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Terrible Writing Advice

Terrible Writing Advice

3 жыл бұрын

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@cubicbanban
@cubicbanban 3 жыл бұрын
Rule 1: if there is no corpse, the character is actually not dead Rule 2: if there is a corpse, the character may not be dead for some reason
@rhemacreel1339
@rhemacreel1339 3 жыл бұрын
this is true
@tomilayjr
@tomilayjr 3 жыл бұрын
What if they’re torn into pieces?
@starlightmoone
@starlightmoone 3 жыл бұрын
I mean you aren’t wrong
@roaringthunder115
@roaringthunder115 3 жыл бұрын
True
@dr.calibrations7984
@dr.calibrations7984 3 жыл бұрын
A certain flamboyant bubble man and his autistic future telling friend would STRONGLY disagree. But I suppose his Nazi friend would lol
@Ehh97
@Ehh97 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the five stages of character grief: Edgey brooding Edgey brooding Edgey brooding Edgey brooding and Revenge.
@ultralight9625
@ultralight9625 3 жыл бұрын
No the real first step is having the dead character did in the grieving characters arms.
@toganium4175
@toganium4175 3 жыл бұрын
You spelled edgy wrong four times consecutively
@WraithMagus
@WraithMagus 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was "Edgy brooding, edgy brooding, *REVENGE!,* more edgy brooding because we think it's cool, randomly lashing out at random other people as though it were revenge," AKA. the "modern Batman cycle"
@Ehh97
@Ehh97 3 жыл бұрын
@@toganium4175 It was early my dude and I copied and pasted. My bad.
@paolo2763
@paolo2763 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the final one was going to be "Suddenly turning into a wise and calm person", but then I realised this is 90% of action movies
@loganstafford249
@loganstafford249 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to make a character who constantly talks about his backstory, hopes, dreams and aspirations just to raise the tension, then never kill him for infinite tension.
@lerombus6020
@lerombus6020 3 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, I got a wife. I'm excited to see her again." *an entire stories worth of pain later* "WHY WONT I DIEEE????"
@FatherTime89
@FatherTime89 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure to add a cop buddy who is 5 days away from retirement.
@501ststormtrooper9
@501ststormtrooper9 2 жыл бұрын
@@FatherTime89 *1 minute away from retirement.*
@eleanorcarpenter37
@eleanorcarpenter37 2 жыл бұрын
@@501ststormtrooper9 Well he retired, his family is fine. What now?
@madamebkrt
@madamebkrt 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to have other characters comment on his young age.
@The_Misanthropic_Magpie
@The_Misanthropic_Magpie 3 жыл бұрын
Villain: *Kills very experienced and powerful mentor* Also Villain: *loses to inexperienced protagonists because he’s angry*
@js66613
@js66613 2 жыл бұрын
That sucks.
@platy4700
@platy4700 2 жыл бұрын
Force Awakens much?
@Brightsonp
@Brightsonp 2 жыл бұрын
And the inexperienced protag somehow surpass the mentor with one training arc
@virovac885
@virovac885 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the fact anger actually makes you fight worse usually
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 жыл бұрын
@@virovac885 May seem random to some but this video made me wanna recommend Atomic Shrimp, Sci Man Dan, Professor Dave and maybe-more-if-youw-want, cause they cover $camms and i dont want people to fal for ‚em.
@logansheat6720
@logansheat6720 3 жыл бұрын
*mentor dies* Main character: "Oh no!" Main character: "Anyway"
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 3 жыл бұрын
Logan Sheat Not in Trunks case he felt that pain even years after.
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker: "So anyway, I started blasting."
@ygobe2
@ygobe2 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja Named Bob the power of friendship
@harmonyqueue
@harmonyqueue 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja Named Bob Protagonist: Actually, you wanted me believe that it was inconceivable because you can't accept that it's unachievable for you, even though you've always known that. It's really very simple: You turned my mind against me, and I believed you. I truly feel sorry for you, because I believe in you, and now you will cry because I am the first person to ever show kindness to you. But I must also make the ultimate sacrifice because that is how my vampire boyfriend, who always warned me about you but I did not believe him but he could never imagine anyone like me ever being replaceable even though I've never believed in myself, and thus I must almost die so my vampire boyfriend will say, "No! I WILL NOT LET HER GO!" and then expand his powers such that I am brought back to life as a vampire too, and then you will surely meet your ultimate fate as death because I will kill you and then my gay best friend will say, "Yaaaasss queen," and I will become the average-looking queen... TWENTY-FOUR PAGES LATER Protagonist: ... and I will have a son, and I will name him after my vampire boyfriend, who will by then be my vampire husband. But you will come back from the dead as a powerful spirit, which my non-binary-other-best-friend will pick up by discovering that she is no longer afraid of her powers. And they will cast a massive spell that makes the ultimate sacrifice for me and my vampire son and vampire husband, who are also witches, but I will become known as Snow Droplet as my best friend dies and their powers transfer to me and everyone is surprised. See, you... TWENTY-FOUR PAGES LATER Protagonist: ...vampire son's best friend, who is a teen werewolf, will strap me into the sling, and he will pull his shirt off and I will run my hands across his bulging chest-ceps and biceps and triceps, which makes me blush red like the Communist Manifesto. And he will put his you-know into my you-know...
@chaos9608
@chaos9608 3 жыл бұрын
Main character: “Oh, my family’s dead and everyone is out to murder me? Oh, boo boo! Anyways...”
@Anon-rt3fx
@Anon-rt3fx 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I genuinely wonder how many terrible books this poor man had to suffer through to be able to give us this wisdom.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 жыл бұрын
Books, comics, TV, movies, video games, this crap is all over every storytelling medium!
@rhemacreel1339
@rhemacreel1339 3 жыл бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 sadly-- yep! I've seen more bad movies than I've read bad books. But both are filling the storytelling medium
@DoomBowser64
@DoomBowser64 3 жыл бұрын
Nah just anime
@eddiefernandez5052
@eddiefernandez5052 3 жыл бұрын
@@DoomBowser64 there are lots of good anime out there though, horror and zombies is where the garbage truly is.
@seaemji8591
@seaemji8591 3 жыл бұрын
And isekai
@PossumReviews
@PossumReviews 3 жыл бұрын
The mentor usually dies at the end of the second act.
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 3 жыл бұрын
Then comes back as a ghost
@shiibwrry
@shiibwrry 3 жыл бұрын
*thinks of Mia from Ace Attorney *
@uboa8060
@uboa8060 3 жыл бұрын
@@shiibwrry why was I just watching a video where Mia and Edgeworth discuss sans undertale.
@stephanierachal6320
@stephanierachal6320 3 жыл бұрын
*glances at Hamilton.* Hmmm.....
@spencerngene5546
@spencerngene5546 3 жыл бұрын
Dr shaym
@Oddity2994
@Oddity2994 3 жыл бұрын
you know what I actually hate? When a character who deserves to die doesn't die.
@edeniceribeiro7075
@edeniceribeiro7075 3 жыл бұрын
Yeees, I was watching this show, a character that I really liked died and stay dead, but the goddamn villain resurrected
@sandraplattsphoneaccount7799
@sandraplattsphoneaccount7799 3 жыл бұрын
Samee
@jamesjoe4654
@jamesjoe4654 3 жыл бұрын
@Elalae La what story is this from?
@NepetasShippingWall1642
@NepetasShippingWall1642 3 жыл бұрын
@Elalae La what series are you talking about?
@NepetasShippingWall1642
@NepetasShippingWall1642 3 жыл бұрын
@Elalae La it's okay
@JasonGodwin69
@JasonGodwin69 3 жыл бұрын
The more characters you eliminate, the stronger a writer you become.
@videogamer596
@videogamer596 3 жыл бұрын
I mean you get XP for each character kill. Some writers like to farm them by creating stories that are absolutely full of chod character death, though a few key character deaths will get you more XP in the long run.
@StephenGillie
@StephenGillie 3 жыл бұрын
The plot to Jet Li's The One.
@Braxton999Adams
@Braxton999Adams 3 жыл бұрын
Your LOVE increased.
@vixnighter132
@vixnighter132 3 жыл бұрын
The bible: STRONKS
@smeksii_yozhik
@smeksii_yozhik 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of three-eyed sword logic bullshit 🤔🤔
@lemumle
@lemumle 3 жыл бұрын
Character: *mentions backstory, their ambitions and dreams but is not the protagonist* Story: your free trial of living is over; now you are going to be a plot device
@b0cket380
@b0cket380 3 жыл бұрын
Even SAO is stupid
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's what Yahtzee Croshaw criticized about the TOMB RAIDER reboot: everyone else dies off for Lara's character development.
@shonenbag6478
@shonenbag6478 3 жыл бұрын
Guido Mista: Laughs
@sleepyking5131
@sleepyking5131 3 жыл бұрын
Why hello there danganronpa story structure!
