Kill Team Shadowvaults Kasrkin Guide

Kill Team Shadowvaults Kasrkin Guide - Astra Militarum

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Warhammer 40k Shadowvaults drops and gives us the first of the new astra militarum imperial guard line with the KASRKIN. And here is my faction guide breakdown! Big thanks to GW for sending me this review copy!
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0:00 Intro
5:05 Overall Thoughts
8:09 Operatives
10:22 Ability
13:51 TacOps
19:03 Ploys
25:05 Datasheets
36:08 Equipment
39:40 Wrap Up
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@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

Thanks to GW for sending me Shadowvaults early! Patreons get access to 2 long form battle reports and a bunch of other stuff straight away. Everyone else will have to wait a while for edits! Default Datacards: ko-fi.com/dovahkruz My Patreon: www.patreon.com/GlassHalfDead My Merch: www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/110986662

@Tycho_Kai Жыл бұрын

I am fairly sure I am not hearing things, but it definitely sounded like you said "hot shot valley girl" XD

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

@@Tycho_Kai I even wrote it xD

@Turk3YbAstEr Жыл бұрын

Scions don't just hit on 3+, they can pretty easily get reroll 1s. So scions will just be more consistent while Kasrkins always get at least one hit (until they run out of elite points, then they're just worse guardsmen)

@XDfunnyguy Жыл бұрын

I like that the decoy and stun grenades instead of getting indirect, "go off" at a point within 6" very cool and how frags probably should have been from the start

@templargfx Жыл бұрын

The best thing from a beginner perspective with these guys is that even if the new player rolls bad, elite is going to minimise the impact that has, so they are less likely to lose their first game to dice rolls

@Turk3YbAstEr Жыл бұрын

"Hot shot valley girl" lmao

@ElijahDarts Жыл бұрын

See you talk about hooking a piece of hard candy out of his belt pouch as if that isn't a thing medics do, but Fetanyl lollipops are a key component of combat medic gear.

@Rebelcommander6 6 ай бұрын

I'm getting some of these fellas painted up as the Auric Auxilia. Hearing they're good for beginners is great stuff!

@earnestwanderer2471 Жыл бұрын

The cheaper fall back is a little situational, BUT.... If someone charges your Melta Gunner, just to tie it up, and prevent it from shooting, you can use this plot, back up out of engagement, and obliterate the enemy. Especially with elite points.

@dovahkruz Жыл бұрын

Excellent review! and thanks for the mention :D

@anarcho-angron6297 Жыл бұрын

4+ is scandalous!!

@wesszmaglik4697 Жыл бұрын

Valley Girls every time

@lokepoke1337 Жыл бұрын

Great guide nice listing of the good and bad things!

@wesszmaglik4697 Жыл бұрын

Boom!!!! Cant wait for this one

@reubenmccallum3350 Жыл бұрын

It's worth noting that +1 BS on a dice of your choice is a lot different than one attack dice being +1 BS, because you get to see which dice will need it and add accordingly. Generally, on a 4 dice attack, you're not likely to have multiple 3's so things like 2's would be a miss anyway and 4's are hits whether you have a BS of 3 or 4. So I think it will be very hard to assess the value of Elite from what it seems like at a casual glance, especially with crit interactions as well. Not saying a 3+ isn't most likely better most of the time, but the ability to swing key attacks in your favour will probably end up feeling more impactful than it seems when looked at on paper.

@philippesimpson Жыл бұрын

The return of the multiple hellos! 🥳

@0ohmit0 Жыл бұрын

There might be a mistake with the Sergeant's gun butt, 4/6 Damage vs everyone else's gun butt for 2/3 Damage. Unless that's just how he rolls, the +1 Damage to gun butts might be worth it then.

@anarcho-angron6297 Жыл бұрын

Make this team 3+ to hit and its a cool team, with 4+ it just feels wrong

@Raptor0256 4 ай бұрын

i dont know why they changed the recon trooper auspex to ignores obscuring ( i get it works better on new bheta decima terrain) as now neither of the strat/tac ploys work with it. also worth noting is the reconnoitre ability only lets you use a recon dash, so im probably dropping this guy for a regular trooper to get more use from elite points

@markzeman4219 Жыл бұрын

A second Recon option means the free Dash, it's the same as the Recon Drone. Not any Scouting option, but specifically that one. But yeah, the ploys aren't super hype, and 4+ BS with Hot-Shots is kinda meh. But still, a simple team that just plays objectives well is nice.

