No matter how unlikable the rival is its ALWAYS shipped

Yep!

Honestly a lot of the times with the heavily shipped ones there's some damn good reasons for that lol. I wonder when real writers will actually try this.

That’s why naruto works!

Knoxville Craggins The screenwriters for the Star Wars sequels seem to be trying it with Kylo and Rey. Frankly, that's the only good idea they've had in the whole trilogy.

Reading that, I could see the mouth movements in my mind

666melodeath666 *Deku*

canada?

GRIFFITH!!

**KAKAROT!**

There are some good shounen rivals

That trope was pioneered by the likes of Vegeta and Sasuke.

HERPy derpy Sasuke popularized it due to how perfectly he fits the role, but he didn’t pioneer it

Java 1.1 Hmm, true. They didn’t pioneer it. I’ll say that Vegeta and Sasuke popularized that trope in shounen anime.

HERPy derpy Sasuke is the most prominent example in the US, but in Japan it’s clear that Sasuke was inspired by Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho.

Fokin Gary

And complain at every story requires lose while still acting like such a hot shot. Or not even be a rival anymore and just be a dueling partner who’s also going on the players journey

@Gabriel 2020 if you lose to your rival because you didn't master the art of full restores you deserve to be called a loser

@Gabriel 2020 good ol' times when you would beat you rival with so difficulty that you killed the raticate of your friend

Actually trainers Red and Blue wonderfully fit with this video! They're just the opposite of each other... and since Pokémon was a game series destined to kids, Blue looks more like the classical school bully.

CruelestChris Inconsistency is JP's best friend

I thought that his best friend was the love triangle?

His best friends are inconsistency AND the love triangle and he just can't decide between them!

CruelestChris He can't be damadged. He's a thought being his INNER critic

CruelestChris A love triangle within a love triangle. Is that a love nonagon, or a love triangular prism?

BAWHAHAHAAW!

Don't try it!

As a web writter for 4 years i can say i did It only one time and even forgotten It was a cliche, i kinda surprised that i completely forgotten the love triangle.

@@legrandliseurtri7495 ohoho if I will bring a love tryangle in my story >:)

From my point of view, good writing is evil!

Why do you think they brought Palpatine back and killed Hux? After TLJ neither Hux nor Kylo are intimidating at all.

@@luizfelipevbf5567 Kylo hasn't been intimidating since The Force Awakens, where our hero, who'd never held a sword, much less a lightsaber, before schools our big bad villain, a trained warrior, in a one-on-one swordfight. TLJ and RotP just cement that he's not intimidating due to him repeatedly getting beaten and humiliated by our heroes.

More like Cry-lo Ren (Hardy har har). Seriously, that guy is just a Darth-Vader wannabe. Lamest Star Wars villain of all time.

Vader kept losing, too. Ep III: gets his limbs cut off and left for dead by Obi-Wan. Forced to become a cyborg abomination. Rogue One: kills some rebels, but fails to stop the plans being given to Leia and the Tantive IV escaping Scariff. Ep IV: fails to stop Leia's plan to get the DS schematics to Obi-Wan. Fails to actually defeat Obi-Wan (Ben let him kill him, and even then, Ben became one with the Force). Failed to stop Luke blowing up the Death Star. Ep V: fails to convince Luke to join him and fails to stop the Falcon's escape. Ep VI: fails to turn Luke (again) and is defeated in lightsaber combat by Luke. Ultimately defeated by Anakin reasserting his Light Side. Tell me again how he was a rival badass? I'll wait.

@@scottgaultney on the bright side he's the only character that had any semblance of a character arc and was probably the only consistent thing throughout the trilogy.

YA?

kapitan komatii.videos YA= Young Adult. Fiction aimed at young adults and teens must have an obligatory love triangles regardless of story. The story could be set in a distopic 3rd world hellhole with vampire zombies terrorizing the land and they still will be talking 90% about their crush on the boy the like or something

@@XYZBlaster ah ok, i mostly read sailing novels,

@@valhatan3907 thats why I loved Six of crows, no romance until the very end, no love triangles

Iker Maldonado and then there’s Shadow and Bone. Leigh Bardugo really changed.

too meta now if you excuse me I'm going back to reality *literally breaks 4th wall*

That is what adds to their dynamics. I wish the Inner Critic was female so the rival can play into gender stereotyping. :D

I liked his delivery

Also if you notice IC’s background is clean and straight, while, TWA’s background is blobs floating in random patterns

@@permafrost8322 That makes perfect sense. I bet That's how their brains work.

no there's just a group of people who show up everywhere

they are

333

It's over 9000!

It gets old kinda quick

Oh no

ummm....guilty lol

We wouldn't dare...

