Habit produces disorder | J. Krishnamurti

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Habit produces disorder | J. Krishnamurti
Extract from the fifth public talk in Saanen, 1978.
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@shaktikumarlyrics Жыл бұрын

Life speaking to us...

@patplo2902 Жыл бұрын

Of course

@lordhorrorshow Жыл бұрын

sthuloser...

@Andrew-dg7qm 9 ай бұрын

It’s simple. Habits make you become unconscious, like an automaton. If you create a good habit, you do it with intention. And the motive behind that intention is to make it more automatic. But if you lose the awareness of why you’re repeating that routine or habit, then it becomes destructive. The order has turned into a disorder. And what’s worse, you’re not even aware of it. With bad habits, it’s even worse. Not just because of the damage that they cause, but because you (probably) didn’t enter into it consciously. Wow, these comments. Lots of bots, or what? To be concise, wake up. Or just do it. Or both, I’d say both. I like both

@em945 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, this excerpt has been so practical and insightful for me. Appreciate.

@rotgutthebloated4730 Жыл бұрын

Its like, all his videos and all videos from other spiritual masters is pointing that we should be aware, consciouss, all the time.

@slavomirakrasna2111 Жыл бұрын

Not those by Krishnamurti guys. They both kept repeating one message only- duck the lie🖤

@Love_DivineAnn Жыл бұрын

So powerful knowledge and lesson to be learn and at the same time to unlearn all that we learn here on earth 🌎 expanding of the thoughts am grateful 🙏 to inner child guiding me remove all information that was causing problems within 🙂 😊

@kamaurahamukti5919 Жыл бұрын

BRILLIANT 🙏🏽✨

@jittythomas3130 11 ай бұрын

All what JK says here comes naturally to many a successful. Success is rather far away but perseverance brings us closer. It is rather uncomfortable but the good done is more pertinent to oneself than to anyone else. Life is wonderful! The mountains the valleys the flowers the blue sky the rain have you ever seen the rain and so on. All of it is valid.

@KS-zu6ps 2 ай бұрын

Yes, Sir.

@udaybhaskar448 Жыл бұрын

Very grateful for the insight...immense clarity of exposition...as always...

@078OG Жыл бұрын

Jiddu my dear friend

@alangerhardt1635 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful!!

@njimyasmine3836 Жыл бұрын

I like the title so far

@shiva-om-shiva-om Жыл бұрын

Yes. Sounds good! 😃

@carniamellato4021 Жыл бұрын

Yes I noted.

@BamBhole1 Жыл бұрын

👌🙋‍♂️🌹

@ramongomez8849 Жыл бұрын

🙏🏻

@Brahma.369 Жыл бұрын

We are already it .. we just need to realise it and be it ...

@katehiggins9940 Жыл бұрын

@@Boogersandunicorns76 love…….or the unnameable, ungraspable no thing which appears as some thing.

@jarcau_vegan Жыл бұрын

@@Boogersandunicorns76 Not 'this', not 'that'. Neti neti. Not even 'it'.

@KS-zu6ps 2 ай бұрын

@@jarcau_vegan Did you learn that from the Hare Krishna?

@terrytahutu1343 Жыл бұрын

Religion of all kinds In slaves humanity through thoughts, education is trapping every mind, to be aware, off who is living your life, thank you

@givemorephilosophy Жыл бұрын

Amazing to know what we think or what we perceive or what we believe or what we understand or what we experience is what we are. It is pretty simple once we know the Soul and God and how they operate and work 🙏🙏🙏 Now that i can explain both know both experience both looks so simple 🙏🙂

@slavomirakrasna2111 Жыл бұрын

Ok, one more time Thought many got over such a wonder in the childhood, once they understood that they can actually see, hear, smell, feel, taste humans🙄

@AnthonyHoward-ru8su 8 ай бұрын

It makes sense that order comes through an understanding of disorder

@Inquiring_Together Жыл бұрын

Yes, the urgency, of a loving a small helpless child and also of having the misery of war end. The simpleness of a peaceful Friday night has more weight to it, thats for sure.

@chandanapathirage206 Жыл бұрын

Root of disorder is order..

@grenciamars4876 Жыл бұрын

I definitely caution anyone using psychedelics... this video will take you to a place you may be unwilling to go

@thegreatestofthemall9942 Жыл бұрын

That’s my exact destination

@SpotlessWanderer 4 ай бұрын

Me too, did you get to sense that there may be an installed idea on ourselves to delegate our spiritual selves, awareness, true selves to an outside source (psychodelics)? So we may be restraining ourselves on everyday life to not being on our "full capacity"?

@ianmiller5126 Жыл бұрын

The awareness became attached to form and thought

@sheesh236 Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@davidlabarca Жыл бұрын

Limit a population with arbitrary borders… Creates a weapon industry client.

@kamalhalder4106 Жыл бұрын

human is he who dissolved that centre.

@Cecil_Augus Жыл бұрын

for me the definition of miracle is Jiddu because how? it's so rare, so precious and so hard

@harisdiz.5817 Жыл бұрын

I'm inclined to say that there's a difference between habit and discipline.

