I am non-army, just now getting into BTS, doing a lot of reading, watching videos and my admiration for BTS continues to grow and gratitude to ARMY for doing as much as they do to support BTS in their continued battles, ARMY you are amazing. Thank you so much for providing so much material to non-army, to learn more. Thank you and Happy New Year.

@@WilliamsAK07 try watching ' Rise of bangtan ' ... it will help you .. bts has too much content.. so sometimes it's hard to keep up.. Rise of bangtan is the best Edit: rise of bangtan is no longer available 😭

@@kamalhossan5694 pero ese video es hecho por fans y aveces dan informacion errónea o no dan mucha informacion

@@andrewchavarria3255 rise of bangtan was made by a fan and it was perfect... No body could say it wasn't official... but sadly it's no logical available

@@kamalhossan5694 tambien hay videos de "conoce a los miembros de BTS"... estos videos reflejan los talentos de los chicos de BTS pero es mal hecho. Un ejemplo es que no investigan bien cuando Jin sabe surf, buceo, sabe tocar la guitarra, el piano, sabe hacer snowboarding... y solo se enfocan en jk cuando solo lo ha hecho una vez en su vida, y en introducción ya lo ponen de prodigio y los fans nuevos que recien conocen a BTS se creen todo

Seriously who was not cringy as a teen?! To still get hate for it 10, 11 years later is weird

Wait what kind of dress??Can someone explain it to me? I don't know abt it

@@sejal0740 they're talking about their style of clothing prior to HYYH

And as someone who is black and grow up in the hood I had no problem how they dressed because everyone like about every race dressed like that

I didn’t find it cringy at all.

I agree with everything. And Jungkook liked to sing but he fell in love with dance and wanted to do more of it.

EXACTLY. That is how I became part of army in 2015 and FOREVER MORE.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER Another point proven to pay homage👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Agree with everything! That's totally me!! I actually never liked K-pop, still don't, but BTS captured my ears, my attention and my heart imediately!! with their music, lyrics, storyline, personalities their love and respect for each other and their love and relationship with Army 💜🙏

I could not agree more, in my opinion, Bighit really invested in them by supporting their passion and letting them find their own path/voice/identify. It is quite taught given it was unheard of for idol group but slowly and organically BTS & BigHit manage to do it. For me they are more than just an artist/performer but they are an epitome of movement. Also, I remember seeing an old video mentioning before Jin wanted to be an actor he like to be a journalist and talk about social issues.

I agree fully with this.

YUP

thisss

So true 🙏💜 our humble kings

So why have they bragged multiple times about their riches? That's not very "wealth is quiet" of them. Y'all are so fucking stupid it's insane. There's nothing wrong with saying what you have but let's not say they've been quiet about it.

Media play in Korea is insane, they hate the group that made them known in the world, ungrateful people.

Seriously so true. If it wasn’t for BTS I wouldn’t have known or care about Korea.

@@caribbeanstudies5340 true

@@caribbeanstudies5340 If it weren't for BTS, all I'd know about Korea is that my mother's late husband fought in the conflict there as a young man, and lost a lot of friends. There are moments when I wonder what my stepfather would think of my interest in a Korean group, given the nightmares that plagued him for the rest of his life. But I think he would have appreciated BTS. Their country, maybe not so much.

That's crazy, I went in 2018 and BTS was literally everywhere 😳

S. Korea under reports BTS's achievements all the time while blowing up much lesser achievements of other groups. A lot of times, when they do report on it, it is backhanded.

It's the music industry that does not allow play time on the radio, music videos on tv, the people in general there know about BTS. Although Bit Hit/Hybe has the money, they dont' have the connections to the radio and tv. So BTS still isn't really visible in S. Korea because the ones that do have the connections, still trying to hold BTS back and now not only BTS but other artists that are associated with Big Hit/Hybe.

It's really upsetting tbh. I can't believe they are STILL underaprecated in their own country. It's embarrassing to S.K.

@@WilliamsAK07 that's jelousy loud and clear! The big 3 cannot accept the fact that BTS is up there. But who cares about these big 3 and their cohorts anyway! I care that other countries outside SK acknowledge BTS achievements... that they are loved so well. BTS will go down history as the best group ever!

