Billy as #1 is insane

hag in d tier is absolutely criminal, hag's snowball potential can easily change the tide of a game in a matter of seconds. i'd place her in c tier personally

holy shit i leave for a year and billy is S tier again, is this 2018??

If you're willing, putting together some showcases with Killer Mains to reflect on some of the hot topic tier list picks would make great content! Appreciate all the passion you put into this 👍

About Sadako, as someone whos put a TON of hours into her since her release, the thing that kills survivors the most is underestimating her. Not respecting a single part of her kit is deadly. Not respecting her invis during chase means you either get hit or have to throw the pallets earlier than you would've wanted to, so thats one more resource gone. And even then, some downed pallets can still be played with her invis. Being able to igore pallet stuns also helps with efficiency, being able to break pallets immediately. Not respecting her stealth means easy hits of course. Not respecting her map pressure means you can get caught in a bad position with no resources to use. And not respecting condemn means an early kill. She also straight up doesn't care about body blocking. M2 killers can get around it sometimes and all m1 killers have to deal with it always, but not her. Between that and condemn, if she wants someone dead, theres little a survivor team can do about it. As for her addons, I'll say, reiko's watch is good would love to see it basekit, but Old newspaper and bloody fingernail are my go to. Reiko's watch is useful, but ive found that its applications are not as wide as id like. Old newspaper's increased post manifestation invis can achieve a similar effect to reiko's watch in most scenarios, a hit or a down pallet, but has the lethality of immediately being able to attack that reiko's watch doesn't since youre manifested when using old bewspaper. And since reiko's watch is dropped, i run bloody finger nail, which gives the irreplaceable effects of being able to scout the map easier and also catch up to running survivors. All that veing said, while I wouldn't say she's low C, personally, but i can see C Tier. A good cooordinated team that knows how to counter her and can reset efficiently will leave her feeling pretty weak, ngl. However, she puts survivor in positions to make mistakes more than most killers, And as a hit and run killer who spreads damage, CoH still hurts her HARD.

I agree with the pinhead placement, but you really missed out on one thing. The best pinhead players don’t use the box as passive slowdown, they know the spawns and actively hunt it down and protect it, keeping chain hunt going for essentially the whole game if they’re good/lucky enough.

I'm going to get you, Tofu.

Bro cooking insane 💀 He thinks deathslinger and trickster are higher than huntress! Bruh.

Nah putting hag in last is wild, She is genuinely a b-a tier

I am currently top 30 trapper in the entire world. And I played against Elysium yesterday they absolutely made me feel like a baby killer and I still have a lot to learn. They were very humble about destroying me and I have a lot of respect for them.

I stopped taking this seriously the moment you said Hag is the worst killer, when she doesn’t rely on add ons and can lock down a 3 gen fairly easily

I love, LOVE, that you put Billy at the top. I honestly don't know if he's better than Nurse or not, but what I do know is that he deserves it. Billy more than anyone deserves to be the best. After always being one of the most loved killers from the comm, then his unjustified nerf, and ultimate comeback; Billy of the Hills deserves more than anyone to be #1. Hillious Billious is the fucking GOAT!

by your logic oni should be much lower as he requires multiple survivor mess ups to get his power

I think Deathslinger’s placement is accurate. I’ve always considered him on the border of low A tier and High B Tier. I think your analysis was spot on, it’s what I love about maining him. It’s a high risk, high reward gameplay.

100% agreed on Skull Merchant. She's hilariously easy to win against but SoloQ teammates keep recklessly running into her drones outside of chase giving her so many free injures and downs

The number of people who know how to properly counter twins is about the same as the number of people who actually play twins: 5

I relly disagree with pig placement as pig main I am pretty sure it is D tier Most of my games trying to go for dash hits and only 2 maps (which by the way the best maps for her without dash) U can consider good for it, and it is RPD and Midwich And one important thing u must go for 2 of the 3 dash addons to make it useful a little With the big nerf of her slow down and useless stealth there is no way a good pig could win against good survivors without tunneling

I respect your takes, OhTofu! Thanks for explaining your thoughts so well.

