Knights Misconceptions

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Theorymus

Theorymus

3 жыл бұрын

In this video we will be talking about Knights, which include the 12 Guardian Knights, Optimus Prime, and the Dinobots! We will also talk about with how they connect to Lockdown and Quintessa!
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@J3keEditz
@J3keEditz 3 жыл бұрын
The king of fixing the bayverse has returned
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yea 👍
@coolerreviews6580
@coolerreviews6580 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Pls do what if Sentinel survived
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
The Transformers movies directed by Michael Bay
@coolerreviews6580
@coolerreviews6580 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus yes
@ChristianHernandez-yt
@ChristianHernandez-yt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Could you please do a video on What if Sentinel Prime survived
@marilugallegos4969
@marilugallegos4969 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, one man can explain an entire movie franchise, unlike an entire production crew
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus ok this might be true that but I think Steel Ban or the Red knight is OPTIMUS 's dad
@Carpediem357
@Carpediem357 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundwavedits2012 that’s a massive stretch.
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Carpediem357 i know
@marilugallegos4969
@marilugallegos4969 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most likes I have ever gotten
@wurmrave6831
@wurmrave6831 3 жыл бұрын
When a fan understands the bayverse franchise more than a room of professional script writers
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@Mrdotoomuchfr
@Mrdotoomuchfr 2 жыл бұрын
@Grand Zi-O Princess I mean yea they are🤷‍♂️ they are professional and worked on so many blockbuster films for universal and other movies. They just care about profit.
@disclaimer.imjokin
@disclaimer.imjokin 2 жыл бұрын
It's not understanding its making sense of bad writing. I'm a fan of the 1st 3. 4 and 5 are terrible
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 2 жыл бұрын
The Bayverse was never meant to be 100% canon though, it was meant to be its own take on the Transformers while still referencing the original content, which I believed it achieved perfectly. Galvatron was a bit wacky and far-fetched, but still very interesting.
@davudisbarkhanli549
@davudisbarkhanli549 Жыл бұрын
Fault of Hasbro and Paramount
@shakedown3268
@shakedown3268 3 жыл бұрын
Even the smallest details that no one, not even the writers considered to be anything but 'something cool' , you gave it meaning and a reason to actually exist and have relevance rather than just a throwaway plot device. Thank you Trans Theories
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help, that's my job 🤟
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
Protect the staff
@markoalidinata6736
@markoalidinata6736 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: No you can't just create everything into knights because you like them Quintessa: Knight fetish go brrrr
@Thatdistantmirage
@Thatdistantmirage 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@derikkudesu6294
@derikkudesu6294 2 жыл бұрын
she wants the long sword
@krishnish2064
@krishnish2064 2 жыл бұрын
Derikku Desu there’s a reason the staff can shrink an grow :3
@user-xr3ul2xc1l
@user-xr3ul2xc1l 2 жыл бұрын
@@krishnish2064 millions of years later, she still wants her "staff" back. Honestly I don't blame her... with a staff that big, oh how many thing you could do.
@ANW115
@ANW115 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xr3ul2xc1l hahahahaha
@twister107
@twister107 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the Guardian knights look techno-organic already, considering the fact that one of the damaged ones had a skull in their head. Maybe the Guardian Knights were Quintessa's first attempt at this? Also, they look like they are made of stone or clay. Bout as brittle as it too.
@Shuu__
@Shuu__ 2 жыл бұрын
Well it was probably because these guys protected the alspark but when optimus sent the alspark off cybertron they had to find it and when they found it on earth they probably spent a lot of time there just a theory correct me if I’m wrong
@Shuu__
@Shuu__ 2 жыл бұрын
Spent time guarding the alspark on earth
@wonderfulwalrus5715
@wonderfulwalrus5715 10 ай бұрын
Well transformers have skeletons. Even in comics and otber sources
@LightningZetton
@LightningZetton 3 жыл бұрын
even to bayverse is over prime shall always be remembered as a knight other than a truck
@EthanC-km6ku
@EthanC-km6ku 3 жыл бұрын
Because all the truck parts went.......... somewhere...........
@Oakley-Studios
@Oakley-Studios 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom true that
@taytayconyers6409
@taytayconyers6409 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@EthanC-km6ku
@EthanC-km6ku 3 жыл бұрын
Actually they should not have kept that end credits scene. Like the normal ending in which optimus and the others return to cybertron is perfect to end the series.
@ProtonTheProtogen
@ProtonTheProtogen 3 жыл бұрын
True but I like to think he would be better of as a truck instead of a MONKE (gorrila) or that weird superman ship that is optimal optimus
@mattdawg83686
@mattdawg83686 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing that continues to baffle me about the Bayverse is that with every movie they change something which results in a soft reboot, and expect us not to notice.
@tacticalpossum7090
@tacticalpossum7090 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, because theyre movies about action figures. Very, very few people care.
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just have you as the directior You clearly care more than the dudes in charge
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
That's the dream
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus I'd buy it
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do the decepricons have better designs then the autobots
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
I like both imo
@donshovi9345
@donshovi9345 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus frenzy is my favorite
@mvbruh6282
@mvbruh6282 3 жыл бұрын
Something nice about trans is he likes everyone’s comments so it’s nice to know he reads them :)
@Darwin-sama
@Darwin-sama 3 жыл бұрын
And reply when you ask questions
@dr_Matt-nc3ne
@dr_Matt-nc3ne Жыл бұрын
I think the 12 Guardian Knights were the ones created by Quintessa to battle the other Creators, and only after realizing their mistake did they betray her. I think the Cybertronian Knights were just Cybertronian explorers, which would explain how the Dinobots were able to take Dinosaur forms (Maybe they visited Cretaceous Earth and took the form of Dinosaurs there).