@@sylviabondoc3870 BTS and ARMY together are battling the music industries as a whole; BBMA always changing the rules, Grammy’s even though BTS is the most accomplished still not awarding them, Western music industry still not playing them on radio. Spotify deleting a lot of their streams, KZfaq deleting a lot of views on a daily basis. BTS and ARMY battling a lot of corrupt systems and payola systems on top of prejudice and jealousy! ARMY and BTS!!!

i have to dissagree with the 'All kpop fans were so happy with BTS at the beginning' part. Bts have recieved hate all troughout their career. there were always a lot of kpop fans angry with bts even when they wern't populair. Accusing them of plaigerizing, sending death treaths, banding together to get hatefull hasthaggs trending ..... A lot of kpop fans have always hated bts.

@@melody3761 I do agree with you. I was referring especially at the mass hate by kpopies that it came with BTS success

@@Riviere8281 It got more intens with their succes, but sadly it has always been there.

@marijane12 exactly, I will never forget those difficult moments for BTS and for us, even some kpopies laughed after Tae grandmother passed away and said terrible things. I will never forgive them.

@@Riviere8281 It's exo-l and Blinks right i never hate any fandom but after knowing this ,i don't have respect for them.

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It's out of fear and jealousy that K-pop fans get offended for no reason. They can't accept changes because their egos won't let them.

People really forget the fact that the founders of K-pop passed the torch to BTS. He saw the meaning behind their songs that related to his too they had the similar mindset when making strong opposing music . He could have picked Big Bang or TVXQ or Bap or any other groups kpoppies mentioned paved the way buh he saw BTS and crowned them that's literally a very big thing and people disregard it

kpop fans love to bring up bigbang, snsd, 2ne1, shinee etc all the time but they would NEVER bring up seo taiji. the actual FOUNDER of kpop lol. says a lot abt them.

Also, because those people/k-pop stans were wrong about BTS and can't seem to deal with being wrong so they find ways to make excuses rather than just apologizing and owning up to their mistakes. At the end of the day, it only affects them in a negative way. They think it's fun to bring down artists.

@@littlehillsgroup213 Seo Taiji made kpop but didn’t pave no way💀

True

Ohh ya.. their lil e-g-o comes in between

Did you watch the video or what ? They are not in denial, they are very smart and know their stuff

@@isidnsl6651 we are talking about majority of k-popies in general who are 24/7 in denial

Well said 💜 and BTS is very humble and never give air big celebrity, i come across this video by 1 of member group call Treasure when he meet Jhope at MAMA award 2022 he said how sweet Jhope is and how Jhope keep bowing and become like bowing contest

To be honest, I think BlackPink knew that BTS paved the way for Kpop, and they(BlackPink) were 'forced' to make that message

Yeah, it's generally not the idols that have a problem with it. Kard, Jackson Wang, Twice, and others have given them credit for this. It's the fandoms and the companies that don't want to acknowledge it.

@@ystrw hats so true which they shuld acknowledge what BTS has done for kpop

most of them do actually

yes not something you would hear from a blink though🙄😒

I agree. Twice overall vibes are so good and i like a lot of their music too.

I too love Boracity magazine, every thing she does because she lays out all the undeniable facts that cannot be disputed. I don’t know who that girl group was that was in the video who stupidly said they were the ones paving the way but obviously drank the poison kool aid fed to them. I’m not particularly a fan of Kpop but I really do NOT care for girl groups except for Mammamoo because they don’t sound like the other girl groups who all sound alike. The group Twice in the video seems like very nice young women even if I don’t care for their music.

@@happystansot7892 the group was Blackpink, that claimed they paved the way. XCeleste thinks their company had a lot to do with that statement....

A beautiful accident 😊💜

same for me. i have been army for 3 years and i can´t go a day without listening to their songs. depending on my mood of the day I have a work playlist with the more slower songs and a workout playlist too. they have it all. one of my favorites is also outro tear. but i also love butterfly and blue and grey and magic ship and microkosmos.. lol the list is long i don´t think i a can make a top 10. it might be top 20

Ofc.. it's the e-g-o problem

@@aishwaryaahirrao yes and they're actually jealous because their fav could never 🤷

To be Honest most of Blackpink's achievements are exaggerated to high level with lots of Mediaplays. Like Yes Blackpink is popular... Is doing great for Girlgroup history. But are they popular enough to be labelled along with BTS? Or are they anywhere near the biggest Western artists & dominating other industry like BTS did? A BIG NO!!

