Korean War 1950s Dogfights | Mig-15Bis Vs F-86 Sabre | Digital Combat Simulator

Korean War 1950s Dogfights | Mig-15Bis Vs F-86 Sabre | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

Рет қаралды 173,185

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-s...
American Murder Hornet Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-s...
I'm A Cat Person Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-s...
Mission Download: drive.google.com/file/d/1otfR...
Join the channel if you wish to support
/ @growlingsidewinder
If You'd like to Support the Channel on Patreon:
/ growlingsidewinder
Join my Discord:
/ discord
Amazon Links for the products I use if you're interested:
_________________________________________________________
Link for Thrustmaster 16000M: amzn.to/2PQGYf2
Link for Trackir 5: amzn.to/2VSN4kt
Link for Warthog throttle/stick: amzn.to/2Vbfhyp
Social Media
________________________________________________________
Twitter: / growlingaim9
Facebook: / growlingaim9
Contact me:
GrowlingSidewinder@hotmail.com
Processors: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core 3.4GHz (4.9GHz Max Boost)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite WiFi
Memory: 128GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3200MHz (4x32GB)
System Cooling: CORSAIR H100i PRO XT RGB
Graphics Cards: NVIDIA 10GB GeForce RTX 3080
Operating System: MS Windows 10 Professional
Operating System Drive: 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus PCIe NVMe
Hard Drive: 2TB Samsung 980 PRO
Power Supply: CORSAIR AX1600i ATX Titanium
HeadTracker: Trackir5
Thrustmaster F/A-18C Hornet stick and Warthog Throttle.
Thrustmaster TRP pedals.
On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

Пікірлер: 331

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ American Murder Hornet Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/american-murder-hornet-bluepri?product=227 I'm A Cat Person Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/i-m-a-cat-person-f-14-tomcat?product=227 Mission Download: drive.google.com/file/d/1mxwcbKql26WbLjwkChkJUkrSTJNUD2Pt/view?usp=sharing ^^ Mission Download link above please note that once this link goes down I will be unable to put it back up so if you want it, grab it while you can, Thank you for watching and I hope you enjoyed the video much love guys.

@lcpgalvan2013 2 жыл бұрын

What would it take for you to consider flying against me in a war thunder Sim fight? I did just get dcs but I need a dedicated stick for my pc, so im still extremely limited in that respect for dcs... but it's be willing to help fund your entry to war thunder and get you at least to the middle of the tech tree while I work on getting my dcs upto snuff.. would you consider it?

@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын

Okay Bromigo, I've Subscribed! Let's see how it goes😁✌

@JamesSmith-ho7kg 2 жыл бұрын

GS: “I’ve joined the North Korean Air Force” NSA: *remote access connected*

@Joseph-xj4ex 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@groundpounder0541 2 жыл бұрын

Remember when they put a man on Saturn and back to Earth in 24 hours? That was awesome.

@anthonyb5279 2 жыл бұрын

@@groundpounder0541 Or the 2 guys on the Sun! they went at night so they would not get burned.

@CakePrincessCelestia 2 жыл бұрын

I know somepony who was stuck on the moon for a 1000 years...

@That_Freedom_Guy 2 жыл бұрын

The NSA would begin playing DCS too I reckon!

@gimmeabreak4435 2 жыл бұрын

The Mig-15 is so good the North Korean Air force still uses them

@krain.8245 2 жыл бұрын

They are just poor lmao

@gimmeabreak4435 2 жыл бұрын

@@krain.8245 The joke must be around here somewhere.

@aybaws 2 жыл бұрын

@@gimmeabreak4435 I haven’t found it, have you?

@merajuddin7716 2 жыл бұрын

@@krain.8245 actually they have retired them

@merajuddin7716 2 жыл бұрын

Now they use mig 21s and mig 29s which are non- functional

@allenarneson4349 2 жыл бұрын

As Chuck Yeager stated in his book "It is not the plane, it is the pilot". Chuck waxed a Colonel who was flying a captured Mig 15 and Chuck in a Sabre. The Colonel was pissed and made him exchange planes. Chuck beat him again flying the Mig 15.

@lord_kerman Жыл бұрын

Yeah I read that book too he also brought the MiG faster than any of the Soviets thought it could go

@TheBashar327 Жыл бұрын

"It's not the gun, it's the rifleman." Just before the company of bolt action armed troops get mowed down by the entrenched machine gun. As the effectiveness of the weapon goes up, inversely the relevance of the user need for skill goes down.