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

Ooh okay yes, good catch!

@manofaction1807 Жыл бұрын

A followup question on the Necrons- can you mix and match the kill team members from other kill teams?

@johnnnysilverhand9819 Жыл бұрын

I predict that GW will either nerf Compendium Scions to hit on 4s, or buff Kasrkins to hit on 3s (with sarge hitting on 2s), if this becomes an issue. Buff is more likely if GW sees how many people use their new Kasrkin models as Scion proxies in tournaments

@GundamReviver Жыл бұрын

There is no need at all to nerf scions from a LOT of playing with them, but yes kasrkin need to hit on 3's

@tylorjohnsman6197 Жыл бұрын

If they do this the Kasrkins will benefit to the point of being one of the strongest teams in the game with their elite points. As it stands they are not just middle of the pack, they're pretty good in the right hands. It's the same treatment scions got right away (boring, bad, unplayable) but they're easily one of the best compendium teams that still holds their own against bespoke.

@GundamReviver Жыл бұрын

@@tylorjohnsman6197 agreed about scions, but they are not TOO strong in any sort of way. (I play them all the time) and honestly elite points aren't that good, the scions re roll 1 is more Powerfull if you ask me. Especially since elite points will run out FAST. Especially at 4+ line halfway through turn 1 fast

@DestructoDino Жыл бұрын

Why does the sergeant’s gun butt do more damage than his chainsword??

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

That's because I let the artist who designed the datacards (very cool looking datacards!) write the words, and then I didn't proof check everything (so yes, this is entirely my fault!). Same issues with the Hierotek Circle. My mistake and my apologies. There are several mistakes across all the datacards. Make sure to double check alongside Wahapedia when watching the video!

@fantumfreek 7 ай бұрын

I know this was a year ago, but are the data cards still available?

@GlassHalfDead 7 ай бұрын

If I made them, then I would have put them up for my Patrons at the $10 tier, yes! (I went and double checked. Yes, they'er available!)

@DarrinSK Жыл бұрын

Did fusilade just get useful? It says she can do it on only one dye on one attack and fusillade lets you split your dice into multiple attacks. So you could fish for crits on two different attacks on two different guys for AP1

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

That's actually a good spot there! I mean it's still not good, but almost the most useful it's ever been xD

@DarrinSK Жыл бұрын

@@GlassHalfDead yea.... i mostly just want a reason to bring a volley gun over something else. ha. fusillade should give you +1 to your dice available when splitting attacks. I think that would just fix it immediately

@jonbuq2418 Жыл бұрын

I already play Scions and I don't know that their extra tricks/operatives/equipment are worth losing 1 BS and 1 Wound each, Infiltration archetype, Guardsman Orders/Accomplished Leader. Is this the first bespoke team that's not clearly better than the Compendium version?

@paladinpariah325 Жыл бұрын

Please more video of miniatures in the tunnels. The beginning of this video was utterly stunning. I abhor the new Kill Team, but would absolutely enjoy a full length video like the beginning of this one.

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

Miniatures in tunnels can be the name of my new channel. My slow conversion to being purely a hobby channel!

@JozzboGaming Жыл бұрын

Space Marines hit on 3+, I think it's just the scions being broken than the Kasrkin being underpowered. The Elite points gives more use and play than just hitting on 3+, you can use the points on grenades, heavy weapons, plasma etc so I think is just as useful really.

@templargfx Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the excessive 'no cover' rule access is to offset the 4+ BS? Its slightly harder to hit but at least they dont get auto saves when you do :P

@dennisk.5919 Жыл бұрын

Why are there two Plasma guns on the spures when you can only use one?? Is it for the 40k players?

@GundamReviver Жыл бұрын

Yes

@pqfire0950 Жыл бұрын

What are the top teams right now??

@FlameThrowerDuck Жыл бұрын

Honestly these rules are kind of disappointing to me, it almost seems like the compendium scion team is more fun. Hitting on 4s is a huge downer. My lovely Kasrkin deserve better😭

@johnnnysilverhand9819 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, probably run them as a 10-man Scion team. All the gun options are available, and most the specialists look like normal troopers anyway. Hit on 3s, with guardsmen order for take aim to reroll 1s, and comms can still give APL twice, free command point use from tempestor. Demo kasrkin can proxy for the krak grenade scion, and put the frag on the frag arm model. I expect most people will use this box set to proxy for Scion

@FlameThrowerDuck Жыл бұрын

@@johnnnysilverhand9819 yeah plus the medic for 3eq isn’t bad at all, it’s almost the same as the medic in this team.