In Harry Potter Hero: Black hair, Green eyes Rival: Blonde Hair, Grey eyes *Malfoy* : I am better than you *Harry* : How? *Malfoy* : I have Tom Felton, I cried in the bathroom once, I tried to crucio you but the movies LOVE me so they left that, and you did sectumsempra, jerk! I have more fangirls and also, I have more FaNfIcTiOn, I am a 'bad boy' and I am more good looking, people ship me with Hermione, an Apple, Pansy Astoria etc *Harry* : tf Hermione hates you *Malfoy* : They also ship me with YOU *Harry* : ...............

HOLY SHIT ITS DI RAVELLO FROM JUST CAUSE 3!

Hahaha *no* Miraculous Ladybug has a love _dodecahedron_

@@geniusgamer3840 [insert Love Myriagon]

@@elementalsgami1 lOvE GiGaGOn

That one's so accurate 😂

Love hexagon To solve this matter, I unironically ship Lukadrigaminette

No, [character] is non relatable to me. Therefore, [other character] is obviously better.

Inner Critic speaks a lot in absolutes so every time he speaks I go "Well this isn't true, I've seen this done lots of time" for example... Gundam... The fact that Char can't possibly defeat the hero never becomes an issue. As well the differences in Rivals is one thing, but their similarities can be just as important if not more typically. As well the Rival always losing doesn't mean he isn't taken seriously so long as what had to be done to get the victory is well known.

They need to dbz fuse

Nionivek I mean, both sides do that. Both sides make absolute statements about the best way to write a story.

I understood the inner critic perfectly well in his expression

J Girl the advice is that you do the exact opposite of what he says

J Girl But there's NOOO way that hearing the opposite of something good in a joking tone or manner will let you decipher it's real meaning. That's ABSOLUTELY impossible. No waaayyyyyyy...(wink wink)

I liked the two characters together.

Me too but I think it’s to mock the people in the audience that take TWA seriously

J Girl meh, I actually prefer the more straightforward advice.

That just makes the rival sound extremely petty, vindictive, and childish. It's hard to feel sympathetic for someone who is only evil because he can't accept that somebody is better than him at something. The hero blaming themself for the rival's transformation also makes little sense, because they are not responsible for decisions that someone else willingly made, and their thought process ends up being along the lines of "He couldn't handle my perfection, this is all my fault..." These sorts of stories also tend to end with the rival either being coddled or destroyed. If they are coddled and forgiven, they end up reverting back to their "good" ways, but it doesn't feel deserved because there was no justification for their turn in the first place. If they are destroyed, the hero will feel bad, and that basically ends up being the rival's main contribution to the story: to make the hero feel bad for something they have no reason to feel bad for. Either way, it doesn't actually contribute much to the story, and will leave many people scratching their heads in confusion.

@Darkness Reign Except Vegeta's reasons aren't stupid given the context of his race, upbringing, and the fact he was evil AF from the moment he was introduced. Plus he was never incompetent, the guy was going to kill Goku in their 1st fight. The type of rival the OP brought up and Vegeta are 2 different characters. One is shitty and the other is an Anime icon

@@Former_Halo_Fan THANK U! I hate that shit

@Darkness Reign Vegeta has won before. He completely demolished Goku in their first fight. He literally broke that Man's legs. Remove Krillin and Gohan from the equation and Goku would have died. That's why people take Vegeta seriously because he was a legitimate threat and challenge who could keep up with the protagonist even when it seems like it's impossible to stay in Goku's league. The kind of rival you're defending is a total joke and a perfect example of garbage writing

@Darkness Reign If he doesn't rival the protagonist consistently he isn't a rival to begin with. Just a repetitive nuisance at best and a waste of screen time at worst. Vegeta works as a rival because he is in Goku's ballpark of power 90% of the time.

Oh hi! Love ur vids!

@Tommaso Stefanelli I think the best way to make a character is to simultaneously design all aspects (clothes, personality, abilities, attributes, motives, etc) as you develop the plot......... The problem is that this only works in idealistic situations where everything goes perfectly and there are no needs for revisions mid-way through a project. You can't upscale something that deep in. Some characters are made on a whim. Honestly, just do what comes natural but if you go too far into one extreme, take a step back to evaluate things.

I just switch between character and design as I’m in the creating process.

Me who decides what the character will likely be like as I'm designing them: *UNLIMITED POWAH--*

Well, I wouldn’t say that always applies. C.S. Lewis said the start of his Narnia series began all after he imagined a faun with an umbrella walking in the snow carrying packages by a lantern. And he literally built a whole story and world after imagining that character and scene. My dad says he writes his books the same way. He says he imagines scenes first-for him, he says it’s like watching a movie scene. And then if he loves a scene a lot, he creates a whole story around it gradually. Until it all fits and is good. I think this guy has a video explaining how there’s different types of writers. Those that are more analytical and like to plot out everything. And there’s writers who are “discovery” types who imagine scenes and then work to make a story around the scene that originally inspired them. (And yeah some of the most famous writers are basically the discovery type, J.K. Rowling was the same. She said she imagined a scene (I forget which one) and over time built a story around it. So, yeah, if you’re imagining a very cinematic scene that you think is just great and in that scene it happens to have a character with a design in it-I wouldn’t discard it. Again some of the most beloved stories were inspired in that way. Of course everyone can improve. Good luck.

i hate it the most when they do it when there is not a triangle in the source

Irondrone4 Yes, but do you know that... the triangle is the symbol for the Illuminati. The ever present love triangle is actually a means to subliminally coerce us to love them, therefore submit to them willingly. That's why love triangles are in everything these days. Illuminati confirmed. Also lizard people. Aliens too.

just some creature of this earth Robots as well?

