KTM 1290 Super Duke R v Ducati Streetfighter V4S | Which is Best?
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Күн бұрынKTM 1290 Super Duke R v Ducati Streetfighter V4S | Which is Best? Back in the summer I was lucky enough to ride both the KTM 1290 Superduke R and the Ducati V4S Streetfighter back to back and compare them directly - in this video I tell you which I think is best based on my comparison.....do you agree with my findings??
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@christophereaves7108 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree on the instruments. Ducati not having a fuel gauge in 2020 is just unforgivable
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
still better than a shitty kawa, ktm, honda or suzuki
@christophereaves7108 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 if you say so. If you own a ducati you better be a good mechanic
@999silverhk 3 жыл бұрын
Really? No even know about that 😱😱😱😱😱😱 no f.g. In 2010 not acceptable too😗😗😗🤙🤙🤙
@Throttle-Therapy 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophereaves7108 I am unsure what your direct experience with a Ducati is… but I purchased a 2018 Multistrada 1260S (over KTM, BMW, etc.) and have over 15k miles with No problems. Which is better than the Honda it replaced.
@colberki 2 жыл бұрын
It’s to help owners of the bike with range anxiety.
@giovanniricci4369 3 жыл бұрын
This time I’ve got to disagree, I’m from Italy and maybe not so sensible to that “something about Ducati” but having tested both I confess the one that really mesmerised me was the KTM. Engine, flickability and overall the fun factor. Cheers!
@korningheneral6292 2 жыл бұрын
yeah beybe
@davidherringgo Жыл бұрын
Oh ya me too KTM GRIN MACHINE
@LuckyLuke_81 Жыл бұрын
And KTM has cruise control, really handy on longer trips ;)
@bytesandbikes 3 жыл бұрын
The Ducati claim that they can't get a sensor sounds like a total cop-out, and not really an acceptable one at the prices they ask.
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
still better than all other hyper nakeds
@LambChopRides 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Andy, but hoonage award goes to the SD for sure! SF is far to controlled by its electronics, it doesn't even wheelie without turning everything off. SD let's you have some fun 😎
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
You damned hooligan chopsie, it's tear away nere-do-wells like you that give bikers a bad name!!! Wheelies indeed, I dunno......
@fyorbane 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take the ZH2 over the SD chops. Knox did a back to back performance test [acceleration, roll on in all gears etc] and the Kawi won nearly every test. And that supercharger sounds sweet. New se version has latest skyhook suspension [smoother more controlled ride on the road] and has stylema calipers with braided hoses and Brembo master cylinder.
@bradleyalexander5821 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy, can’t you block some of the riff-raff off your video comments? .......LOL 👍🏼
@colinmcfarlane2042 2 жыл бұрын
@@fyorbane The ZH2 drinks fuel with the supercharger though. My previous bike was the H2 SX SE+, so I've experienced owning a bike with that engine & now have the KTM which is a far better machine to live with daily.
@fyorbane 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinmcfarlane2042 Depends on what you want. I say for reliability I would go with the kawi. The kawi H2 SX makes for a better long distance bike and it sounds cooler with that supercharger whistle.
@finemanm 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s my question, because of the price difference, the KTM in the States is about $18,500 and the Streetfighter V4S is about $24,000... would a more fair, dollar for dollar comparison be the standard Streetfighter that runs just under $20,000 and doesn’t have the semi-automatic Ohlns suspension? Perhaps the KTM might beat out the Ducati in that more equivalent comparison?
@chrisvantassel8867 Жыл бұрын
This is an older vid before the Evo came out for the KTM. Now apples to apples since the EVO has the semi-auto suspension that would be a more reasonable comp. That being said, the Evo is $19,500 so still much cheaper than the V4S with better tech and more features which is why I bought the EVO. I personally thought it was a better bike anyway.