@humanisme6746
@humanisme6746 3 жыл бұрын
B0cket I love SAO even though it’s super cheesy in that way. I mean what was his face from the second episode who died even though Kirito could have easily given him a health pack or whatever and then he proceeded to give a 2 minute monologue. 😂
@luigiluigi543212345
@luigiluigi543212345 3 жыл бұрын
"If the story doesn't end with the redeemed villain dying that makes everything awkward." All Kirby villains:
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 3 жыл бұрын
I don't remember 0² being redeemed. In fact, I remember that "dark star" _exploding._
@Semudara
@Semudara 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel like most of the Cosmic Horrors that Kirby fights end up completely destroyed. King Dedede and Meta Knight are his friends now, but they were never all that sinister. Now, villains in Steven Universe, on the other hand.... =P
@highadmiraljt5853
@highadmiraljt5853 3 жыл бұрын
@@Semudara Hitler crystals get redeemed bcs Steven doesn’t discriminate. Such a good reason to redeem these characters/s
@semudara9723
@semudara9723 3 жыл бұрын
@@highadmiraljt5853 No no, you see, they decided to stop being evil after thousands of years of genocide because.... because, uh.... uhhhhhhhhhhh............... muffin button?
@highadmiraljt5853
@highadmiraljt5853 3 жыл бұрын
@@semudara9723 lol
@BigVorst
@BigVorst 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the obsession with killing off beloved characters in recent years has made me not care about characters anymore.
@savvystudios7950
@savvystudios7950 3 жыл бұрын
Same, like do we really need deaths in every story? Try coming up with new ways to absolutely emotionally shatter the audience lol
@inr9751
@inr9751 3 жыл бұрын
@@savvystudios7950 What, mindbreak the characters Berserk style?
@xx_r2-drip2_xx52
@xx_r2-drip2_xx52 3 жыл бұрын
@@inr9751 this
@Stars.Are.Cool.1111
@Stars.Are.Cool.1111 3 жыл бұрын
@@savvystudios7950 I only killed 2 important characters in the main story, but each character has a backstory that involves death.
@neno3123
@neno3123 3 жыл бұрын
That is so true, I’ve grown numb to the “dead/abusive parents” trope, lmfao.
@-AAA-147
@-AAA-147 3 жыл бұрын
Extra points if you "foreshadow" a character's death by having them reveal their backstory and/or feelings for someone right before they die! Edit: there be spoilers for literally everything (mostly Jojo's) in these replies.
@cyanic3148
@cyanic3148 3 жыл бұрын
especially if they were about to retire, and show their family picture, bonus points if they're a soldier bonus bonus points if it's a male character bonus bonus bonus points if it's a wide-eyed, optimistic, younger man
@reeceemms1643
@reeceemms1643 3 жыл бұрын
I did that by making the character have a feeling like someone is going to die and then kill them
@realhumanbean7915
@realhumanbean7915 3 жыл бұрын
Cyanic Double points if it’s a cop rather than soldier
@moriskurth628
@moriskurth628 3 жыл бұрын
Or if they start talking about their future extensively out of a sudden. Damn, Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans seems to love turning Characters into Death Flag Collectors. Like, seriously, the first death of a named character was actually pretty shocking, but at the second one you kinda saw where this is going, and by the third it just gets frustrating. The series isn't bad at handling Character Deaths, it's just that it telehraphs it a bit much.
@reeceemms1643
@reeceemms1643 3 жыл бұрын
@@realhumanbean7915 I got double points then
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 жыл бұрын
But how will my audience understand that my story is mature and for adults unless I start killing indiscriminately and as graphically as possible despite the fun premise? ...Nuance? Advanced themes? ...Oooooooooh! You mean cussing and banging and stuff.
@schmebulockjizz
@schmebulockjizz 3 жыл бұрын
Blood!! MORE BLOOD MORE SEX SCENES AND MORE SWEAR WORDS!! Also make sure your characters start every sentence with "fucking".
@miriamreinhardt8939
@miriamreinhardt8939 3 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on writing horror based on true historical events and the majority of deaths that happen in it will provide social commentary. For example, a character may die because he overdosed on a new synthetic drug, or because of police brutality, or maybe they committed suicide because society doesn't accept them for who they really are. Or maybe they died because someone gave them an overdose of a date rape drug.
@popopop984
@popopop984 3 жыл бұрын
Bro you watch Fairy Tail, I don’t feel like you’re allowed to comment on this video.
@RandoPassingBy
@RandoPassingBy 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I see you everywhere : D (Everywhere except my vids but I won't tell you that)
@rachelciel3330
@rachelciel3330 3 жыл бұрын
@@popopop984 watching it doesn't mean liking it. Even liking it doesn't mean you can't make fun of it.
@user-gn5jt5gf2x
@user-gn5jt5gf2x 3 жыл бұрын
And when Comic Relief dies, make sure his last words are: "Z-z-zap-pers..."
@TheMamaluigi300
@TheMamaluigi300 3 жыл бұрын
*l a u g h t r a c k*
@CygnusTheSilly
@CygnusTheSilly 3 жыл бұрын
*Seinfeld theme starts playing*
@adielrabino5931
@adielrabino5931 3 жыл бұрын
More like "M E A T" 😢😢😢😢
@chumbucket3475
@chumbucket3475 3 жыл бұрын
Comic relief: [signature goofy catchphrase, but spoken slowly and painfully] Ah yes, sadness, now activate emotion liquid so I may have large amounts of monetary gain
@redsun832
@redsun832 2 жыл бұрын
@@adielrabino5931 dont do this to me
@lmpeters
@lmpeters 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite examples of a death scene subverting expectations is in Hamlet. Shakespeare, of course, is legendary for mortally wounded characters giving long speeches just before they die, and Polonius was one of the most long-winded characters in any of his plays. And then when Polonius got stabbed, his entire death speech was, "Oh, I am slain!"
@bendumpaccount574
@bendumpaccount574 3 жыл бұрын
Shack spear has a lot more satire and medacomintary than anyone realises.
@s.e.111films3
@s.e.111films3 3 жыл бұрын
I played the part of Polonius once and overacted the shit out of that death scene. It was fun.
@rosierserpent6912
@rosierserpent6912 3 жыл бұрын
@@s.e.111films3 i wanna see that. o.O
@omkr0122
@omkr0122 3 жыл бұрын
This could explain why Caesar was stabbed 21 times...
@user-in1gv1uh2v
@user-in1gv1uh2v 3 жыл бұрын
@@s.e.111films3 I did the same in my Honor's English.
@amriakhsan9208
@amriakhsan9208 3 жыл бұрын
Soldier: Hold family picture Author : "SO YOU CHOSEN DEATH"
@Michael-fd1gx
@Michael-fd1gx 3 жыл бұрын
No that is expected, subvert the trope instead.
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna retire tomorrow. Here's a picture with me and my loving family. Just one last patrol/job/battle.......
@flyingdeathcatsgo
@flyingdeathcatsgo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-fd1gx nah if he survives his family dies and then he has to avenge them.
@Ctrooper2011
@Ctrooper2011 3 жыл бұрын
Because we all know the only literal way to demonstrate a soldier has someone to wait for him or her is to show a realistic photo of either a family member or the whole family. Child's drawings, engagement rings, and family letters may seem like things to consider, but they're too hard to come up with so let's just throw all those away. 😀
@morrishellgrn
@morrishellgrn 3 жыл бұрын
Lieutenant Hughes! Sorry I mean brigadier general
@donslipo
@donslipo 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that dead mother in the backstory should have the "dead mother" hairdo. (look Fullmetal Alchemist)
@biblicallyaccuratecockroach
@biblicallyaccuratecockroach 3 жыл бұрын
And Castlevania (the series)
@kristophesiem5336
@kristophesiem5336 3 жыл бұрын
Or literally any anime where the mother dies
@dest2118
@dest2118 3 жыл бұрын
People with that hair style just die. No exceptions. Get a haircut like that and it’s pretty much certain tragedy will befall you.
@blueteller
@blueteller 3 жыл бұрын
But the hairstyle of death is a traditional anime death foreshadowing! ...Besides, everyone knows that the only more deadly occupation than being a mentor is being the protagonist's biological parent.
@i.s.9451
@i.s.9451 3 жыл бұрын
The loose side poneytail.
@phantomaviator1318
@phantomaviator1318 3 жыл бұрын
honestly i want a story where the narrator is extremely angry and just has the antagonist and protagonist die immediately, 5 pages in, and the rest of the 200 page book is the narrator taking out his anger and spite on the reader.
@keithjohnson3277
@keithjohnson3277 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like something I would write.
@aeyakieduenas1331
@aeyakieduenas1331 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to read that
@ohmatokita8113
@ohmatokita8113 3 жыл бұрын
Fun concept, but extremely hard to keep it interesting troughout 200 pages
@chumbucket3475
@chumbucket3475 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda want to make a d&d campaign where the villain/BBEG turns out to be the DM, so the final battle is the players literally fighting God as the universe turns against them
@idontknowwhattoputhere7017
@idontknowwhattoputhere7017 2 жыл бұрын
@@chumbucket3475 that kinda happens in this game I played where the main antagonist is basically the god of the game’s universe but is willing to die to see the game come to an end
@3slicessenpai
@3slicessenpai 3 жыл бұрын
Character: "After this adventure, I'm going to start going to school and eat a bunch of italian pizza!" Author: "So you've chosen...death"
@lordpyron3934
@lordpyron3934 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a specific reference to a Japanese manga.
