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Bravo!

Waterfront real estate is criminal imo. We have 2 coastlines crammed with private property. Hurricanes wipe them out, tax payers have to clean it up. Beaches should be public access.

And Jay just where do you live that you wouldn't complain if I destroyed your way of life?? In the city?? How about I stopped allowing you import your food while exporting your waste so you can live and say silly things online??

Elwha River basin is seeing incredible results. After these last 6 years. The way it once was . Salmon are thriving. Ecosystem flourishing. Hydro generated energy was @ 45 /50 % of what it was designed for originally. 👋✋🙏

About 25% of our food comes from the Salinas & Sacramento Rivers, so you want to take the blame for families starving?

What about the ecological disaster this stupidity caused?

What about the ecological disaster this stupidity caused? Allah looks down at this and weeps.

And look what you brought us, hundreds of thousands of fish have died off mutilating the ecosystem directly correlated to this dams removal. You caused exactly what you tried to stop.

Is your heart still dancing now that it's caused an ecological disaster?

I think human population growth is what is "killing" off the ecological system.. Maybe we should get rid of a large portion of the population that produce nothing and care for nothing.. Like people who live in the city who have destroyed their ecological system and now want to tell others how it should be done.

BOLLOCKS!! Dams do not "Kill off the whole ecological system". Dams DO alter an ecosystem. Is that good or bad? That depends on your point of view. Nature is quite capable of forming it's own dams through completely natural events. From your perspective that would make nature bad. This is ridiculous. What is natural is change and adaptions to change. Nature doesn't care if a species goes extinct. Another species will just move in or adapt to the niche. 99% of all species that have ever existed on earth are extinct and humanity had no influence on that, humanity did not exist when these events took place. Man made interventions in nature are, from natures point of view, perfectly acceptable. They are just a bigger beaver dam. Just think how many creatures are displaced just so a beaver can build it's dam.

No Grandma.. What has and is killing off the ecological system is Human over population.. Everyone is taking 10 times more from this planet than the planet can support.. INcluding YOU !! I don't see you destroying your home, way of life, and careers to fix it.. But you want others to do that under some delusion it's going to fix anything..

So true! And that doesn't even get into the effect they have in suppressing wildfires! Cheers to these fantastic critters!!!

Absolutely, and in tandem with permaculture, it is the most powerful and best way to restore habitats and ecosystems fully.

Beaver dams only ever existed up side streams as the yearly floods sluice everything down the gorge.

They must bring beavers back to slow the river and store water. They create the habitat for the salmon fry to grow and thrive.

So beaver dams are ok but not human dams?

We won't be here to enjoy. We are being removed to built the elites version of heaven on earth.

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Yes, and world peace, blah, blah....

That means less lakes and power. Although. I do want salmon to explode in population

Back to the stone age. Good job.

​@@oozlefinch7109yeah the same people crying for the removal of Dams also want open borders. They are ignorant to the fact that the population needs stored water to survive.

I never heard that the river had any Chums in it ?

The best solution for our times and the future, beavers 🦫🦫

Yup , "Beaver 🦫 Believer". ✨👍✨.

About time they're doing something for the salmon. Stupid people worrying about how to make a dollar

I love beavers. ❤ That is absolutely what's needed.

​@@gregorymillar285making a dollar is fine, but we have too many people trying to make as many dollars as they can at the expense of others.

Cheers to you!!

He drove to the river in a gasoline-powered vehicle, dressed in all the finest Chinese-made clothes Walmart has to offer while his ascites tell a story of at least 2-gallons of whiskey per week(or McDonald's on the reg). How come none of these "traditionalists" ever show up on a horse, all-ripped and dressed in buckskin? Guarantee there's an EBT card in his wallet...

@@psychosneighbor1509 I love how racist scumbags always shows their true nature.

The only thing that was brought back was a severe ecological disaster.

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

I think you forgot (as everyone in this video) that the climate is now very different.. Drier and hotter summers will practically dry up the rivers and the warmer water temperatures will cause massive fish die offs because many fish cannot survive in warmer waters that are now very prevalent.

