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When Kirk said "he cannot afford to be forgotten", this perhaps explains why he does such outlandish things on the stage, like those dances and falling out and being carried away on stage. He wants people to continue to pay attention to him, while I can sympathize with this to an extent, this is why so many people think Christianity is becoming a circus. Because too many Christian influencers are doing things for shock value instead of being led by the Holy Spirit, because they want to stay relevant in the eyes of the world. This is why rappers come out as Gay & do those "embarrassment rituals" because it's a way to gain popularity and attention, but it comes as a very unfair cost. But Jesus Christ is the Only One we need to be remembered by. Especially on that terrible day when He has to tell the majority of humanity to depart from Him because He never knew them. But even if man forgets who you are, it doesn't matter. God will not forget you. And it's important to do things for His sake, and not for the sake of fame and attention. Edit: I was actually going to delete this comment in fear that I was passing judgement over Kirk but the Lord dropped something in my Spirit for Kirk: He truly needs to repent. He claims he is just “trying his best”, but refuses to be transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit. He refuses to separate himself from the world. He indirectly deceives his followers into thinking that repentance is not important and God does not need to be feared. He loves to remind us that we have all fallen short of the glory of God and have sinned, by refuses to tell people they must repent and be washed by the blood of Christ, for this is what our salvation is hinged upon. You MUST repent and turn away from sin. You can not sit in your sin like a pig sits in slop and expect God to accept it. You cannot continue to do what is wrong and think God accepts it. Jesus can save you from sin.

The enemy gets us really young with the spirit of rejection, this is the root of all the pain in the world. To be rejected is being told that your existence is a mistake, it’s not needed and therefore you spend your entire life comparing, competing and conforming in an attempt to fill the void in our soul. The only antidote to rejection is love❤

This mans music and the Holy spirit literally pulled me out of the bed of sin one night when a secular starion played the reason why i sing. His albums have been part of the soundtrack of my walk for almost 30 yrs. I owned those VHS tapes you referenced, i knew exactly what you referred to. I love Kirks heart and little Kirks journey. He IS seen. He is LOVED for who he is.

I NEVER JUDGE KIRK. His honesty is NEEDED

Tim do be taking a minute with his intros 😂

Some people will have a problem with Kirk Franklin if he put his left shoe on before his right shoe.

Great, unfiltered convo! Kirk's a forerunner and I appreciate Tim allowing him to be human. The Holy Spirit moved through Tim to pour into Kirks wounds with divine wisdom. I pray Kirk heals from his seemingly rejection/abandonment wound and comes to a genuine realization that who he is in God is more than enough. God still cares and sees us, no matter how much stuff we've done for the world to care and see us.

Let’s go TIM!! It’s Tim standing up for Kirk for me❤❤❤. We have to extend grace and pray for them seriously ..

I personally was confused on how to feel about Kirk.. but this cleared a lot of things up! Thank you both for your vulnerability❤️ I think anyone with a big platform these days gets questioned because all that is being exposed in hollywood/government! Kirk has years of experience with a big reputation, i think most did not know where his faith stood in such environments. Glad to see he is & has always held the tension. Thanks for doing Gods work❤️

I’ve been waiting to hear from Kirk! Can’t wait! 🎉🎉

I always enjoy Kirk's authenticity

This will be powerful for those who are wise

So GOOOOOD... WOW. Let us all give each other grace and have compassion. You don't have the full picture of a person's life.

❤Thanks so much for doing this interview it truly blessed me

This was a good one, I ready to watch it again.

“Go on.” - Tim Ross 😂

Tim thank you for dropping this amazing pod !! I feel like Kirk brought up some topics that needed to be had and heard. Can we please get pt2?🥺

No, people have problems with Kirk because he’s bringing Gods name to an open shame. Kirk Franklin still loves the world and what it has to offer. He does not want to deny himself the pleasure of the world. We must continue to pray for him that he may come back to God.