Like... They got a Billboard #1, They got a Spotify #1 and was #1 way more weeks than BTS, They have way more subscribers and views than BTS... Like They got all these records in hand but the difference is how and why they got these records in first place. If we look at the stats clearly... Butter could easily be #1 stay there for atleast 2-3 weeks on Spotify if filtering rate weren't so high. Besides the fact Shut down & PV debuted #1, it was out of Spotify way faster than any songs in history..mainwhile Dynamite stayed on Top 10 for 4 whole months. They only could debut #1 on BB200 after promoting crazy and putting lot of versions & even having a countdown for Billboard tracking period helping out blinks to achieve the record. Even with big KZfaq subs and views... Blackpink got way lesser interaction in their video (comments and likes) than BTS. It simply shows that some tatics helps them achieve few feats but overall popularity can never be compared to what BTS has.

@@JaserKing123 you measure influence by looking at success? All of their tickets are sold out. And no matter what they wear, that item will never be on the market.Its influence is not limited to music, children.

Bp's influence, it can affect other industries besides music. And you should know that kpop earns a lot from Asia.

@@parkpark6976 All the tickets selling out in an arena and all the tickets selling out in a stadium are two vastly different things. Selling out products that have a limited stalk and selling out literal cars and mobiles which usually have a large production and selling cost (like BTS does) are also very different things. Lastly tell me one area in which BP is more popular than BTS in anyway... Other than views.. Even in case of views when you compare the number of MVs and video content both groups have... It'll be clear as daylight in which case it is harder to pull views. And let me tell you as an Asian myself... BTS is more popular in Asian countries as well and carts prove it quite clearly. BTS is also more popular among general people as well.

THIS THIS THIS

Yeah i agree nd yeah rm nd yoongi always talk about their influence from hip hop nd artists during interviews nd all they know about this way before even jhope who wasn't in Rap himself before but his dance style i mean freestyle nd hip hop inspired by that a lot even he started this way before his playlist during dance gives preety much idea about how much they are into hip hop music nd all..sry if i don't make sense i just don't know how to explain properly

They literally are the genuine embodiment of youth and passion. Well said about how they did not got the rapper position just because they can't sing which is prevelant on idol groups. They came into the scene with exceptional skills already in composing and producing which are the assets you need to be called an authentic hip-hop rapper. Yoongi being a beat maker selling his beats for cheap just enough to either get himself a meal or for his transpo he has to choose one. Being a composer ofcourse has always been natural for him hobi, even share a pre debut story how he would sit beside yoongi looking over his shoulder watching him write songs (out of topic but I would literally watch a movie about yoongis life). RM got introduced to Emminem by his school teacher got inspired and use his poetry to write verses then became active on amateur hip hop circle then eventually became an underground rapper. Their journey couldn't be as genuine as it could which makes up a pure hip-hop artist. And they would always mention their hip hop inspirations with respect admiration and also knowledge. Special mention to hobi which his exceptional hip hop dance skills, from the start even now he always freestyle using iconic hip-hop tracks that not all would recognise if not a true hip-hop fan

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If ARMY keeps supporting BTS, the fight for equality, something will change, not overnight but will change. The saying, three is more powerful than one, but ARMY, there is no end to ARMY. ARMY you are powerful and standing for the right thing! Small changes are already happening, keep the fight up ARMY! Just like in that one award show where they (award show) were forced to let BTS perform because ARMY made them; you have that power! I know now why BTS always is grateful to ARMY!!!!

Yes, this is exactly what happened. Now those companies and k-pop stans are upset about it lol BTS found other ways to interact with fans and also show their music on social media. It's like Namjoon said, it's something along the lines of "we will sneak up on you when you least expect it." He said something like that and it actually happened.

Perfect 💯

Yeap, even CL from 2NE1 said BTS helped made it easier for Asian artists, which is why she began doing solo projects outside of Asia. This is part of her interview below during her online press conference back in 2020 where she acknowledged BTS's impact. CL: "I was really happy when I saw BTS's milestone. When I was young, there was no Asian pop star in my childhood memory. We were supposed to express our own culture, but we were just copying other people’s culture. I thought it would be nice to have someone who can represent us.” She added, “That was why I started doing activities in foreign countries. Now, Asian and Korean singers are starting to gain popularity. It’s really easy to express and promote culture in the music industry these days.” CL continued, “This is the case for BTS. The boundaries have become much blurred. Now our music affiliates with pop music instead of just K-pop. I will also work hard to do my part. I know it may not be easy, but it’s definitely something amazing.” Honestly, people can debate about how other K-pop artists paved the way but when you have K-pop artists from 4th gen all the way back to 1st gen acknowledging BTS impact there's just nothing else to have a debate about. Also huge Japanese artists acknowledges them too.

Bollywood paved the way lol.

BTS paved the way. April fools! It was God who paved the way.