@owo4288
@owo4288 3 жыл бұрын
Too soon
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 3 жыл бұрын
I want to die in battle an Honorable death, walks up in hospital with a live long injury
@zillafire101
@zillafire101 3 жыл бұрын
*In the court of the Crimson King plays*
@n-extrafries-surprise
@n-extrafries-surprise 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how awfully specific this is and it's one of the deaths I don't want to happen
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot one of the unbeatable methods of resurrecting a character: have them reborn through the introduction of a different character that’s near-identical to them in every way! If you need a cheap excuse as to why they’re so eerily similar to the one that just died, just say they’re a twin or part of the deceased’s family whilst assuring the audience they’re totally not a carbon-copy replacement for the departed character, so forget about the fact they’re constantly asking why you bothered killing the original in the first place if they were just going to be replaced by the same character, but with one letter changed in their name!
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
*or have that one specific letter being silent* *or even better...have all the other letters of the name be silent EXCEPT that very one...that's in the middle of the name that includes on of those weird accent marks than no one outside the country of origin has any idea how to pronounce*
@Kerrisive
@Kerrisive 3 жыл бұрын
Or you know, you can go straight into crazy-ville by introducing a character that seems like they would be that resurrected character or a identical twin of them, but in reality, they were just obsessively jealous of that dead character when they were alive and intentionally got plastic surgery and changed their name to be exactly like them. This can be done well if you use their jealousy as a toxic character motivation, but hey. Unrelated spoiler video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orSVbMp8u6e-Ymg.html
@jedyzichterman358
@jedyzichterman358 3 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of a British comedy called 'Allo 'Allo, where the main character is a pub/tavern owner during the German occupation of France in the second world war and fakes his death, only to return to the same tavern as the long lost twin of himself.. Granted it isn't exactly the scenario you described but it still makes me chuckle because all the characters not in the loop on this switcheroo are utterly tricked by it.. Kind of showcases how dumb this method of pseudo-resurrection is lmao
@JasonGodwin69
@JasonGodwin69 3 жыл бұрын
Like what BlazBlue did.
@MalekitGJ
@MalekitGJ 3 жыл бұрын
_Avdol entered the chat_
@LordSoulSicarious
@LordSoulSicarious 3 жыл бұрын
Unironically, I actually love major character deaths out of nowhere as a jarring toneshift. Stories where it seems like death is off the table, then someone *actually dies* and everything changes? That feels powerful. 99% of resurrections are shit though.
@KotCR
@KotCR 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this can work fine, so long as resurrections aren't a thing (or at least are once in a millenia rare). Else you just get into the "why not just use a Phoenix Down?" argument. So I guess you still need to establish at some point in the story that in that world, deaths for realsies are actually a thing.
@KotCR
@KotCR 3 жыл бұрын
@Talkin’ Timb Well, that's the other thing, if you are going to bring somebody back from the dead, you sure as hell better make sure they come back changed (and probably not for the better). There's no way dying wouldn't have some influence on your character. That's the other silly resurrection trope, when characters come back from the dead and they are exactly the same as they were before, usually with a silly handwave excuse like they are too pure too change or something. Once again, unless Phoenix Downs are common in a world, so dying all the time and coming back is a common occurrence (in which case it's often a bit pointless writing deaths into your story anyway, unless the whole point of the story is the Phoenix Downs stop being a thing and people struggle to adapt), a character absolutely needs to change in some way if they are coming back from the dead.
@theswampus670
@theswampus670 3 жыл бұрын
when done well it works
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 3 жыл бұрын
So imma offer a hot take here: DBZ style resurrections are fine if you want to introduce the possibility of a character losing a fight without having to (permanently) kill off said character. Sometimes you just wanna write a dumb action flick where excessively buff guys punch eachother.
@blakexu4943
@blakexu4943 3 жыл бұрын
Protip: A good writer will know to milk deaths like the ghost of Christmas past.
@l0sts0ul89
@l0sts0ul89 3 жыл бұрын
Author: *creates fan fav character* Fans: " We love him " Author: *kills fan favorite character and only brings him back in dream scenes* Fans: ;-;
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
andrew hussie in a nutshell
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 3 жыл бұрын
A Stand user? And this is NOT a Jojo reference.... but that was.
@alexthegreat1395
@alexthegreat1395 3 жыл бұрын
Jiraiya, is that you?
@starlightmoone
@starlightmoone 3 жыл бұрын
Nehemia
@Andrewtr6
@Andrewtr6 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes fan favorites have to die but it should be done well and at an appropriate time... usually to set up a big bad.
@jrheiselt
@jrheiselt 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the "was never really dead to begin with" means of bringing back a character should be at least mentioned. Looking at you Rise of Skywalker.
@maallos334mi8
@maallos334mi8 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the rise of sky walker was a direct reaction and an attempt to appeal to those who... disliked the Last Jedi.
@EagleEye-rw5pn
@EagleEye-rw5pn 3 жыл бұрын
@@maallos334mi8 and it make people who hate and love The last Jedi hate The rise of Skywalker together
@chrisdawson1776
@chrisdawson1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@maallos334mi8 You can’t fix bad writing with even worse writing.
@XraynPR
@XraynPR 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisdawson1776 "Shit, we ruined Luke and the lore of the franchise, what else can we do now to fix it?" "Ruin Palpatine and Anakin too?" "Great idea, that will do it!"
@surprisedchar2458
@surprisedchar2458 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: That storyline is literally just half of Dark Empire from the EU.
@haillobster7154
@haillobster7154 3 жыл бұрын
Do it just for the sake of SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS!!
@De-Nigma
@De-Nigma 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah, that’s true, I wasn’t expecting that.
@cybersketcher1130
@cybersketcher1130 3 жыл бұрын
Except killing Luke Skywalker (the mentor) wasn't a subversion, just a cliche.
@ShibuNub3305
@ShibuNub3305 3 жыл бұрын
Rian Johnson: *Heavy breathing*
@deeznoots6241
@deeznoots6241 3 жыл бұрын
If the readers every make a theory that one of your characters die you must instead make a different character die just so you can feel superior to them.
@stug6974
@stug6974 3 жыл бұрын
Subverting the audience's expectation of actually getting to experience a well-written story
@sparrrorow
@sparrrorow 3 жыл бұрын
Let's be real, JP was kicked out of Hell cause everyone there were jelous of his amazing writting skills.
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 3 жыл бұрын
Sparrrorow that or Satan got really tired of how he started every conversation with “so by the way, I am writing a book. What to know what it’s about?”
@juanarocha8629
@juanarocha8629 3 жыл бұрын
Because Heaven wanted his stories
@sparrrorow
@sparrrorow 3 жыл бұрын
@@juanarocha8629 of course not! Even god itself is jelous of JP writing skills!
@jetskioutofwater2913
@jetskioutofwater2913 3 жыл бұрын
so amazing he could even spell 'jealous' and 'writing' correctly
@sparrrorow
@sparrrorow 3 жыл бұрын
@@jetskioutofwater2913 English is hard. sometimes it puts second "t" in present continues, sometimes it doesn't, and then it throws unnecessary letters everywhere. kurwa mać.
@arx3516
@arx3516 3 жыл бұрын
The redermed villain doesn't necessarily have to die, he can become the edgy anti hero in the next arcs.
@Somespideronline
@Somespideronline 2 жыл бұрын
That's literally Negan in TWD comics
@dreamflies9339
@dreamflies9339 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t just like your thinking, I LOVE your thinking
@adrianpaul1985
@adrianpaul1985 2 жыл бұрын
Vegeta and Shadow the hedgehog be like:
@ohnobro1424
@ohnobro1424 2 жыл бұрын
Loki from Marvel and Crowley from Supernatural be like:
@resentfuldragon
@resentfuldragon Жыл бұрын
or they can just join the main cast if you are writing something like jojo. Almost always the main cast start as minor antagonists to the mc but they become great friends later on.
@ekimmak
@ekimmak 3 жыл бұрын
Danganronpa: "I don't know why you find it so strange that less than a third of the characters survive the game. We make it pretty clear that most of them are going to be dead by the end."
@namkwal4605
@namkwal4605 2 жыл бұрын
"oh and also all but one (we cant keep intresting comedic relief characters so lets just make the surviving one a fucking dumbass) of the survivors have the same post-arc personality lol"
@benduford3746
@benduford3746 Жыл бұрын
Because you make them so likable it’s not fair!
@corryjamieson3909
@corryjamieson3909 Жыл бұрын
​@@benduford3746 Monokuma: Life isn't fair! now put on the maid dress!
@lordanubis1458
@lordanubis1458 Жыл бұрын
Except the boring guy, he always survives somehow...
@karolnowak6423
@karolnowak6423 Жыл бұрын
@@lordanubis1458 Or an annoying/dumb/immature character (Hagakure (Dreadman)/Souda (shark-mechanic)/Yumeno(magician)). Also: that boring guy may be boring, but actually does give a shit, investigates the murder and actually solves the trial mystery... while other characters sometimes feels like they do not have to actually solve shit.
@newperve
@newperve 3 жыл бұрын
"...in a rare fit of continuity." It will pass.
@newperve
@newperve 3 жыл бұрын
Called it.
@bjorn3538
@bjorn3538 3 жыл бұрын
George R.R. Martin: *Let me show you how it's done.*
@henriquemontalvao8492
@henriquemontalvao8492 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Hussie: step aside, kid
@donslipo
@donslipo 3 жыл бұрын
"Danganronpa": Hold my pink koolaid.