@rhysgoodman7628 Жыл бұрын

@@TheBashar327 likewise, a monkey with a machine gun will be outmatched by a special forces marksman. So while your point is true, there is a lot of room for exception.

@tdm5100 Жыл бұрын

@@lord_kerman did he break the sound barrier on mig-15?😂

@YilmazMeteGuler Жыл бұрын

pretty sure it was maverick who said that. also rooster reminded him that statement when they forced to do a dogfight with a felon using a tomcat. jk

@FightCain 2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in war thunder: “let’s make these Korean War jets without missiles face SuperSonics with missiles”

@ImTrashOnPurpose 2 жыл бұрын

play your advantage. U can out manuever any missile and any supersonic

@Hydra_6544 2 жыл бұрын

@@ImTrashOnPurpose not really WT doesn’t like realism

@lucignolo8333 Жыл бұрын

@@Hydra_6544 you can tho

@rikrayarcade 2 жыл бұрын

I remember this quote "Hey guys , today we are flying in the MiG-15 NATO code *rather not say* " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@sbg911 2 жыл бұрын

LOL'ed when GS said "look he's going into the vertical" while referring to a black speck in an almost 99% black screen.

@SteveMogerley 2 жыл бұрын

I have to clean my monitor every time I watch you’re videos as I regularly find myself staring at specs of dust thinking it’s the bandit.

@bitkarek 2 жыл бұрын

kudos to that last Sabre pilot.

@Wolf-Nyan 2 жыл бұрын

Love the smoke and fire effects when a wing gets blown off. I think the aircraft itself should have the same effect, it’s weird to see a wing fragment go full fireball while a blown up fuselage only has a few feet of thin smoke and a candle.

@hemendraravi4787 2 жыл бұрын

War thunder has a decent bit of Korean era aircraft but it’s gonna take a lot of time for u to get there but it’s war thunder lol

@anthonyb5279 2 жыл бұрын

Very good fight. Historically the F-86 proved better due to maintenance and properly isolated systems let it take more damage and keep flying. Pneumatic failures were common in the MiG-15. no backup system and due to centralized bottle fed system a cockpit seal failure also resulted in flight control and break failure. After my Friend Ed died due to losing his breaks from a cockpit seal leak I replaced the Nitrogen bottles with a pump with bottle backup and added a valve to isolate the cockpit seal as well as make a new seal with better materials. Many MiGs were sitting ducks due to this type of failure and easy pickings. This was probably the biggest factor that put the F-86 over the MiG-15 otherwise they were fairly even. The other big factor was poor training. The Russian pilots did much better than the poorly trained North Korean pilots. This was manly due to the un-commanded snap roll tendency in a descending right hand turn. The Russian pilots were able to manage this problem better and exploit it to achieving an advantage.

@lourencoalmada1305 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, you worked on Mig-15s???

@johndave117 Жыл бұрын

the F 86 was not better NATO shill At best the F 86 was even with the mig 15.

@michealgray533 Жыл бұрын

@@johndave117 in all fairness current events back up the statement that soviet maintenance was subpar at best or just completely forgone

@davegeisler7802 Жыл бұрын

News flash , the Mig 15 was better than the F86 Sabre in climb rate , rate of turn and ceiling level and could fight on its terms . The Mig 15 was superior to the F86A and E model , sorry facts are the facts. It wasn't until the F86F that the Sabre was on equal footing.

@davegeisler7802 Жыл бұрын

@@johndave117 not exactly John Dave the Mig was better than the F86A and E model , but the F86F was slightly better than the Mig 15.

@awoekhn7421 2 жыл бұрын

Day always gets better when you upload

@wolfpack571 2 жыл бұрын

Now use the 37mm to intercept B-29's!

@R4p70r26 2 жыл бұрын

GS went full "Mine Mine Mine Mine"

@debbiestimac5175 2 жыл бұрын

Full on, "fangs out". USAF General Robin Olds used the term frequently. It is why Growling's logo is so appropriate. "I see what I want and go for it." Viper : "I like that in a fighter pilot." Growling : 😃

@Stinger522 2 жыл бұрын

Not only did the Mig-15s have a height and energy advantage, but they also had a numbers advantage too.

@raylake6611 2 жыл бұрын

What a vid! Love these Korean war uploads, the period is just in general so overlooked!

