Its because people are jealous of bts success thats why they want hybe to be down so bad. #ProtectBTS

​@@talkingtofu excuse me, not everything revolves around bts, got it? The drama is between Min Hee jin and hybe because she things ill it is copying newjeans and she blamed several other groups including aespa for this too.. Where did bts come from? Bts might be targeted somehow but the main issue if of other groups so they should be protected. This drama is not gonna ruin anything of bts but can destroy future of several other groups.

​@@talkingtofugrow up looser Don't drag bts on everything That's embarrassing

@@talkingtofu girl shut up. BTS aren't even that relevant, other groups like lesserafim are getting most of the hate not them..

@@Strayberry123 hybe is bts. without bts money, your little groups wont survive.

For sure 😁

Deadass a documentary

Wow so many likes thanks

Lol🤣🤣🤣

Or a documentary, I would watch either of those ngl

It's not official.

real

Worst part, illit is even not that good.

Because he named them after Ilchi Lee his lord lol 😅

thats not true

Yeah I remember this, weird how those news suddenly disappeared

see, i hate how y’all come for illit and then end the message by saying something about their vocals. YES, their vocals aren’t as good as they should be, should they improve? yes. But what’s the need for you to drag illit down for no reason? no your not blaming the people who copied it and made illit dance to it, no instead ur dragging the girls down for no reason. Y’all the type of people who make idols kill themselves and then cry after

@@ikiigaiiAgreed, it’s just hypocritical at this point.

She was paid by Min he Jin to do that. Don't believe in baseless rumours

Y'all be saying the same thing... "ThEir VoCALs aRE NoT gOOd" "thEY shOULd PrAcTice TheIR VoCaLs" like... We know their vocals aren't good but this is getting out of hand.

If your current producer is fantastic why did he plagiarize Shakatak's Easier said than done to make bubblegum? Aww did he think he won't get caught cuz it's a 40 year old song? Too bad for yall, we already found out

​@@madkmadk6809lol you again? It's sampled not plagiarized 😂 There were other songs sampled from ESTD as well aside from Bubblegum lol

@@fcoderiiz it's not sampling because for you to sample something that music has to be registered that way thats it's allowed to be sampled. In 40years of this songs existence it was never sampled before because it's not free to use like that. Even the original artist said they had no idea about this but that it sounds VERY similar. That should raise alarmbells but yall are out here cleaning up after NJ's 🍑

@@madkmadk6809 ok. LOLOLOLOLOL 😂

HYBE's plan is disband Newjeans, its replacement is ILLIT, and Min Hee Jin wants to remove her from ADOR and put her on a blacklist.

He’s taking orders from HYBE, wherever NJ is doing, so that too!

@@user-ji3io9hn8oOop Just like Hybe replaced Gfriend with Le Sserafim

free newjeans and fromis_9!!

@@user-ji3io9hn8okinda see this happening

160 Million Dollars for two songs which are not original at all. Funny right?

@@tnjh5512 If (BIG BIG BIG IF) part of that was skewered or embezzled???? ... thats kinda ingenious!

That hard earned BTS money down the toilet on shabby clones 🤮

@@KingKikikoi The investment for ILLIT was 160 Million Dollars. Bighit last year had a Profit of 98 Million Dollars. So ILLIT did Cost more then Bighit made in a whole ass year

@@tnjh5512 no way man , how can two songs or even an entire group investment cost that much. Are you sure that's in dollars and not wons

Bang Hippo done messed up now 😂

bang sh*t is getting greedier and greedier. He shouldn't have his owm girl group especially if they can't sing and plagiarize their own small labeled group.

ao childish for ignoring new jeans. Your an adult man lol. poor girls. what a jealous man.

and we here for it 😂

Media play for getting attention their vocals are ass the media play is the only way to get relevant

Hybe literally owns the rights to both new jeans and illit lmao😂 . People acting like some other company stealing from Ador 😂

Doesnt matter. Theyre under different labels, no? Illit is illit and Newjeans is Newjeans. I think it its outrageous tht they want to replace nj when they've just barely begun. ​@georgeallen4007

​@@georgeallen4007just think about it. They're planning to put the girls on a 1.5 yr hiatus for what? To further promote illit without the competition of their popular seniors getting in the way. Im not trying to hate on illit, but its very clear to me what hybe is orchestrating

@@Zee_00001 ador is owned by hybe . Hybe owns the rights to new jeans therefore anything that new jeans puts out is owned by hybe . Hybe can do whatever it wants .