@@tomwillis9051 Except none of that has even happened beyond a very rare occasion in very specific places. Climate change is entirely normal, as is this current climate change event we're experiencing. Moreover, I don't see how what you've said has anything to do with what I did. It does even work as a counter. And looking at many places in the deserts, its abundantly clear how permaculture using native plants and mimicking beavers has restored forests and grasslands to desertified regions. The Saheel is a great case study showing this, specifically in Niger. Another is in the Black Rock Desert of Nevada, which has a creek basin that a small coop has managed to restore back into a proper very green and healthy ecosystem despite the climate and weather being far drier and hotter. They again used permaculture of native plants, as well as reintroduced beavers which rapidly aided them in restoration. And when you do this, even in deserts, the water table, aquifers and thus groundwater all gets replenished again, and sticks around all year, no matter the weather. It turns entire basins people have thought were normally seasonal into year-round streams. So if you're of the mind that it cannot work because "the climate has changed into too dry and hot for it to work", you're actually mistaken.

@@TheCriminalViolin #1 Fish die offs due to temperature have been occuring in several rivers over the last decade. Including the Columbia and the Klamath. They are being identified and mitigated by the dams working with USFW to release large volumes of water to keep the river cool during these hot months.. It is well known but not well reported. secondly.. What I said and stand by is that this river is in a drought. It is very possible it will significantly decrease to a point fish will not be viable. Several instances in Northern California rivers doing this.. Large rivers turning to just a stream. And your glorious plan to tear out concrete dams to replace them with ones made by beavers is seemingly pointless.. If beaver dams solved the Wests drought problems (drought meaning lack of rainfall) then by definition Most of the west would not be labeled as a desert.. Lastly, while I think you truly believe your hypothesis. I am sure beavers help just as me taking a pee against a tree helps also but beavers and everything do NOT make it rain more, do not stop over population, do not stop over fishing, do not answer who is suppose to give while others take.. Two things in logical people's eye cause this #1 human species overpopulation, #2 Human technological advances.. Until you have less people living this will only get worse. Americans are spoiled with big vehicles, big houses, and consuming more than their environment can provide.. But until you stop the chinese fishing fleet from sitting 200 miles off shore with 50 mile long nets in international waters.. Tearing out dams isn't going to do a dam thing to improve salmon populations. It's only a feel good thing for ignorant fools..

less dams less food

@@ResortDog Nahh to people like these. Food comes from the Grocery store.. They say the could grow it or hunt / gather it but they don't really have time to ..

You are so right.. Like in your city.. I think we should take away the water that flowes into your house and the store that supplies it... Then you MIGHT know the uncertainty destroying entire civilizations has grown to rely on feel like.. I find it funny the native americans are complaining about fish when they get paid THOUSANDS of dollars in stipends from that loss..

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

All rivers are different, and some dams themselves create ecological disasters.

now you're talking

Wouldn't that be something.

And your house.. Omg wouldn't it be great to see your house bulldozed so where you live can return to the natural environmental state of past times.. Where the native americans lived in animal skin houses and moved around to not destroy one location..

Now you’ll have the chance to go back and run the true river. Like surfing a wave pool vs a swell thats traveled thousands of miles to peel across a reef somewhere. It hits a little different, more complex and unpredictable. Do you want predictably or true adventure?

@@craigkanish6127Not really, they screwed it up. It's an ecological disaster now.

You're talking about an area with wildfire and volcanoes, the trees will adapt and fill in just fine.

and the Columbia

Wouldn't that be a sight , to see Chinook salmon spawning in Metolius river. But how could you grow alfalfa in the desert ? ...

And the Kennebec in Maine.

Yes, let's destroy our infrastructure so no one can afford their power bill anymore. Great idea.

it needs to happen on all rivers ,, the elwah proves it,

Not to worry, all the people will be in the 15 minute cities walking and riding bikes.

These dams produce a tiny amount of electricity. If they produced more then the owners would uses their wealth to win the political fight to keep them. Hydro dams are not renewable energy in that they have massive ecological impacts.

