For Hongbin’s case he was actually talking about the REMIX versions of those songs that was done by other people not the idols themselves. He was saying the REMIX was bad. Those who watch he twitch stream that day would know. He already apologised countless times and even turned on his stream to apologise for an hour (he cried too) but those ignorant people just ignored those facts and bluntly accused him. He did nothing wrong at all and shouldn’t have to leave the group.

You've completely mischaracterised Hongbin's story. Not surprising, given you cited an unreliable source. His comments about the SHINee song were about a remix, and the vampires vs wolves comment referenced both Twilight and the friendly rivalry between EXO and VIXX. Please check the actual sources before you do this sort of video.

No but why are people defending hwayoung and hyuna in the comments💀

I never in a million years thought Vixx would become how they have. Their company handled the Hongbin situation horribly!

Irene never gave her side of the story SM just made her apologize like they do with any scandal involving their idols regardless whether it's right or wrong. Everyone just canceled her without knowing if it is the actual truth or not nor the circumstances

Irene speaking up against that stylist was def right. it's just some people cant understand

To this day I find nothing wrong with what Hongbin said, and that's why I am so mad and disappointed at jellysh*t for leaving him alone and at those who call themselves fans of VIXX but aren't in fact. When you don't like the remix, does it mean that you also don't like the original song? Obviously not! Also, what is wrong in saying that in his opinion song deserves a better choreography? I don't get it? With EXO, it was well known that they know each other very well and probably in private joked more harshly as friends but apparently some people cannot take even the slightest joke, delicacy of some...

Don’t know why fans are offended when a member of a group calls them out on stupid shit they do

Sorry but Vixx's Hongbin did nothing. He simply complained about the remix the fans did which ruined the song.

Irene did what she had to do, red velvet were constantly getting bad and extremely revealing clothes (especially Joy) that they clearly were uncomfortable wearing. Irene being the good leader she is spoke up to the stylist and after that incident red velvet has been getting better and better outfits And at least she cares enough about her members to speak up instead of just letting her members constantly get outfits they clearly are uncomfortable with

The vixx one was so unnecessary tbh why are ppl so sensitive

The hongbin situation always makes me so sad ): it was taken out of proportion, his words and the whole situation. He doesn’t deserve the hate at all especially to the extent that he had to leave vixx. He’s one of the most genuine and sweetest human being

HyunA literally went from dawn to down 😑

I've seen the way SM stylists put their idols in uncomfortable clothes... especially Irene, Mothers always right, she ate that

Why is hongbin heree 🥺 that man did not deserve all the hate 😢

Unfortunately, kpop idols are not allowed to be human and make mistakes, the slightest 'scandal' however minor, can tarnish their careers and good reputation and the image that they upheld with Korean fans being the most unforgiving towards them

The number 1 abandoning your cat is worst.

Coming from a Starlight of 2015 I personally think that Hongbin didn't deserve to be kicked out of the group A short hiatus and genuine apology to idols mentioned and the fans would've been enough His "scandal" wasn't bad at all, just said without thinking and the consequences Sometimes I wish people would react the same to current idols actions, like Chaeyoungs especially. She actually fucked up and is not even held accountsble by many [I know this was offtopic, I just got reminded of it]

Hongbin deserved so much better. He shouldn't be in this video. His case was blown so out of proportion 😢 what's wrong with not liking a remix? People say they like the original all the time! And aside from the poking fun with the twilight-referenced joke, VIXX and EXO are friends come on. And he apologized so much. Fans asking for an apology but when they get it, they just keep hating anyway 😢 what was the point of badgering for an apology if you weren't gonna listen anyway? 😢

Have you seen the clothes RV were wearing prior the fight? Please.

Let's not do that to hongbin........

People do have bad breath. That's valid. Maybe a breath mint policy at these events?

Hyuna. Her actions and the fact that she clearly doesn’t care is disgusting. Especially because she’s built her career on female empowerment and has spoken on the sexualisation of young women/girls.

Regarding Irene, no one even knows what she said. It's not for the public to judge. It's a private matter. We don't need to know everything.

2:09 nah he was so real for that, an idols job is to dance and sing, aegyo and that shit is expected but not compulsory, i actually rate hwayoung for what he said

Hyuna was my ult but I've almost forgotten about her existence atp. It *seems* like her fandom really stood on the business that she didn't.