@Cecil_Augus Жыл бұрын

Discipline is the conditioning of the body through habit and an attempt to control oneself's desires as I see it. Can you point something different than this?

@srinivasarao6171 Жыл бұрын

@@Cecil_Augus Habit is repetitive, mechanical. To a certain extent, in the things related to physical, there is a need for a routine, may be. But psychologically speaking, what is the necessity of a repetitive attitude? Discipline means learning. Not from a master, not joining a monastery. A learning in which all accumulations of the past ceases to exist. It is these accumulations which prevent one looking at things afresh and anew. When one is learning a new language, there physically, accumulation is necessary. All psychological accumulations in relationship is very destructive --- to see this destructive nature of psychological accumulation is learning. To learn all this, there is no need for a teacher; oneself is one's own teacher and the taught.

@nickidaisydandelion4044 Жыл бұрын

Habit is actually laziness and therefore not disciplined at all.

@amschelco.1434 Жыл бұрын

@@srinivasarao6171 your excuse sir maam.. id like to ask can a good habit still produces disorder?

@trendings8655 Жыл бұрын

Decipline is just for 6 month after that it becomes a habbit

@albertozevi2139 Жыл бұрын

00:00 guardare con cura/attenzione

@Enavor Жыл бұрын

Habit produces disorder, but trying to stop or prevent that habit is further habit, therefore further disorder. Can one just observe that one is constantly in habit, constantly mechanical. In that realization, that one is constantly habitual, there is order. Because order is choiceless.

@bh_486 Жыл бұрын

Not quite. It is discovering the capacity to observe without censorship that brings order. Choiceless awareness is another way of saying that YOU (the ego or the self), stop judging or condemning or justifying your behaviour. It is when we constantly control ourselves that life becomes chaotic, because we are preventing the small and hidden clues coming into view. BUT not controlling ourselves does not mean 'anything goes'. On the contrary. Observation without the ego interfering is actually highly disciplined. But it is a different kind of discipline. It is this discipline that brings Order. The order comes because you are no longer wondering if you are right or wrong, you are not dithering. Your mind goes through a constant process of 'defragmentation'. New insights and observations require the old insights (and habits) to be shunted around and maybe deleted (continuing with the computer metaphor). This brings order to your internal world and also to your external world. You start to tidy up your space, you look again at the projects you have never completed, either abandon them or finish them. You take care of yourself. This is order.

@nickel0eye Жыл бұрын

@@bh_486 this reads like you are using experience as a pointer... still moving from a center, that you may be separating from another center, through analysis... I could be wrong though! Truth is a pathless land:)

@Enavor Жыл бұрын

@@bh_486 I see. It's a difficult thing to learn these teachings. I think what is interesting with K's talks is when I'm listening to them, I'm using my intelligence (which discerns) and from that discernment creating conclusions which is exactly the cause of disorder. Even my response to you now is disorder it seems because I'm responding to you only because I'm working with past knowledge to do so. It's like that phrase: "If you see a buddha on the road, kill him". It doesn't mean literally kill him, what it means is that to see the truth, you have to see past the conditioning and all conditioning is caused by the intellect itself. When the intellect somehow matures, and comes to the realization that its always discerning, causing choice, which is disorder, that very realization brings order. Like a "choiceless awareness". I thought I was on a path, but I duped myself, I was here the entire time and my intellect, which is time dependent, causes the illusion of choice. However the actions I do now (no matter how illusory) have a direct impact on the future forms you'll take and those future forms will see reality in a different way as the human form taken now - which was caused by millions of years of actions. It's too hard for me to explain succinctly, but that's the best attempt I can do.

@Enavor Жыл бұрын

@@nickel0eye but the answer is proof that there is just habit, being mechanical, and in that proof there is order. It's beautiful! There is no requirement to do anything other than observation of this - including my answer which is also mechanical (just be aware of it).

@bh_486 Жыл бұрын

@@Enavor It certainly is the most difficult thing to do. I will say this - the reason it is difficult is that it requires a kind of 'magic' - and this phenomenon is not present in our everyday life. If you do 'catch it', then it is both highly reasonable but peculiarly magic.

@pritamdas3943 Жыл бұрын

is the mind inside the brain ?

@josephsabol9229 Жыл бұрын

I love jiddu as a teacher... he's incredible

@richardhorvatichfittrader Жыл бұрын

I think routine is useful but we need to do things spontaneously, throw new experiences In between. Krishnamurti did yoga for years, that's a habit. He has been a public figure and speaker, this implies routine. But we can't just be rigidly involved in habit without doing other things too. We need to dance, hike, wonder, play. But without a habit or routine, how do we make progress anywhere? How do we become skilled?

@pooscifer 6 ай бұрын

Why does it matter to be skilled? Also, what suggests skill is a matter of setting an intention (to repeat a habit) over and over again? Couldn't we develop a skill without relying on repetitive thought patterns/intentions?

@israelrabbit1943 Жыл бұрын

maybe he is mistaken the habit with the identity of the self

@rheinwelle925 Жыл бұрын

Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise, so don't kid yourself or allow "your" thought to make you seem illiterate, that he could be mistaken, and that your not.