Ultra Riley yes, robots too and they will take over the world, helped by aliens. And chupacabras. But those won't take over the world, they will just suck our blood.

...illuminati confirmed?

Now we just need one more to be the target of their affections and the triangle can be complete!

Nocktuk Daze, Top 10 Anime Crossovers.

Justafan IV it's of course mary sue

Like naruto, or twilight the male actors compensate for kristen stewards lack of, especially when they are in a scen together, when they are supposed to hate each other)

Ned Barks I remember I once wrote a short story (inspired by the Terrible Writing Advice about paranormal romance or whatever it was) where the hopeless romantic vampire and the down-to-earth lumberjack werewolf both grow tired of the can't-make-a-choice-destiny-fate-fairyfluff-bullshit heroine, and decide to ditch her altogether and go kick the dystopian vampire government's ass.

Cewl

either way it's as entertaining as the video itself

I like to imagine the splotches are floating plot holes from previous videos

@@aris1869 HC Accepted!

Honestly one of my favourite video's TWA's done

Ryan Klatt some anime has some really great rivals

A Shonen anime

Melchi qwq There ain’t no rivals in Jojo except Ceasar

Sounds just like Dio vs Jonatham.

paco ramon yeah but dio is more than a rival to Jonathan, he’s more of just The Bad Guy

Pietree lol 😂

Quick, get the love triangle

My only... One of few weakneses! -Dark lands in fantasy worlds -Shity jumpscares - Mean atheists on the internet -Good writing advice - Tickling Rly tho The dark lands one: "HMM where do I want to make my evil empire capital. The elves have a ton of recources to maintain it and the Backstory Ruinland may have a usefull Mcguffin, NAH LESS'GO TO THE WASTELAND! THIS IS A GOOD ECONOMICAL DECISION!!!"

what are these replies?

Greasy Gabe you were right !

Does this mean J.P. is secretly in love with his Inner Critic? His ego really is big.😜

I read this comment right before they started talking about it lol

Greasy Gabe you can't write a story without the love triangle! Blasphemy!

Greasy Gabe, Rival Love Triangles......

Yes ! That's what i am saying.

How?

@@user-pn4ck4nh8n never read enemies to lovers? It is some good stuff when done well

Well it depends on how you write it and how the characters interact with each other (or even with the secondary characters) and bla bla bla

Man, Gray was treated like garbage.

Lol, thats exactly was I thought 30 secs into the Video XD

and Naruto and Sasuke too!

Sara Fontanini Nah. Naruto and Sasuke were actually equals

jamcdonald120 the "fight" natsu had with gray was so disappointing lmao

Justafan IV Probably because other letter can't do that ?

If other letters can't do that, why choose the most obscure one to indicate sleeping sound? Z is really sharp, which isn't something I imagine under the word sleeping. Something like S would be better. It's not as sharp as Z, is more mellow, and still kinda fits the Z theme.

"Because the letter Z vaguely resembles an electrical wave, and humans seen out brainwaves when they sleep."

But humans thik more intensly when they are awake.

Krzysztof Bandyk idk man. Some dude 500 years ago did it, so now we do.

Mario Peach and Bowser

Mario,wario,peach, and browser Know what throw Luigi and daisy in there to

@@jackmakila3776 My favorite villain, Internet Explorer

{cough} Super Princess Peach.

My head cannon for this is that 99% of peaches TOADstool kingdom is toads. The most useless things ever and that's why Mario keeps having to run in. Toads are probably great at peace-activities which is why they keep getting invaded in the first place.

LUCKY THERE ARE THOUSANDS!!!

Man, that's one savage roast

I love how his own characters are annoyed as fuck by the situations he put them in.

Skyrim marriage.

@@shadysam7161 🙄

But what dose JP stand for?

@@connorschultz380 "Joseph Beaubien (J.P Beaubien) the creator of terrible writing advice/Aeon Legion"

@@connorschultz380 Read his book. It's good:)

@Instrumentality1000 why did you reply that to me?

and white shirts stain easier, which also supports him having his flaws on display SYMBOLISM? In TWA canon? Its more likely than you think.