@mikyxxvii
@mikyxxvii 10 ай бұрын
But I think Transformers can only take the form of metallic objects or something, so probably the "Cybertronian Knights" came after the Earth was cyberformed
@BlooMonkiMan
@BlooMonkiMan 10 ай бұрын
And I assume the Dinobots were followed by the other creators?
@Ar_Tank
@Ar_Tank 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how the knights look. Never would've imagined we'd ever get transformers that look like medieval knights
@ciomuda2406
@ciomuda2406 3 жыл бұрын
The knights are cool especially with Optimus being the holy one and Megatron being the corrupted one. And of course One shall stand One shall fall
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
Megatron was not always a Knight He was made one by Quintessa
@vakamatoaoffire4948
@vakamatoaoffire4948 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundwavedits2012 so does optimus
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@vakamatoaoffire4948 no OPTIMUS PRIME was always a Knight
@vakamatoaoffire4948
@vakamatoaoffire4948 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundwavedits2012 i'm telling he was created by quintessa just like megatron
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@vakamatoaoffire4948 yeah I know
@gagesmithburg7364
@gagesmithburg7364 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s my theory on the Primes, Knights, Quintessons, and the other Transformers along with the wars. This is a very long theory so probably best to read the “short” version. TLDR: 7 Primes created by Primus to defeat Unicron. Primus goes to sleep while the Primes and Quintessons create the Transformers. Iacon Knights, Dinobots and Orion/Optimus are created. Eventually Sentinel and Megatron (who is a random Transformer) are born. Primes are drawn to Unicron and Megatronus falls his influence. Big battle for the matrix and the Quintessons take control of Cybertron while Sentinel serves as a public figurehead. The Fallen works in the shadows. Quintesson civil war breaks out with Quintessa winning. The Knights go with Quintessa to the Quintesson homeworld and betray her. Iacon knights establish Iacon and Orion has his mind wiped. The Fallen corrupts Megatron and the civil war starts. Optimus is made a prime. Dinobots leave and Lockdown is employed by the surviving Quintessons. The Iacon knights leave for Earth. Megatron and Sentinel make their deal, Allspark and Megatron go to Earth. Shockwave, Soundwave, and Starscream publicly lead the Decepticons. Iacon Knights are awakened by Merlin during the Saxon invasion and the Wiccan Society is formed after their departure from England. Fallen sends out the Seekers to find the Matrix, Allspark, and Megatron. Bumblebee and Hot Rod are sent to Earth to find the Allspark. Secret war between the Seekers, Earth Autobots, and refugees is fought. Sentinel completes the space bridge and crashes on the moon. Optimus is now leader and Cybertron is abandoned. The Nemesis crashes on Europa and some Decepticons are sent to Earth. Barricade learns of Project Iceman and Blackout comes to Earth. Optimus regains his Knight memories while fighting Lockdown in Mexico. At some point Quintessa escapes to Cybertron and creates a new army. Primus is now becoming like Unicron due to all the plant growth. The 7 original primes were created by Primus with the use of the Allspark to help him defeat Unicron. After Primus went into hibernation the Quintessons made contact with the Primes which would lead to them creating the first generation of Transformers with the aid of the Allspark which would have been responsible for the creation of the Primes, Primus and Unicron. Since the Primes and the Quintessons were allied they never had a war. At this time both groups of knights and Optimus (who would have named Orion Pax) would be created. At some point the Matrix was created, which could have been the key to making Unicron go into hibernation. As the Primes used their Star Harvesters to create energon, they would be led to Earth by Unicron. When the Primes reached Earth, Unicron managed to turn Megatronus/The Fallen to his side, causing the first civil war. After the battle ended on Earth, The Fallen and his army killed all of the Prime loyalists and returned to Cybertron to work in the shadows since the Quintessons had taken control of the planet. Sentinel Prime would have been made a prime since he was in the process of becoming one and would now serve as a figurehead to allow Quintesson control. Then the Quintesson civil war happened with Quintessa winning. Both Quintessa, the Dinobots, the Iacon Knights and Orion Pax went to the Quintessan homeworld. This is where the Knights betrayed Quintessa who would then be imprisoned while the Knights went back to Cybertron. Orion would have his memories wiped and would serve as Sentinel Prime’s student. Eventually The Fallen would get the gladiator Transformer that would become Megatron to come to his side and lead a revolution against Sentinel. Orion would become Optimus and then the second Transformer civil war starts. At some point the Dinobots left with the Knight ship and would be captured by Lockdown. Lockdown at this time would be one of the many mercenaries, he being the most infamous, aiding both factions but he would eventually work for the Quintessons, not Quintessa. Once Cybertron was nearly destroyed the Iacon knights left since Iacon was going to be destroyed and they needed to protect the staff from The Fallen and Sentinel. After they left, Sentinel and Megatron made their deal, with Sentinel sending the Allspark into space on a course for Earth with Megatron following. The Allspark and Megatron would have reached Earth sometime around the Old Kingdom of Egypt to give a timeframe for when it would have arrived. The Iacon