@IronMan-xm3lg 2 жыл бұрын

The best of the video: "hold this.....!" That was fun dude great vid.....!

@titaniummechanism3214 2 жыл бұрын

That last Sabre-pilot is going to get himself a really nice medal for what he managed to do there. Good thing he was able to eject! Edit: If he doesn't get captured, that is.

@HallowedError 2 жыл бұрын

Gives me the vibes from that old dogfight show on the History channel back when it was good

@kiwihame 2 жыл бұрын

Some superb flying there GS! 👌 Love these planes as much as WW2.

@Taco_Threat 2 жыл бұрын

"Hold this." Click - BOOM! Lol. Thanks for the great vid.

@member5488 2 жыл бұрын

More bomb tonnage was dropped on North Korea during the 3 years the war was hot than was dropped in the entire WWII Pacific campaign.

@Xiphactinus 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't work out well for the US then eh? All that, and, for the first time, to come away without a win.

@loumencken9644 2 жыл бұрын

@@Xiphactinus On the other hand, at least South Korea isn't under the thumb of a murderous Communist regime and as a result is one of the most prosperous countries in the world, and not subject to repeated famines like the North. So there's that. And cue the excuses from Marxists like you as to why North Korea is a poverty stricken hell hole while the South is free and rich.

@welchsbeanjuice8071 2 жыл бұрын

@@loumencken9644 Lmao pissy fit just to call him a marxist.

@Xiphactinus 2 жыл бұрын

@@loumencken9644 not defending the DPRK, just saying that perhaps Korea was the first realisation that more bombs don't always win wars, as also shown in Vietnam. Perhaps it was the first truly modern campaign in that winning hearts and minds was potentially more important than winning by means of bombs dropped. On famines, I have heard that a decent level of DPRK deaths aren't from malnutrition, but NCDs like cancer, indicating some level of food security (whether or not the food in question is carcinogenic is another debate all together). If we're really going down the communism is when no food road, look at where I live, the UK. Empty shelves, and a shortage of HGV drivers to drive petrol to the petrol stations (both linked to the tory-led brexit) show shortages aren't necessarily exclusive to one economic model over another.

@Losten100 2 жыл бұрын

@@loumencken9644 in that time South Korea was a murderous anticommunist regime that destroyed any resistance against South Koreans who served Japan under occupation. So South Korean regime were not so different from nazis. And nowadays it is such a prosperous country even it's own citizens call it "hell" and dream to leave it.

@seangall7637 2 жыл бұрын

Very entertaining video GS!!! LOVE that freakin' cannon!!!

@cocobeans706 2 жыл бұрын

That was fun to watch. Always great content.

@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray 2 жыл бұрын

Growling Sidewinder®: "Just call me . . . *_Honcho_* . . ."

@ble688 2 жыл бұрын

I Miss the good old days in warthunder

@moose5293 2 жыл бұрын

Fuckin eh

@tomsonlarrson3318 2 жыл бұрын

yeah, sabres vs migs was the shit

@thatguy7990 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomsonlarrson3318 now it's mig15 vs draken 🥶🥶

@meanderingmarley3910 2 жыл бұрын

0:31 "Negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full."

@MisteriosGloriosos922 2 жыл бұрын

*Amazing video, Well done!!!*

@MrDino1953 2 жыл бұрын

Often wondered why the F 86 Sabre was able to have “clean” wings while the MiG 15’s wings needed “fences” to control vortices.

@yuvimoi3065 2 жыл бұрын

The f sabres too had small fencess , migs wings were handmade

@debbiestimac5175 2 жыл бұрын

MiG-15 is mid fuselage mounted, whereas F-86 is a low wing arrangement, therefore laminar flow characteristics are different at similar AOA. The fences simply delay wing stall that was not as pronounced in the Sabre.

@miquelescribanoivars5049 2 жыл бұрын

@@debbiestimac5175 AFAIK the installation of slats in the initial production version of the F-86's (and the F-40 as a retrofit) was also partly to avoid the wing stall effect?

@debbiestimac5175 2 жыл бұрын

@@miquelescribanoivars5049 Yes, this was indeed to address the same issue, though a much more elegant design than snow plow sized wing fences, don't you agree?

@Flyingcircustailwheel 2 жыл бұрын

@@debbiestimac5175 hahaha 😂😂😂😂

@waltergreif4836 2 жыл бұрын

sound of cannon is without equal!! great action also! Thanks!