'Naturalistic Storytelling' was covered extremly-well by Hbomberguy in his Video 'RWBY is Dissapointing' starting at Minute 35, proving that Krimson Rogue Fans, Hello Future Me-Fans and Telltale Foundry-Fans should not just obviously check-out each-other (cause the named channel are very similar and all 'smart Fun') but should check out Hbomberguys channel. And heres the craziest thing: i will comment this often under each of these Channels in a vague Hope to spread Fun and share Knowledge, OBVIOUSLY risking to be mistaken for a B0T. Thats how much i love the IDEA that maybe someone gets in love to Literature thx to Me.

@@slevinchannel7589 so you're not a bot.

@@YaBoiDoi Test me.

@@slevinchannel7589 Damn.

@@YaBoiDoi ?

Firock Finion And when the story glosses over the hero weaknesses/selfishness and treats him like a saint no matter what he does

My apologies, unrelated but is that...a slorg?

Reverse Dipper Pines, ah yes, that too. Necroscrow, yes, yes it is. A slorg wearing kamina shades.

Yu-Gi-Oh?

TheSupremeGentlemanAtheist Yu-Gi-Oh season 0 actually explained perfectly why Yugi and Kaiba were both rivals because they were both serial killers all the way back to Ancient Egypt.

sounds more like Fanfictions if you ask me

Griffith likely swings both ways and spares him, and thinks about so go.

Yes, it's perfect yaoi fuel

this is literally just enemies to lovers

If you have ever been in a MHA chat, You will be surprised how much that can escalate

Eemi Seppälä there are some good anime rivals

@@faridaoba Keyword: "so many"

Fairytale is this to a T

but you can with murder

Oops, try again!

JuniperTheSkyWing wanna bet?

Blasphemy!

Try saying that to the hundred of millions of fanfiction...

Paul Smith Yellow! Pink!

Spongebob Squidward

Paul Smith DONKEY

Henry McKnight damn it. Beat me to it.

*WALUIGI TIME*

Yes is becoming worst and worst, from intricate characters, with motives and acutal story, to a bunch of shonen and isekai, even when they try satire of that, fails

Best rivalry ever

That's one of my favorite superhero movies ever.

I love Megamind.

Ah, my favourite movie

The best Disney movie. ;]

"Unless your poor editing skills are at work again"

He's somewhat of a smartass but I still love him

Like him too, lets revive him with the power of fan comments.

I'll get the satanic circles setup!

In a types of stories, like sports dramas, the rival can even be on the same side/in the same team, both for a friendly or antagonistic rivalry even.

Only rival that comes close to that is probably trails of cold steel 2 (with half the plot revolving around the rival character), tho for as long as the games are, they kinda border on not giving the rival enough screentime to understand his motives fully as much as we do the everyman protagonist 😂

@Book Nerd I never actually watched that show(or much of tv, I'm more a gaming oriented fellow, but do that series have a game just curious 😅?)

T-34 was a great example of this. Klaus Jäger was a great rival to Ivushkin. While there was the usual theme of opposites, on a deeper level, both men exist to represent their country. Ivushkin is aggressive, stubborn, and is loyal to both his men and his country to the death. He makes many decisions based on instinct rather than careful, methodical planning. He also doesn't care if he dies, so long as he dies fighting. Basically the quintessential Russian. Jäger, on the other hand is clever, calculating, almost mechanical at times. He never makes any decision without carefully considering and weighing all possible options. He also won't hesitate to take control of the situation when needed, sometimes literally, like when his gunner is wounded and he hops into the gunner's seat himself, and sometimes figuratively, challenging Ivushkin to a duel rather than fighting in the chaotic and winding streets, where Ivushkin has an advantage with his smaller, lighter vehicle and more aggressive nature. That also ties into the other traditionally Germanic aspect of his personality. His sense of honor. Not only did he challenge Ivushkin to a duel to gain an advantage, but also to settle the rivalry that had been going since 1941. The entire reason the movie happened. He couldn't just kill Ivushkin outright, it wouldn't be honorable. No, he had to have a formal challenge

In Pokemon, Ash spent the whole series trying to defeat Gary only to have his ass kicked, each time in a different way.

Nah, if he wrote Naruto, it would have the rival besting the hero constantly until their final battle, which ends in a tie but the rival begrudgingly saying 'you won', which means the hero won even though he didn't.

No, it would be the hero winning sometimes, the rival winning other times, and the author being ambiguous about it other times for the sake of keeping fans happy.

that's talent there...real talent...the power of the love triangle has been thwarted by superior skill and extreme cleverness

This dragonball

Did we watch the same Naruto? I seem to remember Sasuke never acknowledging Naruto as a rival and the necessity for his affection being Naruto's driving force. Naruto becomes more and more powerful because he so desperately wants Sasuke to see him as an equal. At the same time, Sasuke is constantly trying to rival his older brother. In the end, Sasuke finally admits that Naruto is powerful, but still not strong enough and he whoops his ass. Naruto is the protagonist of the story. Naruto is the one chasing after Sasuke, not the other way around.

sladikk you have no idea how many tv shows and movies had used this line.