Exactly ^ especially when in AHL hiphop artists were encouraging and buying them the chains and clothes

yeah, a lot of people are just put into the 'rapper' category because they are good looking and can't sing so they don't know what else to do with them hobi didn't start as intensely as yoongi or joon but he was into the street dancing scene which is hip hop adjacent and likely grew up watching black dancers, same with jimin tae always loved jazz and jungkook trained in america jin was the only one who had the least amount of experience with black culture but jin has always been the most open minded in the group as well and doesn't really go by stereotypical korean customs (such as being a stickler for age etc.) this all contributes to success in the west as well because they already had a lot more of an understanding compared to most of their peers obviously they aren't perfect but they also had stylists too even when they debuted pushing that image i still think out of most groups bts did have more respect and understanding of not only black but western culture in general especially considering the time period the debuted, we have to remember south korea has developed really fast and a lot of the old/conservative/traditional ways couldn't catch up to how fast they developed

I think they also meant all the other stuff that happened with BTS like Jimin with that atomic bomb shirt and the way Namjoon did his hair and dressed, the nazi things, etc.

@@AwakeningWings I know they made other mistakes. I specifically pointed out the part she mentions about their musical influences. Which I disagree with even with Joon’s style. BTS actually loves black culture and respects it and most kpop artists do not even care enough to fully understand black music or embody it faithfully.

​@@AwakeningWings Jimin didn't do anything wrong with that shirt. 1. it was an old snapshot from the back 2. the real problem back than was a SK court ordering a Japanese company to pay for forced wartime labor during Japanese colonial rule in SK 3. SK has more right to celebrate the bomb than the USA to celebrate their Independence Day. Read the "White Paper Project" to see what I mean. Was it good taste? no. Was it as problematic as some people pretended it was? also no, as it was based on SK & JP history. Namjoon was paying a homage to the artists he loved - he did not know that the common narrative in the US these days is "cultural appropiation" (sorry... English is not my first language and IDK how to spell that). Because this is a narrative created by white people who didn't understand the problem when POC asked for respect for their cultural roots. The Nazi thing? pure BS. It was a kind of hat like it is in this style still very popular in the Western world. It is just that someone photoshoped a Nazi symbol on it and it doesn't help that it was black - which is one of the most widespread color for clothes/hats.

but how can bp be sincere about their music when yg doesn't let them write their songs? like how can they express themselves through their music

@@ysabelleortiz4138 do you think even if someone is given freedom of writing, is composing that easy ??? Some sound like if someone was given freedom they will write a masterpiece at once... not that someone can't but is that really that easy? Expressing yourself through writing& instruments when sometimes we can't even do that with words.. what do you think about that ? Just thoughts....

@@kamalhossan5694 creating music with sincerity is not just that, many artists who don't write or compose their music know what they want, what they want to talk about while singing etc.. how do you think members of BTS who never wrote songs started? By giving their ideas and talking about their feelings to those who helped them create their music. Afterwards they wanted to learn to do things themselves (and they were inspired by each other's passions to motivate each other). So BP could do the same if they had the same freedom and if they were very interested.

@@lyna2559 such a nice description... You are right with your point of veiws... Eventually it's PASSION that makes someone real artist... because if we don't have passion now or then we surely gonna suffer.. Wow it reminds me of blackswan 👀

@@kamalhossan5694 oh of course passion is the base, it's what makes you want to learn and never makes you want to give up unless the situation becomes as Black Swan describes it, but it can be reborn. Docskim for example was going to stop making music but Wild Flower made him rediscover his beauty and make him want to do it again.💜

And its crazyyyyy to me!!! Cause if BTS were from my country I wouldn't stop screaming over their artistry, their talents and their achievements!!! It's almost insane to me that Koreans really think that anyone from their *KPOP* industry or *BIG 3* can replace BTS, they think BTS is liked worldwide for their looks, really?! Do they even know the kind of ARTISTS their country own as BTS?!! The pride they should have for owning BTS as their country's could be beyond!!! Its crazyy that those people are not realizing it, BTS became LEGENDS through their MUSIC, moved hearts of millions of people, are loved like crazyy around the world by their devoted fans, It makes me realize that those people are hella brainwashed, stereotyped kpop industry mostly for looks:) What kind of people are they to even assume such thing? Can't they just Cherish and respect what they have!!! They have THE BTS, still they behave like they don't exist, it drives me crazy!!