@DarrinSK Жыл бұрын

4+ is a huge disappointment

@steelowen Жыл бұрын

I didn't think it ever made sense for guard, even scions to hit 3s like a space marine? Obviously there is no removing the scion team but I always thought it was wierd that they have the same bs as a marine. I personally think the rules seem balanced, if scion compendium didn't exist but I don't think they should ever be hitting on 3s anyway.

@wingonn5153 Жыл бұрын

@@steelowen Scions are equipped with Omni-shield helmets that has multi-spectral occulum allowing them to see in low-light and occluded conditions. I'm guessing that's why they have BS 3+

@johnnnysilverhand9819 Жыл бұрын

Brother Glass, what size bases are the new kasrkins on? Are they 28.5mm or 25mm? Btw, nice shave, per Cadian military regulations infantrymen’s primer subsection 12345z

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

Kasrkin are 28s! By my recollection this wasn't even shaved! Just a run over with the clippers!

@ratman505 Жыл бұрын

The question we all ask ourselves now: Does the Proximity rule make the CAT viable?

@manofaction1807 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on coining the new phrase. It sure is suitable.

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

It's been a while, which phrase did I coin here? xD

@manofaction1807 Жыл бұрын

@@GlassHalfDead Hot Shot Valley Girls. I'm going to use this from now on in describing the Stormtroopers/Kasrkrins.

@Zibit21 Жыл бұрын

Lots of typos on the cards. Like "substracting" on grenades 🙄

@GlassHalfDead Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I noticed them, and I cringed at every one :/

@GundamReviver Жыл бұрын

Cool team, love how you painted yours glas... But GW can't Into math and I think their rules are bad at a 4+ to hit. Since I already was running my old kasrkin as scions, I think I'll just keep doing that since I think these dudes are just flat worse. (now if P1 stacks onto another for p2, then I see these dudes working. Since then the hsvg would suddenly be really dangerous, and these dudes would play like wyrmblade with few really dangerous units, and the rest supporting them)

@alanchapman2589 Жыл бұрын

Kasrkin are the best of the best Cadian troops which does say a lot, but sisters of battle are bred for combat and virtual brainwashed as are I believe true scions. So I do think there is a difference.

@FlameThrowerDuck Жыл бұрын

Kasrkin are said to be on par with scions and in turn scions are from the same schools as the sisters so they’re closer than you would think. The added experience would likely put the Kasrkin over the edge

@alanchapman2589 Жыл бұрын

@@FlameThrowerDuck all I know is kasrkin are shock troopers who get selected for higher training. And scions are indoctrinated from childhood and are killed even just for having a bad dream. So I think the training methods are different. Possibly resulting in kasrkin being more normal human than sisters and scions.

@majortom7186 Жыл бұрын

Aren’t the Kasrkin just the Cadian equivalent of Vet guard, but worse obviously because Cadians. This seems lore appropriate. 😇

@craiglawrence5978 Жыл бұрын

Nah, Kasrkins are the equivalent of Scions; vet guard are the equivalent of veteran guardsmen. Scions/Kasrkin are dedicated special forces, trained from birth in the case of scions, or trained from the ranks of the most experienced veteran guardsmen of Cadia in the case of Kasrkin. Meanwhile, vet guard are “just” experienced guardsmen

@FlameThrowerDuck Жыл бұрын

Kasrkin are the ultra badasses of the guard, the kreig equivalent would be their grenediers. So this is not really lore appropriate imo. No stormtrooper type unit should shoot on the same level as a guardsman. This team seems like a direct downgrade from the compendium scions in most regards

@Adventurerblitz Жыл бұрын

Historically kasrkins are just the veteran guardsmen profile which chose to upgrade to carapace armor so theyre the same thing as vet guard yes.

@dimadobrik4516 5 ай бұрын

@@Adventurerblitzyou're saying the carapace is all the difference there is?

@Adventurerblitz 5 ай бұрын

@@dimadobrik4516 Kasrkin are just basic ig veterans and not trained from birth types like scions, so yeah they are just veteran guard with carapace and hotshots.