Killing on Turn 3 with Slickshot Show-Off | $65 / 11 Rare Budget Magic | OTJ Standard

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MTGGoldfish

MTGGoldfish

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Do the new plot mechanic and Slickshot Show-Off mean we can kill our opponent on Turn 3 in Outlaws of Thunder Junction Standard on just a $65 budget? Let's find out!
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@AllstateManlove
@AllstateManlove Ай бұрын
Playing mono red in early access must have made your opponents eyeroll lol
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Ай бұрын
Got 'em.
@nosyamthegreat8768
@nosyamthegreat8768 Ай бұрын
Stilk has more new cards then crim lol
@JacoDeltaco
@JacoDeltaco Ай бұрын
You're telling that to the guy who play lands destruction on early access day
@OddMidnight
@OddMidnight Ай бұрын
​​@@MTGGoldfishHave you considered doing a Satoru artifact storm deck for timeless? I think that card has lots of potential.
@xStarborn
@xStarborn Ай бұрын
No shit. This dude is an omega virgin
@drewhoffmaster2969
@drewhoffmaster2969 Ай бұрын
Seth solved RDW for new standard in record time 😂
@enmanuelrondon9700
@enmanuelrondon9700 Ай бұрын
When you Plot you show your opponent your plans but when you Foretell you hide the prophecy. Make it make sense.
@malcomchase9777
@malcomchase9777 Ай бұрын
One is a supervillain monologuing and the other is a twist a la Witch King ("No man born of a woman can kill him" or whatever).
@SomethingWiley
@SomethingWiley Ай бұрын
This is the real competitive meta gamning
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt Ай бұрын
We play this game for the plot.
@I_Am_Kas
@I_Am_Kas Ай бұрын
I feel like I had a stroke reading that.
@axelostlund2348
@axelostlund2348 Ай бұрын
The two should be swapped, yes.
@m.m.8518
@m.m.8518 Ай бұрын
Seth is pronouncing more cards incorrectly by accident, than Crim does on purpose 😄
@xiaohe6407
@xiaohe6407 Ай бұрын
As a non native English speaker I start to worry that if I consumed too much of Seth’s content.
@gregorybarnard5593
@gregorybarnard5593 Ай бұрын
It's not by accident
@Fawlty22
@Fawlty22 Ай бұрын
It was said you would destroy the Mono red. Not join them!
@KabobHope
@KabobHope 26 күн бұрын
If you can't beat 'em . . . .
@theblakwarior
@theblakwarior Ай бұрын
I know, a lot of this is cuz ppl dont play removal in preview, but this feels like it'll be even worse to play against that that hexproof rotpriest stuff...
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's going to be way more heavily played than the Rotpriest deck I think. It's super cheap and really strong.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Ай бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish It'll probably be the king of BO1, but I don't see it dethroning the black midrange in BO3.
@ara9422
@ara9422 Ай бұрын
Slickshot is actually so cracked. If you were to delve into blue, you could get options like slip out the back and shore up for protection against all of standard's removal.
@domri4203
@domri4203 Ай бұрын
Or green
@WhammeWhamme
@WhammeWhamme Ай бұрын
@@domri4203 - yeah, the red/green deck with picnic ruiner seems like it would be even more obnoxious as a shell
@brakalanga7667
@brakalanga7667 Ай бұрын
In historic/timeless it may be even worth considering the Pact of Negation + Stifle combo - pact is pre plotted, stifle indirectly doubles as a shock. In standard, I wonder if you can simply add Return the Favor for protection without needing other colors. Anyways, I have a feeling people will start playing Aven Interrupter not just because it's a good card, but specifically because it's up to a 3 for 1 against this archetype...
@ara9422
@ara9422 Ай бұрын
​@@domri4203 Green is probably better lol
@TheKeepon
@TheKeepon Ай бұрын
You can't even buy 4 Slickshot Show-Offs for the $50 budget you set - good job, you broke it.
@ginoclaves
@ginoclaves Ай бұрын
Slickshot seems a bit pushed, huh. I thought it just had prowess, so essentially a 2-mana flying Swiftspear.