I genuinely don't understand how it can be justified that the ONE ranged killer that is forced to M1 to achieve downs, has to spend extra valuable time reeling in survivors before actually dealing damage, and only has a max range on their power of 18 meters is better than the other two ranged killers. Sure, slinger being able to hit you through some little crack in the wall is absolutely insane but if he can't manage to get a hit after due to chain breaking he loses all reward for the amazing shot (unless you were healthy, but you wont go down if injured). A huntress hits you with a hatchet and you lose a health state, a slinger hits you with a shot and you get deep wounded, if you're already deep wounded and he can't M1 you in time you wont go down. The best huntress players are hitting people from the other end of the universe with a simultaneous double hatchet (and can have pressure on multiple gens at different sections of the map at the same time) but the best deathslingers still have to be within terror radius and even if insane in chase will only be pressuring the one survivor they are chasing. Idk maybe I'm crazy but I really don't understand how the objectively worse one is placed higher. Not saying he's bad by any means, good slingers are scary, but I don't think it makes sense to say he has more potential than huntress.

I think knight needs the pinhead or nurse targeting, and the guard route is determined automatically between you and that point, so you aren't stunned.

despite some goofy placements (Hag, Huntress mostly) it's always nice to hear different opinons. do a tierlist on how much fun you have w killers, Tofu. we know we know, Hag's gonna be bottom tier yet again lol no idea if you've done such before, but it's always fun to hear how favorite creators rank their enjoyment at any given time.

is there a tier list of stupidest decisions made by BHVR?

The only WEIRD placement for me here was PH, I honestly don't see him above Xenomorph, for example

I'm a P100 Huntress main with over 2500+ hours on her and I couldn't agree more about huntress being B tier. GOOD survivors will make your life hard with her for sure, using high walls to their expense, certain trees/bush tiles on some maps, and some of the indoor maps are just hell for her due to survs passing through corners every chance they get (like in lerys) you don't even have time to raise a hatchet at that point. 7 hatchets is nothing when survs are baiting you at those 50/50 spots and are very aware of their surroundings. She's very strong but really good survivors will bait well and be aware.

You play Oni because he’s fun, I main him because I enjoy being a rage-driven demon who can violently slam survivor’s heads in the dirt with a club. And as an added bonus I have anger management issues irl. We are not the same.

Yay!! Ty for a great video! This helped me get through my work day ☺️

I rarely watch videos over an hour on KZfaq but this was fun to watch because ohtofu's take , where else are you gonna get hag in last place lol but he makes a good point

WE LOVE OHTOFU WOOOOOO

Vecna seems a bit understated. If you're a Vecna with your spells up, and you reach a pallet, you have four options. Keep going/swing through, Mage Hand, Flight of the Damned, and Fly (ideally with Potion of Speed). The counters to this are, respectively, drop pallet, keep running, crouch, and either not drop the pallet or stay at the dropped pallet. Dropping the pallet will stun the Killer if they're too close, but if they read you're going to do that right Mage Hand will leave you animation-locked. Throwing it early means he can Fly over it, and if you've started running to make distance with the dropped pallet they're probably gonna catch up. The way to counter the Fly is to stay at the pallet to vault it as he descends, but if you've started running away you might not get it before he regains collision and bodyblocks the pallet. Meanwhile, if you're not crouching and the Vecna distances it right, you're gonna get smacked by the FotD insta-tech. If you think it's coming and crouch, though, you'll lose a lot of distance if you're wrong. Also, if the loop is short enough that Fly-blocking it doesn't really matter, it's also probably short enough to be able to get a mid-animation FotD hit and enough that you can pause the vault with Mage Hand. Notably, if the survivor is mid-animation when Mage Hand is used it'll vacuum them to whichever side of the pallet is closer. Lastly, it's entirely possible to fake a power. Right now, we're in the phase where most survivors know how to handle Mage Hand if there's a decent distance between you and them. Mage Hand makes the pallet glow when you're targeting it, and a lot of players will see that and assume you're going to block/raise it and keep going. I just highlight the pallet once or twice and odds are good as not that they'll greed it and get hit without even needing to put my power on cooldown. Similarly, since the different spells all put him in 'primed' animations, a Survivor might try to crouch when FotD looks like it's about to be put on top of them. Again, faking it and making them crouch loses them a lot of distance. He's not an S-tier Killer. But I'd make a decent argument for being A-tier according to this criteria, because a Vecna that knows what they're doing introduces far more complex mindgames that are easy to mess up. That is just my opinion though, and what I've seen in my experience from playing and viewing people. Basically nothing guarantees a hit just for doing it; even shooting at a slightly elevated position with FotD can still allow the survivors to try and get between the gaps of the skeletons. But he can play 'I know you know I know you know' like (k)no(w)body's business.