Knights would have already been on Earth in hibernation. When the Saxon invasion of Celtic England in the 500s began is when Merlin eventually met Stormreign and awoke the Knights seen in the TLK prologue. After the Saxons had gained enough land to push Arthur and the Celts into what would have been Wales is when the Knights left since the major war had come to a stalemate. The Wiccan Society that formed from Arthur’s knights and Merlin would be created with their role of keeping the Transformers hidden from the rest of the world given to them by Stormreign. Cogman would be the only Transformer from the Iacon ship left behind to serve the Society. The Fallen would send out the Seekers whose main role was to find the Matrix on Earth but also find the Allspark and Megatron. The Transformer refugees that reached Earth would have been drawn by the three artifacts on the planet and Unicron, hence why Transformers have always been drawn to the planet. The Seekers and the refugees would fight each other, leading to the few Transformers known to be in hibernation in RotF and TLK. Only the Transformers at Castle Folger and the Seekers across Earth would be the only survivors. Bumblebee and Hot Rod were sent to Earth because Sentinel didn’t trust the Seekers so he wanted them to find the Allspark. Hot Rod would remain in Europe while Bee would go to the US after WW2. At this point in the war Soundwave, Shockwave, and Starscream were the public leaders of the Decepticons and were helping Sentinel finish the creation of the space bridge pillars based on the space bridge tools the Primes and G1 transformers had. Sentinel would finish his space bridge project in 1962 (I don’t remember when the space race to the moon started). Then the DotM past events would happen but the Ark chase was supposed to be a coverup but the Decepticon that shot down the Ark was never told of Sentinel’s mission. Optimus would become the Autobot leader and the war would eventually get to the point where all Transformers abandoned Cybertron. The Fallen would take the Nemesis to Earth but crashed on Europa, he would then send out the 07 Decepticons and Shockwave to Earth while he and Soundwave tried to save as many Decepticons as possible. Somehow Hot Rod and Bumblebee defeated Shockwave and froze him at the pace where he was located in the DotM game. At this time Jetfire would go into hibernation because he too little energon to stay active and would go to rest while on a US base where a Blackbird wouldn’t out of place. He would have learned in his time on Earth that the humans may have found the Tomb of the Primes, hence the riddle he would tell Sam. Barricade and Frenzy would learn of Project Iceman in 07 and Blackout would come to Earth starting the first movie. Optimus would get his Knight memories back when fighting Lockdown in Mexico. Quintessa would escape and return to Cybertron after the planet had been ripped in half and then the part above Earth in DotM was sent crashing back into the other half. She would try to heal Primus since he was nearly killed by the space bridge. As he heals, he becomes like Unicron due to being near suns and his organic metal.
@Im_DJ
@Im_DJ 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your hardwork👍
@busterwolf9528
@busterwolf9528 2 жыл бұрын
Man,that's sound so good
@nutjurg
@nutjurg Жыл бұрын
This actually solved my questions about the primes the quintessons and why bee was in ww2
@yoowoosung1124
@yoowoosung1124 Жыл бұрын
Very good bro
@BlitzStudiosIsinsideyourhome
@BlitzStudiosIsinsideyourhome 3 жыл бұрын
I think the logo on optimus’ sword got there when cybertron started to get closer to earth because his sword might be a sign of the apocalypse like the talisman
@RenMatoi
@RenMatoi 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly want one more bayverse film because the cliffhanger is so annoying that we'll never get to see the ending
@geraldsorenson6073
@geraldsorenson6073 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's kind of too bad that the bumblebee movie is a reboot, as opposed to a prequel, as it means we'll probably never find out what happens with Unicron, what quintessa will do, and were Megatron ended up. Maybe in 30 years we'll get a conclusion to the Bay films.
@PocketBroccoli
@PocketBroccoli 9 ай бұрын
I really wanna see another Bayverse film even if it has continuity issues. The cgi is just so beautiful.
@Weakeyedominant
@Weakeyedominant 9 ай бұрын
​@@PocketBroccolithe CGI costs on bayverse movies likely make them unworkable. The storey line was tertiary to the CGI special effects and having victoria secret models prancing around with no acting ability.
@kitkat_sans9090
@kitkat_sans9090 20 күн бұрын
Micheal bay was fired from being a director to the movies, eventually ending the whole bayverse film even though he didn't want to And he already had 3-4 movies planned as well after the last knight, and I don't think he would ever just stop on The last knight since he still wasn't done I saw a leak saying he was going to make a bumblebee movie, the 2018 reboot bumblebee was supposed to be a Micheal bay film but since he was fired, the idea of bayverse bumblebee's story was scrapped and the bumblebee movie idea was adopted by Travis knight If Micheal bay wasn't fired he would probably have made a bumblebee movie as a prequel to the first transformers film and then make the sequel to The last knight movie, where Unicron was waking up and quintessa still alive
@samsarex4318
@samsarex4318 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is what you call a great crusade
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@gilchrist8909
@gilchrist8909 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus The unholy crusade
@Darwin-sama
@Darwin-sama 3 жыл бұрын
@@gilchrist8909 ?