@jimzh7669
@jimzh7669 Ай бұрын
A bit different since it doesn't have prowess. It'll always die to a 2 damage removal spell unlike monastery and has a bigger chance at getting your opponent since it gains +2 rather than one. On turns you would cast 2 spells instead of 3 damage you deal 5 and in the first couple of turns leads you to have a much faster lead against the mirror if they tapped out
@zaksaturday1693
@zaksaturday1693 Ай бұрын
@@jimzh7669 I think it's actually better in the match-up. Sure, it might die to a 2-damage removal, or the removal might be wasted with a monstrous rage in response. Because you plot and cast it like a storm, it makes your opponent either waste a turn holding up removal early in the game, in which case you might be able to plot more or just use another creature. There's something psychologically demanding to seeing it get plotted
@jesseknorr8037
@jesseknorr8037 Ай бұрын
​@@zaksaturday1693"just gotta hold up cutdown until they play Slickshot. Any day now. Fuck whys my life total at 6"
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Ай бұрын
Personally I think I'd save on the budget by cutting the foundry for mountains and one sokenzan. Having a manland is nice, but as you saw in game 2, being able to hit RR for double 1 drops turn 2 is pretty important.
@jabberhyte1814
@jabberhyte1814 Ай бұрын
Kiln fiend is one of my favorite “prowess” cards, and show-off is just that except it trades 1 power from the buff for haste AND flying.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Ай бұрын
Yeah, I love Kiln Fiend and this is a huge buff.
@AGentlemanlyScholar
@AGentlemanlyScholar Ай бұрын
Thanks to actually having prowess, slickshot effectively gets +3/+1 from all noncreature spells - no tradeoff!
@Syr_Robert
@Syr_Robert Ай бұрын
The fact that Slickshot has haste is what makes it a real threat. I've been playing mono red prowess in both Pioneer and Standard and having Codebreaker in MKM was a very welcome addition. Now, having a better threat that can come off plotting for free is just nuts. I'm glad it can make prowess a real deck in both formats, though.
@vividsyntax5301
@vividsyntax5301 Ай бұрын
Something that I think gets understated: Seth is a VERY good Magic player (in addition to a brewer of fun decks). I love the explanation at 17:05 about the non-intuitive play. Really helps newer players understand the intricacies of the game.
@TacticalOmelette
@TacticalOmelette Ай бұрын
Going from "Writing a Timeless Crime Novel" in your last video to making a "Plot-ess" deck is really funny, lol
@DinoAndSeal
@DinoAndSeal Ай бұрын
Love your budget magic series guys!
@ecastello
@ecastello Ай бұрын
"Breech the Mirror" is a new one
@oreszteszmurgacs7689
@oreszteszmurgacs7689 Ай бұрын
I wonder if I will hear Seth pronounce Kumono faces Kakkazan correctly once before it rotates
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Ай бұрын
honestly that's one of those cards that I'd give him the pass on. It's one of the more difficult cards to correctly pronounce.
@dimitrimanevski2321
@dimitrimanevski2321 Ай бұрын
*Kumano, but I get your point
@alexanderwhitbeck5543
@alexanderwhitbeck5543 Ай бұрын
Well the new best of 1 meta looks fun 😂
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish Ай бұрын
This deck is going to be super strong in best of one.
@pedrobianchi2412
@pedrobianchi2412 Ай бұрын
As a lifelong red player, Slickshot is definitely public enemy #1 right now. Most wanted dead or alive.
@jorritdriessen5728
@jorritdriessen5728 Ай бұрын
Love the content, keep it up!
@psap5580
@psap5580 Ай бұрын
Love the vids Seth!
@qazaq25
@qazaq25 Ай бұрын
Probably my favourite deck on arena has been built around using Birgi to cast heaps of one cost draw/burn spells. Slickshot (and plot in general) essential become rituals that mean turn 3 wins become very much possible... Its probably just a worse version of mono red but I definitely find it conceptually more fun
@dylanmahoney4889
@dylanmahoney4889 Ай бұрын
Buying this on paper for sure, still love my dimir draw two budget deck
@Ben-rr6gd
@Ben-rr6gd Ай бұрын
Welp. Not playing best of 1 standard for awhile.