@darrenbutler9261 3 жыл бұрын
I tested both bikes last year and bought the Ktm . The Ducati is a lovely bike but what most reviews don't mention is its appalling fuel range ,which when ridden hard gave 67 miles from a full tank ( ktm 110 miles ). Suspension wise the Ducati just edges it but engine wise on the road it needs thrashing before it really takes off ,whereas the ktm is flying at 6000 rpm .Also the Street fighter is silly money for a performance exhaust , which it needs as it sounds like a bag of spanners standard ,and the plastic wings on a 20 grand bike , come on Ducati !
@jgarledge 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't mention the add$5-6k for "S" on top of KTM, Slipper Clutch is standard. I own 2018 SDR, buying 2nd 2021 in March. He didn't even mention the GRUNT aka:higher torque, worthy of a mention, and 12,500rpms for peak HP on Duc,,,,,,Sounds like he is a White collar guy, wanting to impress others, NOT ME! No need to impress anyone,,,,V4S is nice, but not $24K nice, 59 yrs old & KTM Again!
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
ktm is for peasants and is cheap bike. No one wants shit stuff. People want luxury and comfy like ducati. Ducati looks better too and has better brand.
@darrenbutler9261 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 its a shame when less enlightened people like you think brand image and expensive means better. Just mind you don't suffocate your chihuahua when it's in your gucci handbag
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenbutler9261 man randomly talks about chihuahua. U watch too much beastality u weirdo.
@ccava 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 Sounds like you just want your ego stroked.
@MyPaulo1988 3 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of one of those sarcastic videos clarkson used to do, but this was loads better. Keep up the good work matey
@Below-Average_Joe 3 жыл бұрын
Both are incredible, but the idea of a super high performance V-twin really appeals to me.
@MrG1969X 3 жыл бұрын
Nice back to back reviews on both awesome bikes 👍🏼
@dblhelx 3 жыл бұрын
As always, world-class content and delivery. Thanks for this video, sir.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@robertkemp9023 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video, though I echo the previous comment about missing the price comparison.
@chrisnowell4101 3 жыл бұрын
Close call between the two bikes, I agree. Considering how often we reach the extent of the 180 or 200+ bhp, I will be very interested to see how you rate the new S1000r sport when it's released in a couple of months or so. It's supposedly more street orientated. Hope you have that one on your list.
@LeeJane2009 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, a very enjoyable watch, keep up the good work 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@ghowells5433 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one, and having taken delivery of a new Superduke I don’t feel too sad. Gotta disagree with fun factor to the Duke though, KTM has it in spades. Both great bikes and thanks for the review.
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
ewww duke user here. How u feel with a cheap ktm brand xDDD
@nickwilliams7939 3 жыл бұрын
Great review just purchased the street fighter today - thank you
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow lucky fella - what a bike!
@marcusgeorge1825 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Andy! Haven’t ridden them however I’m sure I’d be happy with either! Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@MrJonnyh1972 2 жыл бұрын
The KTM is an absolute dream to ride, you can have amazing fun at 6k. A friend has the Duke and it's a beautiful thing, but it doesn't have the flexibility in the engine on the road like the SDR does. The KTM is an amazing weapon and now with semi active suspension on the 2022 evo.
@olliemilner1 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 2019 BMW S1000R Sport with 1800 miles for £9000. That still has to be the best supernaked considering value for money!
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is a lot of bike for the money - well done....
@MAK9246 3 жыл бұрын
You can get a 2014 S1000R for around £6k. That's got to be an absolute bargain
@soupdragon1 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely bike for that money and in my opinion the best value Super naked on the road. And its a BMW
@jerichom11x 3 жыл бұрын
@@MAK9246 the 2017+ sport with DDC, cruise control and heated is the best value.
@martiniv8924 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my S1000R , one of the best 👌🏻 well done 👍🏻
@amancalledjames9345 3 жыл бұрын
Tuono for me 😁 good vid as usual, thanks. Nice Aston Martin on the lanes.
@jamesbusing679 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on 2021 BMWs1000r? Vs my thoughts on buying Ducati streetfighter?
@turgutugursoy3074 3 жыл бұрын
I think you've missed a very important point, practicality. KTM offers easy release side bags, much more comfortable pillion seat, cruise control, screens and many other accessories. This is a really big advantage for KTM.