@@winterbear906 ouch* Not gonna lie, I'm one of those people who thought BTS were only famous because of their good looks and because they have a huge company backing them up Back then they are crazy popular in my country along with EXO, I often hear Love Shot, DNA and IDOL getting played So of course there's no way I wouldn't know BTS and K-pop But here's a thing I'm not fond of K-pop at all But I'm not saying I hate them, I'm just saying it's not my cup of tea Out of curiosity, I watched their MV's And all I can say is: they have crazy visual effects, it was so colorful that the colors doesn't even make sense They have good looks but I don't particularly find them attractive And they have nice catchy music but that's it I just contributed their popularity due to their looks and the insane production Though it's my mistake for thinking that way, but you can't blame me Cause clearly I can see that the girl ARMY's around me are merely obsessed with their visuals and nothing else, they didn't even bother to read the MV's lyrics So what else can I say? Anyways, afterwards years later they release songs like Boy with Luv, Dynamite, Butter, Permission to Dance But their popularity isn't decreasing which I find strange cause back then they weren't even as big as EXO But years later I don't hear much from EXO like their popularity had died down So I gave BTS chances again, hoping to know why they are still popular So I watched their popular MV's again the ones with billions of views Not gonna lie, I'm slightly disappointed Cause all I can see is still the same thing, colorful visuals, catchy music but shallow lyrics The same with Black Pink, cause I don't know how and when they popped up or become popular but anyways BTS songs are still tolerable whenever I hear their songs being played in Public However, for some reason when I hear black pink music play it puts me in a very irritable mood I also watch their MV's to see what's their hype all about but my disappointed is on another level when I watched Black Pink Not because I hate them or anything But I'm just repulsive by they way they are presented For me they just looks like materialistic products being sold by the company Like they are just dolls and puppets And I see no artistry nor any positive vibe in their music They look visually perfect, but seems like in a forced way, their MV'S are also very colorful but more on Pink They have catchy beats, music, and they have crazy production in their MV's But that's just it So that's how I see the KPOP industry in general, very plastic Sorry for the offensive language Like the Kpop industry doesn't even care about their idols, like they are easily disposed of once the fans lost interest in them And the fact that I pity other idols too, cause I know how hard it is to be one The amount of hardwork they put behind the scenes that goes uncredited but also the criticism, fake scandals and harassment they face every single day I can't even imagine living such life which is why I kinda respect these idols but abhor the K-Pop industry The industry don't even pay attention to the music itself, cause most Kpop songs have very shallow lyrics and they focus more on the visuals more than anything They have no artistry And some of the idols are being exploited too because of the contracts Combined those things together Just made me realize that even if I force myself to watch more Kpop I'll never like KPOP So yeah I just gave up, cause the MV's or the songs that I've seen so far isn't just my cup of tea And since BTS is also known as the biggest Kpop act, I assumed they are the same So At that point I completely stopped watching any Kpop related stuff including BTS cause what I've seen so far just solified my assumptions and stereotypes against Kpop music I'm just afraid that if I watch more of any Kpop related content, I'll probably hate them for real And I don't want that cause I don't wanna be a toxic for no proper reason Like I can't even imagine myself hating or bashing a band just because I hate their music Cause if you don't like the music you can just ignore it afterall we have different taste Like why even bother bashing? That's just a complete waste of time,which is why I can't even understand how fan wars even works Back then I've encountered fan wars between EXO fans and BTS fans Including Kpop vs. Anime Such fan wars were too ridiculous Cause first of all how can you even compare anime and Kpop when they are completely different? And the EXO and BTS fan wars is even more funny cause if you like EXO's music then you can just listen to it then ignore BTS But Clearly that didn't happen The fans in both sides are very adamant in depending and attacking other groups Anyways, the comment is way too long so I'll end it here, but lastly I wanna say something though I still don't like K pop, I've completely become a fan of BTS, cause I really love their music and the messages behind it especially their from B-side tracks

Now he releasing documentry on himself as King of kpop lmao

BTS paved the way. April fools! It was God who paved the way.

I am army first and then blink so feel sorry and angry on blackpink because they should have accepted it rather then saying we are paving the way. I agree now Blackpink is more popular because they are doing first world tour but that's numbers of lies put on media that BP are bigger than BTS is completely false. BTS has alot more fan in general rather then views in youtube or instagram. BP is bigger because they have more billion views which is wrong. Views doesn't make BP bigger as compared to BTS. BTS are global artists and superstar with good reason and message. Were BP are good but only for catchy songs and dance rather then having some good messages as BTS. I'm blink but I'm angry that YG is not allowing BP to write their own music or produce it. Make BP look like industrial produced group which sing and dance to other music creator which is fact. Hard to accept but as hurtful it is we should agree it.