This list is cooked. Huntress, DS and Vecna in B is crazy

Dredge in d tier is crazy

Nice video! I really wish this game was balanced around average skill and not the bottom quintile of players, so many characters on this list are so fun when you're playing against noobs, but the moment there's a competent survivor it's game over for you D:

Tofu, you KNOW deep down that ghostface is B tier if the ghosty player good at stalking and ambushing. Listen to your heart next time and give ghosty the B tier spot he deserves! 🙌

Yup, that's where Billy goes. That Overcharge catapulted him into the stratosphere

I would love to see a Billy vs Nurse showcase. I also believe that the #1 spot belongs to him.

Ghostface when mmr was more strict became unplayable for me. I used to main him religiously but there was always one survivor taking me out of my ability all game rendering me absolutely useless. I love his buffs, but his biggest problem is how easily you can make him an m1 killer with no power.

Bro is the yapatron

Bro somehow brunt the fire he was trying to cook with

My main problems with current onryo is #1 that she has no counter to tapes unlike og sadako with passive condemn while survivors are carrying tapes and previous sadako who broke survivors tapes and gave them two stacks of condemned if she hit them, and #2 current sadako’s power HEAVILY encourages her to slug, as hooking only locks in 3 stacks if they have 3 stacks encouraging you to slug survivors until you’re sure they have 3 stacks. So imo I’d either make it so hitting a survivor with a tape gives them one stack of condemned and breaks their tape or make it so hooking survivors with tapes gives the survivor a stack of condemn and locks in an extra stack of condemn. But that’s just my opinion

I guess everyone has their own tier list and that’s why we love the game. Thanks for sharing your thoughts

2hr video, and a meta tier list video. My god, we are eating well today!

I luv seeing other players opinions on killers. I find this fascinating 👌

Sadako is definitely B tier, you can prevent people from getting rid of their condemn and easily apply 2 or 3 stacks on them and hook them to lock their condemn, while also applying stacks to anyone near an active tv, you are inmune to stuns and can trick people into dropping pallets very easily or get an easy hit if they don't, you are inmune to bodyblocks which is perfect when you are going for someone who's close to being condemned, you severely punish anyone who thinks they can afford to ignore 2 or 3 stacks while doing a gen, usually the first ones to die are the ones rushing gens, you have massive map pressure that you should always use in order to turn off tvs yourself, since that cooldown is way shorter and prevents people from getting rid of condemn, honestly once you have 1 or 2 hooks on people with 2 or 3 condemn stacks the game starts going in your favor consistently because they can afford less and less time to repairs or healing, since you can easily get them close to condemn with a few teleports, also if you go against a team where at least 1 survivor doesn't understand how she works the whole team gets screwed which is like 99% of public matches

Who is the “Kurt” pinhead. I wanna follow him 😢

Give tier 1 myers wallhacks for 10 seconds at the beg of a game. Would make him viable against decent teams and its such a tiny change. Could call the ability myers huntdown or something generic. It def fits his lore too since he seems to have a 6th sense about where his prey are throughout the movie.

As a dredge main, i can say hes one of the most difficult killers to play but when you master him, he has the potential to be high B to very low A tier. His remnant can turn most strong loops into 50/50s and nightfall is an underrated power.

I really Respect the List and like some of the Placements a lot but as a P100 Legion Main i would have put them infront of Freddy or Trapper because if we speak about the good Surivors on Coms and everything you will almost never catch them in a bad spot.

dredge below legion just about gave me a brain aneurysm. while i’d tend to agree gregg’s locker teleport can feel a little underwhelming outside nightfall/without boat key (and his absolute joke of a stealth power), his remnant is consistently the best part of his kit and one of my favorite chase powers in dbd. smart remnant placement can completely stuff the “Hold W” counterplay at most loops, and he’s the only killer since doctor that has the ability to just absolutely nullify shack. with all that being said, i’d still consider him to he squarely around mid-B tier, but he’s MY B-TIER KILLER, DAMMIT!

I disagree on Hag. I've gone 19 for 20 games with a mediocre build. My games are long and it does come down to a war of attrition, but so long as youve kept pressure on the closest gens, trap hooked survivors to catch someone rescuing, play smart, and run #1 rusty shackles, #2 "dried cicada or mint rag", and mori for offering and you can pretty much pressure a select few gens till they mess up.

The only thing I have to say is that hag is very perk dependent. Good players who know how to play against hag is reslly hard, but i really think all it takes is 1 mistake. Things like stfbl, dark devotion, or other perks to help with a hit can pretty much end the game if one person is caught off guard. I understand her weaknesses but I think if you mess up against a hag its over.