@samsarex4318
@samsarex4318 3 жыл бұрын
Stormrage: WE WILL TAKE JERUSAL I MEAN IACON DEUS VULT
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus i think that Optimus was going to kill Quintessa with out thinking twice cuz she is a creator and the creators made the seed and the seed could kill his human friends and we know what Orion Pax looks like he looks like Optimus in the Last Knight and AOE but is Blue and Orange with Red flames and would transform to what he Transformed into in the Bumble Bee movie cuz OPTIMUS was always a Knight and Steel Ban is older than Prime cuz i think he is Optimus 's Dad
@ratmatat
@ratmatat 3 жыл бұрын
This is more confusing than my homework thankfully this video is here to help.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Protect the staff
@believer4002
@believer4002 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought about what if Cade's talisman formed as an armour around his body as well as a sword. That would have made him more suitable for battle, as well as it looks more cool and giving Cade something of significance to do in the end. Another ending could be, fx: Quintessa has the staff on the chamber, Cade races towards it with excalibur to slice it, they both race towards it, Hot-rod shooting slow-mo gun at them, and then Cade barely manages to slice it in half before he gets hit with Quintessa's sparkles. There, Cade's important talisman wouldn't have just been dropped off never mentioned again, and we would have got an explanation for what happened to merlin's staff. As I don't recall the ending besides Vivian dragging it off the chamber,after that there were no mentioning of the staff. If you would choose, what would you have done with Cade's sword/talisman after he used it trans theories? As well as staff? Any good suggestions?
@salsaspartan7
@salsaspartan7 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the movie, Optimus is seen holding the staff and flies off into cybertron with it.
@believer4002
@believer4002 2 жыл бұрын
@@salsaspartan7 yes my fault, I picked it up last time I saw it. I guess he used it to rebuild Cybertron. But it would still been better if they had some better usage of it in the final battle since it is the «all great powerful weapon». Seems like the writers forgot what they brought up in the prologue , when they said that the staff controls the dragon, and then in the final battle the dragon transforms and has a will of their own. Now it is just a key for the portal of draining earth… guess that’s alright but still wanted some cooler stuff with it
@Smashboi76
@Smashboi76 2 жыл бұрын
They were trying to turn cade into ROM space knight. That's why he was given the sword
@_somestuff
@_somestuff 2 жыл бұрын
I'd remove the macguffins and lessen on the knights storyline.
@someguyyoucanttrust1959
@someguyyoucanttrust1959 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Michael bay cares about the money the movie makes,than having logic and background story of the movie
@coolerreviews6580
@coolerreviews6580 3 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen,he cares,just that because he thinks he’s the director he puts everything that comes across his mind
@sabix2005
@sabix2005 3 жыл бұрын
he also cares about making women looking they are'nt human beings i heard that in a video about why people hate the bayformers
@believer4002
@believer4002 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabix2005 are you 7 years old or something? Aren’t humans wtf 😂
@sabix2005
@sabix2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@believer4002 i'm 15 how old are you
@believer4002
@believer4002 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabix2005 22, but you gotta write more thorough. It’s very annoying reading stuff like you just wrote. If you criticize Bay at least elaborate what you’re trying to say. He films women very leery and sexualized is one of the reasons ppl dislike it
@speedflashanimations221
@speedflashanimations221 3 жыл бұрын
the concept of the knights has potencial and they should re do this idea in the future
@rosanirodrigues557
@rosanirodrigues557 3 жыл бұрын
What if Starscream joins the Autobots instead of the Decepticons in the film series?
@chriscarpenter3370
@chriscarpenter3370 3 жыл бұрын
awesome! a new series covering what would happen if characters joined opposite factions!
@aleximusmagnus
@aleximusmagnus 3 жыл бұрын
Impossible
@chriscarpenter3370
@chriscarpenter3370 3 жыл бұрын
@@basedpota nobody said it was
@louissusanto2583
@louissusanto2583 3 жыл бұрын
Well Starscream is like Jetfire if he do dat lol
@accountoffline4960
@accountoffline4960 3 жыл бұрын
Uhh starscream is kinda dead so
@treyrex5987
@treyrex5987 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you're able to explain the Knights so well. I was so damn confused as to where the hell they came from and why they were so important now into the Bayverse universe. Not that I hate them.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime man 👍
@treyrex5987
@treyrex5987 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus 😊
@chadbinette3201
@chadbinette3201 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why Optimus was never going to fight the guardian knights? He was just going to accept them killing him ? Bee was ready to defend him if I remember and Kade ended up stopping then with the sword. I always wondered that.
@sdm47
@sdm47 Жыл бұрын
because after he broke out of Quintessa’s programming he was overcome with shame
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just his sense of honor. He was sentenced to death by his superiors, so he just accepted it.
@gigasigma8373
@gigasigma8373 Жыл бұрын
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 Optimus is the superior of the transformers mate. Hes a Prime.
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 Жыл бұрын
@@gigasigma8373 but the knights directly served his (supposed) creator
@heydrianluisanilao1757
@heydrianluisanilao1757 Жыл бұрын
@@gigasigma8373 Knights are older than Optimus, and they were made for the sole purpose of serving Quintessa
@Andysomethingisfoolish
@Andysomethingisfoolish 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad you made this video! This definitely could have been explained better. And theres a really cool story underneath apparently! (Like much of the Bayverse)
@gwrifle5106
@gwrifle5106 3 жыл бұрын
Luv ur videos keep it up
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 3 жыл бұрын
If Michael Bay still directing he's gonna owe you big time for explaining the bayverse films then the writers.