@@fazalmahmoodkazi8577 yes i agree they play on the visual aspect of the group not the creativity and talent. and yes BP is having a moments because of the tour and everything but have not seen anything on news stations i mean the Jin military thing was a way bigger event that even non fans knew about. the industry just want to hybe BP because they are trying to promote lisa for her solo debut (i think). also the reason why she won the vmas and ema over both bts and BP. sorry but that is not possible. i know she is popular but not more than the group itself and not over BTS. BTS won every other fan voting awards just not those two who is picking their own winner based on how they are being paid by labels. i actually like some of their music but the whole label and image they have is ruin their reputation and also stopping me from liking them as a group. they could have been more popular ad respected by fans if they had another label. even twice has a better image and are respected by other fandoms. i have not seen hate on them.

@@lealarsen2017 OMG yes the fact she won over Black Pink was very telling but then they were going to give GOTY to BP but all the media jumped the gun and realized most of us would know it was fixed and would protest so gave it to the real winners in VMAs but still gave it to them in EMAs but if you checked at the MAMA global vote BTS lead and the group that came second and closest in votes was Stray Kids, BP was not even 3rd or 4th so yeah it was a total fix but YG could not fix the AMAs

@@cola5473 Should I say more harshly then the reactors only see EDM sound music and gets hyped up but not really see the lyrics at all. I agree that BP lyrics are catchy and are industrial produced and written song given to them. The reactor are doing wrong in this aspect. Some reactor see this and appreciate BTS more which is facts. Exampes reactor LexListens channel she love every kpop including BTS and BP. But the fact that she really appreciate BTS more over any other kpop group. Show the honestly and real talk facts. BP are good only but BTS are good for a reason which include alot of stuff.

@@fazalmahmoodkazi8577 actually it's not even about them accepting the bts paved the way. Even if they said 'We were the only ones who paved the way' I would just roll my eyes and that's it. But my issue is how much their company non chalantly does media play. Its not even little and I can take each case and feel disgusted around the politics they push to make them a brand name. And as much as it is not BP members fault completely, considering how they arent dumb or if the were the wouldn't be brand ambassadors of that many world known companies, they definitely know what their company is doing but pretend to not. This makes me question the members morals. Do I hate BP members, no. But I have grown to be a little skeptical of their genuinity as described by blinks. And that's aside, I kinds yearn to see some passion from them.

Bollywood paved the way.

BTS paved the way. April fools! It was God who paved the way.

@@jameshenrysmith Wrong context.

You talk like other companies don't hire employees. lol

yes and also yourtubers dkdkdv eks..

Te falto decir de los youtubers... ellos tambien se lucran de BTS

kpop industry Most of the fans are women. In your opinion, boy group or girl group, who is more difficult to succeed? Most of the fan base is female . fu*k

yes the Wembley bit really made me laugh as a Brit I've been to both Wembley Arena for small concerts however I've been to Wembley Stadium for the some of the biggest bands in the world including BTS. BP fans trying to tell me they sold out Wembley and I said you mean Wembley Arena yes I know BP were there I was given tickets to go see them there and I pasted them on to a BP fan. BTS sold out Wembley Stadium a completely different venue to Wembley Arena where BP were preformed. Wembley Stadium is were the biggest artist's and groups like Queen and BTS in the world preform not Wembley Arena.

I also came in with the Wondergirls wave, and I can also happily say BTS paved the way! With artists like Big Bang, 2NE1, Psy, Rain, Girls Generation, Wondergirls and so on I think we could say they... opened the door? As in they made the very first steps into the international market, and brought in a small niche international audience (like me), some of whom eventually became the first ARMYs. But then those same companies immediately closed the door in BTS' face, even actively sabotaging them! BTS had to push that door back open, and once they were through they proceeded to forge a new path through uncharted territory on the other side. Every achievement they made, they were the first Koreans to do it. That's the definition of paving the way!

@@shockofthenew yesss! Totally agree with you!

*her opinion. cuz the facts i wrote say otherwise

Les diste donde mas les duele a las fans de BLACKPINK...xd

Completely agree oh and BP have never had a 'Stadium Tour' only an 'Arena Tour.' They tried to pretend they had a Stadium Tour saying they were at a stadium in the US which only had Stadium as part of the title but was only 'Arena capacity'. Stadium's even the smallest must be able to seat at least 40,000. Oh and BP fans tried to tell me BP had a concert at Wembley Stadium no dears it was Wembly Arena BP had a concert at.

the sad thing is that... some toxic blinks posted one of her vids on twt... then some of them got mad to point that they exposed boracity real pic on twt and made fun of her to the point that she went private..