What happened to Irene was unfair. SM just wanted Bae to apologize. Her stylist's choice of clothing got her mic pack slipping from her gown causing her to make mistakes despite her telling before. Other backup dancers supported her yet none spoke about it. Stylist knew about the cancel culture and used it to her advantage in my opinion.

Hongbin is saying abt the REMIX yall be comparing his issue with others ?? like be fr😂

Hongbin is just a pure misunderstanding by so called "fans" . He just comment on the remix edit online that was done by some fans. Then, that "fans" just bluntly accused him for not liking the original song version.. lol

Irene should not be hated….cuz we actually dont really know everything…..remember she is the leader and carries a lot of responsibilities and why nobody cancelled beyonce when we know she is very rude to her staff when they do a mistake, why we dont cancel out bosses when they call us out??? This new generation GenZ is. Veryyyy sensitive and loveeeeee to follow hate trends

I remember when Tiffany posted on iG some Japanese stickers and she was canceled for the show she was on, "Sisters Slam Dunk"

Hongbin did not deserve what happened to him 😔

Ok I just listened about what was said about Hongbin's and I wanna set the record straight as someone who watched the actual stream. 1. Shinee's Everybody About the "Everybody" criticism, he wasn't talking about the song itself, he was criticising about the choice of letting Everybody play alongside a freaking Digimon song. His critique at that part was actually VERY TAME. My opinion: It was an abomination to the ears and if cringe was a unit of measure, it'd be in the scale of the thousands! 2. The "Red Flavor"remix Without context, yeah, it would sound like what he said about the remix is bad. But if you guys actually listened to the clip, would you guys think otherwise? At first listen I thought to myself that it wasn't that bad. But after listening a second time I would say that Hongbin's statement was really tame, because the remix sounded like it was recorded next to a blender that was making a smoothie out of huge chunks of ice. It's THAT BAD. Also the one who made that remix admitted that, yes, it was bad. Edit: Ok I might've been too harsh here but yeah. To actually sum up how it sounded, it sounded like the editor was more focused on the melody, heavily synthesized it and blending the voices of RV themselves was like an afterthought. It sounded like Red Velvet was singing behind the window of the house that blasted the synthesized version of the melody in their room. 3. The "Wolf" statement It's obviously a Twilight joke. Also the ones who spread this part conveniently left out the part that he said this afterwards. "In the end, vampires and werewolves all coexist and live together in harmony." I'm not gonna defend him on the Be Mine choreo critique because yeah in my opinion I agree that it was kinda rude. Still, he is entitled to his opinion. And also do take note that he said all of this... WHILE DRUNK!!! (I'm surprised that the creator of this vid omitted that fact since it was a drunk stream.)

The ridiculous ones Somi - > Starbucks was always neutral. They sued a pro-Palestine union for using the Starbucks logo for their agenda, which is Starbucks trying to protect their trademark. Idk how TikTok narrated this story, but combined with the fact that the Starbucks founder supports Israel, people misunderstood the whole scenario and started boycotting the brand. Starbucks's founder isn't the CEO and must have other means to make money. Its not like Starbucks ignored it, but they did clarify their stance, but people don't care. Starbucks America no longer owns Starbucks in Korea. They sold their shares in 2021, and the companies that bought Starbucks Korea acquired the licensing rights to use the brand. And people are acting as if Boycotting Starbucks will end the war LOL. So Somi's actions weren't Wrong, but again if she wasn't in a position to correct this misunderstanding and got caught up in the hate train, she should have been a bit careful. Vague ones Irene -> Like as much I understand, unless people take things public, the Company and idols don't take action, but I hope such misunderstandings are resolved internally. This person just accuses Irene and again says it is a misunderstanding. Companies aren't the idol's mothers, but idols know better than anyone that image damage puts a damper on their careers. I know all idols aren't perfect, but at least they should be professional when working because their actions even damage the group's image. The reasonable one Chae-young -> What Chae-young and JYP did was wrong. As much as I understand why some people can't forgive her, I understand why she must not been aware of the swastika symbol. She debuted when she was 15, which means she didn't have a proper school life, and studies must have been hard to cope with. JYP probably gives them PR training on things that should have been avoided, but we don't know if they have touched on global historical stuff. If the idols are unaware, The company should be responsible for educating them and monitoring their social media activity. If they want their idols to be globally promoted they should have a team educated on the global news. But She wore this T-shirt to schedules in the US and no one bothered to tell her she shouldn't be wearing it. I know there are people who can no longer forgive her actions and that's fine. Still, I do wish people could give her a second chance considering she apologized immediately the moment she was notified, which at least means she wasn't aware of the severity of the symbol, but the moment she knew, she apologized. I know it's the bare minimum, but this shows she is a person who takes accountability for stuff when things go wrong. Idols usually hide behind their company or use their Korean card when they do stuff that upsets international fans, especially CA. but very few apologize personally before the company releases a statement