@jaime.27.CBR. 2 жыл бұрын

Is this guy trained to flight a Mig? Lets listen to him... "I found a bounch of my comrads..." Yes its weeell trained hahaha

@dioad1739 2 жыл бұрын

That one shot one kill was nice I enjoy fights over mig alley great video.

@derhobbylose3413 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sidewinder, I have an idea for a video. You could do a ground target missian with the Mig 15 or F 4:)

@LogieT2K 2 жыл бұрын

Love the early cold war jets, it would be cool if some one made modules for early bristish amd french jets too. Hunters and Ouragans would he cool to have

@baomao7243 2 жыл бұрын

I may have to revisit these fighters. Jet aircraft … except without the BVR and weapons complexity. Looks fun.

@StevenMRA 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, you really were dogged in your pursuit of that last kill.

@gilmer3718 Жыл бұрын

This looks so real. Very impressed.

@captainicelander3898 2 жыл бұрын

NAILD IT once again my friend. Thanks for awsome contents.

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын

thanks buddy much love, hope you're doing well boss.

@captainicelander3898 2 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks brother i am. Same to you

@rahulsaini8 2 жыл бұрын

You should invite that last Sabre pilot for a match.

@ThatOtherDave 2 жыл бұрын

That battlefield 1942 music gets me every time 😆

@kallaji7383 2 жыл бұрын

GS: "That was a good fight by the F86 Saber" Apparently, not good enough. 😆

@samsc6728 Жыл бұрын

Were all those Migs players?! That's epic!

@dlr1668 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video 😎👍👍

@jimmcc51 2 жыл бұрын

Love the videos!

@justauser5817 2 жыл бұрын

Man, that 37 mils dont give a second chance!

@blacktail522 2 жыл бұрын

Proper air to air duelling. Nothing fancy. Guns and jets. The mig 15bis is my favourite.

@cloudforest4087 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see more of those 37mm cannons at work.

@AARONANKRUM Ай бұрын

GS as a "Honcho" Early on, the only slight advantage the F-86s had was the movable tail with allow them to higher speed dives. It wasn't until the D version that the F-86 could match the MiG-15 in speed, altitude and climb rate.

@Alcom6 2 жыл бұрын

hello I watch many if your vids. I want to get involved but have so much anxiety about get started. question. do u use a keyboard or joystick and throttles. and also if I wanted to get started theres so much to learn. what a great resource.

@disposablehero4911 2 жыл бұрын

An F86 with the mig15's canon on it would have been an epic gen1 fighter.

@swright5690 2 жыл бұрын

People don’t think cannons be like they are, but they do.

@DaOneEnOnly 2 жыл бұрын

You should find that f86 pilot and invite him on to the channel.

@SnaketheJake87 2 жыл бұрын

Here's your hot peace for the KZfaq algorithm

@therealad1238 2 жыл бұрын

Next GS Video: Joining the North Korean AirForce IRL

@markdavis2475 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love that Rolls Royce engine....the one in the MIG! RR sold Spey engines to China in the 1970s and even tried to sell them Harriers!

@algroyp3r 10 ай бұрын

The Mig has a noticeable armament advantage. The Sabre needs a solid half second of gun time to do reliable damage. Mig can kill with a few rounds.

@asmodeus0454 Жыл бұрын

Lovely day for a dogfight!

@AdamWalkLikeSuicide 2 жыл бұрын

It's a satisfying thunker , that cannon.

@andreipendle1778 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful close-in knife kills. Give us moar killcam!

@ShootBlueHelmets 2 жыл бұрын

That said, a what if video vs B17, B29, P51 would be cool.

@mukiderg2963 2 жыл бұрын

finally some dogfights in the MIG 15

@pokiou 2 жыл бұрын

Original Battle field theme song.. nice choice.

@togetherworksemail 2 жыл бұрын

Great flying skills

@fortza11 2 жыл бұрын

I love your comments, sitting by myself and laughing!!

@franken-aye1177 2 жыл бұрын

Hey brother. How about an iron eagle rematch. F16 vs Kfir. Of course you gotta drive the Kfir against the F16.

@johnhermann7498 2 жыл бұрын

A good old fashioned furball at 15,000 feet!

@free0483 2 жыл бұрын

I love the mig15 haha. Wee need those cannons on the mossie

@williamkoppos7039 2 жыл бұрын

I've got no cannon sound effects. Surely those big guns make an audible bang in the cockpit?