WE'RE NOTHING ALIKE!

sladikk you have your law degree, and me? i’ve got all this fucking markers

Dorothy Gale what’s jp

@@faridaoba JP. It's his name.

i like his face when he holds up his pen

His phrase to critizice jp editing skills is hillarous.

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association, I liked this Video 4 Times.

My dude, how are you everywhere on KZfaq? First saw you on Hunter x Hunter music, then on political videos, anime reviewers, now here.

Dewayne C I go where ToGODshi guides me

Then again I say this, and i've been called out for being seen everywhere on YT as well loooool.

Dewayne C Yea you're quite prolific yourself XD

Oh boy, Shadow the Hedgehog. Fangirls tend to get sweaty and turned on every time Shadow shows up on screen, despite him being a cartoon hedgehog who resembles Mickey Mouse (i.e., not human). So creepy...

@@TheDr502 I know right

@@randomcringeyyoutuber6750 People just can't get enough of antiheroes.

Sonic is the ultimate life form

@@randomcringeyyoutuber6750 Is Shadow even a good rival?

Please tell me this comment is just a figment of my imagination

@@bloodstoneore4630 it's real

@@bloodstoneore4630 Its real. And you cannot escape from reality, you have to bear the consequences of knowing its existence.

Deity Saturn indeed it does

Yeah, and almost 200k subscribers! Congrats, JP!

Deity Saturn, The more Videos the better.

wait it's been 30?

I've been following him from the very beginning. Can't believe it's so many. But yeah: more TWA videos = Better.

The only truly good rivals

@Hyun Dong Lee Plankton is smarter than Krabs but let's his obsession overwhelmes him to where he does stupid things and for Plankton he wants success and the feeling of superity while for Krabs it's for money, they're both kinda Antagonists just with different vices

NARUTO!!! SASUKE!!!! NARUTO!!!!! SASUKE!!!!!! goku

Are they not divine? Few could.

I know right???! I can’t even begin to explain how many times I’ve been frustrated because the rivals had so much damn chemistry than the trophy love interest. UGH.

you get it lol

Also, why can't we have a rival/antiheroine that is a girl, like most of those characters are dudes but a girl that while not as physically strong as the hero is either a better strategist and/or quicker than the hero actually would make a series of fairly interesting battles between them and may allow the rival to win against the hero with careful and precise strikes while the hero attempts to deliver powerful blows to throw them off balance and gain an advantage. Also could make this entire relationship that is more developed than the love interest develop without homophobes interfering and make the hero slowly realize this whole "rivalry" has actually led to an love/hate relationship and both have feelings for one another but none wants to admit it.

I was thinking that Vegeta hits every single one of those traits at some point. All it was missing was the rival getting his ass handed to him by the villain to establish that he can beat someone "as strong as the protagonist."

but griffith and guts arent rivals at all. They didnt compete against each other only 2 times the 1st time griffith won and the 2nd time guts won and them well eclipse yada yada yada Guts got crippled deprestion and griffth die and in his place Femto was born and since them they interactions have been kept to a minimun with guts not being near at the same level as griffith in neither power, conviction or "morals" ( because griffith angelic look is a lie) So how are they rivals? They were Friends or rather they began as 2 people that just fough, became friends and them Enemies there is no sign of rival in there at all.

Class A, Rank 7; KZfaq Hero: Keyboard Warrior while kinda true its not entirely fair because vegeta didnt really start teaming up with goku and fighting alongside him as an equal/friend until like the buu saga The freeza saga doesn’t really count cause he wasnt fighting alongside goku and because he only really did it because it was the only way anything else would’ve killed him Hence why in the android/cell saga he does a lot of shit on his own mainly

mas8705 I do not think this is a rivalry. First, they were best buds. Then mortal enemies.

Griffith is Guts' NEMESIS, not necessarily his rival.

Ever seen one of Lindybeige's videos?

Kevin Stevens he really is

Jacksfilms?

Kevin Stevens, You didn’t know? Each video is designed to brainwash us so we come back for more......

I like jacksfilms but I only liked the Audible sponsor parts in yaiy. Other ones are pretty tame

It is used because human snoring often sounds like the pronunciation of the letter. Z looks like (also sounds like) electrical wave, and people send out brain waves when they are sleeping.

r/showerthoughts

What if z and a were switched?? AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@@whotookmypuddingcup4131 XDDDD

@@theaveragecomment1014 "I'm gonna go to sleep." "Alright goodnight" *not even half an hour later* "AAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

The rival gets together with Mary Sue's rival in the end, that's better.