Honestly some of the reasoning for an K-pop “scandal”, “drama” is so stupid and dumb. Knetz will “cancel” and argue about anything. Now I know that there are a few instances where some of the actions of these idols are really bad and there’s no excuse for their behaviour but I’ve been a k-pop fan for a while now and often I see videos like these and I’m just dumbfounded by the amount of headlines about idols doing something small and fans will make it a big deal and try to out them out or “cancel” them. Koreans will hold such a high standard for these idols yet they are the same people who literally would do the same thing behind close doors

Mayve we could also mention that Hongbin was highly drunk when he made these Comments (3 Bottles of Soju and a Bottle of Wine do that to you), so it's not like he can be held accountable in the same Way as other People here. We'd also have to consider that 9 Apologies were issued. Not mentioning these Facts is just misrepresenting the Case and played a huge Part in this Event getting entirely blown out of Proportion and him having to leave the Group.

Well, most of those "scandals" seem to be blown out of proportion. Like one slip up and their so-called fan's turn on the idols. I mean for example. saying you are disgusted to have to hold 700-800 of hand in ONE day is understandable, especially if some of those fans have poor hygiene - it's normal to complain in private about that. Just because the fans pay money doesn't mean the idols have to endure everything with a smile. Or with the stylist, we only know her part of the story. Just because she screamed first doesn't make her the victim. If anything, she was truly unprofessional complaining that the idol didn't give her attention at first. She didn't even specify why they blew up on them so that nobody could target them for potentially butchering their job. The image of an idol is their livelihood, and a bad stylist could do some serious damage to that. It also takes a vile person to go straight to the Internet with their complaints, knowing that the "annonym" idols always get identified and their careers/lives damaged long-term. It should have been handled intern/privately.

The guy who complained about meet and greets with 700/800 fans is legit in his complaint, and I'm sorry he was betrayed by the person who leaked it. He just wanted to let some steam off and give his honest feelings, and he thought he could trust whoever he was talking to. We've all had complaints about people or things and vented to someone, but it's just so dirty when that someone discloses a private conversation to the public/others.

It's scary to think that the idols we cherish and adore and spend thousands of dollars on could be doing some horrible shit behind our backs and even talking shit about the fans

Its not fair to judge Irene out of the blue like, especially considering how much of a pain Sm can be

I need to know one thing from all the people who are calling chaeyoung all those stupid names have they never made any mistake in their life. Not every country teaches history of whole world. Let alone she was already a trainee at such a young age she barely got to attend her lectures. The moment she knew she apologized but what are you guys doing calling her names sending her threatening messages, is this not wrong? Also she didn't wore that top on multiple occasions she just wore it once. She just posted her photos multiple times Note: this comment is not for throwing shade to the channel owner I know he/she is just doing their job. This is just a shade for people who are just using this as an opportunity to send hate to chaeyoung

Don’t forget Kris Wu

the chae young one is reasonable imo, it was definitely wrong but it’s the intention. it’s not like she wore that to support it she was just very ignorant about the history of it.

"Sweet idol they used to see". Well maybe because all of them are humans after all, and have emotions and limits as all of us. It's so sick that so many people cannot get their head around the fact that idols are in fact just humans, and they have right to have opinions and to state them, they also have right as every human to stand for themselves.

The Owner of this chanel must smoke some really strong shitt when he thinks that Cheayoung is over.

1 idol got lost respect of everybody including fellow idol

any update on the cat in shelter? hope he finds the right owner so sad what happened on him

Bastard for hurting and neglecting his cat. Irresponsible!

Can someone plz explain to me why are ppl in the comments deffending trashy idols.