Lol the most respect I've received for a twins player. The best. Believe it. You made excellent points n put my twins right where they should be. A tier n most certainly s tier if any* survivors out of the 4 don't know some counters. EVEN SO...my fastest 4k is 2:42. Survivors in 2 man squads are the best way tho I've played enough to still break through. I also use leverage so if you are going to heal, best make it quick before my next down...while you also worry about gens not being done cause you also have a teammate on hook, a teammate in the ground, or a teammate in a corner hook far from objectives...maybe even a dead zone. Since the QOL update for twins I am damn near unstoppable THO* I do have to try still. Every round. My exp with the lesser twins before the patch I made work, I knew w the appropriate * buffs I would hardly lose (twins kill rate shot up past 63% recently). I would love to test my twins against some of the best....the only test left. Anyways great dude. Excellent tier list for sure

I play artist main and i love to play her. On "flat maps" she is an S, on maps with at leat 2 floors she is a A-B :( But it's not impossible, to kill all survivors on a difficult map

Funnily enough about Merchant’s stealth, I experimented by going through one match by just placing drones and immediately recalling them just for the stealth and survivors still hated it. It just goes to show how dumb it lowkey is.

I don't know what's worse if billy in as first or hag and dredge in D tier

You know why the creation of skull merchant is stupid . Survivors cant deal with onryos tapes or pinheads box yet somehow they thought skull merchants drones wouldnt be a problem . Really the issue i have with the drones is people running in them and setting them off or training the killer on you while your trying to disable . Also nobody knows you can just run through and stand still when the scan hits and you dont get a stack . But again people cant deal with pinheads box . How do you expect them to deal with her .

How strong do y’all think the singularity will be after his update ?

I think a good addition to this sort of tier list could be something like a variability factor. An example would be an A tier killer where played at their best is A, maybe even S tier, but if they get countered could slide down closer to B tier. And the opposite goes for some lower tier killers.

so nice to see someone agree that billy is insanely strong. back revving is so busted there’s 0 counterplay in many scenarios

Actually Freddies Dream Snares are very strong, if you place them correctly and if you combine them with Coupe de Grace.

Man, I find it hard to believe that Dredge isn't a solid C tier. He can teleport around most the map without any setup. He excels with perks like alien instinct, which on most killers is just a shittier BBQ & Chilli, but since Dredge can zoom all over the map, he can sneak up on the one spotted survivor while they're oblivious to ruin their day. You can also get loose tracking mid-teleport from auras and sounds. Nightfall is very very strong. Proper remnant placement can shut down loops more easily than I think Dredge is getting credit for here. It's true that he can get dogged by bad locker spawns and Tofu brings up a good point about some maps having areas that will never have lockers. Aura perks can help with that, but it's still a significant weakness. Because of that, there's probably no way he'll ever be higher than C, but I think think this placement is a bit harsh.

really enjoyed listening to you ranking the killers, the only placement i disagree with entirely is chucky. chucky is very easily countered by good comms and prerunning, and being a 4.4 who has to catch up against various exhaustions basically makes you a much worse spirit. just my opinion though, great tier list anyway :)

Billy will struggle a lot in indoor maps Even relly good Billy may cant win against good survivor

Give Hag 4.6 speed 🙏

I think it would be a cool idea to add gameplay to what you are talking about👍 good content

When Vecna's flight is on cooldown, survivors hold W very hard to catch back up

So, these are the changes i would make: -Chucky is definitely not S tier neither A tier, hes like a top of B for me, artist is more like bottom A and wesker too, sng is high A, if you wanna put 5 killers in S tier then it would be twins. Then i think the tierlist would be more accurate, of course there are more little positioning changes i would suggest but i would be writting an entire bible more than im already doing xd

Chucky is as strong as nurse? What

chucky S ties, Wesker A tier what? these two killer can do a thing in a large map, gen rushers, good loopers! this list needs to be reconseder lots of imposters

You cooked with this one, Tofu. I agree almost completely with your entire tier list. My only disagreement is Sadako’s placement, and even then, I think she should only go a few places higher

Ngl bro, Oni is straight our S-Tier

Ghosty in C, Hag last, and Billy 1st deserves life in solitary confinement

Ngl this is not a bad tier list. i would just move hilly hehind the nurse. Move more spirt to A tier. Dont know enough about chucky/vecna, but I would move onryo up a little and bubba ahead of deathslinger.