@SuperAdventureR1301 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the V4s didn't offer cruise control. I love to have fun and go fast, but also enjoy a peaceful tour of the coast too, and cruise control is huge for me. Think that just made my decision easier.
@AlbertVicol Жыл бұрын
U can also add a windscreen fro. Puig, a street rack from sw motech and u got yourself a proper touring bike. Can’t say the same about the Ducati. Not to mention the sidebags have an “ invisible” mounting system.
@mmd-pne4998 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@LickyDischarge 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised the backlit switchgear on the KTM didn’t tip that segment in its favour. Great video TMF 👌🏼👍🏻😎
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@andyb3331 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see the comparison on price for both bikes with the SDR fully loaded with the performance pack and track pack ?
@aclimbatize 3 жыл бұрын
@Andy Freeman Yeah . . that's pretty much why I went with the SDR too. The price on the Duc is just way too high for me to justify. Hell, I felt guilty buying the SDR considering it's one of the most expensive bikes in this class from a major manufacturer. Don't regret it at all though. If money weren't an issue I may have gone with the Duc, but there's just something about the SDR that spoke to me.
@richardkillian5657 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video, thank you. I think it would also be good to have a section comparing both purchase cost and running costs (the latter you would have to estimate if you won't have the bike for very long). If two bikes are very similar in their abilities and are trading blows in various categories, if one bike would cost you £4k more and you had to service it much more frequently, I think that would inevitably be the deciding factor for many of us. I probably wouldn't mention MPG as we don't purchase these bikes for their economy. However if there was a massive difference in MPG then it's probably worth mentioning that too.
@gcosmos960 3 жыл бұрын
Ducati for me, that's it. Looking forward to any bike + plane videos combo when the lockdown relaxes. Great vid TMF
@kirk9899 3 жыл бұрын
I think you got it right for the most part. However, the only thing I would change would be the handlebar controls. The KTM has cruise control and the Ducati does not. I would award an extra point to the KTM so it would be two to three and one draw. 😊
@ivarsgrantins3163 Жыл бұрын
And look at the price difference ktm is a winner
@jonmercer8390 3 жыл бұрын
Having owned various Ducati's and KTM's over the years I was interested to watch this comparison video, and I know it's only based upon one persons perspective. Some things worth mentioning while watching: - 1. The Ducati screen flicked from day/night way more than the KTM's throughout the video, even before it was mentioned it was annoying me as it was changing constantly. 2. I agree that having to pay to get the Q/S to work on the KTM is a cheeky move, but it is £3.5k cheaper than the Ducati 3. Both are super naked's but one is nearly a third of the price more than the other, so you would expect better finish/components. 4. I've not ridden the Streetfighter so I cannot agree/disagree but I have heard from people that have, have said the Streetfighters engine is amazing but you have to rev it to utilise that power which isn't the point of a road bike. Keep up the good work, there's a 1290RR looming which should be similar ££ to the SFV4S so that would be a good comparison on a better level.
@Sozin91 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up cruise control or heated grips on the KTM. As a road bike that costs over 20 grand, it is pretty inexcusable the Ducati doesn’t offer either. You also missed the in dash navigation the the KTM offers. Again for a 20 grand bike, these are the features that buyers are looking for in a road bike. The fact that you cant get them on the Ducati (apart from heated grips which is a $500 extra when dealer installs) is inexcusable for the price they charge.
@creedm3040 3 жыл бұрын
And no fuel gauge!!?? Are you serious ?
@Firestorm637 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Super Duke has a fuel gauge. You would think all the R&D Audi/VW that they could figure out a fuel gauge vs a stupid excuse.
@Sozin91 3 жыл бұрын
@@Firestorm637 If you look at the fuel tank on the Ducati it is partially under the seat and makes a sharp bend so it would be very difficult to make an accurate gauge due to the shape. So that I can understand why they wouldn’t do it. But the cruise control, heated grips, and navigation that are missing are inexcusable for a bike at this price point, especially given that Ducati include all those features on the new Multistrada.