@testerfritz
@testerfritz Ай бұрын
Thanks, keep up!
@DrAngryMongoose
@DrAngryMongoose Ай бұрын
I love slickshot showoff. I need to go build storm in every format.
@sinicas14
@sinicas14 Ай бұрын
Im playing a mix of izzet prowess & phoenix and i think Both the slickshot showoff and the new plot draw cards are insane for that deck ❤
@evanshaner991
@evanshaner991 Ай бұрын
As a RDW enjoyer, I spend every single game trading spells 1 for 1 with removal against control/midrange dekcs every single game. Not sure how Seth finds all these opponents that keep hands with less than 3 removal spells in their opening hand.
@aaroneisenman6873
@aaroneisenman6873 Ай бұрын
I feel you on that....
@breakingthewall2112
@breakingthewall2112 Ай бұрын
They were playing fun decks for the premiere of Thunder Junction. In a real bo1 they would have
@GramboAshby
@GramboAshby Ай бұрын
Turn 3 kill on turn 4 is really cool.
@jmkqfnvyl87
@jmkqfnvyl87 Ай бұрын
Was wondering how a gameplay vid from Seth could be sub 30 mins. . Now I understand. 😂
@user-cf3xm1cq4e
@user-cf3xm1cq4e Ай бұрын
Finally! Wizards made playable mono-red for standard /s
@zeo4481
@zeo4481 Ай бұрын
There isn't anything I'd like to play less than Mono Red, still love the energy Seth!❤
@bughouse26
@bughouse26 Ай бұрын
I have a similar list prepared but also wanted to try out Stingerback Terror as the top of the curve. Have you given that one a try?
@LyubenV
@LyubenV Ай бұрын
Slickshot might be good in Gruul or Izzet too. Both offer protection. Izzet more spells to trigger things, Gruul for something like Picnic Ruiner for the pump meta.
@charliefisman6660
@charliefisman6660 Ай бұрын
Such a sick deck to play
@syntos995
@syntos995 Ай бұрын
That’s kinda my Pioneer Tournament Deck :D Kills turn 3 always 😂 gonna try Slickshot in the next rcq, wish me luck 💪🏼🙈
@rhettk6263
@rhettk6263 Ай бұрын
theres a new 1 red spree instant that extra combat plus other stuff, so i think it would be great in mono red
@jeromephelps5959
@jeromephelps5959 Ай бұрын
Do you think it replaces Tenth District Legionnaire in Boros Heroic in Pioneer/Explorer?
@wormspeaker
@wormspeaker Ай бұрын
I feel like on average you would win more games if you replace those workshops with mountains than you gain by having the extra options in a control matchup.
@iconbeauty-piraeus
@iconbeauty-piraeus 25 күн бұрын
True. The deck doesn't have mana to spare in the first 3-4 turns, so having even a single workshop as the land of the turn can potentially slow you down enough to lose the game.
@joshuajohnson1448
@joshuajohnson1448 25 күн бұрын
I’ve been wanting to make this idea work with the urabrask that turns into a saga for explorer/pioneer. It’s put up some results with OTJ in the format!
@ajaxender12
@ajaxender12 Ай бұрын
Undeniably strong. Plot is really interesting and honestly healthy (in principle, whether or not Slickshot is busted) for this kind of aggro deck; it sacrifices hidden information in order to give the deck reach, to set up the unstoppable turn, or survive a bad draw. That's healthier for all involved instead of a deck that either definitely wins over the first 3 to 4 turns, or almost certainly loses. In actual Standard... B01 is already stupid fast. Faster than I think it should be if it's the 'default' and therefore intro to not-Commander Magic. Mono-Red and Boros convoke among others can already pretty much win by turn 3 or 4 if insufficiently answered. You already gotta run quite a lot of early removal, cheap wipes, incidental lifegain (assuming you don't have a payoff for it), or aggressive hand disruption. Plot is distinctly weak to hard counters, although it does make the 'pay extra' counters much much weaker. This seems like a better mono-Red but it remains to be seen if that will actually mean anything.
