanbratism, not power scaling. Also, my main cornern are the calcs, so I don't see why are you butting in.

@StarWarsNegsVerses Жыл бұрын

@@sobekapep8320 um fyi vader casually reacts to blaster bolts and iirc he even reacted to hyperspace hich allows mFTL++++++ speed and you're also downplaying vader and the ones

@StarWarsNegsVerses Жыл бұрын

@@CRISIS_COMICS ikr people don't think star wars is that strong when it is

@sobekapep8320 Жыл бұрын

@@StarWarsNegsVerses Blaster bolts have calculated speeds around hypersonic range, that's not what makes SW characters extremely fast. It's reacting to force lightning and a few instances of reacting to real, light-based lasers that do. Also, hyperspace speed feats are rather wonky TBH. Even normal people can manuver their space craft in those and in SW bullets are used, rarely, but still and are plenty effective. At least Galaxy, likely Universal, is lowballing? Are you *Beep*ing kidding me?