Jimmy Carter was the embodiment of a president who was also a man of faith. But he’s held as an example of “weakness” while all of Trump’s obvious moral failings are ignored because he’s “honest”.

I walked away from churches after my mom's death because they were the cause of my mom's death. And then when my Ukrainian cousin came to United States evangelist was sitting next to her she was only 14 years old lost her mom and dad and the Evangelist when he found out she was Ukrainian called her a Nazi and to repent. She asked him are you Christian he said yes. She says we do not have Christians like you and Ukraine. For we love Jesus and love others as our neighbor. We believe in our faith. She told him he is not Christian for his to have love not hate or to be judgmental. She is now living in Canada. She says she does not want to live in United States with Christians like this with this thinking of hating others.

I am a Christian but I recognise nothing of Christ of the Gospels in any US Christian Fundamentalists.

That's the problem. Most people do "love others as they love themselves". An awful lot of people subconsciously hate themselves, and project it on others.

Kristin Du Mez...... I LOVE YOU!!!! I am a Black pastor and I have been saying many of the same things you are speaking about for So Many years now! When you speak, I feel as if somebody heard ME! Thank you for you deep extensive study and honest exposure of what's been at the root of American Christianity for so long. Thank God for you and your intelligence and diligence on this subject. Thank you for Standing UP!

Blessings. A preacher, author, editor, and licensed physician said this way back when: "The work of the Gospel is to make peace between men and God, and wherever a heart surrenders to God the *spirit of militarism and nationalism must go"* (November 26, 1896, PTUK).

I was baptized by an evangelical church and don't broadcast that event. I have come to know that the clergy in that denomination is more about the easy money, tax exemptions and empire building than sticking to truth. Those people have no conscience.

Why is it that when the issue of rascism comes up and a somewhat civil conversation is to be had, blacks are asked to explain it; give their deep thoughts on it; give answers to possibly remedy it... this burden is on blacks and not on the perpetrators.

Thank You Kristin! As a child I attended church on a regular basis until graduating fm High school, then sporadically until retiring about 15 yrs ago. About the time i contemplated becoming a member of a local Baptist church Obama became President. For the most part, the atmosphere seemed quite normal and run of the mill - no females in the clergy or offices, women did the grunt work - cleaning, preparing meals and snacks, etc. Not exactly my ideal, but when in Rome… When Obama became Pres - all bets were off. Snide comments about Obama and his Presidency, railing against Democrats and their unGodly policies were coming from the pulpit. I was asked directly, “How can you be a Dem and call yourself a Christian?”. Mind you I got no blow back from writing a weekly check for the offering, but weirdly ostracized to a diff Sunday School Class and told (not asked) that weekly Bible School classes would be held at my house. Fortunately, I had to fly to the Coast for a bit and upon returning, terminated my relationship with that pastor and his establishment. What i experienced at that Church was nothing like my youth. Instead of the msg of love and kindness as in “love thy neighbor as thy self, it was accusatory, judgmental, and worst of all political! So my lesson from this experience has been - I will never set foot in or support an institution championing a right wing populist agenda masking as a church!

The Deutsche Christen movement in Nazi Germany also promoted the idea that Jesus was sort of a rugged, man's man. It's not new.

Just bought the book! Grew up surrounded by Evangelicals but in West Africa where I still live. This is a very insightful discussion. Thank you much for raising awareness. Christ followers around the world are floored by the Evangelical support for Trump. May God help us and bring us back to centre.

What does White Evangelicalism have to do with Christ?

They chose baal instead of Christ

The first sentence in this video needs flushed out a little. Claiming that “As a Christian I think that truth is important.” Do you really think that because you’re a Christian, truth is important. The truth doesn’t care if you’re a Christian. The irony burns. As a Christian you must have faith, which is believing or accepting something without evidence.

I thought America is just still like Salem MA in the 1700's. The witch burning is just sneakier.

God is no respecter of persons. He doesn't hold one race or culture higher or lower like mankind does. To blame one race, one culture, for the troubles of the world is what has been repeated throughout man's history. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Man cannot save himself; Acts 4:12 says about Jesus, "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name given under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved."

