Knife Knowledge: Green Brick of Joy! Naniwa 2k (2000 grit) Whetstone

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This episode is an exploration into a unique stone. This whetstone has its own reputation. Naniwa has always been a fantastic company. This whetstone is an opportunity for them to show that you only need one whetstone stone. Let there only be one. It has been around for a while. It is 2 1/2 inches thicker than your average whetstone. It straddles the line between sharpening and polishing. In this video, we use the infamous, Masamoto KS Shirogami (White Paper) #2. I felt it was important to test this theory on a knife that I had sharpened many times before. I don't believe that the stone is good for sharpening something that is extremely dull. I do believe, by the video evidence presents that you can use this stone to maintain your knives and bring them back to a sharpness that is above and beyond. Enjoy our demonstration. We have included some links below. No commissions are paid on these links. These are provided for your convenience. There will be one link below to the Atoma 1200 and 400 plates that I normally use for flattening. In this video I do flatten the stone and raise a slurry with the 1200 grit Atoma. I will include a link for that and that is an Amazon affiliate link. It does pay a commission.
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@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын

Man, where has this channel been hiding? Right on

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

Well I’m glad we found each other

@nietztsuki 3 жыл бұрын

I have used the Green Brick on and off for several years. I like it, but it does have its quirks. My take: It performs and polishes much higher than it's stated grit -- more like a 5K stone. I use it as a splash & go; there's no need to soak. It is, however, VERY soft and loads up and dishes out easily. For that reason edge leading strokes must be done with care to avoid gashing into the stone. I generally use an edge trailing stroke. If one can live with all that, it's a very nice stone.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

You definitely have more insight than I do. You’ve used it for a long time. I appreciate your input.

@Phuong_Nguyen_ Жыл бұрын

What’s the highest grit I need to sharpen a pocket knife?

@jeronimomacias481 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and a joyful stone. Love it.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I appreciate you being here always. Your support is amazing. It is a fun Stone

@labradoolepapa 2 жыл бұрын

I've recently started looking at my edges with a 15x loop and it has really helped me know exactly what is happening. Thank you for your informative videos :0)

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. We love learning from you. Please continue to share. Happy new year!

@davesmith5656 2 жыл бұрын

I've used the Green Brick of Joy and for me it's kind of a litmus test for getting my bevel set right. I use a USB microscope (I know - "training wheels"). I can get what looks like a perfectly even bevel on a Naniwa pro (Chosera) 400, and 1K. then go to the Green Brick and uh-oh, the bevel wasn't as good as I had thought! The 2K really polishes it up fast and shows mistakes. When I get it clean with the 2K, I can go to a 10k and a strop and I have sub-100 Bess. The 2k is a difficult stone to learn to use correctly, is my take on it. A Chosera 400 is almost a beginner's stone, it's so easy. But like the man said, he's going with a knife he knows. The 2k is the same - it requires knowing. Then, it's a terrific stone.

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

I agree that if you don’t know what the burr feels like then it’s hard to do it on the 2K. You gotta know first and then you can mess around

@simonboyden7868 2 жыл бұрын

Great videos keep up the great work

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@THC800 2 жыл бұрын

I love that intro. Very original lol

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@trappenweisseguy27 3 жыл бұрын

I love big stones, so this has been on my radar for some time. I have a 25 year old 1200 grit stone that has definitely seen better days and could be a candidate for retirement. It’s much smaller now than when new lol. Good thing you flattened it first as synthetic stones have a reputation for having a “skin” that performs differently than the rest of the stone. Speaking of cork, you could cut a piece of cork to fit under your bridge there under the middle to stop the bridge from flexing up and down.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tip!

@robinsharkey6658 3 жыл бұрын

This stone in conjunction with the old Lobster 4K is my old keep at work set. Love what the combo does for knives intended for large volume prep.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

I am just becoming familiar with this. Thank you for your insight. I’ll have to look for that

@robinsharkey6658 3 жыл бұрын

@@nadm hunt for it, the prices are all over the place! Also make sure to check sizing as they come in a very small size that is great for smaller knives but a pain for larger.