@@georgeallen4007nahhh that’s a bad mindset

Yea it is a hiatus hybe hates NJS for no reason

That's a prelude for disbandment. Since NJ is actually a new group, they debuted in July 2022.

@@Hi-yf3qqHybe hates Newjeans, Fromis_9, and Gfriend

It's just hearsay at this point.

They doing the same thing with gfriend and disband them after its actually scary for nj

LOUDER!!

Yes, awesome

If you are disrespecting HYBE you are also disrespecting BTS so think twice before saying anything

@@frvrrr7 disrespecting Hybe is not disrespectting BTS don’t be dumb. Please stop being embarrassing omg

I don't know how you think all the respective companies under hybe will not get affected after hybe tumbles and just continue as usual. But hey things will get messy cause where do you think Source, Pledis, Bighit or Ador are getting all that investment from?

NJ has no concept so whats ur point

@@lucasbinder6151Y2K and teen crush

it's so hard to comprehend that Hype which has the most budget for a group would debut a new gg with the laziest concept within their company. they have the most money combined of the big 3, but still they chose inspiration concept of nj. now it backfired !!!

​@@rheawilday9769 his ego is insane!!! He doesn't even care about profit at this point, he just wants to win against MHJ

NJ's song straight from HYBE's music factory😂 and they say NJ is talented.

Their mindset is hybe is bts, I can’t with them

Army’s stood on their side when they supported zionism. Are we surprised?

He might be the head but his not the one whose incharge of nj its MHj if he was involved in every thing he will most likely be there. Like bts & txt since hes involved in thier music🤦 stans will really ate up all MHJ bullshit but when ask to answer the very root of this problem on why shes creating literal corporate espionage ya'll became stupid🤦

​@@noirnoironey Bro TXT and BTS is in same Label while NJ and illit have different labels and CEO under them...they have different choreographers and stylists....and all the 💄 and dress has to be based on their album concepts...so why would same company create same concepts? Unless one is trying for a downfall of others.... Just see how Boy group's of Hybe have different concepts despite being in same label or different label.

​​@@kookie687 No ...the concepts are different... Y2k and dreamcore... Yes.. The coreos are really similar and that's messed up.... BUT they were probably trying to do whatever in their power to make the group's debut a success and hybe being as money hungry as they are overshadowing a group for another sounds stupid... Why would they do that when nj are the 3rd most money making group under them?

MHJ has no proprietary hold over new jeans so I don't understand why Hybe is tanking one of their own assets it's, absurd. If I was on Hybes board, I would be questioning the man in charge.

@@Deamon_pox101 look at the camera angle and photos concept..... Evrything is screaming New jeans when you see.....

fr! but it’s not the girls fault it’s the people behind the scenes

it’s bang pd setting them up creating them to only make newjeans and ador uncomfortable

​@@bjorkhorsemanall the big 4 founders are trash

@@din.i Srsly respected Bang PD, but ig he is gonna go in the trash can lower than the big 3s ig near Cube or maybe Ahn Joon-young etc

Are you kidding? Before military, Taehyung had been *bombarded* with dating rumors and Jungkook had a new fling everytime he got photographed in low quality areas with terrible lighting. Being paid off would mean no reports or photographs of any kind. The thing (I assume) with dispatch is they like to find dirty lots of dirt of interest and BTS at that time were boring with nothing "scandalous" to report out.