Years ago, on CSPAN, I saw a conversation between Al Sharpton and a Republican political strategist (or something)...at some point Sharpton said something like 'god said, (insert bible verse)'...I can't remember the verse but it was something about _caring for the needy_ or _it's hard for a rich man to enter heaven_ I just remember it was some quote/verse related to money/wealth...and how that [money/material things] shouldn't be a Christian's priority. Like I said, Al started the comment with 'god said...' The Republican's immediate reply was: "Not my god." When I heard it it always made me wonder what do Conservative Christians really believe...

The short answer is that we became as Romans pursuing the business of empire, it's just that we didn't notice.....'>.....

Evangelicals say they are obeying the word of God and following the example of Jesus. I beg to differ, if Jesus were alive today they'd call him a p****, a commie, an emasculated liberal. There is no way they'd allow him to go into their churches or preach to them. Trump is what they want, a white man who believes women are subservient to men, anyone who follows a different faith is bad and can't be trusted, you crush your enemies. He got into the White House by hating the same people they hate. It was so open, so brazen, they said that he says the things they think but can't say, he is "honest" because he has no filter. In reality, all he did was make it OK to openly be racist and sexist and homophobic. They've given up the pretense, what we see now is who they really are.

The evangelicals in question have been consistently inconsistent in their approach to Christianity. They have always molded their biblical beliefs to make them palatable for themselves and their goals. An example of this is the way they have presented the image of Jesus as someone who is a physical representation of themselves, which is idolatry as well. Another example would be that they didn’t respect territorial boundaries that were already established. That is expressly prohibited per the Bible. Man stealing is prohibited as well. Western Christianity is a perverse interpretation of the Bible that has always been utilized to conquer and subdue other peoples to steal land and resources.

It really is noteworthy that fundamental differences in theological interpretations between Evangelical sects aren't necessarily enough to make enemies of others within the overall Evangelical community, but different social/political/economic philosophical orientations are. Not to mention the fact that the social/political/economic stands they take further alienate them from the very people that Jesus, the author of their faith, commissioned them to reach out to.

I don't even like the word Christian anymore. The company I keep now is much kinder and these people are habitually honest for a pleasant change. AA meetings helped me see how being brutally honesty with yourself can get rid of all skeletons and imaginary ghosts if you continue making strides towards living and staying sober. Making many meetings with totally different people having a turn to speak or pass on the group's chosen topic helped me a decade ago. Your HIGHER power turns out to be your inner sober adult you had kept in your trunk stoned, drunk and lied to.

I’ve listened a fair amount to Ms DuMez and largely agree with her thesis that there is, probably always has been, racial segregation within any phase of the evangelical movement, and that certainly within the last several years, there has been some political synthesis between power-hungry evangelical leaders (I.e., the mega church televangelists) and secular nationalists who seek to dominate American society on some caste system of their own arbitrary convenience. That said, having heard arguments by neoconservatives about how blacks in general are to blame for gang violence, and Muslims in general are responsible for stateless Islamic terrorism (why don’t they police their own communities?!?!) and the responses to those arguments (each individual is an individual, not required or even able to police the nefarious activities of some small segment of their population), I struggle with the headline of this video essentially blaming the entire evangelical community for corrupting a faith. Sure, there are churches, maybe even a lot of them, who gave into their base instincts toward selfish rationalizations and became short-sighted about acquiring political power through ungodly means, and possibly for ungodly purposes; but there are also evangelical congregations that stayed true to a modest, sincere belief structure; those congregations should not be belittled for the actions of others.

One can build a social justice movement around the energy of hate. This is easily understood and there's nothing particularly new about it. What Jesus does is build a social justice movement around the energy of love (Galatians 5:6), love for God, neighbor, and even enemy.

Thanks you lord Jesus christ Master for using her to reveal what is going on and it is so much more.

I think Kristin s book is very accurate. However if I were to use it as a mirror for my own family they,would immediately put their heads in the sand.

What are the definitions of "evangelical" from the different eras of history?

The white promo in Evangelicalism bit lends some sort of possible explanation to something that has puzzled me since my misspent youth. In Corpus Christi, TX in the early '80s there was a rescue mission with a Mexican-American preacher who at one point in a sermon went on about how God liked and the Devil hated blonde hair and blue eyes. When this preacher was Mexican-American with Aztec physical features. It kind of creeped me out that he seemed to regard me in a more positive light simply because I had yellow-blonde hair at the time and blue to blue-green eyes. And there I was a 21 year old homeless guy sowing my wild oats in the worst ways possible.