They fight over Mary Sue for the sake of a love triangle but in the end they truly loved each other for the sake of fanfiction

KoyKoy I think all love triangles should end with either a poly relationship or they don’t pick one and the rivals date each other

@@petitio_principii *one rival sacrifices himself at the very last moment in a desperate futile charge against the antagonist giving the other the opportunity to strike the fatal blow that dramatically ends the conflict and instantly restores peace and harmony to the kingdom ...leading to a long romantic and sweaty embrace between the Alpha Male/Chosen One™ and the Mary Sue™ in the middle of the very messy battle ground surrounded by corpses and the writhing and screaming wounded...both agree that the other rival was in fact an honorable and noble individual whose house and lands should be restored to his surviving clan and later name their firstborn after them...who then years later turns to the Dark Side of the Force™ setting up the foundation for the continuation of the would be trilogy and spin-off prequels*

Eric Gardner it's because usually the story focuses more on the main characters than the relationship between a main character and their love interest. If the MC and their love interest don't have chemistry and the story only focuses on their romance and not their relationship and how it developed, I lose interest immediately.

Well I mean... if you think about it. Writing a rival isn't that different than writing romance. Since both have one rule in common.... "Opposites attract". When you have two characters that are SO opposite. But, complement each other so well, and have the potential to make them stronger together.... I mean, that's usually what most rivals end up being if you think about it. Now, a lot of time, they usually don't go too far with this. But sometimes the interactions are.... Well, let's just say it's easy to see why shippers sail their ships. (Only for canon to sink them.)

_Data_Drain_ "Opposites attract" isn't the key point in romance, though. It's not about opposing traits or views, it's about complimenting each other. I don't believe in "opposites attract" because by that kind of logic I, an introvert, should be attracted to extroverts, which is not true. A good person, by that logic, should be attracted to a bad person, which is also not true and makes little sense. However, an excitable and outgoing person - A- can be attracted to a calm and controlled person - B- but note that B isn't quiet or shy or something. In this case, I wouldn't call them opposites attract because their traits compliment each other (This applies if they can tolerate each other). I think, in the end, it boils down to whether or not the two can tolerate each other when they have opposing traits or beliefs, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to find someone who opposes your beliefs or some of your traits. That's just false. Rivalry works in the same way, but it depends on what kind of rivalry we're talking about.

Only if they actually like the story (even enough to criticize it.) I’ve never seen anyone fantasize about a work they don’t care about.

I'm sorry for my sins. I will never use a pen again

*sweats in madeout with reflection a couple months after switching to pen*

Mechanical pen users: * maniacal laughter *

@@user-mg7wh8zq6v breaks if pressured too hard

To add a little credence to wearing glasses him actively choosing to wear them could show that he himself understands that he can’t always see the World clearly And May need some outside assistance Also to add a little credence to the pen while one can argue it to make someone more rigid and also cannot be erase and therefore if you see a mistake you cannot undo it I just have to except the fact it’s there, in other words he lives with his mistakes while pencil JB can Peacefully forget about them after erasing them

... I'm assuming the last set is sarcasm.

M4R Dr. Pepper

KHwar If you add Dr. Pepper, it becomes a love triangle ;)

Arthur Williams Gad. Dangit.

I’m guessing Mountain Dew is that shitty comic relief?

Interesting

Scott Rankin Cool dat

Inspector Javert forcing symbolism on characters that don’t have symbolism is literally English class

This gives me flashbacks to 10th grade english...., also, friendly comment section metalworker and blacksmith broski here, swords are steel, at least, any sword worth its salt, and while steel is just Iron + carbon, the difference in the two is drastic, not trying to be that guy, cheers mates!

It would be interesting to see the flaws in each of their methods. Say the hero fights a dual but spares his opponent at end of it. The opponent is left with permanent injuries that prevents them from ever picking a sword up again or being able to find work, leaving them miserable. The rival swiftly kills those he deems necessary but what if that prevents him from hearing the full story, what if he kills someone that was misled or just following instructions. Then they're both called out by the loved ones of their victims and now carry a guilt leaving them questioning their own ways.

and it's not like anyone EVER wears name tags noting who is E-VIL and who is not...and the thought balloons that might appear in graphic novels are not reliable or visible to those for whom the information might prove most useful

Knowing how to do this is a very good idea if you're a writer, because sometimes there are limits to your capabilities on how characters are able to look and behave (often due to reasons of personal ability, persistent ideas that you just HAVE to do, or, in some mediums, technological limits), so you don't have a choice but to decide their appearance first. Reverse-engineering like this, while not ideal, can help you determine how to make your character distinct in personality and arc if your hand is being forced in some way.

Of course not! He'll just wind up on the sidelines, constantly cheering on JP and talking about how much better he is than him.

and ocasionaly show up to lose, ad inflate main character's ego

Eruintiel Greenleaf THIS!

The detective with a monocle and weird floppy hat because we've only heard of Sherlock Holmes and not Charlie Chan, Sam Spade, Nick and Nora Charles, Poirot, or even Miss Marple despite them being recognizable classics.

Or the James Patterson technique. Why write your own books? Just have the same dumb ideas over and over and pay people to write them for you, but put your name on it to make money!