If it is that easy to "pay Dispatch" why isn't everyone doing it? Only Hybe can afford it? (Could be true, I have no clue) Also: if it's not about idols' private life but about business stuff - wouldn't that be considered corruption to pay journalists to not do their job?

Yeah it's been rumored for years that Dispatch is being paid by Hybe.

Maybe because dispatch cant find dirt agaisnt bts in the past just maybe...unlike other idols...because bts is busy working & making songs. and if youre not aware there has been reports & gossip made about them its not just worth the buzz🤷‍♀️

@@whiteRiceSupremacist Romoured being the narrative here nowadays i don't trust anything until i see evidence

right? That's what I've been saying and those mindless Hybe Stan still trying to cover up for BSH.

@@eslnter good god you’re so patient to even speak with the hybe stans , they’re absolute nightmares 😅

@@eslnter I don't understand why anyone would stan a greedy and arrogant man like Bang Si Hyuk..

​@@yasminchan7425because he created bts that's why otherwise people don't stan him i think

​@@Aelist12dude they're worshipping him and the boys not stanning. I was called a hater, pressed AND a delulu for just criticising the COMPANY not bts. I don't even care about bts so i wouldn't throw hate but their company is using underhanded means and are hiding behind bts and army 🤷🏼‍♀️

Gurl winwin signs these contracts for them to be on schedule

@Everythingz127 but still, fans can't just get mad at him. It's his own decision . He can't always do what they want, and he doesn't have to.

S tem kar si objavil se bo uničil K-POP v Koreji.

Look how she keeps bringing up plagiarism accusations against illit on every illit video but would NOT mention that NewJeans plagiarized UK band Shakatak's 'Easier said that done' song for bubblegum. Instead she is talking about that lucky girl syndrome accusation for a freaking dance move, mentioning as if this is a new accusation when in reality it's been more than a week since that came up. But for actual MUSICAL plagiarism done By NJ, she's silent. This channel is definitely on MHJ side. I'm sure MHJ contacted her. This vid was just confirmation for me lol

​@@madkmadk6809I don't think you even know the whole story or understand why MHJ is upset. MHJ spend so much time and money on NJ with BSH and they were promised by him to debut. BSH however thought they would flop and therefore delayed their debut. instead they debuted Lesserafim and labeled them as HYBEs Global gg. MHJ was promised during this time that after they had gotten Lsfm debuted they would focus on nwjns but they didn't which caused the Members and their families to worry, mind you it was delayed for a whole year and a half. So this caused MHJ to take it into her own hands and BSH was jealous that they blew up without his input and help so he made ILLIT to make a new nwjns that he had creative control over. Wouldn't you be mad if someone, who told you your ideas were bad, stole your idea? Plus if you look at the budget difference Nwjns had only 16billion krw spent on them but ILLIT had 500billion krw. Can you now see the blatant plagiarism and disregard of nwjns and MHJ hard work? (Sorry for the long explanation but I just wanted you to understand the situation)