Behold the leaven of not the Pharisees but the leaven of the Samaritan…. Racism and white evangelicals go hand in hand…. Has nothing to do with Christianity or some low T Jesus

You can't fool God,them kind of people ain't no Christian in the first place that's why things are like this. Your sins and who you are will always come to the light

I will Watch this later & save me time to READ the book .

Great conversation... Very accurate in my life experience. Hypocrites and the less than meek.

Christianity is a Pagan religion. Their doctrine is of the Roman Catholic church not the doctrine of Jesus Christ in the Bible.

I'd like to point out that there is a difference between Christian conservatives and pseudo-Christian cultists.

"Don’t stay somewhere to try and fix it." Excellent advice

Thawada (Thank you).

Excellent discussion on an incredibly important subject. Thank you for putting this out here!

"Jesus was crucified by a coalition of political-religious conservatives (the Pharisees) and political-religious liberals (the Sadducees), working through the secular government (the Roman Empire). All political parties and systems are a mixed bag of good and evil principles, whereas the kingdom of Christ is composed only of good principles that arise out of God’s indiscriminate love for all people. As a follower of Jesus, therefore, I cannot be loyal to any one political party, but rather must affirm true principles wherever they may be found regardless of political party. I must subscribe to the good principles that are present on the conservative end of the spectrum and to the good principles that are on the liberal end of the spectrum. And that makes me a political freak, or at least a political anomaly, in a world of frenzied political hate." End Quote. [I did not originate these thoughts, nor does anyone actually have any good thoughts. For all GOOD thoughts originate from God in Christ Jesus].

Contempt dripping from Progressive pores.

I went to Calvin and there was a strain of Amway / Reaganism there in the mid 1980s. I can remember coming across a Conservative Digest article in college and thinking that they had little power and influence. Then, I was in Georgia during the Gingrich years in the 1990s. I saw how deluded the North Fulton / East Cobb hedonism was with a Christian facade. For such nice looking communities to drive through (all creature comforts imaginable), the sense of privilege and strong personalities were hard to ignore. I started to worry. None of that compared to this recent toxic strain that evolved from early Fox "News" to Trumpism, years of reinforcement of false narratives, Machiavellian strategies, and the re-victimization of victims. That is, hated of the poor and minorities. If you are not "successful", then you are weak. The Amway / Reaganism system on steroids in a social media age. It's all about power, collective narcissism, and flag worship with the co-opting of Christian belief. They are manipulating willing codependents.

@7:35, God sometimes chooses, God has to choose, God doesn't have no choice to choose imperfect beings." That's blasphemy what this guy said. Saying God has no choice is like saying God is not in control. God can change any person and any heart if He so chooses to.

People are being led in the wrong direction.

Its not cause true faith doesnt lead to "hero" worship.

"Protect thy brand". Is that gospel of Matthew or Luke?

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Evangelical Christianity is not Christianity but a cult following. Sorry

Psalms 147:19-20 [19]He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. [20]He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

If everyone religion believes that they alone are right ( they all claim to have the recorded word of God or have wisdom that is divinely inspired) ..who is to judge who is correct ?

I think 🤔 it’s rather telling that this White panel of scholars appropriate the word Macho and use it as a Pejorative without understanding the meaning or the culture. Machismo/Marianismo are a duality. Machismo is the masculine, Marianismo the feminine. You can’t have one with out the other. The dynamics don’t apply to white males, or white females in the Christian church. White people in the Christian church are not more sexist then racist. They are white supremest and you have a different patristical structure based in race, Genocide and slavery. Machismo in the Latin tradition has to do with Males doing back breaking labor. And the female taking care of house hold. This is a choice. As a women you don’t have to participate. You can be un wed and have to provide for your self. And these discussion about toxic masculinity are white liberal women lying and putting all the blame for racism sorely on the white man and other men of other ethnic backgrounds. No! White women in America like to play the victim. They are beneficiaries of White supremacy. In America White feminism isn’t about white women’s freedom it’s a fight over who holds the whip of white supremacy.