The murderer should be obvious within the first 2 seconds of meeting him due to either wearing dark clothes, leather, a monocle, having a cat, a cigar or all of the above.

The murder should be a nonsensical and convoluted, as if it was designed to be mysterious, and victim and murderer cooperated for it to happen. Murderer also should be a totaly random character, because in murder mysteries guilty is always the one that nobody suspects. Oh, and it should be called "murder on the orient express", because we don't have enough rehashes of old stories yet.

God, the fact that I connect that part to some shows including Naruto and also don't develop the love interest into a person,she just there to serve as conflict and motivation

UnbrokenBrony, *Grabs Popcorn*

*shonen intensifies even harder*

You just decide Sasuke xD

"You sly dog! You caught me monologuing!"

Villain Protagonists!

Louis Duarte incredible reference

Found footage?

So edgy the hedgy?

@@philithegamer8265 Yeah, I guess it's somewhat similar to Shadoof the Edgehog.

@@creativeusername7366 Phht! Original character, do not steal!

I was hoping for Magic System,

Megfreakx3 A magic system? That should be easy. Just make sure everyone has an inexplicably infinite amount of (insert magic meter here) and make it a rock paper scissors game. Easy. ;)

PopstarChamp For Time Travel the worst possible thing to do is adding time travel to a story without it to resolve a problem the protagonist encountered. Even Harry Potter fell short when doing it because of how they never used such power again, when with it they could have easily saved everyone multiple times. But atleast J.K. managed to avoid creating a paradox.

Well, all the time turners were destroyed (or more accurately, stuck in an endless loop) at the end of the fifth book, so from that point on, time travel was no longer an option. And considering you would change a lot more than just a death by going back in time, especially the further back you go, it was probably for the best that they didn't keep using it. Some powers just aren't meant to be used to solve one's problems.

Dark Star of Chaos But if they are not supposed to be used them do not introduce them. Also even if all of them were put in a time loop someone one day will build new ones and problems would start.

That would be a very cunning move on the part of the rivals. After all, how can the Hero Love Triangle overwhelm the climax if the Rival Love Triangle is doing the same thing? Or would they merge into a single all powerful Love Web, absorbing all characters and conveniently but unsatisfactorily tying up all the "minor" conflicts?

He was a bit less "vauge" in _this one-_ ;^) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9WohdVhnMrWeok.htmlm20s

-ALWAYS- NEVER TEMPT THE SLASHERS.

As well as to the Naruto and Sasuke rivalry/ obsessional relationship they have

-Klance-

@Brook Heyes yuppp

Rivals were OUTSTANDIGLY done by the Manga ‚Lazy Nobleman becomes Strongest Swordsman’. I cant gush enough about it: it genuinly sprurised me in a genuine way.

If you look in the description, he has a website where he gives actually good writing advice

@@DetectiveWraith 👍

It's down to preference

Bruce Wayne What is billionaire philanthropist Bruce Wayne doing fighting crime at night?

Bruce Wayne But the Joker is giving terrible comedian advice!

I don't know for certain, Doctor Freud, but I heard rumors that Bruce Wayne is secretly Batman. Crazy, right!?

That is not the Joker, it's Adam Sandler the clown prince of crime against comedy.

@Doctor Freud It has nothing to do with my mother if that's what your insinuating. While Martha may have been tragically taken awa- Martha... OH GOD WHY DID I MENTION THAT NAME!

Basically One-Sided Rivalry, Might Guy and Kakashi

Yugioh GX comes to mind for me literally Bastion and Jayden while Jayden doesn’t really care Bastion thinks they are rivals even going so far as to say if jay is the number 1 duelist he’s number 2

Keith and Lance from voltron!!

Didn't Van von Hunter have a joke about that?

That's Gilgamesh from Final Fantasy 5 in a nutshell.

Wow, that’s the best example of rivals being a foil I’ve ever read. 😂

hanyuukawaiinanodesu, I love Mha 😂 nice reference

also applies to shokugeki no soma almost to aru majutsu as well but there isn't a main pretty boy rival involved in that i think...

hanyuukawaiinanodesu Nah, Touma doesn't really have a main rival or a rival at all (unless you count later down in the novels but the rivalry was short lived.) Nakamoto is there as Accelerator but Accel is more of his own person than Touma's rival.

Aka My hero academia. With pretty angst boy w Daddy issues Todoroki, edgy angry Bakugou and cinnamon roll Midoriya Lol. Only Bakugou voiced by someone else.

@Varga Julian The original what exactly? Original Bakugou, The one with Daddy issues, Main character or all of the above?

When?

Till the end of time

ok

The best love triangle is Guts, Casca and Grifftih from the golden age arc.