@@seventeenisfunnyaf MHJ spent her time sure. But she wasn't the one who spent 'so much money' on NJ. It was given from the company. She even admitted herself in her presscon that starting her own company was the right thing to do but she didn't start her own company and instead joined hybe to debut a gg because "if you start on your own money, you become poor". She didn't have the business mindset from the get go. You gotta learn to take risks in business. Even she knew it was a risk. She keeps saying it's not about money but her own words prove that it's definitely mostly about money cuz she didn't wanna take the risk and probably become poor. That's very contradictory. Bang pd wasn't like her, he started his own company and even went bankrupt but did with his own company instead of joining as a sublabel of money backed kakao or SM. He got so many offers to sell BTS(even to SM) but he didn't because he was a risk taker and knew his business well. If you work for a company anything you build as an employee, any creative output becomes the company's intellectual property or IP. You can't get emotional over your works success and get upset and scream plagiarism or stealing if someone else from the same company does something remotely similar with that formula because that idea belongs to the company now as the company's IP. It's her fault for not starting her own independent company and trademarking copyrights to every single hairstyle, hair color, dress, dance move since she wanted to be petty and wanted everything to be hers only so bad. Do you know how ridiculous it sounds? At the time NJ debuted LSF didn't have a huge budget like illit either, do you know why? Because source music was at the risk of bankruptcy and they had to debut some group with more assurance to popularity first before taking a huge risk like NJ in order to earn some money. And debuting someone already popular was the safe and right business move for that. Now the company has way more money than that year that's why illit got this much budget. I don't get why debuting first is so important to NJ. They didn't have even nearly as hard as other idols with their waiting peruod. There are idols who get their debuts pushed back to 7-8 years(jihyo, bang chan) and even 11years(aisha) but you don't see them throwing a fit over it and they are all successful now. Compared to that NewJeans waiting period was nothing. Yet they are still complaining and still stuck over the past. It seems they just can't accept the fact that they are not the 1st in everything and they are not getting every single thing in life. Getting upset over not being greeted/bowed back by a decades older senior. This should frankly be a life lesson to them as to why you can't have everything your way as a rookie and especially as an employee. Might not be rainbows and unicorns but that's how the idol business works. Jihyo got her debut pushed back 3 times. Bang chan got his debut pushed back 2 times. Yet they are still humble to JYP. Cuz they know that promises can fall through, it wasn't written as part of their trainee contracts that 'you get to debut 1st,you get to debut at this exact date and the company ceo will always bow to you cuz you're just that important' and that's why they don't make a fuss. It wasn't written in NJ trainee contract too but they are acting like it was. And talking about jealousy, if bang pd is jealous, then MHJ is more jealous than anyone on the industry right now. She's jealous that Illit became successful earlier than NJ did. Otherwise she wouldn't have screamed plagiarism. She'd be silent if illit flopped. That concept she keeps claiming that NJ and MHJ owns, after NJ a few nugu groups like triples did it too but she didn't raise a issue because she had nothing to be jealous of as they weren't successful. Not to mention she herself keeps copying other kpop and jpop acts(and now even uk acts) but she has a problem with illit doing it

@@madkmadk6809 you've made some very valid points that I agree with. The point about the company giving money if you looked at the figures, Not confirmed I just stumbled upon it so don't rely on me for this, in terms of the budget for Nwjns they were given 16billion won but ILLIT were given 500billion which shows where Hybe were focused on placing their investments. She spent so much time on the girls so she, as a trainer, grew to care for them and when they were promised to debut she obviously wanted to try her best to make it happen bc she had faith in them which BSH did not have. He , as someone who has been through a similar situation as her, should have been understanding enough to either give her the motivation and aid her rather than do what everyone else was doing to BTS when they were in the same situation and deemed as flops. Everything else I completely agree with though

I’m waiting for Newjeans to join them with their comeback, just girl groups who’s idols can sing live 💫 Aespa 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼Ive 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼Baemon🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 NWJNS

Kpop sound?🤦 kpop stans really are dumb

@@alphabetboy8569 yes!!!

@@alphabetboy8569 same, newjeans will come back stronger than ever

they spread rumors in aespa and ive then wants them to be allies😂

Yeah people think these fans are actually mad at the girls but using logic, you can tell most fans are mad at these companies rather than the idols themselves. I feel bad for these girls but they also need to face the reality that they’re on a tightrope themselves bc of choices they made.

They make tiktok music. Sorry

If you nj fan please mind your own idol business 😂 leave lsfm to us.. their fandom! We.. who always stand by them!

​@@nbd897i'm not even a fearnot and sometimes i have a beef with them but these bunnies are getting annoying

Leave ILLIT alone!

Look at you acting exactly like mhj, dragging lsf into unnecessary drama. Do you want us to clap for you or something?