@soundwavesuperior5596
@soundwavesuperior5596 3 жыл бұрын
Steven caple is directing
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 3 жыл бұрын
No. We don't want him back
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deinobi it's just a theory
@Deinobi
@Deinobi 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueraccoon1088 a trans theory?
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deinobi yes😹
@sera4893
@sera4893 3 жыл бұрын
If the staff has the power of creation and can only be wielded by a witwiccan then does that mean that Vivian, being the last witwiccan, can basically make transformers?🤔🤔🤔
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
She could in theory
@Im_DJ
@Im_DJ 3 жыл бұрын
Does she know the recipe? XD
@ezucra
@ezucra 2 жыл бұрын
@@Im_DJ a little bit of Allspark, some special juice, and parts, idk, not enough for mass production but enough for 2 or 5
@kirb2electric
@kirb2electric Жыл бұрын
@@Im_DJ allspark energon and some parts
@juliegrine2875
@juliegrine2875 Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus though again even though he can use the staff to some extent but I think quintessa could use it at full power and I think only that full power and some power from primus could create transformers but with quintessa going to unicron quintessa might make a new staff but with dark energon
@estaticethan1752
@estaticethan1752 3 жыл бұрын
This may put up a new spin on Optimus's character from the Bayverse. This could mean that Optimus is older than Megatron, but then again in the first movie, he has his aft kicked by Megatron (Who is larger and more experienced in his guns and brute fighting style). Then again, Megatron could be older than Optimus. Who knows. What is your take in this? And who do you think is older, Optimus or Megatron?
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, that's a hard question, I'd have to say megs
@arynx7neverexisted
@arynx7neverexisted Жыл бұрын
I have a theory about Quintessa created Orion Pax as a Knight. After Orion Pax betrayed Quintessa, Sentinel Prime mentor him until he was ranked a Prime. Leaving his knight life all the way until Age of Extinction.
@OneWithNoFace
@OneWithNoFace 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I didn't like the last knight I still wanted to see this vid
@VeerSingh00016
@VeerSingh00016 3 жыл бұрын
8 hours ago ? 😳
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Early access for prime members
@BRYMUSFREAKINPRIME
@BRYMUSFREAKINPRIME 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeerSingh00016 KZfaq drunk again
@ashwanikumar-gv6ir
@ashwanikumar-gv6ir 3 жыл бұрын
I liked megatron's design and quintessa's voice. Optimus' anger against bumblebee.
@DragonBornHero
@DragonBornHero Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! A tiny addition, The Knights were in Stasis for centuries so they never scanned a modern earth vehicle and never adapted to the more modern style, unlike Optimus who although didn’t initially remember being a Knight, still was awake and active in the modern day
@K.Y.L.E_34
@K.Y.L.E_34 3 жыл бұрын
Petition for trans to become the next director for the transformers franchise VOTE HERE
@busterwolf9528
@busterwolf9528 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@geraldsorenson6073
@geraldsorenson6073 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@vaporRex
@vaporRex Жыл бұрын
yes
@dk_s0r62
@dk_s0r62 Жыл бұрын
Lol only 99
@brokenarmstudios596
@brokenarmstudios596 Жыл бұрын
Yes pls
@BronyLord-wo1ym
@BronyLord-wo1ym 3 жыл бұрын
What if i Survived: The Fallen Edition? How about that Jason?
@SOUNDWAVESTUDIO-up7nu
@SOUNDWAVESTUDIO-up7nu 3 жыл бұрын
I AGREE
@BertoBoi
@BertoBoi 3 жыл бұрын
What If I Survived: Shockwave Edition is also a good idea
@coolerreviews6580
@coolerreviews6580 3 жыл бұрын
How bout:What if Sentinel survived?
@coolerreviews6580
@coolerreviews6580 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a rematch with Nemesis Prime?
@dr_rippa_yt2025
@dr_rippa_yt2025 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm not the only one thinking about that.
@ladilaja6451
@ladilaja6451 2 жыл бұрын
Watching your series has just shown me how many gaps and plot-holes there are in the bayverse. Now I understand why people hate on it so much, although I still love the design and action scenes. Well done sir.
@sunnahwear7540
@sunnahwear7540 3 жыл бұрын
You should be hired to be the writer of these films. It’s just so had that they weren’t able to show us this amazing story
@fisitron6018
@fisitron6018 3 жыл бұрын
3:26 Techno-organic you say.........(Beast Wars theme intensifies)
@kirb2electric
@kirb2electric Жыл бұрын
BEAST WARS
@OogaBooga24723
@OogaBooga24723 3 жыл бұрын
This is real talent in story telling! He can take the smallest detail and use it to make an awesome theory!! Your awesome dude!
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Thx my man
@lunarfilms_bricolage
@lunarfilms_bricolage 3 жыл бұрын
Title: why is optimus a knight? Me: because the writers said so lol
@hesiod_delta9209
@hesiod_delta9209 Жыл бұрын
Optimus being Grimlock's former "handler" is really cool. Same goes for how the Knights used the staff to expand their ranks on Earth. However, I wonder if Merlin had control over the staff, and used it to create warriors of his own. This would not only give backstory to some characters introduced in The Last Knight, it may also explain why it only responded to his descendant, Vivian.