@henriquemontalvao8492
@henriquemontalvao8492 3 жыл бұрын
Akame ga kill: *EVERYONE DIES. THE END"
@haillobster7154
@haillobster7154 3 жыл бұрын
Devilman Crybaby sends his regards.
@yourlocald.i.c.emember7876
@yourlocald.i.c.emember7876 3 жыл бұрын
@@donslipo Im supposed to laugh, why is my eyes leaking?
@Lesfuckinggoo
@Lesfuckinggoo 2 жыл бұрын
Character: -is well beloved, has a happy life and has motivations and dreams for the future- Author: "you know the rules, and so do i... *S A Y G O O D B Y E* " -gunshot-
@mattmorehouse9685
@mattmorehouse9685 6 ай бұрын
It's the rule of drama- basically make everything a huge conflict filled mess. You know, like people want real life to be! Everyone knows realism is limited to everyone being either a goody two shoes who will, at most, accomplish nothing, and, at worst, cause the exact opposite of what they wanted, and a variety of scheming vil- I mean morally grey characters with tragic backstories. After all this guy had a puppy and then it died, so it's totally understandable his day job is burning down villages. Make sure to confuse "understandable" and "justified".
@Aaa-vp6ug
@Aaa-vp6ug 5 ай бұрын
MC:*N O .* Author: Shouldn’t have buffed him too much. MC: Correct!
@areallyboredindividual8766
@areallyboredindividual8766 3 жыл бұрын
The actual fun way to resurrect a dead character is to make them come back actually undead and have the nuances of their necrotic condition become a part of the story. For example, if they come back a vampire, you have to make your moves at night, or plan a spot for them to catch up with you while keeping the blood addiction in check.
@KineticManiac
@KineticManiac 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Arthas from the Warcraft series.
@gamer9720
@gamer9720 2 жыл бұрын
Or like Bruno's decaying body in Jojo!
@random_meta
@random_meta 2 жыл бұрын
American gods did it
@deerinheadlights7179
@deerinheadlights7179 2 жыл бұрын
do you know what i love more than anything though and plan for my protagonist? To kill her as some pathetic and miserable dog (not good example... killing cute animals go on screen because we need tears) off screen and then another protagonist find her body? Maybe not even find her body?
@Aredel
@Aredel 2 жыл бұрын
That's always been an important aspect of resurrection in writing. Characters who come back to life are often completely changed by that experience, oftentimes not even resembling human anymore. Just look at Gandalf from Lord of the Rings, or Beric Dondarion from Game of Thrones. Both have died in their respective stories, and emerged completely different individuals as a result, often much darker, brooding and more ruthless than they were before.
@RunningWithRoses
@RunningWithRoses 3 жыл бұрын
someone needs to write a book purely based off of following this advice
@lusayonyondo9111
@lusayonyondo9111 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it would be awesome IMO. Cringy as hell, but I would probably be laughing my ass off.
@hekaterinedragon8776
@hekaterinedragon8776 3 жыл бұрын
Written by *terrible writing advice* . That would be a shitshow, but still a show nonetheless.
@stefanwalicord2512
@stefanwalicord2512 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I'm sure many are
@hekaterinedragon8776
@hekaterinedragon8776 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanwalicord2512 COUGH COUGH 50 SHADES OF GRAY COUGH COUGH
@agentjohn4313
@agentjohn4313 3 жыл бұрын
There's alredy a film trilogy about that, it's called "star wars sequels trilogy"
@Galaxia53
@Galaxia53 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else sick of the *big thing happens* and everyone in the story is like "Oh no they're dead! Oh nooooo! This is so sad.." a few seconds or minutes pass and "Wait no they're alive!"
@moonriverbaby4108
@moonriverbaby4108 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on how it's done. With JJBA, I kind of stop talking the plot seriously because Araki pulls out of BS.
@samvanderstaak7296
@samvanderstaak7296 3 жыл бұрын
@@moonriverbaby4108 ikr when Abbachio died I was like "oh he's fine, Gold Experience will fix that" and I still think its weird that it couldn't for some reason
@MuttFitness
@MuttFitness 3 жыл бұрын
Chewbacca's dead, be sad for 3 seconds before we say he isnt!
@mattkhourie4037
@mattkhourie4037 3 жыл бұрын
@@MuttFitness that will go down as a historically terrible bit of writing.
@moonriverbaby4108
@moonriverbaby4108 3 жыл бұрын
@@samvanderstaak7296 Maybe too much time has passed since Abbacchio got punched. I find it funny people talk about how "Stands cant revive people" as if we didn't watch Jotaro revive Joseph at the end of Part 3. Honestly, with how OP and Gold Experience and GER are, Giorno could possibly revive all his dead friends.
@brandonmalcolm2051
@brandonmalcolm2051 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible writing advice: killing off character’s Akame ga kill: Yes
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
and homestuck
@badlydrawnmedievallion6832
@badlydrawnmedievallion6832 3 жыл бұрын
And danganronpa
@slickestrick4117
@slickestrick4117 3 жыл бұрын
And Gantz...Oh wait Gantz was shit
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 жыл бұрын
Dam straight!
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 жыл бұрын
Fire Punch Manga too!
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I plan on just horrifically injuring my heroes. If they can be bedridden for the rest of the story, they can’t easily advise the hero when he’s far enough away, but they can still try to resolve their subplots, and also be all better for the sequel!
@sensha5470
@sensha5470 2 жыл бұрын
That… is actually a good way to do it without making their sacrifices meaningless.
@donaldorios6268
@donaldorios6268 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the most important factor regarding a character's death: the fact that they're a strawman of someone the author hates with the passion of a thousand suns. Because nothing's a guaranteed shoe-in for a better social life than having a character that's totally not a caricature of a real-life person killed off in the most brutal way possible. Bonus points if there weren't any character deaths in the first place.
@JenamDrag0n
@JenamDrag0n 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at Jurassic World with that poor woman tossed around from one dinosaur to the next before she was finally eaten along with a pteranadon by the mosasaurus.
@dryboneskirby
@dryboneskirby 3 жыл бұрын
JenamDrag0n but that wasn’t a caricature of anyone? Also eh it’s far from the most brutal death. Look at the death of Eddie Carr in JP:TLW if you want brutal. Also if you’re looking for a caricature of a real person in JP, look at the palaeontologist on the side of the InGen hunters who gets eaten by the rex at the waterfall. He’s called Robert Burke and is a caricature of Robert T. Bakker, a rival to Jack Horner who was the paleontological advisor to the JP films.
@sodaftpm185
@sodaftpm185 3 жыл бұрын
@@SunlitSonata14272 That was the first thing that came to my mind when watching this video.
@BL3H-
@BL3H- 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, this kind of thing actually happens in storytelling?
@mekingtiger9095
@mekingtiger9095 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, funnily enough, I actually used to do that in my stories when I was younger. Though it wasn't for hatred of the guy or anything. I just liked to laugh at him sometimes because... yes. Think of it as one of those weird "bullyish" friendships where one friend's favorite hobby is to joke and get some few laughs at the other one from time to time.
@tigerroar3749
@tigerroar3749 3 жыл бұрын
What if the last line of Harry Potter was “and then Harry woke up in his cabinet under the stairs”
@SabersLionHugger
@SabersLionHugger 3 жыл бұрын
The whole series retroactively becomes a tragedy.
@agentofchaos2901
@agentofchaos2901 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible terrible terrible
@edgar2552
@edgar2552 3 жыл бұрын
ahh the most dissappointing cliche
@rewrose2838
@rewrose2838 3 жыл бұрын
The best kind of twist 😂 it is still lame writing, but this can be used anywhere. Would prefer it if there were signs of it all being a dream of something while Harry, in his schizophrenia, crashed into the wall at that one platform
@fox_paw23
@fox_paw23 3 жыл бұрын
I'm making a book where at the end the protagonist finds out she's been in a coma and half the book didn't actually happen
@chaos871
@chaos871 3 жыл бұрын
"Nothing beats the rush of shocking your audience with a sudden character death." Avdol:
@coriakacoron5851
@coriakacoron5851 Жыл бұрын
his death is one of the deaths that's handled rather poorly in jojo
@foxywoxy0w068
@foxywoxy0w068 11 ай бұрын
Aerith: "Hold my Phoenix Down"
@doomspidey1737
@doomspidey1737 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he weaves in genuinely good advice in these satire videos, that's how you know he's a good writing
@friendlyspacedragon7250
@friendlyspacedragon7250 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the bad guy type of resurrection: Make them unwilling puppets of evil who must fight the main character. Bonus points for giving them full consciousness but no control of their body.
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 3 жыл бұрын
Friendly Space Dragon this one doesn’t really happen that often. It’s one of those cliches that are so cliche that it is often a real surprise to see them nowadays. Like the bad guy who just really wants to kill because he is evil and not because of some tragic backstory that is supposed to justify why he burned down all those kitten orphanages.
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 3 жыл бұрын
Taki yeet puppet but alive is common, but not puppet and dead
@penpen1089
@penpen1089 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally Zato=1 from guilty gear and Gael from dark souls
@firenze6478
@firenze6478 3 жыл бұрын
Super man
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 3 жыл бұрын
**Cough** Transformers G1 S3 'Dark Awakening' **Cough**
@patrickstar5136
@patrickstar5136 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible writing advice: The only show you watch for the ads.