You need to reevaluate and stop being stupid why would ls go on a hiatus if they don't need to? Just because you like another group stop trying to push one out the way and just focus on what YOU like

I really hope everything goes well for BTS when they come back. It's sad that when they come back the company that they built up is gonna be like this. As an ARMY it really makes me sad.

they don’t have to if they are always on top of the charts… if y’all don’t stop listening they won’t start making them sing live because you’re still filling their pockets. use your brain.

He’s been the villain though, people just never paid attention :/

New Jeans s plagiatom uspeva.

@user-li5sv7bg7y if you believe that then it’s sadder that ILLIT thrives on New Jeans

Then explain to me why bubblegum by NJ comes out right after Illit's debut and it dounds exactly lie an ILLit song? ANd Illit hasnt copied a single NJ thing people are so cringe and wierd for caring so much, until Illit releases ETA as there own song or some shit there is 0 need for all this uproar regarding plagerism lmao like dramatic much? people wanna jsut be mad and hate on Illit girls for no reason

@@lucasbinder6151 Schedules are decided quarters in advance. Hybe has all schedules, while Ador has access to their own and no exact information from other labels. It falls on Hybe to avoid conflicts and benefit their labels the most. It's basic business.

@lucasbinder6151 you’re saying a NJ song that sounds like Illit who has been copying NJ? Lol at the irony. 🤣

Go and look up if the samsung ceo bows back to his subordinates lol. And see if they make such a fuss about it

@@madkmadk6809 What does that change?

It got on my nerves the day it accquired Pledis Entertainment. Worse news ever as a Carat.

17 would have disbanded, if it wasn't for hybe. Yes 17, leave hybe ! Let's see how long they'll last 😃 same with nj leaves hybe 👋

@@LuraMarry-be7kt Nah Seventeen is just good on their own and Pledis is striving because of them. It's Hybe that needs Seventeen, that's why they accuired Pledis. Get your facts right. You people sure have zero knowledge and don't do any fact findings before talking.

You talk sense and this is the kind of critics that L.S and their team should take serious

thought i was the only one....lately i have been loosing interest

i don’t understand why you would trust any company anyways? Everyone’s money hungry, especially the ones on top of the social chain.

Same i feel like this industry is really toxic i’m reallyy losing my interest

Same bro...

Why would you ever trust that arrogant and money hungry man in the first place?..

In kaj dela potem Min Heejin podobno kot HYBE, če ne še huje.

Don't forget that in most of their groups, the talented members were trainees from other companies, meaning they can't even train their own talent.

@@user-ji3io9hn8oLmao they did have talented trainees like Jiwoo, Channel, and Jungeun but Hybe dropped them under the bus for Wonhee, Moka, and Iroha

But Hybe is just services for companies under them, ill’it is under Be-lift lab…Be-lift lab is responsible for managing them correctly….each companies have their team that are supposed to work for their group, music, concept, styles choreography etc it’s all under the companies duties…so don’t blame Hybe if it is not in their duties to do so…people these days are easy to criticize

@@msbebelle07 Hybe is the majority shareholder of all those subsidiaries and Bang PD was involved in ILLIT's album, so of course Hybe is responsible for this entire circus.

It’s Not Illit that is copying it’s their team and HYBE Illit are innocent in this HYBE just got trainees debuted them to early and isn’t even protecting them it’s basically like he wanted drama between New jeans and Illit

Not illit its hybe and their production

It never ends

Idk why they are bringing up old stuff, it’s literally from antifragile era 🤦‍♀️

@@IloveGardensandteaparties I feel sorry for them now

Im not a fearnot but this is really went too far ... like the constructive criticism in a respectful way was okey but now so many Haters are just using it as a pretext to throw hate toward lee sserafim girls

It happens when you cannot sing

FR

😂😂😂

Exactly! win win has never really been givin an opportunity to shine as an idol😒 so if he does leave, these so called “fans” need to understand his talent is being wasted. And if he fully does acting he should be able to. Mans was snatched from nct127 to be put in wavyv to only get one line🤣 sometimes I forget win win is even still apart of the franchise. ( no shade )

Does anyone know how his acting has been received? I haven't found any news about that.