Whew the tears 😭 we needed this I needed this thank you guys

😇I saw "Kir" in Arizona and it was a life changing moment for me when I learned how to connect with God thru his music I listen to Kirk on pandora daily and it's my main go to to get in God's presence love you Kirk and you too timmy

I appreciate this interview so much. Thank you ❤

Kirk- God sees you!!!! We see you! Keep the faith! I was one of those that was brought up listening to your early music. My mom and grandma listened to Shirley Caesar - but I listened to your music!!! Yes God-❤

This is so Good. Thank you...

Wow!! Wow!! The entire convo on B-Side App is powerful 🔥🔥

I pray that Christians focus less on judging others and more time spreading the Good News to the world. We have to come together collectively and build each other in unity. This even goes for the backsliding, lukewarm, and inconsistent Christians. Who are we to even judge in the first place?

Needed this 😇

Wow ! That was so heart felt I love you my brothers

Damn 😢you Kirk, you made me cry immediately, My lord, I’m praying for your healing and your soul, whew that touched me so deeply🙏🏾This was such a wonderful interview, I can’t judge no man!

I LOVE Kirk Franklin not just for his music But his trying to walk in authenticity...His interviews lets me listen to his music with different ears 👏🏾💐! Lastly I understand him/Paul because my Abba is showing me that in my weakness He is showing His 🔋🔋🔋 And it has been incredible! I am overjoyed to boast in that Because It is undeniably Him! And I can't wait to see what He does in me yet! GOD BLESS!

I been waiting for this

Great episode. Thank you both for your vulnerability. Watched the whole episode on The B-side app, definitely a classic.

I needed to watch this. I was one of those who loved Kirk’s music and judged Kirk in the same moment. This conversation has prompted some self reflecting. Wow.

Thanks for the commercial break. I just subscribed to B-Side.

🔥🔥🔥waiting for this

This Transparency is beautiful .. thank you Tim and Kir

This is so beautiful ❤ fave me a new perspective. I’m forever grateful for this podcast.

love the new edit style!!!!!

Looking forward to this!!

This whole conversation!!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Tim, can you tell Kirk thank you for being a REAL dude. This walk ain’t easy for anyone.❤🙏🏽👏🏾👍🏾💪🏾

Great perspective and great conversation

This was a very moving and emotional interview, my heart feels real heavy for Kirk, to be that open and real takes real a man of God and a true heart, I love you Kirk much respect King!

This the interview that finally made be get the app. Stop twisting my arm 😂

Man this was good. So many nuggets in this.

I NEEDED this.

Can’t wait ❤❤❤

The other issue is the Church itself is completely lost! The whole mission of the Church was the Ministry. Today the Church cares about entertainment and appearances of holiness versus actually being the light in a very dark world. When you walk in any dark room you are supposed to bring the light with you!

Tim allowed the Holy Spirit to speak through him into the heart of Kirk, yes Jesus

He is a forerunner. Keep it up Kirk💪🏾🫡 Thanks for this Tim, this blessed me. 🙏🏾

Tim, I came across this video because of Kirk. You are a real one... well done. #realtalk. And Kirk praying for you, you keep pushing.

Being Kirk 🎉( Kir😂) aint for the weak. 🙌🏾 Showing up just to play ourselves... the mike was dropped with that alone everything else was just him stepping on my toes 😊Thank you both for this episode,🎉

We need more people like Kirk, much love, blessings my brother 🙏 ❤😊 Mariam from Oakland CA.

Love this authenticity

❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽wow I appreciate this sooo much

I really needed this interview. Thank you Tim & Kirk fasho‼️ 🧎🏾‍➡️💪🏾🥇🏆💯🌎

Thanks!

Can’t wait

Wishing you smiles through it all.

Powerful!!!

I love you Kirk!!! Thank you for your honesty! People don't understand certain levels of pain because they have not been through it...real easy to tell somebody what to do from the sidelines

This was good and refreshing. I have been feeling like that for a long time. Good to hear not the only one.

Yall got to get the bside to watch the whole thing. Kirk and Tim are HILARIOUS

Oh My word the last part - "I just want to be in a room with my family and they see me for who I really Am" - wow that hit home for me.