For Hongbin it was completely different. His words were taken out of context and haters twisted his words. He is still very much loved and missed by Starlights⭐💙

Chaeyoung never lost the respect 💀

infinite's Be Mine is one of the most memorable dances of their generation, the song is iconic. To each their own i guess.

I really wanna know why you only focus on the negative side of Kpop but never the positive one that's why I never trust Kpop drama channels they always want attention from Kpop stans no matter if it's good news or bad news but drama channels always focus on negative stuff since it draws the most attention but GIRL I'm tired of it that's why I keep myself away from most Kpop fans since the toxicity only gets more ridiculous and unrealistic where I feel like Kpop fans are also a part of the problem as well

It's crazy how you can't even say you don't like another K-pop song without getting kicked out the group. Hongbin not liking the songs has nothing to do with the fans. Regarding Jay, dude obviously didn't mean harm so ruining his career over 1 mistakes is dumb. Regarding Chaeyong. It's just a freaking shirt with a singer on it. I swear K-pop fans might be one of the most sensitive and toxic people

I mean, I'm living online and didn't know about Starbucks boycott until this channel so maybe Somi missed it too?

Yeah ever since chaeyounv did that I lost respect for her. Like how do you not know about the holocaust?

As a german I can't watch any twice anymore or Listen to it because of chaeyoung. And my french-german friend also can't anymore. In Germany this girl Would be in jail.

In Irene's case, I can never blame her because everyone can has issue and get mad over something. You're not a human if you never get mad at someone that bad. Only because she's an artist, she's the only one who's got it bad. Everyone suddenly sees her as a 'criminal'. Lmao

im totally on irenes side. she isnt at fault, people are just way too stupid and getting mad at irene for stupid reasons.

For Somi it’s just a reusable cup

Irene was right lmao zimzalabim era’s outfits were such a mess. Look at them now almost no bad outfits since 2021

The hate with Somi and the Starbucks cup is dumb

Not the delulus in the comment section getting offended💀💀💀.

Hyuna lost everything on one photos

Wait so Somi got in trouble over a cup? Jfc people need to get a life. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Did you guys notice that this account never posts about TWICE’s comeback or good achievement but only posts when there is something bad to talk about them

Irene did what she had to do because she listens to her fans and group

Everyone?? Definitely over exaggerate.

Some of this are kinda stupid to hate on them for… I can think of wayyyyyyy worse kpop idols than should be on here. The burning sun incident wants even on here..

Here we go again

A Starbucks cup? Lol. Who has time to keep up with that shit?

It's CRAZY how many people think Chaeyoung is racist towards jewish people... did you forget that SHE IS KOREAN? N*zis allied with Imperial Japan, who ALSO committed genocide against KOREANS. Why would she have N*zi ideologies if she is KOREAN?? That's like saying she is racist with herself... The swastika (tilted) and manji (straight) symbols look very similar, but have very different meanings! Manji means 'good fortune' in East Asia, but N*zi Germany modified that symbol into a swastika and used it for racism. Chaeyoung said she didn't correctly recognize the meaning of the tilted swastika, so she most likely confused it with the manji symbol. If you try to argue that "she should've known about the swastika," then who's to say that Koreans were educated about N*zi Germany on the same level as the West? She most likely knew about Hitler, but didn't focus too much on the symbol of the party. Koreans most likely focused on the wrongdoings of Imperial Japan, not N*zi Germany! I bet if you showed the Rising Sun symbol to the average American, they wouldn't know what it is - just look at Bella Poarch's rising sun scandal!

Conflict ?? Its Genocide!!

I'll never understand the Somi hate

i don’t know who hwayoung is but i think the hate to him is stupid. everybody complains about their jobs. and it’s not like he said it to his fans faces. k-pop fans have such unrealistic standards towards idols. don’t they realize they are people too?! i bet most idols complain about obsessive fans, literally anybody would. they are so annoying. netizens need to realize idols are humans.

Irene was in her right to yell at that woman. The stylist messed up. And that mess up Lead to Irene having to HOLD her mic pack that FELL OFF her dress and Joy having dress malfunctions that nearly led her being exposed to millions of viewers. I would've thrown stuff at that stupid stylist. You have ONE job which you're being paid A LOT of money to do. If you don't do it right, you're liable for ruining MULTIPLE people's reputation. I respect Irene for standing in her moral ground and yelling at that idiotic stylist. That woman deserves to get fired and for her job to be forever compromised for being a moron.