@justinambru8529
@justinambru8529 3 жыл бұрын
Cough internet historian cough
@xfakelucid6504
@xfakelucid6504 3 жыл бұрын
It's a genius move, really. To make your ads engaging by giving them a story.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia Critic says hi.
@arte0021
@arte0021 3 жыл бұрын
I actually dont like his ads. Im just not a fan of long sketches in videos
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 3 жыл бұрын
@@arte0021 Err but his videos are one big sketch to begin with?
@shinkaiatsuya950
@shinkaiatsuya950 3 жыл бұрын
Never kill the hero. ReZero: Yes but actually no.
@_delta_music_
@_delta_music_ 3 жыл бұрын
Or, magnus chase
@revriee
@revriee 3 жыл бұрын
danganronpa: well yes, but actually no
@corryjamieson3909
@corryjamieson3909 3 жыл бұрын
Jojo: oh please
@furiousstudios4438
@furiousstudios4438 3 жыл бұрын
Me: *HERES A LITTLE LESSON IN TRICKERY, THIS IS GOING DOWN IN HISTORY!*
@EagleEye-rw5pn
@EagleEye-rw5pn 3 жыл бұрын
Red Dead Redemption games: *maniacly laughing* you serios?
@dracodracarys2339
@dracodracarys2339 3 жыл бұрын
also, killing characters by getting a hole punched into their torso. effective the first time but when multiple characters die this way the audience just thinks you have a donut fetish
@KaiserZERO
@KaiserZERO 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Kakyoin
@owo4288
@owo4288 3 жыл бұрын
He born on The Nationals Donuts Day.
@kidcircuit1955
@kidcircuit1955 2 жыл бұрын
We talking One Piece or Demon Slayer?
@pinksywedarnoc8017
@pinksywedarnoc8017 2 жыл бұрын
People who watched Mugen Train be like:
@diansc7322
@diansc7322 Жыл бұрын
JoJo
@adamgrogory
@adamgrogory 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anyone refer to a person in a love triangle as an "angle" but boy am I going to start using it!
@TheMamaluigi300
@TheMamaluigi300 3 жыл бұрын
Well duh, I mean they *are* acute
@lifeontheledgerlines8394
@lifeontheledgerlines8394 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMamaluigi300 That was an obtuse joke
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 3 жыл бұрын
TV tropes calls 4:26 a "death of the hypotenuse" which technically refers to the characters as "sides" rather than "angles," but it's pretty much the same concept. =^p
@sneefinsnorfintime
@sneefinsnorfintime 3 жыл бұрын
rhombus
@mreverything7056
@mreverything7056 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of the main character: Is about to die. Their backstory comes up: They feel a rush of strength. This is JoJo: They still die
@june9914
@june9914 3 жыл бұрын
I mean that only happened to kakyoin and zepelli no? And even in zepelli’s case he was reminiscing over the fact he accepts his fate
@mreverything7056
@mreverything7056 3 жыл бұрын
June Oh you poor poor soul. Just because Araki changed it a bit doesn’t mean that characters don’t still die
@hydrohomie6911
@hydrohomie6911 3 жыл бұрын
@june and naranica
@scrubthegod780
@scrubthegod780 3 жыл бұрын
Gabriel 2020 it’s not edgy characters just actually die in realistic ways in jojo
@MrSnom-pd7gx
@MrSnom-pd7gx 3 жыл бұрын
@Gabriel 2020 Edit, because people keep on arguing with me about this: The original comment I replied to said that the fact that characters die in the show is edgy. Stop thinking I'm calling the show's deaths realistic. I only mean that the fact that characters die is realistic, not the way they die. Now, here's my actual comment: It's never edgy, it's sad and somewhat-realistic most of the time.
@axljacx7090
@axljacx7090 3 жыл бұрын
My man used the power of his own plot holes to cheat death.
@Joseph-gy2rn
@Joseph-gy2rn 5 ай бұрын
Someone send this to Gege
@chaoticgoodcreations947
@chaoticgoodcreations947 3 жыл бұрын
JJ Abrams: *WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN.*
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 3 жыл бұрын
Stop JJ or else the Star Wars we know is doomed!
@offscreen6578
@offscreen6578 3 жыл бұрын
@@pyeitme508 Sorry but he already wrote the trilogy. He's done now... hopefully.
@davidt.5920
@davidt.5920 3 жыл бұрын
@Talkin’ Timb I actually like the force awakens and the last jedi is bad but not as bad as people say and TROS is the bad movie in the trilogy
@phantomspecter6223
@phantomspecter6223 3 жыл бұрын
TROJ, what is that movie you speak of. I remember there only being two movies in the final trilo- I mean, short series. Yup. It was a bit of a jump, I don't remember Luke dying at all in the TFA, and it was a little strange having some baddies back with no explanation, but hey at least there wasn't any major universe shattering plot points.
@janpiorko3809
@janpiorko3809 3 жыл бұрын
@Mikhail G Phantom Menace is great.
@briancain7544
@briancain7544 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to point out how all writers should needless dwell on character deaths in every edgy fiction. The only thing a writer needs to do is simply copy-past the 7 stages of grief to pad the run time, even when the audience knows that character is going to be resurrected or secretly alive! That's always a necessary story ark!
@kingsleycy3450
@kingsleycy3450 3 жыл бұрын
Bonus point if said character was never really that important in the story.
@snekysneks
@snekysneks 3 жыл бұрын
I'm worried that might give the character characterization, so make sure the grieving is as shallow and drawn out as possible to counteract any possible unintended characterization.
@SkittlesInYourHand
@SkittlesInYourHand 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingsleycy3450 The best characters are the ones who never contributed anything meaningful except dying for someone else's arch
@thepanzerofthelake732
@thepanzerofthelake732 2 жыл бұрын
I have this character in my books who dies literally every book and is explained to be so genius that he has a cult of people that are so obsessed with him that if you were to enter said cult that everyone would look like him and try their best to act like him... So no one not even the cult members know who the real one is except for the actual guy himself and so whenever he dies they protagonists lose more and more sanity and straight up begin to believe that the antagonist is actually a God and that they've been fighting an immortal man the entire time to the point where the Main Character's lover commits suicide from fear of them actually challenging a God... The first guy that died was the original
@cat_bag_cat_bag
@cat_bag_cat_bag Жыл бұрын
BOOK NAME, NOW!!!!
@curtiszilla9192
@curtiszilla9192 5 ай бұрын
Gege akutami followed this to a tee 😭
@simphiwemohanoe4870
@simphiwemohanoe4870 Ай бұрын
Wrong-ish
@shrekatemyonions
@shrekatemyonions 3 жыл бұрын
“The bullet only grazed his forehead because he was looking up!”
@yahyachothia
@yahyachothia 3 жыл бұрын
Code Geass.
@comicsans1689
@comicsans1689 3 жыл бұрын
Steins;Gate 0 when they tried baiting a Mayuri death at the end of one of the episodes, but the next episode revealed that the bullet grazed her head. Steins;Gate 0 honestly follows too much of the bad writing advice from these videos.
@gab3926
@gab3926 3 жыл бұрын
@@comicsans1689 wait, when does that happen? I've only played the visual novel so maybe it's an anime only thing or a route I didn't get?
@thedoubting2290
@thedoubting2290 3 жыл бұрын
so its my fallout character
@leonardorivelorivelo9253
@leonardorivelorivelo9253 3 жыл бұрын
*MUHAMED AVDOL!*
@helena_8478
@helena_8478 3 жыл бұрын
Why J.P. was brought bac: His stories were so awful that they kicked him out of hell.
@Pajali
@Pajali 3 жыл бұрын
They realized letting JP in meant admitting the entire cast of his video sponsor skits. 😂
@StephenGillie
@StephenGillie 3 жыл бұрын
He was going to get A/C installed down there, so he had to be sent back here.
@nukiradio
@nukiradio 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible dying advice
@nenzothefirst4712
@nenzothefirst4712 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm new here. Who is JP lol
@helena_8478
@helena_8478 3 жыл бұрын
@@nenzothefirst4712 The guy making the videos.
@jaredparks4713
@jaredparks4713 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite is when the love interest finally starts being an active force in the story, only for her to get kidnapped and killed off, but then the DLC brings her back in a stupid and overly complicated way that requires a pointless sacrifice of the main character! I may or may not have been greatly disappointed by the ending of KH3.
@MrAuthor3DS
@MrAuthor3DS 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't we already see Kairi alive and Sora fading in vanilla KH3's ending?
@kit-katsforlife7436
@kit-katsforlife7436 2 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question but what the _fuck_ is the DLC???
@TimeNVoid
@TimeNVoid 2 жыл бұрын
@@kit-katsforlife7436 downloadable content
@lordanubis1458
@lordanubis1458 Жыл бұрын
I thought you were talking about "Awakening" until I saw love interest...
@MahouShoujo-Studios
@MahouShoujo-Studios 3 жыл бұрын
Gay Character: Exists. Author: Tis but a plot device!
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
*Tis
@MahouShoujo-Studios
@MahouShoujo-Studios 3 жыл бұрын
@@skilerketchum6633 I didn't even notice that at first lol.
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 3 жыл бұрын
Most writers today are trying not to kill off gays...unless they want Twitter to eat them alive.