@bluelightstudios6191
@bluelightstudios6191 2 жыл бұрын
Bayverse optimus primes life story: Part 1 Optimus was created by Quintessa along with six other transformers called the cybertronian knights who tamed and rode their own dinobot which quintessa personally made, this was a century before cybertrons great revolution where the transformers kicked their creators off the planet, optimus and his sibling knights did as their master had told them to and killed many of quintessas species thinking they were protecting the universe, however, when they discovered what quintessa had been planning, they rebelled and fought quintessa, they also fought against her followers who joined her side and a massive battle took place where three of the dinobots were killed, all six of the original knights were slaughtered and everyone but quintessa were vanquished, it was just the last remaining dino bots, optimus and quintessa but she decided it wasn't worth her time seeing as she was very weak, she escaped and optimus put down his sword hoping to never need to wield it ever again. Years later, the autobot revolution began, optimus was but a soldier who he and his fellow colleges were being lead by the legendary sentinel prime, who lead the attack on their creators, it was a gruesome battle but they successfully won, the great creators were forced to abandon their most prized factory planet over to the autobots. However, after leaving the creators decided to do one last thing to win back cybertron, they disabled the mechanisms that created self replenishing energon and without the planet being close to a sun for harvesting, it was hopeless, that was until the great primes rose to power and began harvesting stars for energon by recruiting seekers to hunt down suns which's worlds didn't have life on them. It all went well but one of the primes, megatronus didn't like the idea of leaving perfectly harvestable suns alone all because a world had life on it, he then decided to break the rules by creating the first ever generation of decepticons, Megatronus was lead to earth by jetfire who found weird signals coming from the planet specifically that weren't normal, megatronus didn't cared and mainly cared about the sun, it was a perfectly young star and had energon that could last centuries, the decepticons created the spire and were planning to use the matrix of leadership for which megatronus had stolen in order to power it. Meanwhile, Optimus was founded by sentinel prime, Optimus had always looked up to sentinel and when being founded he was taken to see the primes but unfortunately they were all away fighting megatronus's army on earth. Sentinel didn't know where they had vanished off to, seeing how the other primes had to leave so quick and forgot to inform their brother, Sentinel decided to take optimus under his wing and began training him to become a warrior, he told optimus of his stories of how he was created to fight a being called unicron and that unicron was the great creators first rouge transformer. When Sentinel got word of what had happened to his brothers his spark sank into sorrow, he was the very last prime, his brothers sacrificed themselves not only to seal away the matrix of leadership but to banish megatons to a dimension where he could not harm anyone, he was then named the fallen. The battle against the first gen decepticon army and the fallen had diminished all the cybertronian space ships, rendering it impossible to continue harvesting energon from suns and when the great creators came back, life had only became much worse. The autobots were successful yet again in repelling their old masters but at the cost of order, the old autobot nation collapsed and the world fell into a dystopian planet, smaller factions came and went, energon was scarce and they cybertronian people were imprisoned on their planet with no escape, it truly was the darkest hour. That was until sentinel prime and wheeljack discovered a way to bring a star to them, so they can safely harvest it for new energon, enough to restart their civilization again. But unfortunately, an enemy faction known as the betacons got wind of this and thought it would destroy them all, so they planned an assault to permanently halt progression of the supposed super weapon. When sentinel learned of the attack, he immediately called upon as many transformers as he could to help defend the device, even recruiting those who hadn't gotten much experience in battles, it was desperate times, the betacons attacked sentinels outposts but the ones guarding the outposts were able to push back with the leadership of optimus prime who slayed countless batacons, it was in one of these battles he met ratchet and ironhide, ironhide was a soldier he cut down but refused to kill when he yielded, optimus was going to leave him when a medic came along and dragged ironhide away, it was quick but little did they know how much they will go through in the future. The betacons soon pushed through the guarded outposts and made way to sentinel primes machine, though luckily for him, he had found a strong warrior, one who he even saw a bit of optimus inside of him, one who escaped from an energon mining facility and who had fought in gladiatorial battle, his name was megatron, he called himself that after one of the great primes who's strength he always admired. Sentinel prime had megatron defend the front lines with optimus and another warrior, Alita one whilst they finished the beta version of the space bridge, once completed, wheeljack activated the machine and a massive beam shot into space, creating a portal from which a star appeared from. Everyone stopped fighting to admire its beauty and upon realising what the machine truly was, The betacons ceased fire and held down their weapons, optimus informed them of their plan and the betacons bowed in respect, Ironhide, who lead the charge went up to optimus and thanked him for saving everyone and that the betacons were wrong to not have faith in a prime, sentinel came with wheeljack, megatron and alita by his side and shook hands with ironhide, thus beginning the second golden age of cybertron.
@primalking924
@primalking924 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think the whole knight concept would of fit The Primes better. Go more depth into them and even introduce more of them. I just found them confusing trying to figure out who’s who (Yes, some of the knights have been named). It’s a nice concept, but just doesn’t go well.
@hush8290
@hush8290 3 жыл бұрын
The legend has returned.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed I have
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Protect the staff
@sabix2005
@sabix2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundwavedits2012 one day a great evil will come for it
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@sabix2005 Is it really you OPTIMUS?
@sabix2005
@sabix2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundwavedits2012 yes
@Huevito847
@Huevito847 3 жыл бұрын
That pog moment when the funny theory man returns:
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Protect the staff
@rudraveda
@rudraveda 10 ай бұрын
I loved each and every second of this video. It makes a lot of sense from this perspective and makes the Bayverse a cool lore. I just hoped that we would get a final work of Bay for conclusion.