Wtf what about Himchan from BAP and that guy from Big Bang being involved in SA?

Hyuna is making bad choices with dating Junhyung. Hwayoung will be forever known as the snake that ruins T-ara's career, and she still has a career but not a successful one, to say the least despite landing some acting roles i

They really gon try and cancel Somi for a freaking cup meanwhile international females going crazy for a "Starbucks Stanely Cup" because a car caught fire and the ice didn't melt S/N: Chaeng strikes me as smart.. I believe she wore a shirt not as a symbol of hate but as tribute to the artist she just listens to music and has respect for artistry as an artist so she wore a shirt with sid vicious as who he was and aint nothing wrong with that.. Netizens don't do her!

Ironic cause Chaeyoung in mexico is viral right now😭 everybody's whipped for her, and tbf she's literally glowing right now.

I would like to add that there is an experiment video in KZfaq, they showed koreans the Nazi symbol and most of them didn't know it.✌️

Hongbin’s the real one tho. I'm a fan os all these groups and he was y fav in VIXX and I don't see where's the problem. He was just too honest for these delulus, besides he's never offended members themselves, he was throwing shade towards producers and choreographers alongside with those who created the concepts. He said nothing wrong. My friend and I talk the same shit about albums and MVs, because, shoker, groups cannot exist for years and have spotless discography or perfect dances and MVs every single time AND that's ok. BTW the guy who didn't like touching hands and stinky breaths was so real for that too. 😭

THIS CHANNEL DOESNT STOP ISTFG

HyunA lost all my respect. Amen. She ditch Dawn for a harasser. Somi's one was just so not cool of her. Chaeyoung too. Irene's was sad because it is always the idol's fault right? I'm pretty sure the stylist did sth to her for her to act like that. If that is how she is then she wouldn't have been an idol for so long.

about irene, before the style controversy.. she have been targeted for everything she does even when she is truly innocent.. the stylist story actually is not true but u know haters and company apologize systems, they don't even care about the truth

you're 100% wrong about the Starbucks thing with Jeon Somin! Starbucks Korea is 100% owned by Koreans and has been like that for a few years. So her drinking starbucks coffee in KOrea doesn't mean that she's supporting the real starbucks (the american company). You need to fact check things before posting stuff. That way, you won't be wrong about your claims...

Jae (Eaj now) and Jamie are still friends, but that situation disgust me anyway

I still like Somi hate me for it. To cancel someone over a starbucks cup be fr right now. (and yes I support palestina)

I am a shawol and I think that it was too harsh for Hongbin to leave Vixx. I mean okay as a fan I can understand that his words might be hurtful, but he apologized and Shinee is good friends with Vixx so...

Can someone tell me what it means when an idol begins boycotts because I don't get it. Recently, I saw a video about some idol that it happened to and didn't really understand what was going on and what they did wrong.

if i was irene i would do that too like pls

I feel like if you keep doing it without apologizing then I feel like you deserve to lose the respect bc yes we all make mistakes but if you keep doing it without apology then yikes

I don't like Irene's behavior because in 2017 I was accidentally on a plane with a redvelvet member and I witnessed Irene's true behavior

The woman who doesn't deserve any respect is Jennie

Just look at any twice concert and see how fans love and support Son cheayoung screaming from their lungs, The people who claim to lose respect never cared about twice anyway . Grow up

Those who were waiting for Seungri 👇

Are we not gonna talk about seungri ?

Considering I'm a girl group stan, I didn't knew about number 1. As a cat mom I am seething. I've always had mutts because they're less overbred. I happened to have the luck that a mutt kitten I adopted turnt out to be a halfbreed (half-oriental short hair). She had 1 litter before I had her spayed (the dad was a mutt). Halfbreeds are the true lottery prize and I've updated my adoption preferences from mutts to mutts & halfbreeds. Halfbreeds are healthier but still have purebred traits. Even my quarter-breds have a few purebred traits each like her eldest daughter loves playing fetch- behavior more commonly found amongst Oriental cats & Siamese. Her kittens were each a surprise of their own because of their mixed traits.

Blackpink lost my respect tbh (mainly Lisa tho) Also for Somi, i didnt know anything about the starbucks thing eventhough im online all the time…

Yall could never make me hate Irene. Plus she never shared her side of the story