Don't have much time, I skipped to the end to see where they're at. Solid! Though I've long put Artist eeking into S-tier and over Spirit. Carmina is nutty! Snipe a survivor across map while in chase and smacking another survivor is so satisfying

Iv been saying this for years. Iri stone should be base kit for trapper.

Being a spirit main you actually get the thrill of seeing those moments you know you jumpscared someone😂 Room quiet and HEADPHONES FULL BLAST BABY! And I won't lie as plague also itend not to use red almost at all I wait for the perfect moment in the match the time it's crucial for survivors to try get time back most of the time it's when I got 2 downs then I go to my 1st fountain usage just to add that extra pressure at the worst times for survivors

Really enjoyed listening to this, though might just be my preference that I prefer videos that I can play in the background and listen to where there isn't as much visual needed vs. something like a gameplay video

what I learned from this video is, that there are way too many characters in this game that are just shittier versions of others

Hillbilly defiantly number one map mobility and speed of the blight with insta down and he dosent have to worry about charges

18:37 With one jag build, Hag can become an s tier killer, demi used the build in his last video (DBD: This is the most EVIL killer build...)

I absolutely love Billy and I main him but I was also a nurse main at 1 point and I’ll still say nurse still have the edge on him just because she ignore all the basic fundamentals of the game. Yes Billy can insta down get around the map really quick but he still has to play around pallets while nurse just doesn’t care. When I play survivor I’m much more excited to see a Billy or nurse regardless of their skill.

Incredibly based putting Billy at #1, I think more people need to realize how insanely strong he is right now, the DBD community is still obsessed with treating him like their pookie for some reason when he's legit busted right now.

If Hag was 4.6 most of her problems would've been gone

Interesting list. I agree with most placements. I main the Cowboy and he can either feel like A-Tier when you manage to zone people or land every shot or can be C-Tier when you get a big map with many strong paletts (Disturbed Ward for example). I would definitely say Artist and Huntress are stronger than him.

Funny seeing all of my favorite killers that I'm the best with being low tier according to Tofu

the hot take tier list

I didn’t know that your character model can get in the way. Oh, breaking him out. Also, I don’t think that’s the only problem he has I think also, the reason why he breaking them out is inconsistent is because of the servers because I’m pretty sure the servers have to say yes you broke him out or no you did, and in that regard is finicky on both sides, and makes it not fun also his lane suffers from the same thing if the server says that you’re not leaning even though you push the button you’re not gonna lean

Fuck yeah ty papa tof

Myers is S tier tombstone piece with play with your food its not fair

I loveee dredge Dredge main for life

So I’m at the beginning of the video and I’ll give this hot take because getting flamed seems to be my kink or something. I love going up against Nurse she’s easily my favorite and that’s because she forces me to switch up my play style. I’m the looper of my group, I usually am expected to run the killer for at least 2 gens at the start of matches, and while it’s fun… it gets boring and frustrating. The Nurse forces me to completely take a 180 on how I play, I go from actively seeking agro to playing it like a horror game and taking things in a more immersed manner. I have to play stealthy, make smart decisions, try and avoid the killer rather than try and actively seek them out. Its a rush of excitement for me when I run against Nurse, plus her Mori is one of my favorites. I just wish I could play her better :/ PS; I have over 3k hours in the game before someone reads this and assumes “you like nurse?!? Must be a baby.” I’m also not saying she doesn’t deserve a rework, personally I think that’s a conversation for people who are far smarter than I am. But I know just because I like her how she is that it doesn’t make her “balanced.” I know I’m in the minority which is why I called it a hot take

Huntress being at the very bottom of B tier has got to be a joke.

I definitely agree vecna is B tier especially since they nerfed mage hand which was his only decent skill at getting downs and downing with skeletons is super situational

Dredge main here, you just don´t played ma boy enought! He´s on B top easily.

All killers are S tier cuz I'm escaping on 1% of my matches

My break just ended damn BUT YESSSS LETS GOOOO TOFU

My top 5 list is def #1 Nurse #2 Chucky #3 blight #4 spirit #5 Billy

I dont care if this is the strongest Chucky has been he was more fun before they changed him

I would say spirit is S tier as long as cherry blossom exists in the way it does Removes almost all counterplay for survs with a downside that shouldnt matter to good spirits

Finally some respect for the piggy

O just like skull merchant people cant deal with alien because people dont ever set up turrets or they put them right by the tunnel which is what happens when i play against him . Always in power