@razorshark6790
@razorshark6790 3 жыл бұрын
Ayy our boy trans with a new Vid😁
@dr_rippa_yt2025
@dr_rippa_yt2025 3 жыл бұрын
YESSIR
@brandflakese7703
@brandflakese7703 3 жыл бұрын
I make flash using the speed force look slow with how fast I clicked on this vid Please make a vid on if Prime didn't die in the forest battle
@HelenaSan425
@HelenaSan425 3 жыл бұрын
"trans theories uploads video" me: it's going to be fun
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Protect the staff
@jciconic2054
@jciconic2054 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you are me from the paßt lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁😁😁😁😆😆😆😆
@Mike-mf3ed
@Mike-mf3ed 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! I am so smart. I thought Optimus was the last knight! It has been a while since I last watched these movies…
@presidentecorleone4311
@presidentecorleone4311 3 жыл бұрын
I've Been Waiting, Amazing Job Jason!!✨
@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353
@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 3 жыл бұрын
You are making me love the Bayverse more and more. Thank you.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@absolutemadlad5662
@absolutemadlad5662 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute If quintessa was going to make techno organic transformers, and according to leaks, rise of the beast's will have connections to the last knight, what if rise of the beast's will be the transformers equivalent to days of future past, with the bayverse actually being a bad timeline, and the beast wars cast went back in time to change the future and set it on the right path
@danielkearns7665
@danielkearns7665 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the things I have hoped to clear up while doing my own TLK rewrite (not sure why I started with TLK and not AOE lol)
@telles0824
@telles0824 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go!!!! barely watching now but Ik it’s gonna be a good one thanks Trans for another video and can’t wait till the next one. 👀
@MinisterofTinyHeads
@MinisterofTinyHeads 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Quintessa kind of look like a live action Botanica from beast machines? Also the techno-organic cybertron is also similar to how it looked in the end of beast Machines.
@859.
@859. 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 are we not gonna talk about how smooth that transition was-
@telles0824
@telles0824 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the video I swear Trans your blowing my mind!!! Ima be looking at some of those scenes very different because of your theories Trans lol.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@arcs9207
@arcs9207 2 жыл бұрын
What the bayverse really needs is a movie that ties up all the loose ends as well as the plot holes of the five movies. If they were able to pull that off, I think there is still a chance to revive the franchise.
@lucaslycan6759
@lucaslycan6759 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think the reason Grimlock was so ok with Prime riding him is because The Dinobot seems to have a power system of "The strongest leads" and Prime beat Grimlock in battle so it was natural for Grimlock to submit. They are like dogs, we can see this more in TLK with how Grimlock acts with Kade. Also, I don't think Optimus had a relationship with Grimlock before as when goes to free them he says "So the legends are true" meaning one The Dinobots are a myth to them, and two Optimus is meeting them for the first time.
@Madarauchiha-fp5fd
@Madarauchiha-fp5fd 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he lost some memories when he was killed
@heydrianluisanilao1757
@heydrianluisanilao1757 Жыл бұрын
The Dinobots are just not so bright compared to other Cybertronians. I think they're made for brawn purposes only, as they're not that skillful
@x1voidfn595
@x1voidfn595 3 жыл бұрын
I been waiting for this video thank you 🙏,And keep it up Jason
@rightfuls3291
@rightfuls3291 3 жыл бұрын
lets goooooooooooooo thxs so much Trans! and also i love this theory most likely my second favorite video from this channel keep up the vids!!
@kadiansimon6662
@kadiansimon6662 3 жыл бұрын
when we needed him most he has returned
@one-rq2et
@one-rq2et 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@silverstormusprime7807
@silverstormusprime7807 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder why the Knights were kicking the scrap outta Prime
@bailiholcomb92
@bailiholcomb92 2 жыл бұрын
What if berzerker survives the events of Michael bay the last knight
@akiharashuguro2141
@akiharashuguro2141 6 ай бұрын
Your video keep getting better and better
@DuzdyAnimates
@DuzdyAnimates Ай бұрын
My favorite line😂: “Now if you’re wondering how the Dinobots are knights, first of all, they all look like knights.”
@minecgameyt4631
@minecgameyt4631 3 жыл бұрын
Bumblebee: HEY WHY AM I NOT A KNIGHT?! (Jealousy strikes lmao) And that's why Bumblebee fought Optimus LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO (jk)
@samuelcoleman3003
@samuelcoleman3003 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid brodie
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Thx Sam 👍
@MrFedoraFilm
@MrFedoraFilm 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video on the Transformers Knights explanation on the Dinobots, Quintessa's involvement, Optimus Prime's knight role, and the Guardian Knights of Iacon. -It's a long way from here, but I wonder how Studio Series will handle the Dragonstorm combiner.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that
@JJPrimeReviews2020
@JJPrimeReviews2020 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this explains the Autobot Knights of Cybertron very well. Thanks for the video, Trans Theories! Keep up the great work!
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@Shirouathena
@Shirouathena 3 жыл бұрын
When we needed him he returned
@deannalopez6390
@deannalopez6390 3 жыл бұрын
Is no one going to excuse the fact that he sounds like he’s experienced the layover of getting drunk the previous night
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
Who
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus How did the Dinobots kill some Creator's?