Did yall really cut us off like that?!

He’s Been Soldout.

So powerful!!!

Already saved to my watch later folder

And man great love Tim! Way to be used

Love you Kirk, blessings, I have been listening to you since I was a teenager. You are my real brother in my head.😊❤ This is so good.

I dont listen to the Basement everyday, but when I do listen I hear a man who has a heart of fairness and mercy. We hear so much in the media about public figures and because we dont know them personally its very easy to take what we have been told and move away, many times with not a very good impression. I have listened to you give persons the opportunity to say their side which we would not normally hear. This reminds me of the heart of God, a heart of mercy, that loves us right where we are, warts and all. As believers the temptations change based on our circumstances, I see power and influence as opportunities for temptation which all of us may not have but nevertheless it presents for some. I dont envy those in the public domain and the challenge to serve God wholeheartedly standing in front of humans who can idolize the gift God has given. Tim, continue to be all that God has called you to be while being faithful to Him.

Understandable bro 🙏🏿

I love this show ❤ Blessings 🙌 😊

Yea this hella🔥🙏🏽

Tim hit it right on the nail

Bro I liked this before the interview started. I know this feeling too good. Good stuff my brother. Im the Katt that don't care about what people say lol. Seriously. Salute. Kirk much respect brother.

Thank you for creating a safe space for believers to wrestle with the complexities of living out their faith. So deep!

Watched this on the B-side app last night. Wow! Wish I can be on for the live. The chat is gonna be on 🔥. Plank eyes and Pharisees gonna be rattled!

This real good!

Let’s gooooo 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

Talk about it Tim!

Good Stuff

I love real people learn and grow and when you know go. To many people in position that's not ready your talent can put you some where but your character keeps you there

God bless you Kirk Franklin , I love you . And God does too ❤️❤️❤️

Brilliant

I absolutely love Kirk Franklin and his realness 💜💜

Wheeeewww! Love the intro music, where can I find it?

Blind & Luke warm Christians have no problem with Kirk performing with unbelievers.

WE LOVE US SOME KIRK FRANKLIN ❤

Kirk I admire your voice! Continue to advocate for yourself. I see you and love you ❤

i love you both, amazing episode. Brudda whats missing is maturity. Ballroom christians have not been truly consecrated...modern day sadducees and pharasees. passion with no knowledge no suffering no submission. Its easy to criticize having never (like Job) seen for themselves. Yall do what yall do, planting watering as our Father gives increase.. Thank you

I love the transparency but the over use of the n word is so 90s. Time to grow that vocabulary espeically coming from a black pastor. Its unnerving and im very not easily offended.

I'm so glad you have done this show. Kirk Franklin, you are always in my prayers. Your heart is pure, and your music has been a lifeline for myself and millions more. When mary anointed jesus' feet with that expensive oil some of the discipleship including jurassic who would betray Jesus were against it focusing on the value of the oil. But Jesus immediately corrected them and encouraged her to continue because her focus was on Jesus. These naysayers are focusing on the wrong thing. Instead of looking at Jesus lifting up Jesus they looking at the cost of the oil. The cost represents the world and the byproduct is the celeberty of it. The oil represents Jesus. You all keep pouring that oil. And helping people see Jesus. MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU.

Wow!!!! I see you Kir❤❤❤

Preach Kirk

Man…. I don’t ever really comment on videos but I must say, I’ve listened to the podcast and Ive watched the video. Because of the actual interview being around 2 hours and this specific video only being 30 min, (full version on the B-Side app)clearly a lot was cut but trust me guys… this is like this is like when the book is better than the movie in theaters. So much more tender details and nuances on the podcast. There’s more depth, understanding and grace for who he is, a Man of God. A hero that I’ve known longer than I’ve been alive. It’s definitely a must listen. Or if you subscribe on the B-Side app it’s a must watch 😉.

Looks like the popular thing is now when interviewed Let’s Talk about what the Church is not doing what about the great things Jesus is doing in people and through people

Nobody will ever make me hate Kirk …loved this interview ❤️

Anxiously waiting 😊