@MahouShoujo-Studios
@MahouShoujo-Studios 3 жыл бұрын
@@canaisyoung3601 I didn't mention killing. Usually, gay people are there to add "representation" or hindered the plot in some way like being the sassy gay friend who pushes the usually female lead to be confident or to be a shoulder to cry on.
@noldorwarrior7791
@noldorwarrior7791 3 жыл бұрын
I think the only good gay character ive seen, was someone from Fallout New Vegas i think. He's gay but his life or character didnt revolve about being gay. I would never know he was gay if i didnt ask him.
@fatman80000
@fatman80000 3 жыл бұрын
Hero: sniff, my love is gone! All I have left are her shoes that conveniently washed ashore.... Hero's Love: Hero! Sorry for being late. Some idiot stole my shoes, and why are you holding them?
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
*more awkward if the Hero is WEARING them when she walks up*
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Mantooth well those red shows were really stylish and I thought she wouldn’t need them anymore. And look at how well they complete my bikini armor outfit.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankwest5388 *besides, i feel sooo pretty wearing them*
@absolite6
@absolite6 3 жыл бұрын
Reader: I like this character Writer: *About that.....*
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
two words: Andrew Hussie
@kizilm5315
@kizilm5315 3 жыл бұрын
*Araki killed my cherry boi*
@SkulCat
@SkulCat 2 жыл бұрын
conny:
@namkwal4605
@namkwal4605 2 жыл бұрын
average danganronpa related thing ever
@dereenaldoambun9158
@dereenaldoambun9158 Жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners be like: It's killin' time!
@artilleryman895
@artilleryman895 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to maximize your kill count is to write a random name then add "is killed" after said name. Rinse and repeat. Or if you're lazy just say everyone died
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
your comment was so cool Andrew Hussie used it
@KingKayro87
@KingKayro87 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite story of all time uses the "everyone died" ending, and it's the most touching and moving story ever. "Once there was an ugly barnacle. He was so ugly that everyone died. The end."
@oruanmoraes
@oruanmoraes 2 жыл бұрын
Chainsaw man memories...
@alexgoncharov6430
@alexgoncharov6430 3 жыл бұрын
“They’re eating sir Redshirt. And then they’re going to eat me. Oh my goooooood!” lol
@angelsartandgaming
@angelsartandgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Bonus points: Have a fan favorite character die. That fan favorite character is taking too much time away from your awesome main character!
@kaexewires7531
@kaexewires7531 3 жыл бұрын
Camila cuevas: WRITE THAT DOWN- *WRITE THAT DOWN!!*
@guynamedrick4419
@guynamedrick4419 3 жыл бұрын
Daisy and Waluigi sorta have the same treatment.
@arcticfox4013
@arcticfox4013 3 жыл бұрын
Rwby be like
@cqbjones4861
@cqbjones4861 3 жыл бұрын
Arctic Fox RIP Torchwick
@Cryodrakon2
@Cryodrakon2 2 ай бұрын
Gojo
@fcold9402
@fcold9402 3 жыл бұрын
Always subvert expectations....especially if the audience is expecting the story to be good, or make sense, or follow the rules of the universe previously established by better writers.
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael 3 жыл бұрын
You heard that, Rian?
@WasaboDuckBoy
@WasaboDuckBoy 3 жыл бұрын
PanaMoment get over it
@FraserSouris
@FraserSouris 3 жыл бұрын
@@odiadordeisrael In his case, he actually used it to further the story and characters. That's what the whole point is
@leandersearle5094
@leandersearle5094 3 жыл бұрын
@@FraserSouris No one knew Luke died. Rose's sister wasn't even given a name. What exactly was her death's effect on Rose? Or would she have taken all of those actions even if her sister was still alive?
@FraserSouris
@FraserSouris 3 жыл бұрын
@@leandersearle5094 Everybody saw that Luke died after trolling the entire FO to give hope to the resistence. As for Rose's sister, we didn't need her to be fleshed out more. Rose already had a character journey to be on.
@symphonyspeed3226
@symphonyspeed3226 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, I can't bring myself to kill any of my characters cause I'm attached to all of then :“)
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, where do you post stories? 😇
@keithjohnson3277
@keithjohnson3277 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@TheMoistestNugget
@TheMoistestNugget 3 жыл бұрын
aw
@cass6082
@cass6082 2 жыл бұрын
Good, thank you
@ender4344
@ender4344 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly haha!
@lorieslori8051
@lorieslori8051 3 жыл бұрын
I have mad respect for Infinity Train creators to actually have the balls to kill off unexpected characters and have their deaths have impact
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is the closest that J.P. has EVER DANCED to actually discussing those internet culture wars that he likes to avoid so much. Well played J.P., well played good sir. Also, what about diminishing casts of ensemble characters, be it in reality show stories or flat out death games like Danganronpa?
@nb5437
@nb5437 3 жыл бұрын
In stories where everyone is eliminated one-by-one, you should absolutely take one or two "main" characters out fairly early on. This will increase the stakes and establish the game's ruthlessness.
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 3 жыл бұрын
NB That’s an interesting idea. So take out that one jerk character that everyone knows will survive longer because jerks make good drama, early on? Boy what a twist that would be.
@finaldusk1821
@finaldusk1821 3 жыл бұрын
Danganronpa is actually a great case study in "how to aggressively kill your characters and (mostly) not screw it up". Arguably its most effective tactic is giving screen/page time and development to all the characters throughout the story. This uses the audience's growing investment in the remaining characters to make up for the diminishing shock factor, thereby allowing later deaths hurt just as much as the early ones.
@finaldusk1821
@finaldusk1821 3 жыл бұрын
@Elalae La That can certainly help by adding a last minute cherry on the cake, but It's very difficult to rush audience investment in what is essentially an emotionally charged info-dump. The best deaths in the series were typically those that made us care about the characters long before we realised that they weren't going to survive the game.
@N12015
@N12015 3 жыл бұрын
Do it like that game everybody talked about in june: Kill everyone except the main villain and the protagonist, without giving the former a real redemption plot because that require effort. The more unlikable the villain the better this technique will work... But seriously, most of the time an expected and logical plot is the best option by far. Trying to subvert expectations is rarely a good idea.
@eternalreality3260
@eternalreality3260 3 жыл бұрын
"The proper way to thin out their cast faster than you can say [I'm not referencing that game]" Just watch Danganronpa. They're really good at killing off characters.... *hastily.*
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
and homestuck
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 жыл бұрын
Demon Slayer is good at killing off potential characters!
@m.s.5370
@m.s.5370 3 жыл бұрын
Thrills! Chills! Kills!
@youraverageloser9711
@youraverageloser9711 3 жыл бұрын
*A BODY HAS BEEN DISCOVERED*
@user-hl4xd4tb5w
@user-hl4xd4tb5w 3 жыл бұрын
@nameless one if you're talking about the normal v3 ending, then you are actually wrong. There are 3 survivors in the 'good ending' wich is shown in the epilogue, while in the bad ending where you vote for someone you're presumably the only survivor even though we never saw that. The closest thing to a killing game with no survivors is the student council killing game where even though there's one survivor, they die like a month later so everyone who participated in the killing game is dead.
@cass6082
@cass6082 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly actively avoid books that look like they’re going to kill off characters randomly. Pointless and badly written character deaths are the only thing that have really made me rage-quit a book, not out of sadness for the death but out of eye-rolling frustration and aggression. I really wish that people wouldn’t kill off a character unless it’s strictly plot-necessary or narratively makes sense. And for the love of all that is good please don’t follow the advice of those “kill your darlings” posts because I honestly don’t know any real-life reader (as in not user Bakugosnipples69 who assures you they will read your book if you include it) who would actively enjoy reading or engaging with a plot that includes some of that advice
@lucassanchez9050
@lucassanchez9050 3 жыл бұрын
Never has anything made me more confident as a writer as looking at the death pyramid and realizing how much i throw it out the window
@deadlockraven1849
@deadlockraven1849 3 жыл бұрын
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm more interested in the sponser war now.
@romansrevengethethirdstrik8086
@romansrevengethethirdstrik8086 3 жыл бұрын
The terrible writing advice expanded universe (trademark) is quite the show.
@mrtalos
@mrtalos 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure JP will mind that the section that earns him money is the part people want to watch. It will enable him to demand more.
@kieyvsquared6817
@kieyvsquared6817 3 жыл бұрын
All according to JP's plan
@jamoecw
@jamoecw 3 жыл бұрын
yeah the sponsor war stuff at the end is nearly always good. some videos it is just as good as the main video, other times it is better.
@dest2118
@dest2118 3 жыл бұрын
“Highly recommend murdering off a female love interest in a way so brutal that it will cost me as revenue to describe” this is the moment when the vid sent my sides to shadow realms
@GPhipps
@GPhipps 3 жыл бұрын
Puple realm.
@patrickflying17
@patrickflying17 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if he was refering to that Berserk book about Gundairs back story.
@marley7868
@marley7868 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickflying17 to be fair thats like the 3rd worst fate berserk gives people 2nd being slower and 1st being guts
@lmao2302
@lmao2302 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickflying17 I was thinking about that time in Re:zero when Rem got kinda forced to play twister
@mdstreeter1460
@mdstreeter1460 3 жыл бұрын
With the fridge reference it seems more like he's referencing an old Green Lantern comic from the late 90s where they killed off Kyle Rayner's girlfriend and then shoved her in a fridge for him to discover. It's an infamous moment in comics history, even non-GL-fans know of it.