The only example of when the poorly written comedic relief character gets the girl

You could probably make an entire video on terribly overused symbolism used by hack writers trying to be deep, things like putting the hero in a crucified Jesus pose to show how self-sacrificing they are, making the hero and the villain play chess or having African-sounding choir music to symbolize how great nature and stuff is.

Aqua anyone

So true, i remember, in battle athletes, rigth now is the one that comes to mind, that, Asagiry, the main protagonist, and Jenniffer i think was, the america, to show how dumb it was, when you think about it, the plot or idea is a sport anime and the idea was that they will compete in end of season one in a thiriatlon a long grueling competition, that start with swimming, cicling and then a marathon and Asagiry the main protagonist, didint even train, an entire month no training and the rival, at the moment, was always training, was one of th best, she didint even see the main protagonist a rival her rival was another girl also better than the main, the problem was that at the end of these long thing, both are tired, love that the one that most tired look was the girl that come prepare, is acostum to run and that, and at the end, remember these is story was sport, no super power, no mutation, human beings, Asagiry, was taking a memento of her best friend in her wrist these fall as she run, didint know how it didint fall during the swimmning, part, and she literaly stop, she stop and crawll and remember the other girl is stiill runnning, less than a metter from the goal and then the best friend of the main girl, scream you can do it, she see her best friend, remember no super power, or mutation or magick, she sprint from cralwing stand up and sprint, sprint nearly teleport pass her rival and whin, everybody cheers for he. At that moment analizing WTF, they cheer, for a girl that was going to quit, barely put effort, barely trains, and never liked acutaly sport, and abandon the actual girl, that train, dedicate herself and the importance of the insitution and its meaning, all because the power of friendship. Honestly, the only cartoon, or anime or whatever that put the power of friendship wrigth was mi little pony friendship is magic, outside that, no

@@Krysnha This is really nice. But, ah-- I don't mean to be that person, but there's not a whole lot of punctuation. I can't really tell where a sentence starts and ends because most of the punctuation is just a bunch of commas. Not saying this was a bad comment. Really nice actually! It's just a little harder to understand when there's not a whole lot of periods.

@@sapphirewings8638 Mi bad, mi english is really wasting and fast, but thanks, for me Bathle athletes is a simbol, that there were bad animes in the past, and i was watching it and i like some parts, and like many animes, i like the seconday characters, but when you analize these anime, is so bad, so utterly dumb and when i see these one about rivals, it was so true in that anime, the rivals, all train most than the protagonist, all have more dedications and consistency, and the sad part, is that a satire, a true satire, not Keijo, but a real satire of anime would be amaizing, like that satire of pokemon made by gumbino, that ash enters with just pikachu and pikachu start screaming you are going down, and he just win because reasons, no training, not caring.

Robert Ciamei they did and sausuke broke up with him. Thus the rivalry.

Robert Ciamei Goku!

The Last *KAKAROT That's what Vegeta says

Robert Ciamei, They’ve had sex six times already. Where have you been?...... 🤣

they did

Dr. Cactus W I feel very disturbated with thought that anyone found inner critic advices good

Jakub Wojciechowski Why?

Lucia Rosier Because those are at best mediocre advices. What actually Inner critic said? That Terriblr Writer advices are bad (who expected), that you have to spend some time developing characters personality, and put a lot of effort into their rivarly and motives. Those are advices type "do it right so it will be right". But worst (and I think only one that really matters) thing which Inner Critic said is that rival and character should be qual or similar power level. That's not how it works at all! Character and Rival issue is very complex and various, witch plenty of diffrent forms and options, and you can't simply said that their powers should be equal. In Tolkien book for instance, every single character is way weaker than Sauron and that's why their conflict is interesting. But in Dragon ball, entire deal with rival is that they are equal and that's why they are interesting to see Goku and Vegeta fighting each other. Actually, watching rival, who is severly weaker than character but still trying to beat him is great idea which could be great is done right. Actually, the REAL reason why most of the character-rival quest are so interesting is because we can watch our character rising in power and changing durimg every duel with rival, which is also developing by fights. That issue is really deep and complex so putting that in simple "don't make one weaker" is extremly harmfull, plain and just boring. Like nearly everything what inner critic said.

Jakub Wojciechowski The rivalry between those two critics was fun to watch tho. They played off each other thematically and even though inner critic's advice boiled down to "don't do stupid things" and the format doesn't allow their relationship to evolve much, their rivalry is pretty well done. For example, since they argue instead of fighting, the outcome of every argument they have is debatable as to who "wins". Even the ending follows that logic since inner critic loses, but because the other one cheated. Well of course it may not be that clever but it makes me think :)

Jakub Wojciechowski I think a good example of a rivalry where both rivals are true equals is the one between Light and L from Death Note. A rivalry like that makes you really wonder who's going to come out on top, and makes more sense--why should the stronger rival care about some random weakling among many? This power imbalance leads to one-sided fake rivalries like Goku VS Vegeta. For a rivalry to be good both characters should be invested in it, but there has to be a reason for it.