@chrismorris3897 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

Love you brother! Thanks for watching

@schleifjunkieshannsplag8635 3 жыл бұрын

u cut me in half :))) well done Gregory

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

I love you sir! I look up to you

@sonkekoster3105 3 жыл бұрын

Great recommendation I will look out for that stone. This stone plus my 6000 natural stone (Belgium Brick) would be a nice combination for complete knife maintenace.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! If you’re a person that maintains your knives then you have everything you need.

@TheGreenBrickOfWisdom Ай бұрын

Green Brick.

@ottohonkala6861 3 жыл бұрын

It is a very bi-polar stone that can do a lot of things very well - but it can also frustrate you to the extreme.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like you have a lot of experience. We appreciate any pointers you might want to give us on the stone

@ottohonkala6861 3 жыл бұрын

@@nadm Pressure seems the key to me as it is a slow stone....With high pressure it will create a very high polish...untill you press so hard that it bites into the edge....It works great but like said - its either slow or unforgiving....IMHO

@baldwin9281 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that take on the green brick of joy 🤩 I’m probably thinking cerax/rika 1000/5000 or cho 800/3000, but have been curious where this soaker 2000 would exist just cause it’s so cool. I need it. Just not sure why. (This doesn’t slow me down usually 😂) Great teamwork- us guys who are survivors know the pecking order!

@baldwin9281 2 жыл бұрын

While I’m here - as you see I’m in purchase mode. Basically deciding soaker vs splash n go. Been sharpening on mid/cheap stuff or systems for a while and the experience isn’t very enjoyable. Plan is one of the two mentioned and like a Shapton pro 320 in the basement or maybe an atoma plate that would double duty as flattener. Thoughts if you would please? Thank you 😊 Sub’d

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

@@baldwin9281 I own everything that you mentioned and I love them all. I don't know your budget but I would definitely make sure you could flatten your stones first. The 320 isn't that aggressive if you already have a 400. I would go down to the 220 to just do the work a little faster. If you're already going to be grinding that much material off might as will be a little bit more aggressive. I like splash and goes over soaking stones. I do like the stone and we're getting ready to do a whetstone war with it.

@baldwin9281 2 жыл бұрын

@@nadm thank you! I’m looking at probably an Atoma 140 that I can do double duty with. Budget is such that I can buy the better stones - but no free lunch. It has to make sense. Not worried about high polish. I much prefer Katsumi. Is the splash n go preference just ease of use? Thanks again! Marc

@baldwin9281 2 жыл бұрын

@@nadm how much of a ripper is the Atoma 400? Any experience? When I need to REALLY remove stock I have ceramic belts and 8” diamond wheels (the latter being INSANELY expensive but handy) so I’m trying to figure my best move here in the low grit space for now. Knowing me now that I’ve opened this can of worms I’ll end up owning everything eventually anyway. Just timing Thanks 🙏

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re not a true hard-core white stone person then you don’t need it. If you’ve got all of that then you’re fine. If you’re a Whetstone person you need it to flatten your stones. You don’t need it for your knife

@davesmith5656 2 жыл бұрын

Not to let on about my activities, but you can use a 6lb test monofilament Spiderwire. The calibrated Edge-On-Up filament is like $20+ bucks for 325 tests. If you allow a generous 4" per test, that's somewhere around 100 feet of line. If you've ever gone for them easily spooked fish (and tree branches), you know you get 300 YARDS of Grade A+ line for around $8 bucks. And it has low memory (if you know what that means). The 10lb. line is stronger, the 4lb. line is weaker. I have yet to run full comparisons, but I know that if I get 140 grams on 10lb test, that's likely below 100 on their calibrated line. How nerdy can one get? Testing 20 times on a 240mm knife just to be sure?

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

So, I get really nailed by people in videos if I don’t use something that’s BESS certified. I’ve had a lengthy conversations with people who won’t let it go. I can definitely do something like what you’re saying for my own self but I could never put it in a video. You’ve got to live up to everyone’s expectations!