The biggest group under Hybe label is bangtan.

@@user1234-ol7mz they probably meant that bc bts is in the army rn

@@Kpop_stay_hehe the first quarterly profit of hybe was released yesterday and bighit is the largest contributor, the svt etc even lessarafirm earns much more than new jeans...

@@user1234-ol7mz oh ok sorry i didnt really know, thank you❤️

He barely has lines cause he isn’t a good singer nor seems to try to improve his skills. Guess he’s just much more into acting instead being a performer

​@@lu5423this. He didn't improve at all since 2016, unfortunately. And SM focuses on vocals and not dancing. Even Sehun and Taemin improved a lot, so why not WinWin?

The thing is SM kind of sidelines underatted idols. Check their units, they normally put the idols who are most popular. So maybe he got sick of it. I just hope he is okay, and he should do what he wants most I think

I think people seem to forget the mistreatment Winwin has faced since he joined NCT. From being a permanent part of NCT127 to being pulled out without any announcement or explanation. "Not being a good singer" is ridiculous. No one is asking for a ton of lines, a few lines would be good enough but he doesnt get anything. Even a little screen time would suffice. Also Winwin is definitely on the same level as Sehun so don't even go there. "SM focuses on vocals" is again nonsense because SM was the one who casted Winwin in China, where he had a stable career, brought him and debuted him in Korea. They basically unhinged his life just to treat him like shit. Good for him that he's focusing his efforts on acting. It's not like WayV themselves get treated well either. They're the worst treated unit in NCT.

Karma for what?

I feel bad for NewJeans and their choreographers the most.

They were doomed either way so i think they decided to go all in

Yeah, but like the video said - public sentiment is everything. I think that if he stops NJs activity just to be petty, then everyone is going to know and he’s going to lose favor with the public. That would hurt the image of every group under the HYBE umbrella, but especially all their girl groups. HYBE really cannot catch a break with its girl groups, but it doesn’t help that their CEO doesn’t seem to know how to handle public drama.

​@@user-oo1jw4hp4x Exactly

@@starsnoireart his pettiness will be his downfall this drama could have ended if he took a step back but noooo his ego is hurt and now he wants to put newjeans on hiatus

@@user-oo1jw4hp4x exactly. I find it interesting that HYBE is trying to paint MHJ as the “emotional one” in this dispute, but BSH level of pettiness is just as emotionally charged. Tbh I think HYBE has sucked at PR ever since the Garam situation and it hasn’t gotten any better.

yeah that's obviously not how it works. are you sure you know much about the judiciary system in south korea? because you type like you're 11 years old. why are you wasting your time writing comments on youtube when you clearly have no idea what is going on.... it doesnst make any sense. just do something more productive with your time. go study for your algebra quiz

Sheez. Do you have to be nasty? Just correct them not need for all this rude algebra nonsense

I think Minji got a boyfriend and broke the company dating rules, that's why bang pd was a bit harsh on her group and showing strictness by not greeting

True, these cmmts going after the artists just show how trashy the cmmtrs actually are.

Add that to the way they hate on all these young girls is makes them even more gross.

did u read the statements dispatch wrote? i dont think theyve betrayed hybe.

Za to kar si napisal si lahko kazensko odgovoren.

Cancel you cancel kookielit

That is a small act to try to appear neutral but let's not forget that HYBE used Dispatch to start this whole scandal.

Dispatch was taking Hybe side but if they don't shade Hybe at all it will be bluntly taking side so they were just trying not to be obvious

"let LE SSERAFIM alone" ???

@@justacutie5201 aa I mean "leave". Sorry I just realize that I wrote "let"

No wonder must be a kid right??

@@badkarma5245 No

​@@badkarma5245exactly 💯

Glad youre happy atleast 😂

You think this is new? They did this to GD too, kookielit didn't even bother to update about it