If you are a Christian, then read the bible, grapple with what it says - for it does not fit neatly into modern political idealogies - and any party that claims to own it is using religion for its own aims. Recognize the tree by the fruit it produces. If it possesses none of the fruits of the Spirit (charity, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, generosity, gentleness, faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity), it is not of the Spirit.

Does Christianity tell you to ignore the Constitution ? As a Catholic and a Christian I don't believe in forcing God to people who don't believe . God made us to believe in our own choices and not by others . If you can't know by now between good and bad or make choices by listening to others then you need to give up your faith . It is only false .

Read "Sex, Power, and Partisanship" by Garcia to really understand the evolutionary biological roots of the authoritarian white Christian nationalists Du Mez's book describes. Garcia's books is one of the most important I've ever read.

Not a part of a protestant christian faith - however, White Christian Nationalism was the final straw. Now I am a happy athiest.

Church and State (are supposed to) are to stay separate. All those faithful patriots forget it's explicitly stated to be so. I thought Mr. Jesus was a peaceful and inclusive fellow that followed the law and observances of Judaism who had a message for the masses of his time. Admittedly I don't know much about His message but I've never heard anything about voting for a specific president, congressman, senator or local council member, in it. It seems antithetical to his over all mind frame to be voting for shady people who get a pass on being moral for being "blue" or "red" if it furthers the dissemination of His message. I also thought the only "hero" Christians have is Jesus. This interpretation of His message is very hypocritical and confusing to a guy like me whom has a limited understanding of it. I'll have to read what dude said. Maybe I'm missing something. Just saying

It is too bad more emphasis in our culture is not made about the distinction between (U. S.) evangelical and mainstream churches. I’m not sure about Catholic churches, but many Protestant main-stream churches offer a good alternative to evangelical churches. They have not had the razzle dazzle of evangelical TV ministers, and their attendance has waned in recent years, but they are much stronger in traditional Christian doctrine and are usually not subject to the John Wayne phenomenon.

It prospered from a human view point by roman synchronization which murdered it's spirit not THE SPIRIT

Evangelicals are not Christians. Christians believe in the prophets; peace be upon them. Evangelicals believe in the profit$ and how to get a piece of them.

Only in America would you see a bumper sticker reading "God, Guns, and Guts" displayed as a statement of faith. The "Christian" right twists the words of Christ beyond all recognition, when it mentions them at all. Jesus still weeps.

very nice!

Can I talk privately to the moderator? I have to share a video clip.

Kristin would be so much happier in Sierra Leone or Port au Prince...

Yeah her book title is exactly correct. But Nothing will change in America or the Church.

It's being taught wrong and having the misunderstanding of what it is

Evangelicals have Cyrus as an example. Cyrus wasn’t a Jew, but he acted in their favor. Trump isn’t a Christian, but they see him as promoting Christianity… and he did as payback. The “God’s right view” aspect is probably even more important in understanding evangelicals supporting Trump, especially the Christian nationalist aspect, according to the data is

John C Russell......The Germanization of early medieval Christianity ....is a must read for these folks. This is not the first time that Christian faith has been captured by an aggressive hierarchical male culture.

EVANGELICALISM has changed meaning three times, as for todays isn't true Christianity. Evangelical is religion at best but not true christianity. Test it against the Bible( KJV ). Soma are in Christ, but more are about works. Politics today is ying yang, tree of good and evil not tree of life. So can religion be the same, Christainity is tree of life. Where did Jesus get into politics, or Paul, etc? We are in the world( system) but not of it.

Why don’t we see that love & good fellowship are the delights of heaven, while hostility & hatred are the torments of hell?

Four guests, all the same point of view. This wasn't a conversation.

Masculinity ? lol It takes Trump longer to do his hair and make up than it takes his wife.

Christianity is full of falsehoods etc. but add to that the absurd claims and outright nonsense coming from the evangelical crazies and we have a very dire and dangerous situation in the US. People need to read this book - it’s a must read. We need to thank the author for researching ( which is extensive and eye opening) and writing it.

How do you corrupt something that was created as a corruption tool exclusively for corruption purposes?