@@ysabelleortiz4138 when?

Bollywood paved the way.

BTS paved the way. April fools! It was God who paved the way.

I was thinking when they debuted they look just like some of the younger Rappers at the same time in the UK it was just fashion.

Bollywood paved the way lol.

BTS paved the way. April fools! It was God who paved the way.

I agree. I like a lot of BP old songs. I mean they are catchy and the lyrics were pretty good back then. I tried to give their latest album a chance but when i read the lyrics, it's just full of random lyrics that rhyme. And also i've watched quite a lot of their interviews before and i feel like they don't know how to explain their own music. At least if they can't write their own song then understand it like it's their own song. I'll keep giving them a chance though in the future hoping they will make me feel that they really love music more than their brand modelling career. No hate just facts.

I learned so much watching BTS press conferences,interviews and other videos explaining their art. They are so knowledgeable about everything. Their answers are always articulated. They are just really genius. One of the reasons they are legends. What i think is ridiculous is that people compare them and blackpink. Just by what i mentioned you can see how opposite they are. Blackpink are nowhere close to BTS. In every aspect that's how it is. I've seen blackpink interviews and they are so awkward and loss for words when they are asked about music and their involvement in everything like that. Most interviews they do are not serious since they can't answer those questions. Just general knowledge they don't have. For example watch the Zac zang interview. They can answer questions about everything except music. This fact alone is why it's funny to me when people try to associate them with BTS.

@@lakshi9276 Clout by association. And YES! Zach Zang's show is meant for DEEP TALK into MUSIC. I feel they/the company were so desperate to follow the paths of BTS and to gain legitimacy that they CHOSE to send the girls to attend a "music" discussion radio show, while COMPLETELY NOT prepared to discuss it! Not even this time around, but the last time they went, when asked what's their process, they answered sitting around Teddy and wait for him? (don't quote me, not verbatim). They have more English speaking members than BTS, and while even w/ RM, there might be a bit of language barrier still (don't come at me, he's very good already, but not native, and you can tell when he speaks Korean, it is on another level, but he holds his own in English well enough already), the girls that SHOULD be able to convey sentiments in English much better, actually can't, unfortunately. I mean, it's OK if you didn't involve in the song as much, but come-on, at least come PREPARED. At the minimum, the COMPANY should prep them w/ proper talking points, but like you said, they seem caught off guard and not knowing how to answer things, and in the midst of it all, it actually made them appear worse off than if they didn't go on the show at all. That's why disappointed. You can see BTS members, behind the scenes, even if the answer is very basic or text book during those red carpet press junkets, they already have a language barrier, but you see how hard they WORK at it, to be able to contribute and engage. The unpreparedness of the girlies when they have less of a language barrier, just ended in a big contrast in comparison. And no, didn't mean to compare, but come on, the company literally sent them on the SAME SHOWS, they've set them up FOR comparison... Ugh... It's like, if you can't do it well, don't even bother doing it at all, b/c now you increased your chances of fumbling instead of just avoiding it to begin with. Ah, forgot to mention... During the whole promo of their latest album, from the posters and posters LISTING the song credits of Teddy and all... I felt it was a very obvious attempt to try to gain relevance from the girls. It's almost like Teddy is desperate to have western validation (and he's from HERE, so I get it), and right now it's the easiest to ride it w/ BP, their creation, but the attempt just felt too try-hard... made me cringe. Sorry. So back to the "jealousy" part... I think indeed there is that sentiment, esp. the musicians that are FROM the US, and had to go back to Asia, in this case, Korean (in the 90/00s, there is also a Mandarin singer Coco Lee, made it big in Taiwan/Hong Kong, attempted to do it in the US, but failed, it's a long time struggle for Asian American musicians, and gotten better in recent years, you see like Amber and Eric Nam doing well back in the US, which a decade ago it would have been harder)... Those from the US ultimately wish to make it big back in the US where they grew up, but then it's the "foreigners" like BTS that has no ties in the US, unlike them, that made it mainstream in the US. That "it should have been me" feeling must be hard to deal with... Sorry, the last bit... it's my own speculation and feelings imaging how it'd feel... Maybe I shouldn't have said it b/c it's making assumptions and I don't know those people nor have they said much in that aspect. But being Asian American and have seen how pop culture have evolved since the 80s, 90s, 00, and now (yes, I'm OLD, I've been thru the old J-Pop says, Mando-pop, and now Kpop phases, each generation has its own unique road and I see the cultural/social aspects of it all, very interesting, like seeing how history unfolds), I couldn't help but feel that disappointment where they can't make it in their "new country" (and some are BORN here, they are "American" technically) and had to go back to Asia that's foreign for them to make it, but still cannot make it back in the US where they grew up and was influenced by the music in the US during those times. Not just musicians, but some actors as well. It's a very interesting dynamic I think. I never thought I'd think so much info all these social aspects just from seeing BTS's journey! Ha! (OMG, I wrote a lot again, huh? haha... it's my coping mechanism, to word vomit.)