@Highice007 2 жыл бұрын

Next time i would like to see how you do piloting an early Korean War battle, P-51D VS Yak 9U.

@Cybetrexs 2 жыл бұрын

No combat-capable yaks in DCS.

@Highice007 2 жыл бұрын

@@Cybetrexs but they were combat capable. I read about how early in the Korean War they straffed some South Korean runways, and Dean Hess talks about fighting them in his book Battle Hymn.

@Cybetrexs 2 жыл бұрын

@@Highice007 no, I mean in DCS, hence why i said “in dcs”. The only Yak module in DCS is a trainer with no munitions. Hard to dogfight with no guns.

@Highice007 2 жыл бұрын

@@Cybetrexs Ah ok good point.

@gosborg 2 жыл бұрын

Real artistry!

@singlechristiancowboy 11 ай бұрын

Like to see some F8 Crusader action.

@jakerubino3233 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, ur a Russian pilot eh Growling Song Lee? Riiiight 😆 Make sure to salute Kim when you take off!

@ettavictor4804 2 жыл бұрын

I'm new to this game. Do the "blackout" scenes such as from 12:53 to 13:00 simulate loss of consciousness?

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 жыл бұрын

Yes due to G force

@mikemortensen4973 2 жыл бұрын

Which model of the F-86 was that? The later models were much better opponents to the Mig than the early ones. Especially the F-86E or F models. At least that's what I remember off the top of my head anyway. I'll have to look into that again.

@Strengthandconditioning60 Жыл бұрын

Surprised at the ranges these could fly

@GradeEhCanadian 2 жыл бұрын

Really wanted to get into this game and flight simulators but can't afford to set up little… I am really curious what you used to play

@oliabid-price4517 2 жыл бұрын

The MiG 15 and the F86 are so closely matched due to the fact that they were both derived from the wartime Messerschmitt P1101 program which was subsequently continued by both the Americans and the Russians after WW2.

@miquelescribanoivars5049 2 жыл бұрын

I'd argue the MiG-15 borrows more from the Ta. 183.

@Robert53area 2 жыл бұрын

Wish I could see more inside this cockpit, I was trying to read the tag on the right of the instruments, I only could make out the top and the bottom. Something about launch into the air, and last word was included. I can read russian, but hard to see from video, I have no idea what the acronyms mean.

@crow7505 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a ca-27 model saber in game!

@enzannometsuke8812 2 жыл бұрын

you betcha, bigger engine and armed with the 4x20mm cannon

@ianrabbas9618 2 жыл бұрын

@@enzannometsuke8812 armed with 2 Aden 30mm cannon.....

@shi_towndownsouth7736 2 жыл бұрын

That hero status...lmao

@Thetasigmaalpha 2 жыл бұрын

Ever want to recreate the mig, sea fury battle?

@TheGrant65 2 жыл бұрын

Would be great to see Saab Tunnan, Gloster Meteor F.8, F9F Panther and other contemporaries v MiG-15

@walterblanc9708 2 жыл бұрын

And the Hawker Sea Fury?

@thereub8166 2 жыл бұрын

What's that "winking" indicator on the left side of the cockpit?

@dhooter 2 жыл бұрын

Did they design the program to be realistic? As in the Mig 15 needing a crazy long runway for take off? Also the 15 not liking slow speeds for landing. The wings will start dipping at slow landing speeds

@TheNecromancer6666 2 жыл бұрын

Working the good old Nudelmann-Richter 37 and 23

@nickhimaras9331 2 жыл бұрын

C'mon guys! F86s, just flying around aimlessly, each one by itself, waiting to be shot down by (expertly flown, aggressive) Mig15s... (Science fiction is good, but you have gotten us used to some challenging fights and/or some good humor!)

@ulisesvelez5846 2 жыл бұрын

can also thrmig-15bis were armed with 2-23mm cannos and also one 37-mm cannon.

@richardmorton4259 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see the ME 262 and maybe the Ho 229 against some Mig 15s, F 86s, or F9Fs.

@JohnSmith-xd8do 2 жыл бұрын

Dog fights in the Korean war were very similar to "jousting" on horses.

@prestonallen8966 2 жыл бұрын

front gear on those mig-15s looks like it's gonna fall off during take off..

@alandope8733 2 жыл бұрын

Aye yo sup can ya recreate when Indian mig21 downed four paf f104 the most long awaited dogfight and yes I’m a fan for migs that’s why my name is Soviet lmao