God is opening eyes and open the spirit and revealing himself or what's going on and not just the church but what's going on in the hard the Mind and Spirit what's going on with humanity and where we have fallen short of our relationship and our baby ants and commitment to Christ and where we have became fleshly and where we have became disobedient and like the scripture says did it by own ways instead of following the obedient ways of the Lord and instructions of his word and being knowing the voice of God God submitting to the will of God knowing that if we surrender entirely to God and know that God is the one in control and stop being according to the fleshly desires Like It said In Timothy first John chapter two do not love the world at anything got the world cuz in the world is the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life God never called us to be religious but have a relationship if you go to Amos 5:21 it says God hates religion and your festivals have become a stench to him because you do it for your own benefit in your own desires it ain't to please God it honor God is for your own purpose and he knows the heart and motives of a man because if you go to Hebrews chapter 4 he said God knows the intentions he knows the spirits are sold the being of a man because before we were created before we was placed in the mother's womb he knew was in Star Wars he needed us together when I prefer for when I mothers and fathers came together he placed it in the womb and he knew what we was going to be a man a woman before we came into the room so God knows everything and he know where the spirit before we even came into the room but we need a fleshly body right when we died the flesh going back to the ground and then we're going to be resurrected by the spirit like Jesus was

Seperation of church state part of the constitution fundamental blockstone of our constitution.....

I can almost guarantee that of all the allurements that Christian Nationalism and evangelical Christian proselytizing provides, objective critical thinking is NOT one of them. "Magical imaginings" NOT thinking prevails.

9:25 going from an educated, truly christian man in the Whitehouse, to Trump... Truly christian? As a christian myself, I find neither president meets my definition of "truly christian", though for different reasons. One doesn't even need to be a religious person to find both presidents completely undesirable. Thomas Sowell, noted economist, non-religious as far as I know, considers Obama and Trump the two worst presidents since WW2, if not since WW1. And for different reasons, of course.

Written in January of 1888, AMS: "We also view with grave apprehension the corruption of our politics, and the immorality not only of those who are exalted to high places in the nation, but of the nation itself; but we know that politics cannot be purified nor immorality checked by legal enactment. There is only one remedy for immorality and corruption, and that is the gospel of Jesus Christ."

handsome black man doesnt get to say anything for 30min wtf

I find it awfully odd that we want to talk about being honest but not address how the bible openly promotes slavery, genocide, misogyny, homophobia, and incest.. Ignore the elephant in the room. Corruptions they are not. Evangelicals are taking the bible literally.

20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. 1 Peter 1:20-25

Preach the gospel to all nations is the command and it was Preached by gospel servants America africa asia and australia Benefited from it Obviously there were abuses against the natives by other elements not Of the church!

*Don’t stand for Slavery, like bible does* In Galatians 3:28, Paul starts by implying that there is no distinction under Jesus between free people and slaves, men and women, etc, but the passage continues into chapter 4, where Paul minimizes the suffering of slaves by saying child heirs are just like slaves, and by 4:24 he is saying that birth into slavery is part of the covenant of Mt Sinai. In Galatians 4:28-31, Paul endorses *not* treating slaves well and makes the slaves metaphorically ungodly; a separate, destitute class (which contradicts his earlier child-heirs-are-slaves claim). 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 “Were you a slave when you were called? ... each person should remain in the situation they were in when they were called.” ... and *God assigned slavery to them (v **7:17**)* Philemon 1:9 and 13, Paul uses slavery as a metaphor for adherence to Jesus. In this passage, Paul implicitly upholds the institution of slavery, even tho Paul expresses a wish that a specific slave, Onesimus, could be free. Paul never mentions Onesimus’ wishes. So whatever Paul meant by loving Onesimus, it did not include putting Onesimus’ freedom above Philemon’s “property rights” to Onesimus. Colossians 4:1 again compares slavery to a relationship with god, even as it tells slave masters to treat their slaves “justly and fairly”... thus confirming their rights to own humans. It also means that the author thought slavery could be just and fair. Matthew 24:45-51 is pro-slavery. It is an analogy between a slave master and god/Jesus as judges over the slaves. The slave master is righteous and has the authority to judge the fate of the slave. The bad slave is first bad because he doesn’t fear the return of the master (Jesus). So Matthew is saying approvingly that Jesus is like a slave master and _vice versa._ Luke 12:37-48 Likens Jesus-Christian relationship to master-servant and *approvingly mentions beating servants.* Ephesians 6:5-9 instructs servants to obey and treat their masters as they would Christ and the masters to treat slaves “well”, an oxymoron, again presenting the master-slave relationship as something holy. 1 Timothy 6:1 It would be *blasphemy* (“so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered”) for slaves *not* to count their masters as worthy of all honor/wealth. Timothy is saying *Christian teaching requires slaves to honor their masters.* He is also saying that not honoring a master is a slander to god’s name, which required death by stoning per Leviticus 24:16 and was one of the Ten Commandments. *Timothy is saying that slavery is a necessary part of basic morality.* (End Slavery is holy) John 8:35 a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. Bible: How slaves should behave and masters should treat them: Galatians 4:30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” (Genesis 21:30) 1 Peter 2:18 servants (oiketai) should submit even to unreasonable masters. There is no command here to not be a master, let alone an unreasonable one. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. So righteousness, even moral perfection includes permission to own slaves, according to Christian scripture 😢