@jameswood5285
@jameswood5285 Ай бұрын
@alpacaofthemountain8760
@alpacaofthemountain8760 2 күн бұрын
Playing Slickshot Showoff, even as a noob and with a suboptimal deck It's performing amazingly
@jjzwak
@jjzwak Ай бұрын
I was totally planning on doing this but was thinking I'd need it to be more midrange /control did not see this card draw in red!
@willspower3
@willspower3 Ай бұрын
Remember when Modern was called a 4 turn format? Pepperidge Farm remembers...
@zachgray4767
@zachgray4767 Ай бұрын
Honestly I think the Foundries just get in the way. If you have nothing better to do than spend basically 3 mana for a bear, I think you were never going to get there. Plus the colorless lands are terrible.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 Ай бұрын
I'll second this. The number of times he needed the red mana was high and their utility never got used. Sokenzhan makes for a good 1 or 2 of, but I don't think this deck wants anything but red sources.
@Crazymachin3gun
@Crazymachin3gun Ай бұрын
This deck looks so fun
@jeremiahdriscoll9095
@jeremiahdriscoll9095 Ай бұрын
The reasons to plot the bird is to protect it from (Sorcery-speed) removal and maybe to time it so it picks up a Faces counter. Is there another reason I'm missing?
@1033515
@1033515 Ай бұрын
To save mana for the turn you play it and add more spells to the pseudo-prowess. Also to avoid sorcery speed removal on it.
@jeremiahdriscoll9095
@jeremiahdriscoll9095 Ай бұрын
@@1033515 Ignoring the possibility of removal, you're not saving any mana over the course of the game, and you're missing out on a point (or more) of damage by plotting it.
@benepic3101
@benepic3101 Ай бұрын
so you can plot other noncreatures and play them all at once to buff the showoff as quick as posisble
@codypratt3590
@codypratt3590 Ай бұрын
Great, mono red burn has even more toys now.
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody Ай бұрын
9:44 Okay, concedes I can respect are rare(outside of landscrewed or landflooded), that's one of 'em.
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody Ай бұрын
also I like that plot sound effect
@kuzmychmaksym3843
@kuzmychmaksym3843 22 күн бұрын
Slickshot show-off is $19 now. It's not a $50 deck anymore. Still sick as hell. I also saw Callous Sell-Sword // Burn Together also plays well in this deck. Burn Together part of it.
@chublover74
@chublover74 22 күн бұрын
Hey there Seth...was curious as to what your Handle was for MTG Arena? would love to add ya and challenge you
@nickna7387
@nickna7387 Ай бұрын
kumano has been in standard for 2 years now and he still wont pronounce it correctly
@Beam_on_team
@Beam_on_team Ай бұрын
15:35 they're just dead to you lightning striking their face EOT. They go to 16 from the strike. You cast slickshot, cast ruckus on swiftspear (3 power swiftspear, 3 power slickshot) Play with fire their face to 14 (4 power, 5 power) dealers choice of the second lightning strike or the antagonize to leave them at either -1 or -2 respectively
@kaszael
@kaszael Ай бұрын
If it makes you feel better Seth, at 19:50, even if you had hit your 3rd land, you'd have brought opponent to 1. The land would have let you cast your other Play with fire for 2, both swiftspears would have been +1 each and show-off would have been +2, for a total of +6 damage and they were at 7 after the attack.
@alistairetheblu
@alistairetheblu 22 күн бұрын
I kinda like Twinferno for this deck. Double Strike and the occasional copying something when needed.
@Distantone11
@Distantone11 20 күн бұрын
A long time ago seth made a modern deck called boiling blood or something like that. I wonder if slickshot showoff could improve that one much cuz this deck feels very similar.
@natewaters344
@natewaters344 Ай бұрын
Love all these budget decks, but you gotta get em fast. 12 hours after this dropped its $90 w/o shipping. Go build the dopplegang deck, rhat thing is a blast and is still under $40!