@skyxlight 3 жыл бұрын

Since naniwa sink bridge already has a mechanism that locks the stone in place, is there a special reason to use a stone holder on top of it?

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

I like the rubberized feeling. It makes it not clangy. The metal is a little noisier

@olan5668 3 ай бұрын

What coarse stone (400 - 600 grit) would bridge the gap between extra coarse stones (100s - 200s grit) and Naniwa's 2k stone (NP and NA/GBJ)?

@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын

Well, I wish we got a chance to play on some stones.

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know how you could afford those diamond stones. Just one of those is equal to an entire system of another company

@shannonandsheila1403 2 жыл бұрын

The red brick 1k at chef knives to go is amazing

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

I had noticed that one the other day. I'll have to look into it. I love that company.

@shannonandsheila1403 2 жыл бұрын

@@nadm do you will like it. That company is the best for me. 👍

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

@@shannonandsheila1403 I love it. It can do it all. It can sharpen and polish

@adamwhiteson6866 2 жыл бұрын

Nice demo. Thanks. I love those big bricks! A one stop stone? Perhaps but nobody who follows this ch is going to stick to just one stone? :)

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how much you can get done on one stone. It's so versatile. It really is the only one you need provided that you never really let it get too dull in the first place.

@troyschonke6304 2 жыл бұрын

@@nadm I'm really enjoying your video's, thank you for what your doing, especially the stone wars! I'm actually just getting started in the world of Japanese wetstones and hoping you can help me with a little as I am looking for a really basic setup, for home and in the field/on the go... I'm drawn to the green brick and I think it's finish, followed by a strop(at most) will suffice for my EDC pocket knives, hunting/meat processing and all our kitchen knives, my question is, do you think it would be feasible to jump from a shapton pro 1k to the brick? Trying to keep it low budget and cover all my needs with a minimal investment while garnering maximum results, so all in with only 3 items... The green brick of joy glued to the shapton pro 1000(21cm×7cm×7cm, no stone holder needed) and the atoma140 for lapping and any blade chips or major edge repairs, am I offside in thinking this would work well? your opinion would be greatly appreciated sir, if you have the time ofcourse, thank you again:)

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

@@troyschonke6304 if your knife doesn't really get that dull it's just a little bit dull then you only need the 2000 grit. If it's truly doll then I would use the 1000 and then you don't really need to pay unless you want to use it. I have videos on set up in my playlist and I'll put a link. If you're actually using the knife all the time than the 1000 is gonna be the one stone you can take out to the woods without having to carry the humongous green brick of joy. Japanese natural white stones are a different topic altogether. We will be doing a series once I am healed from my car accident. It'll be a minute because you have to think of them differently. They don't come in great. They are made by nature and so there's a lot to talk about. If you're the outdoorsman then depending on the knife, you might want to carry the Naniwa diamond compact fieldstone. It is small and it will do everything you needed to do. EDC pocket knives come in a variety of different steel. Because of the different molecular make up. You might want to just get the diamond stone because it will work on every different type of steel.

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

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@troyschonke6304 2 жыл бұрын

@@nadm thank you kindly sir, I'm sorry to hear about your accident, God always has a reason for slowing us down even though we don't necessarily see it as such, I hope and pray you have a speedy recovery! I actually have spyderco double stuff 2 for when I'm on foot or packing light, what I'm aiming for is a more serious, long term setup for home, taking to friends and families, maybe even using at the farmers market someday for a little side business and to help pass the time... I'm off to follow your link now and continue working my way through your content, it's been extremely informative and quite helpful, not to mention entertaining:)

@bobdobalina8680 2 жыл бұрын

@NeveraDullMoment will this stone work on Yu Kurosaki SG/r2 stainless

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

It definitely should. This stone has been incredible every time we’ve ever used it. We are still messing around with the different types of stones for the type of steel you’re referring to. You definitely have a reason to be concerned because of the hardness of the steel. I have not found that anything has prevented me from sharpening it. Sometimes it just takes a little longer. This stone has been just an incredible performer and some thing I think everyone should have in their arsenal.