Faith is ignoring truth I favor of what you believe...so you cannot have faith AND value truth.

Daniel 4:17 (KJV) This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. Jeremiah 27:5-11 (KJV) 5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that [are] upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me. 6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him. 7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him. 8 And it shall come to pass, [that] the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand. 9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon: 10 For they prophesy a lie unto you, to remove you far from your land; and that I should drive you out, and ye should perish. 11 But the nations that bring their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, and serve him, those will I let remain still in their own land, saith the LORD; and they shall till it, and dwell therein.

@Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46 Jacob's Descendants Jesus's Kinsmen

This is laughable

Truth and Christianity are pretty much mutally exclusive . . . .

Is Christian Nationalism really Aryanism?

Had the faith not been corrupted long ago and at multiple times throughout its history? I guess evangelicals left their mark of corruption as well but to blame them for the corruption of Christianity is at best disingenuous.

Be patient please. She's onto truth. She is on her way to understanding that Christianity is pure mythology. I love what she is doing and I support her. It's like watching a child come to understand there is no Santa 🙂

If you support Trump than their is no way you are following Jesus they are totally different

He shares a History, seldom heard, of the 1st encounters in North Eastern Turtle Island. They have OVER 200 YEARS of Recorde PRE-REVOLUTIONARY History, held in a variety of forms & w/ a variety of Nations up to the Continental Congress. Bear in mind, the original Colonists wer Feudal Monarchists! The Haudenosaunnee, who WERE A FORCE, at that time, have kept this History 4 us! We had a #TrueDemocracy in a Matriarchal, LIFE ORIENTED CULTURE. We need a #ValueChange4Survival! There ARE other, harmonious, ethical, & truly spiritual cultures! The USA has proven Advanced Tech DOES NOT create an ADVANCED SOCIETY! #ToxicColonizerCULTURE & #ChristianHYPOCRISY!

They don't want to hear this.

There is no supernatural. There are no gods, no demons, no angels, no virgin births, no resurrections from the dead, no e.s.p, no ghosts, no fairies, no witches, no 'enlightened ones', no reincarnations, no miracles, no goddesses, no 'holy' books, no 'holy' cities, no windigos, no 'god's providence', no evil spirits, etc., etc. etc...

Christ Crucified for your sin is the only way to God. You must be born again. Salvation is not a human decision or accomplishment. Salvation is the choice of God. This is absolutely ridiculous. The Church is not an organization. The Church are to he elect of God. There will always be false teachers and false believers until the end.

Isaac's Oldest Son is the Sasquatch People , ask the Native Americans ( I did )

The first commandment: You shall worship the LORD your GOD with all your heart, soul, mind and body. You break the first commandment. You have broken all the Commandments!? This is the most important commandment. The first commandment. To all you churches, camps and preachers. Separation from the first Commandment is seperation from the LORD GOD. That only leads you to death and the separation from God. Thats hell.

I like your Christ but not your Christianity - Mahatma Gandhi. He must have been talking to an Evangelical.

The book is Isrealites history not Esau! This book is not even for or about y’all

In Christ's eyes, you either are a christian or you are not. Man began to place adjectives before the word Christian. Christ did not do that, nor would He. In other words we must ask ourselves if Christ alone is sufficient for us.

Good, scholarly discussion, but no solution.