​@vids595 those electric cars are even worse

Salmon tastes like POOP! Smelly!

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

@@Sujad the dam was the ecological disaster

@@heatherkaye8653 It really wasn't. Not compared to the disaster it now is.

@@Sujad the earth has no problems solving its issues out without human intervention. Our technologies are the problem.

Nope and they blew the sediment all over place. It's an ecological disaster now.

@@Sujad nice IMPACT STUDY.

@@shawnsanders2182 Yeah, considering the rampant bureaucracy of California, you'd think they'd have known what would happen but no, they screwed the pooch.

They created an ecological disaster.

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

Going to make it worse for salmon just like what happened here on the rogue river.

​@@brandonduarte6757Rogue has been impacted beyond repair. Too many people living along the river. Too much run off. Too much fishing pressure. Too many sea lions at the mouth. Too many boaters. Too much logging.

@@jesse75 you really need to lay off those hormone blockers and boosters. No one can be that delusional naturally.

Your salmon are dead now. The river will never be the same with 60 million yards of toxic sludge. Fools

Why? What's so good about ecological disasters?

And you live where again??

Hey those indians have to get money somehow. Government doesn't pay them enough to 'survive' the whole this is our way of life crap is a joke. What like 10% of so called 'native' Americans actually could live like they used to.... everything is given to them. Nothing I did ever hurt a colored person's family. Just stop with all this charades already. Poor me stuff. Make the white man pay.

They've done pretty well with free flowing rivers for as long as they've existed.

Dozens of dead deer stuck in the muck that have to be euthanized. Bald eagles dead. Geese dead. Otters, etc. go take a look at what they’ve done. It’s horrible

@@dukester5932 TY for the update..

Absolutely the truth. It's just another case of people blaming their bad decisions on someone else.

But you would be removing a source of green energy

@@matthewwelsh294 They are the farthest from "green". The ecological impacts have been horrendous to river systems of the west. Renewable, yes.

@@jimsomerville3924 and your "green" solution to provide energy?? And anything you say I will point out the negatives about !!

says someone who probably in on the East Coast getting energy from burning Coal ..

Same. I'm on a peaceful stretch of the river. And these obnoxious screaming rafters go by.

please save the tears, grab ahold of the new

Removing the 3 lower dams is pointless unless you remove the dams upriver. Every dam from Hells Canyon up to Milner would have to be removed to restore the habitat and water quality that salmon traditionally spawned in.

Have you checked out the Elwha River and how much it benefited from dam removal? The sediment restored the river's delta at the ocean. It's a years long process.

It's going to destroy everything downstream to the ocean. Under 4 feet of sediment. No more salmon spawning beds.

@@brandonduarte6757 Nope, wrong. Short-term possibly some issues but long-term great benefits from the sediment being released.

@@jjxtwo1 not according to local scientists. I live out here. Been listening to the scientists for a couple years now plus what happened on our rogue river. Made our fishing way worse.

@@brandonduarte6757 We can talk again in 10 years. The river will be healthy.

Amen! Well put sir!

Ouch , and true. Columbia river gillnetting is pretty disgusting . ...

​@@powderbeast5598catches the hatchery and native fish both. That's what I don't like.

Same thing on the rogue river. It made it way worse. Same thing will happen on the Klamath.

@chesterroberts4647 Don't bet on it. All this dam removal will cause the water to go straight out to the ocean, and then what will come is more drought. This is all about water control. The dams were put here for a reason. To hold back water in dry times. Well, more dry times are coming! I hope these w0k€ |\|utj0b$ are happy because they're d€$tr0y!|\|g Oregon. I can't wait to see how horrible it is here in 10 years.

​@brandonduarte6757 I did find it curious they're won't be sufficient flow to float the river in late summer, but they're confident the fish will return all the way to Klamath Lake during the fall spawn? With what water?

@underthetrees4780 going to be a creek. I also go for gold on the Klamath, so with low water, it's going to open up new spots.