@mixaila9148
@mixaila9148 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was intentional to lengthen the video, great catch 😂
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
The purpose was to speak more clearly since others had a hard time hearing me
@arcrisgonzaga7324
@arcrisgonzaga7324 10 ай бұрын
2:05 that transition was fire! 🔥
@estaticethan1752
@estaticethan1752 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new vid, Trans!
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Np
@Mr.Chavez2008
@Mr.Chavez2008 2 ай бұрын
I miss the bayvers😢
@srikanthramprasad7030
@srikanthramprasad7030 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you forgot to mention Megatron was also redesigned to look like a Dark verison of Optimus's knight body with his proportions being based on G1 Megatron if more medieval looking
@hampless
@hampless 3 жыл бұрын
As always amazing job 👍
@Ryno-en4qp
@Ryno-en4qp 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you do it but these always turn out great and make the movies more understandable!
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Thx my man
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Protect the staff
@robertlopez5936
@robertlopez5936 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys want to see what if Sentinel Prime survived?
@ZackWP1309
@ZackWP1309 3 жыл бұрын
My mind has just been blown😱
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@mrannoyingkettle7777
@mrannoyingkettle7777 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it is not to messy.
@ZackWP1309
@ZackWP1309 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrannoyingkettle7777 lol
@Soundwavedits2012
@Soundwavedits2012 3 жыл бұрын
Protect the staff
@secla_SC
@secla_SC 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! You actually managed to make sense of a broken timeline and not only that but you make it truly interesting and intriguing. A shame we won’t get a conclusion to the Bay-verse.
@l0rdapophis
@l0rdapophis 3 жыл бұрын
HI TRANS!!! Good to see ya again!!
@zacharyrenn-kagamine5910
@zacharyrenn-kagamine5910 Жыл бұрын
The Bayverse can’t end with 5 movies. We don’t know what happened to Quintessa and Megatron, and even Unicron. Michael Bay can’t end 5 movies he can’t do that.
@kitkat_sans9090
@kitkat_sans9090 20 күн бұрын
To be fair He had no choice since The last knight did "badly" in the box office I heard somewhere that he was fired from being a director, instantly ending the whole bayverse universe, but I still can't believe they fired him just after The last Knight's ending being a cliffhanger With Unicron waking up, and quintessa still alive, it such a big twist and they decided to just end it there
@zacharyrenn-kagamine5910
@zacharyrenn-kagamine5910 20 күн бұрын
@@kitkat_sans9090 well at least I can Transformers 6 from Michael Bay as a fan film soon.
@Bugles_McGee
@Bugles_McGee Жыл бұрын
Request: why did the transformers characters gain humanoid appearances. Like if you agree
@khangawesome9271
@khangawesome9271 3 жыл бұрын
i have been waiting for this for ages
@tatotube6351
@tatotube6351 3 жыл бұрын
I’m late, but just finished it great video man keep up the good work 👍
@xx_grimlock_xx3364
@xx_grimlock_xx3364 3 жыл бұрын
I ♥️ TT
@Guest-qn8mv
@Guest-qn8mv 3 жыл бұрын
"From today, We take the battle to them" -Optimus prime Also can someone explain me this when Optimus on dark of the moon his bottom chase kinda become big it's not applied from transformer 2007- Revenge of the fallen.
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Sure
@_planq2277
@_planq2277 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, keep it up
@ayush21399
@ayush21399 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, keep em coming
@Optimusprimeisachad
@Optimusprimeisachad 3 жыл бұрын
Do what if I survived Sentinel prime
@ayeletkuellar72
@ayeletkuellar72 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a great video
@SOUNDWAVESTUDIO-up7nu
@SOUNDWAVESTUDIO-up7nu 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayeletkuellar72 True
@Darth_JappleZ11
@Darth_JappleZ11 3 жыл бұрын
MASTERPIECE of a video! Keep it up!
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Thx man
@tallerlight9993
@tallerlight9993 3 жыл бұрын
you keep making these movies better and better and makes me sadder and sadder we wont see how it plays out.
@silverstormusprime7807
@silverstormusprime7807 3 жыл бұрын
Once again at it again with a great video
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Thx
@wolvesin7
@wolvesin7 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this
@shaunbang
@shaunbang 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time! The knights always confused me with how they are mentioned in AOE then Last Knight. Also the whole last knight plot hole issue of how they keep saying there are 12 knights to form Dragonstorm but we see multiple knights get killed throughout the film
@believer4002
@believer4002 3 жыл бұрын
The knights that was killed on the knight ship (zombie knights) was not part of Dragonstorm.
@rajeshvrajan9058
@rajeshvrajan9058 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!!
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Thx
@isaacpatel6995
@isaacpatel6995 3 жыл бұрын
I remembered something when you are talking about Optimus primes sword having the talisman logo on it I remembered day trader saying that there were 7 talismans maybe optimise primes sword is one of those talismans
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
He said that their were 7 aings of the apocalypse
@Yusbeh
@Yusbeh 3 жыл бұрын
every video I watch I feel more and more interested and am filled with more information behind the lore of the films
@Superb23
@Superb23 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear your voice, man. ❤👍
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime 🤟
@ultradubhgaming1375
@ultradubhgaming1375 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos you make A lot of very good facts and makes everything in the transformers universe much more clear like this one it’s very clear now
@Theorymus
@Theorymus 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@UchihaMirage
@UchihaMirage 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this
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