@andrebaran7337 3 жыл бұрын

Where was this a week ago I didn’t realize I could do everything with one stone😜

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

LOL!

@robinsharkey6658 3 жыл бұрын

You ain't gonna thin anything with it, but it is a great stone.

@Sanshin04 3 жыл бұрын

Great as always. I liked it very much. Is it a stone also for beginners or rather for those who already know what to do? Knife cutting is always great. Please next time closer to the camera ;) God bless you and the whole your family ;)

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

I always appreciate suggestions. I will definitely follow up on that. I do think you need to know how to get a burger with some thing a little courser. You have to know what you’re feeling for. He created a micro burr. I don’t know that everyone would know what that feels like

@Sanshin04 3 жыл бұрын

@@nadm thanks for the answer. I have one more question. You have already worked many stones. In retrospect, what first serious set would you choose? Assuming you've already sharp a bit on cheap stones. I'm talking about grit and name of companes. Thank you ;)

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

I am at work. Please give me the rest of the day to answer this question. It’s kind of intense

@nadm 3 жыл бұрын

Suehiro has been my favorite for a while. The Morihei Feels like you own a Porsche. You have to understand the micro bevel that it gives to be able to appreciate how great they are. I don’t know if you’re a beginner could feel that. I’m getting ready to use the king for the first time. I’m excited to see what everyone’s been saying about that. Naniwa professional has been tried and true for so long. They are super stones and professional stones are of the highest level. They have really good feedback. I think the super stones come in at a good price. Overall I really love the Suehiro product and believe that there Cerax Line can give you good results at an inexpensive price. I’m not a big fan of soaking stones anymore. They do an amazing job but you have to have time to soak them. All of them are somewhat comparable in price. You and I both know that the professional series is a little bit more of an investment but will pay off overtime. I think a person who is getting in should jump up to the professional level if they have the money

@Sanshin04 3 жыл бұрын

@@nadm thanks for sharing your experience ;) I fully agree that after some time it is worth investing in a good stone. Even sometimes it is worth saving a little longer what I was doing to buy something good. That's why I was looking for advice not to overpay and to have the right set. I will let you know what and how it ended. When you talk about micro bevel you are talking about doing on 15 degre extra ending on 20 degre.

@niftytubeman 2 жыл бұрын

Soak it nicely. Dry it slow. Slurry is marvelous. Cork is not silly.

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@ForsakenShadow1994 2 жыл бұрын

Where is your apron from? I need one in my life

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

I will have to go back and find it. I've had it for a while. I'm about to be sponsored by a company for my apron and knife roll. A lot of people have been talking about them and they reached out to me. They're called hide master. But I will find this one for you and let you know. It was an expensive and I got it on Amazon for $30. I'll have to find it I didn't get back to you. I apologize for it taking a while I gotta go to work. You're more than welcome to call me out again if I forget

@nadm 2 жыл бұрын

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@ForsakenShadow1994 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing thank you! And I'm exicted to see your new apron when u do a video on it

@marshallmanchester-lk8cz Жыл бұрын

It seems to me you deburred at a lower angle than you sharpened. I am not trying to criticize and I am sure you are a better sharpener than me but it looks like you went from 15 degrees to almost flat against the stone and probably still had a burr.

@nadm Жыл бұрын

So, I finish my last strokes flatter. I use my first strokes as a way of getting off the burr. I do my last strokes as a way to flatten out the edge.

@user-un5my5bw4j Жыл бұрын

I absolutely do not like the green brick stone. I am all about Naniwa stones but this is the most over hyped stone that says Naniwa on it. I love 2000grit stones. Its a very overlooked grit that is an excellent maintainer, but I use the 2K Chosera its such a better stone with better 5 times the feedback, tactile feel, and faster. I use 2K Cosera so much I am on my third one from wearing the first two down to nothing until they broke.