Nope In fact hundreds of thousands of fish have died off due to this dams removal and the substantial and rapid change that it did to the ecosystems The salmon that they were trying to save are dying at a far more expedited rate than ever before in history.

Actually, quite the opposite. The river is ruined. The amount of sediment cannot and will not recover from. The hubris is sickening

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There is no such thing as clean energy. All forms have some sort of environmental cost.

there is cleaner energy.... @@jeffkerber2399

No such thing as climate change. It's a scam wake up. Don't be brainwashed. All predictions have been wrong and they profit off simple minded people's hysteria.

Was it not human's belief that they could do anything that has practically destroyed an ecosystem and millenia old free, renewable food source by damming it all up and thinking it would work out fine? Us assuring the natives that they're way was no longer necessary or relevant for we had technology that would render their ways archaic and obsolete? I'd look at the damn removal project on the Elwah River in Wa. State for evidence of fishery restoration. It's been a smashing success. These rivers were damned off naturally by ice, covered by glaciers off and on through various ice ages and the fish always make their way back up the rivers. At times the access was blocked over thousands of years. These damns have been there for a split second in the bigger scheme. As for power production, I'm not versed on the particulars of the damns on the Klamath, but hundreds of hydro electric damns throughout the west have been rendered obsolete and no longer provide energy in a capacity that offers much, if any, value. Many localities that used to rely on these smaller damns haven't pulled power from them in decades. Again, not sure if that's the case here, but I'd bet so. Cheers to you and we'll see how this works out. Personally I see this as man letting nature regain control instead himself thinking he can do anything. I hope that was civil and polite. I appreciate good debate and also am just fine with disagreements of opinion.

No. They return to almost the exact same location they were born. So if they were born below the dam. They will not go any further. They could put hatchery fish up stream. And that would work.

@@GOD719 how did fish find their way back up rivers as different ice sheets blocked and unblocked rivers over and over for thousands of years?

@@gabrielford3473 How is the Elwah river a "smashing" success?? I think you got your resource from the youtube academy.. Your comments are not only vague but just plain silly.. What "renewable" food source are you talking about?? a Few thousand salmon?? Do you know how many people live off the salmon?? It's supplmental at best to a families diet.. I do not know of a single native american that lives in a traditional way of live.. Even in this video Troy crying got his over weight butt out of a Brand new Tax payer paid for 3/4 ton pickup to go look at fish on a bridge over the precious river.. Is he the one you are saying is going to his native american technology from a century ago cooking a fish head?? So no.. Tearing out the dams is going to viewed at BEST a social experiment. My guess it will eventually be viewed negatively and a dam of some source will be needed to be rebuilt so it will hold back water for hot and dry summer periods that the rivers dry up or get too hot for fish.. But companies like Pacificorp just don't want the fight anymore, will tear them out, and be able to say play the win/win card.. If the experiment is a success then everyone's happy.... If it's a disaster (which is what I predict) they will be able to say I was forced to do it and I told you so..

@@tomwillis9051 Well, I guess my career as an environmental (not environmentalist) educator will take a backseat to your "predictions. The fact that I don't deeply involve myself with your nonsense is no indication of me losing an argument. Your just too exhausting with tired, uninformed arguments and I'm more interested in debate with people who are POLITE AND CIVIL, dick

And look what happened, hundreds of thousands of fish are dying off specifically due to this damns removal and the substantial changes to the ecosystems that they were not prepared for. All of these fishes deaths are directly correlated to that damn's removal. Full stop.

Salmon won't return to the klamath Basin at all. 1. There's a 40' natural waterfall. 2. They won't spawn in pumice.

The corporations never lose, only their cheap power using customers. The assests were stripped from PP&L by hedge funds decades ago.

The river is destroyed. All the fish, insects, otters dead. Nice work. Hope is not a strategy.

​@@samstheman6178 the river is fine. Why do you lie? I was there yesterday, it's running clear again. This is a monumental project that will go down in history as one of the greatest things man ever did. It's just sad that some anti-government, conspiracy theorist, haters want to discredit anything that benefits the environment or natural world.