@Anonymos185
@Anonymos185 3 жыл бұрын
4:35 Actually no. For this particular piece of brilliant writing advice, you probably want a female protagonist, who loses her loved on in the begininng, because we all know that nothing motivates and liberates a woman more than losing her man. All of your Sarah Connor's and Brides out there
@4everbuffylover
@4everbuffylover 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Determined Widow. A wonderful trope
@cat_bag_cat_bag
@cat_bag_cat_bag Жыл бұрын
Crimson witch of flames....
@mishapurser7542
@mishapurser7542 3 жыл бұрын
The "small backwater church in Minnesota is the only true religion" bit made me laugh out loud XD
@foodistgavrilo6636
@foodistgavrilo6636 Жыл бұрын
What church is he referring to
@mattmorehouse9685
@mattmorehouse9685 6 ай бұрын
Dang the Catholic's be really put out by that. "You mean we've been eating these crackers and drinking this wine for nothing?"
@dontstealmydiamondsv3156
@dontstealmydiamondsv3156 3 жыл бұрын
6:36 Also consider having the dying characters last words cut off just as they're about to reveal an important plot detail
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
@shytendeakatamanoir9740 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you killed a character that have outlived its usefulness, but it turns out it may have been useful for that cool scene you just thought off. But don't fear! You can just replace it with a look alike that have none of the audience's investment and character interaction (though that can be solved by retconning them into the plot. Fans will love it.). See, it's great because it adds more characters to your already bloated story, which means more diversity.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
*Primary Uber Antagonist to expendable temp henchmen: You idiot...you've just killed off the comic relief's stunt double....ZAPPERS!!!*
@CoqueiroLendario
@CoqueiroLendario 3 жыл бұрын
...this is EXACTLY why i despise the later parts of homestuck. They did EXACTLY that.
@Duskztar
@Duskztar 3 жыл бұрын
N from Death Note lmao
@floydlooney6837
@floydlooney6837 3 жыл бұрын
Introducing the evil clones in Chapter 12 and then never to be mentioned again, will definitely fly with the readers
@denniswilliams6519
@denniswilliams6519 3 жыл бұрын
Aw Sabo. Yes how to take one of the few actual deaths in the series handled well and just make it all but meaningless.
@speedshoes29
@speedshoes29 3 жыл бұрын
Did you forget the fakeout, which only builds the emotion of a character dead, but isn't really dead?
@rphb5870
@rphb5870 Жыл бұрын
Okay here is an idea. What about making "death" the protagonist, but instead of having him run around with a scythe, to symbolise him harvesting souls because people used scythes for that in the old day, He instead drives around in the sky on a modern combine harvester?
@RoyalFlush270
@RoyalFlush270 3 жыл бұрын
Rename this to "How to write for 'The Walking Dead' & 'Game of Thrones'" I swear those 2 alone have numbed me to character deaths in fiction entirely
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
wait till you read homestuck
@Wveth
@Wveth 3 жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones only started doing it poorly after season 5 and The Walking was pretty smart about it at first too, but it started fucking it up sooner.
@enskje
@enskje 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wveth Game of Thrones kills characters right in the first chapter, just like the video suggested!
@Andrewtr6
@Andrewtr6 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wveth the walking dead has spared more characters than the comics did. A few characters who did in the show but not the comics only did because the actors wanted out.
@liamcannon945
@liamcannon945 3 жыл бұрын
Wait till you hear about Warrior Cats
@meryarcus4699
@meryarcus4699 3 жыл бұрын
I love how there's a narrative to the terrible advice now
@tuskinekinase
@tuskinekinase 3 жыл бұрын
There are more narrative in TWA than in some published novels
@meryarcus4699
@meryarcus4699 3 жыл бұрын
@@tuskinekinase true.
@azekia
@azekia 3 жыл бұрын
Or is there?
@jameshart2622
@jameshart2622 3 жыл бұрын
All according to plan!
@doomyboi
@doomyboi 3 жыл бұрын
Bet you anything there's a worldanvil or some other fanwiki up detailing all of the deep TWA lore in the works
@brleise2942
@brleise2942 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important/best killing off a character trope! You don't! You set up a character death scene, where something happens where a character should die, like a sacrifice scenario, but then at the last moment they are saved or even better yet they just survived it. How did they survive, you ask? Who cares! We should just be glad they are alive, its even better when you do it multiple times, the audience is always surprised when the a character lives instead of dies, how could they possible predict it? Will not killing off your character horribly impact your story, of course not, it doesn't remove any dramatic tension or feelings you had for the character in any way, especially upon rewatch/reread. Thus the best way to handle death is to pretend he doesn't exist, your audience will thank you later.
@paulstillman4949
@paulstillman4949 2 жыл бұрын
Then there's the opposite extreme where characters just won't die no matter how badly they are injured *cough* Oda *cough*
@Lemitutu
@Lemitutu 3 жыл бұрын
Before you kill the character make sure he has reached or about to reach an important goal. Like for example the character just got married or the character its about get his freedom.
@Iron_Gov
@Iron_Gov 3 жыл бұрын
He was only one day away from retirement
@Lemitutu
@Lemitutu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Iron_Gov that fall into the about to get his freedom category. 😆
@firenze6478
@firenze6478 3 жыл бұрын
finlayjohnston9 so he’s got early retirement.
@travissmith2848
@travissmith2848 3 жыл бұрын
Hot Shots' Dead Meat comes to mind........
@johncjr1399
@johncjr1399 3 жыл бұрын
homie was talking about eating pizza, going back to school in italy, and meeting his friend again after he beats the boss of an organization until he got impaled on an iron-bar fence
@JDonaldBin
@JDonaldBin 3 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting the reveal that they were alive the entire time
@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838
@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 3 жыл бұрын
*cough cough* Avdol *cough cough*
@MrDalisclock
@MrDalisclock 3 жыл бұрын
And.......Big Boss
@nonsmarts660
@nonsmarts660 3 жыл бұрын
XENOBLADE CHRONICLES SPOILERS ngl I was pretty happy when it turned out fiora was alive all along
@JoaoPedro-yt7eo
@JoaoPedro-yt7eo 3 жыл бұрын
@@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 "the bullet grazed me"
@wppb50
@wppb50 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's functionally identical to an instant resurrection; while it's different diagetically, from a writing standpoint, the character is functionally dead until they aren't any more. They aren't part of the plot until the resurrection/reveal and all the other characters in the story act as though they're dead. It gets you out of having to explain how and why the pearly gates have a revolving door installed, but naratively it comes to the same thing. (That's unless you have the characters acknowledge in-universe that, for a certain class of person, a fall from a great height is just a minor inconvenience.)
@willsith9762
@willsith9762 2 жыл бұрын
Watching these is always a tossup between "Am I safe?" or "Maybe it's not *that* bad..."
@darienb1127
@darienb1127 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to add that in the event of a charatcer death, any charatcer that knows healing and resurrection magic will just totally forget they can cast it! After all, healing magic can only be used in a big fight scene! It's like plot armor, but the opposite!
@Arrow8070
@Arrow8070 2 жыл бұрын
I propose it to be called plot guillotine. All in favour?
@lordanubis1458
@lordanubis1458 Жыл бұрын
I think "Final Fantasy V" has a very good example of this as one of the 4 party members dies and the survivors try using everything from Phoenix Downs to potions in a desperate attempt to revive them, but with no success.
@AstralMarmot
@AstralMarmot 3 жыл бұрын
As one of the aforementioned minority audience members, it's really the lack of thought that counts.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
*more than enough reason to never volunteer or be very reluctant or wary for anything that requires wearing a red shirt*
@stefanwalicord2512
@stefanwalicord2512 3 жыл бұрын
Astral marmots are underrepresented in mentor death scenes imho
@wraithwyvern528
@wraithwyvern528 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually most new stories probably will only have characters from one particular demographic because that's pretty much the only way to actually avoid backlash from some blue checks on twitter with any certainty, but they'll probably still find a way to complain. Hell just look at how many Netflix shows just straight up only focus on a particular demographic.
@AstralMarmot
@AstralMarmot 3 жыл бұрын
@@wraithwyvern528 There are plenty of books and movies by minority authors that do not have this issue - and plenty of books and movies with all-white casts that still contain racist elements. Literary segregation is a band-aid over the real problem; and that will only be solved by some deep societal soul-searching and the willingness to abandon ways of thinking that reinforce inequity. That's a much harder ask that "well let's just never write about it", but it is the only way we'll uproot the toxic mindset that leads to tokenizing.
@r3dp9
@r3dp9 3 жыл бұрын
​@@AstralMarmot Although literary diversity is a good thing in theory, in practice it can backfire. Simple example: Harry Potter is a series about an all white cast of british kids. Not a single drop of diversity, unless you count gingers. Does this mean JK Rowling is racist? No, it does not. JK Rowling lives a life surrounded by all white people, so she doesn't know how to write diverse characters WITHOUT relying on cliches (aka racism). She wisely chose to write what she knew, and keep her nose out of things she didn't know. In fact, she wrote quite a bit about class and wealth divisions in a constructive way. She is in no way at fault for not having room in her book (or her personal life) for studying each of the five LGBTQ genders, all 5 skin colors (black/yellow/red/brown/white), and all 300+ disenfranchised ethnicities that colonial Britain oppressed throughout history. Sensitivity towards minority issues is not a matter of "soul searching as a society", it is a matter of absurd levels of the study and pandering of groups that are, by definition, too rare to find in your average day to day life. I say it's enough to be generically kind to everybody. That way, I don't have to bother with understanding much less noticing racial and ethnic divisions. That's what TRUE equity looks like. Anyone who asks for more than that isn't after EQUITY. Keeping track of multigenerational greivances ends up causing more problems than it solves. Just look at the middle east. THAT'S where the "equality" movement is headed, which is ironic as that place is the exact OPPOSITE of equal.