@MagicRooster41
@MagicRooster41 28 күн бұрын
No longer budget but still fun. LFG super prowess bird wizard
@erichluepke855
@erichluepke855 Ай бұрын
That horse is driving me crazy. But also it's cute. But also it's driving me crazy
@ecastello
@ecastello Ай бұрын
Seems like it's fold super hard to removal. White or green splash for protection might be good.
@DanielGalllego
@DanielGalllego Ай бұрын
only change i would think of is to change scorching shot for witchtaker frenzy
@person3176
@person3176 Ай бұрын
plot sound effect is way too loud lol. but really fun deck! love me some aggro. I tried building Gruul pump spell / prowess but that didnt quite hit the mark. but this slickshot...
@luchasorpresa3333
@luchasorpresa3333 Ай бұрын
was 50 when he made the video, 65 when he captioned the video. do you think it will even stay budget
@NightmareFuelsYou
@NightmareFuelsYou Ай бұрын
Cut the rare lands. They are trash in this deck
@jrjamesson
@jrjamesson Ай бұрын
could reduce the rares by dropping the mishra lands, which seem like a liability when you may want RR on turn 2-3 anyway.
@Gattsu65
@Gattsu65 Ай бұрын
Where are the twinferno's???
@michaelrivera8665
@michaelrivera8665 Ай бұрын
Love Slickshot :)
@FirstLast-ty9ju
@FirstLast-ty9ju Ай бұрын
Can you add a moxfield link?
@johnf9710
@johnf9710 29 күн бұрын
When your entire budget is four slickshots
@njnjhjh8918
@njnjhjh8918 Ай бұрын
I like kiln fiend decks so, yeah, cool!
@Jonasz314
@Jonasz314 Ай бұрын
Can you slow down this deck using Final Showdown? The +1 causes all creatures to lose all their abilities, which strips Haste. All the sorceries used during the kill turn have to be played pre-combat, so the opponent will of course wait until you move to declare attackers step, then remove Haste. I guess that leaves them one turn to find an answer, and a deck like this most likely has access to sweepers and cards like Temporary Lockdown (not for much longer though) to slow it down. Still, the deck looks very consistent and can take down the opponent 20 to 0 in a single turn, which is insane. From recent memory, I've never seen a monored deck being able to do this. Even Ramunap Red back in Hour of Devastation was nowhere near this fast.
@giantpizzafish
@giantpizzafish Ай бұрын
Budget MRA is the Lord's work.
@joeysmith5767
@joeysmith5767 Ай бұрын
This standard deck seems playable in modern. Imagine how good the upgraded modern version would be
@mikemoyer8162
@mikemoyer8162 Ай бұрын
I see a near future where cut down is now a 4 of in every black deck in Bo1.
@Crazymachin3gun
@Crazymachin3gun Ай бұрын
Can u build a deck that kills using the crime lands like straight up super ramp and kill with crime lands?
@bughouse26
@bughouse26 Ай бұрын
Agreed. Desert combo with maybe Invasion of Regatha, Solphim, City on Fire, etc
@trafalgarlaw5837
@trafalgarlaw5837 Ай бұрын
Thumbnail look like that bird from one piece 😂😂😂 The one who owns the news.
@NoeticEidetics
@NoeticEidetics Ай бұрын
Are the Prosperity Post cards standard legal?
@bulbasaurappreciator
@bulbasaurappreciator Ай бұрын
Only if they already were legal (Leyline Binding) otherwise no
@NoeticEidetics
@NoeticEidetics Ай бұрын
@@bulbasaurappreciatorthanks
@Alphine_Agnitio
@Alphine_Agnitio Ай бұрын
Wait how do you have access to thunder junction cards already
@poiri
@poiri Ай бұрын
Streamer/content creator event
@andrecruz04
@andrecruz04 Ай бұрын
It's a bummer that you weren't matched up with CGB 😂😂
@brianbishop5322
@brianbishop5322 20 күн бұрын
I would love to know how Seth gets draws like this, yet I go with the same cards, and I get 1 land. Mull to 6 and get 5 lands. Mull to 5 and get 0 lands.....for 4 games in a row. Land screw or flood constantly.