@@misslouie6742 Yes! Even if they didn't contribute much of their discography, at least they should UNDERSTAND it and PREPARED to be able to TALK about it during interviews, and worse, it's an interview that mostly talks ABOUT MUSIC! I just couldn't believe how unprepared they are. I mean, no offense, but even if you don't know shit, it's fine, at least the company should PREPARE what you should say properly? But the key thing they made sure the girls do say is that THEY paved the way. SMH/RME/OMG... Ugh... Like I said, I really wish everyone DO WELL, I want the girls to do well. They all worked hard in their own way. But when the result is like this, for the TOP kpop girl group, the lack of effort from both their companies (and them maybe, like prepare a little yourself or ask the company to help you prepare, can't you? fine, I don't know their inner workings, just feels odd) made it even more disappointing. It's like, whatever they end up saying on these talk shows, the "feeling" after having heard it, might be worse than if they didn't go and didn't talk at all. If you GO do these PR junkets, the point is to make viewers/listeners LIKE YOU MORE, that's PROMO! But it actually made it worse?!?!?! Like if you didn't go, that's just that, no plus, no minus. But if you went and show me how unprepared you were, it made the impression worse. What kind of marketing play is this? Argh! Dunno, why am I so upset? Maybe just seeing the incompetence (be it the marketing or PR people) unfold in front of my eyes, and in turns is a bad look on the girls as they're the FACE of their "music."

@@mollyfurball YES! They wanted to follow that path. Get into a show like that. I don't know why Lisa went there a second time too and it was the same as before. She talked about random things but not music. It's kind of embarrassing to watch that. Their company know they are not involved enough to answer that kind of questions.But they still send them. Yes you're right. They said something like they sit in a corner in a sofa while Teddy make everything. RM have struggles sometimes explaining in English. I think because he doesn't use it all the time. He has to like flip a switch every time they do international promotions. It's very hard and those two languages are very different. Also i feel like there's so much thoughts going on in his mind and he can't process it fast enough to translate it to English.( It's something i felt seeing him) In Korean he's the best. In English he has some troubles. I prefer him answering in Korean. But still even in English it shows how much he knows. Yes bp look lazy when they could've prepared for it. They obviously know what the show is about. I don't want to mention but BTS always study and prepare things in every language when they go to other countries. Yes. About the jealousy part like the video said comes from ego. Especially from bigger companies. Thanks for the information. I watched Eric nam Zac zang interview he talked about Asian inclusion. In my opinion though i think if you have talent, hardwork and good music etc they can get big no matter where they are from. If we see where BTS were years ago we couldn't believe they'll be this big. They have so many layers to their everything. Music and as people. No wonder they are successful. They have that kind of presence. BTS are strong in so many areas. Not everyone has that. There's not many artists in history have that presence. It's not always artists like that are born. ( it sounds like I'm exaggerating but I'm not. After seeing all those layers of BTS it's very clear how great they are )

And a lot of ARMYs do listen to other artists... But most of us don't feel the connection or the deep message in them so we remain casual listeners and don't turn into fans.

i kinda agree cuz bts is the first bg in bighit right? then when they introduced txt bts said " check out/stay tuned to our little brothers" and i did... i tuned into txt debut...then bts appeared in island show so i checked out enhypen... and other groups from hybe i also checked them out cuz they are under the hybe labels aka the company that bts built.... in conclusion i checked out other groups cuz of bts

Yes, we do listen to pop artist music.but why are you guys always on our neck to be fans of other kpop group if we like it, we will do it.

@@ysabelleortiz4138 por fin alguien que entiende que escuchamos a otros grupos debido a BTS . Las fans de txt niegan eso, los otros grupos son talentoso y trabajadores, pero gran parte de su popularidad se debe a BTS.