@madtoffelpremium8324
@madtoffelpremium8324 3 жыл бұрын
Mentor: The exposition dumped him I'm dead!
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
*time to update the 'ole resume' again*
@paintingomelette5840
@paintingomelette5840 3 жыл бұрын
Danganronpa be like: I dont care just make everybody die
@corryjamieson3909
@corryjamieson3909 2 жыл бұрын
That is very inaccurate, its 50/50.
@paintingomelette5840
@paintingomelette5840 2 жыл бұрын
@@corryjamieson3909 its a joke- but understandable
@stanmarshmellowz
@stanmarshmellowz 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior Cats writers and fanfic writers: *n e r v o u s s w e a t i n g*
@mutantmaster1
@mutantmaster1 3 жыл бұрын
Top Priority: if it's the serries finale, don't forget to add so much Character Death and Plot Twists to the last few episode that it invalidates all the character developments that has happened in the past 5+ seasons
@arte0021
@arte0021 3 жыл бұрын
Just have a giant monster erupt out of the ground killing every single main character.
@mckaylamarille8630
@mckaylamarille8630 3 жыл бұрын
*Cough cough* Game of Thrones *Cough cough cough*
@gustavferreira627
@gustavferreira627 3 жыл бұрын
@@mckaylamarille8630 Here's some water. It'll help.
@mckaylamarille8630
@mckaylamarille8630 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavferreira627 Thanks.
@gustavferreira627
@gustavferreira627 3 жыл бұрын
@@mckaylamarille8630 You're welcome.
@crazyeeveelady3636
@crazyeeveelady3636 3 жыл бұрын
*Every modern Magical Girl Anime With a Twist has left the chat*
@rainierdanredondo1278
@rainierdanredondo1278 3 жыл бұрын
Homura (PMMM): (resets timeline again)
@june9914
@june9914 3 жыл бұрын
Pmmm as great as it is has nearly singlehandedly warped the public perception on tropes in magical girls Which does make watching sailor moon an interesting experience as everything is played straight and earnestly
@bendumpaccount574
@bendumpaccount574 3 жыл бұрын
Sleepless domain
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 3 жыл бұрын
@@june9914 It's kind of crazy when you think about it. Imagine if School Days had become so popular that it became the standard for every harem anime since lmfao
@sxwriter8569
@sxwriter8569 3 жыл бұрын
Precure doesn’t do that.
@Zealous_Delusional
@Zealous_Delusional 2 жыл бұрын
It was such a minor part of the video but I now need a story where a villain corrupted by evil is genuinely redeemed but is stuck in their eldritch horror form, just havin’ a beer with the boys.
@TheTimidon
@TheTimidon 3 жыл бұрын
Love this series, I myself am new at writing and enjoying your take on this. Reminds me of the 100 things not to do as a Evil Overlord.
@williamgeorge3111
@williamgeorge3111 3 жыл бұрын
It's now FAR more than 100.
@guilhermeribeiro402
@guilhermeribeiro402 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the moment when the killed villain get resurrected, and stronger.
@christhechilled
@christhechilled 3 жыл бұрын
Gill from Street Fighter Three
@csona4030
@csona4030 3 жыл бұрын
Palpatine in disney star wars
@guilhermeribeiro402
@guilhermeribeiro402 3 жыл бұрын
I mean every JRPG final boss, and some anime villains.
@SrPaisano
@SrPaisano 3 жыл бұрын
Frieza in Dragon ball Z, twice
@highadmiraljt5853
@highadmiraljt5853 3 жыл бұрын
@@csona4030 Palpatine in all Star Wars, even before Disney he got brought back with what’s basically the Death Star on a star destroyer.
@popstarchamp
@popstarchamp 3 жыл бұрын
Continuity: (exists) Time Travel: Allow me introduce myself. Hey, J.P. should do an episode on time travel to help authors construct the PERFECT time travel plot.😁
@LendriMujina
@LendriMujina 3 жыл бұрын
...considering the _real_ JP actually has published time travel stories before, I would say he's uniquely qualified to do that. That's a good idea.
@leandersearle5094
@leandersearle5094 3 жыл бұрын
@@LendriMujina I'm from the future. No, but he'll do it anyways.
@travissmith2848
@travissmith2848 3 жыл бұрын
Normal JP: The number one rule about time travel stories: ignore all the implications except the ones you think will make good drama points, but even then only follow them through on the one or two drama points you have in mind. "Good guy JP": Well..... actually, he has a point there. Time travel can be so complicated that it quickly becomes impossible to follow all possible ramifications through. But, do try to keep the rules for time travel in your universe consistent. Nothing breaks the illusion faster than inconsistent application of the rules.
@TheMamaluigi300
@TheMamaluigi300 3 жыл бұрын
Travis Smith Pffft, the only illusion we need is the depth of our character development
@conspiracypanda1200
@conspiracypanda1200 3 жыл бұрын
Step 1: always make sure your time travel rules are consistent... Just like the Terminator series! Terminator movies _always_ stay consistent with how _their_ time travel works and how it affects the future!
@the_dogfish
@the_dogfish 3 жыл бұрын
Dont you just love it when the main character falls in love with a character who wasn't even important and had barely any lines before dying horribly, and then goes on and starts appearing the main character's dreams as a ghost, luring him away from his actual wife and responsibilities and it gets so bad that the decide to kill her ghost so Firestar will stop thinking about hecking Spottedleaf and actually remember that Sandstorm even exists!!!!!!!!
@cameronharding2878
@cameronharding2878 10 ай бұрын
Looks like someone has a grudge 🤨
@Solishida
@Solishida 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a book I read when literary ALL the characters die except 2 and they happen just to be love interests but not in a good way because it’s a dark book. Oh, and you get emotional attached to all the characters so when they die you cry for *hours on end-*
@skilerketchum6633
@skilerketchum6633 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh, and you get emotional attached to all the characters so when they die you cry for *hours on end-* " Boy have you read Homestuck.
@sneefinsnorfintime
@sneefinsnorfintime 3 жыл бұрын
please tell me what book it is. I wanna cry for funsies.
@aidanaylward9237
@aidanaylward9237 2 жыл бұрын
@@sneefinsnorfintime I think they're talking about hunger games
@theatheistpaladin
@theatheistpaladin 3 жыл бұрын
+5 nerd points awarded for the Goblins 2 reference. Disclaimer: Nerd points are not redeemable for any good or service that is real, digital, or imagined.
@rockyfalldownstairs
@rockyfalldownstairs 3 жыл бұрын
I accept nerd points for mmorpg items.
@theatheistpaladin
@theatheistpaladin 3 жыл бұрын
@@rockyfalldownstairs *REPEAT* Disclaimer: Nerd points are not redeemable for any good or service that is real, digital, or imagined.
@11th-lemon
@11th-lemon 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean trolls 2?
@rockyfalldownstairs
@rockyfalldownstairs 3 жыл бұрын
TheAtheistPaladin You want gold trimmed rune armor for 50 nerd points?
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 3 жыл бұрын
@@theatheistpaladin No no, I'm pretty sure nerd points can be redeemed for plot bricks and character bricks.
@nerdprjncessshortsandstrea7843
@nerdprjncessshortsandstrea7843 3 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot the comic book version of resurrection, where they didn’t really die at all and it was all part of some overly complex plan or some unbelievably lucky circumstance they had no way of knowing would occur.
@CarrotConsumer
@CarrotConsumer 3 жыл бұрын
Or in fantasy novels. "they aren't dead because magic!"
@lyrasteiner561
@lyrasteiner561 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarrotConsumer they're always like "pfft you thought I DIED? I'm too magical and crafty to die"
@travissmith2848
@travissmith2848 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but heroes tend to come back unscathed (though may suffer the occasional bout of amnesia) and villains horribly disfigured and even more insane. Syndrome is not dead, just thrown into the future by a power vortex created by his zero-point energy boots encountering the spinning blades of the jet. He was, however, horribly mutilated and is now convinced that Jack-Jack really is his son. We also encounter the man behind the power who funded the high power lawyers that were able to sue someone for saving a life in an attempted suicide as well as gave the then Buddy Pines the startup capitol to make his fortune.
@megatron8561
@megatron8561 3 жыл бұрын
That is literally what happens in a story im working on they didn't flipping die, they were just badly injured and survived
@RC15O5
@RC15O5 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a part from the Robot Chicken DC comics special. "Green Arrow? Didn't you die horribly?" "Yes, but I found this magic amulet!"
@historicstudios2708
@historicstudios2708 3 жыл бұрын
Audience: we love this character Developers: *cocks pistol*
@m.s.5370
@m.s.5370 3 жыл бұрын
Minority character: *exists* Author: *your free trial of living has expired*
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