@bulbasaurappreciator
@bulbasaurappreciator Ай бұрын
15:51 Playing with Firing lol
@UEENavy
@UEENavy Ай бұрын
roiling vortex would be a good counter to this but honestly there might not even be enough time to cast it lol
@jackweitzman6697
@jackweitzman6697 Ай бұрын
“Hey, runeterra players! Remember that one flurry of fists deck?”
@kurowasanabe
@kurowasanabe Ай бұрын
Who could have known that a hasty flying Kiln Fiend would be good?
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody Ай бұрын
Seth's _Budget Magic_ is Mono-Red? Must be time for a new set release....
@Erictraiven
@Erictraiven Ай бұрын
You can actually win more consistently on turn 3 by adding the fling card
@AllTop507
@AllTop507 Ай бұрын
Yay! A new glass cannon strategy that the meta will start playing to counter within a week. As if enough people weren't already playing black anyways.
@MrEforEveryone
@MrEforEveryone Ай бұрын
How did they put flying on showoff? Omg
@dallinhilton3189
@dallinhilton3189 Ай бұрын
I’m feeling sick watching this and thinking about my future on arena
@xchronox0
@xchronox0 Ай бұрын
the deck also telegraphs itself. any amount of removal or counters will stop it.
@dallinhilton3189
@dallinhilton3189 Ай бұрын
@@xchronox0 have you played much standard? Even a deck full of counters and removal still gets wrecked by mono red on the draw most of the time.
@xchronox0
@xchronox0 Ай бұрын
@@dallinhilton3189 Pardon my inexperience, then! I actually don't play any form of MTG. I just... for some reason like to watch MTGGoldfish while eating dinner. 😂
@dallinhilton3189
@dallinhilton3189 Ай бұрын
You’re good I’m just fired up cuz I play a lot of Bo1 and no matter how good of a deck you think you’ve cooked up, if you run into mono red on the draw, you’re most likely gonna lose unless they get really unlucky. And seeing this makes me feel like it’s gonna be even worse. But yeah I love watching Seth play 🤩
@xchronox0
@xchronox0 Ай бұрын
@@dallinhilton3189 Yeah honestly it just doesn't seem like a fun playstyle to go up against. Especially because there really doesn't seem to be much thought into it. Just slam things down and all in until your opponent hits 0. I don't really like a lot of the playstyles in MTG at all, which is why I don't play. Net decks just destroy whatever my tiny little brain and empty wallet can cobble together. Even if I play that cobbled together deck very well. But monored just seems way too consistent and fast in general. The fact that this deck also seems incredibly consistent no matter who goes first, too, seems a bit scary.
@twigwoodman3567
@twigwoodman3567 Ай бұрын
Key to the deck is only showing games with slickshot in hand.
@jacksun23
@jacksun23 Ай бұрын
4x Knockout Blow going into sideboard
@AENock
@AENock Ай бұрын
Slickshot Sligh has a good ring to it.
@TimeWalkTV
@TimeWalkTV Ай бұрын
$50 budget $40 for 4 Slickshot-Show off
@gaminggeckos4388
@gaminggeckos4388 Ай бұрын
7:25 BRUH they tutored for a SWAMP
@gawura
@gawura Ай бұрын
No one else is gonna comment on Seth’s STP reference? I laughed, at least.
@ghostwithknife416
@ghostwithknife416 Ай бұрын
"I'm starting to think the Show-off is good in modern." Seth, it's Kiln Fiend on steroids. How are you just now starting to think that?!?
@LightPink
@LightPink Ай бұрын
What's the point of plotting the bird? Shouldn't you be swinging it for 1 damage instead?
@ZacharyBurr
@ZacharyBurr 27 күн бұрын
Playing it early opens you up to now removal. If you're going for the combo kill it's better to plot it and cast it when they're tapped down and can only react at instant speed.
@christianbarrett3040
@christianbarrett3040 Ай бұрын
I expected Dwarven Forge-Chanter in the deck
@Grapedanu5
@Grapedanu5 Ай бұрын
Worldfire into plot stuff
@CasperGrimshaw
@CasperGrimshaw Ай бұрын
Uhhh are historic wizards even stronger now?
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