@Firestorm637 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the fuel tanks on some of KTM’s adventure bikes. They still have fuel gases KTM is rapidly growing approaching number 3, Kawasaki!
@juliusbrewster 3 жыл бұрын
He also didn't bring up the KTM is keyless vs the ignition system of the ducati. You would think ducati would offer that on a $24k bike. They do in the diavel so why not that. I own 2018 SDR and I don't think I could ever go back to a key ignition system. He missed a lot of points on the KTM in my opinion. Not really a fair comparison.
@garypunter412 3 жыл бұрын
Epic comparison Andy. What a choice to make between these two beasts? Out of these I think I would go for the KTM. Can’t put my finger on why, just would. Thanks for keeping me sane during Lockdown3.0. It is much appreciated.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Gary!
@Joric78 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the previous generation KTM SD 1290 (the price difference for the latest model wasn't worth it to me). For me it's all about the engine, and smoothness isn't a category I care about (in the sense of vibrations, good fueling is still a must). I do like a V4, but the power and torque delivery of a 1301cc V-Twin, especially in the low-mid range, is something I like a lot more. Perfect for the sort of hills riding I like to do.
@randyheiser5367 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 1290 Supertorque. The low end torque is addictive and I can get over 50 mpg. Brrraap.
@petebird7171 3 жыл бұрын
Nice evenly balanced review, thanks 👍👍👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ramonjrusa Жыл бұрын
Great comparison between the two big boys. It would of been nice in this video to display side by side the features of the bikes. Great video though 👍🏼
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Sadly I didn’t have both bikes at the same time!
@Shinysideup 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for the comparison, Ducati for me too. Excellent review as always.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@rgmotors4485 3 жыл бұрын
I want to get a super naked this year and the KTM and the Ducati street fighter are in my list but waiting till March , April time so I can see the new triumph speed triple 1200 RS in Watford. Lots to think about with choice and brand. You video's help alot as its great to see someone else's prospect. Great job sir
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - glad to help!
@henrysmith5604 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video 😊👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Stone1108 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and informative review and comparison, thanks. I was with the KTM right to the point where you said the quick shifter was a software extra, I’ve had two KTM’s but tired of this kind of customer contempt now, love the bikes but hey, healthy competition has caught up now guys. Now narrowed my choice down to the Ducati Street-fighter or Triumph Speed Triple RS. 👏
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Andrew...
@Thirsty_Fox 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider test riding a Versys-X 300? I know it's a few years since release but I'm interested in your opinion on it. Safe riding!
@AriesTheUmpteenth 3 жыл бұрын
Think both are equally good choices if you want a great hyper naked, though IMO the V4 looks the best (love how they managed to integrate the headlight's curve into the tank, none of that 'tacked on bits and bobs'-feeling some bikes suffer from). Though I guess we'll have to wait for the MV Dragster to release so you can have the ultimate naked hyper hooligan shootout (might need a s1000rr in the mix as well, get cracking ;3).
@icemanjondoe 2 жыл бұрын
after watching this i’m definitely going to the ktm..i initially wanted the duck but after a few reviews the ktm clinches it for me
@36moto 3 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF, nice little down to earth comparison as usual, Having tested both of these fab bikes, my pants say KTM, heart says Ducati..... if you get my drift, I found the Ktm to be like Swat team full on and aggressive with the Ducati v4s Streetfighter being just as effective and super fast without making a song and Dance...
@eubikedude 3 жыл бұрын
The "something about a Ducati" - the wondering when it's going to have the next issue. ;)
@calvinteh3297 3 жыл бұрын
Or wondering the cost of the next service
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Never had a problem with mine.....
@eubikedude 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer You probably don't take it out in the same conditions as e.g. the GS though, right? Probably washing after every ride vs coming home wet from a commute in the dark of winter and it being too cold to wash? My 1290 has been far better (and still looks new when washed) than the MultiStrada in those use cases. Any bike is likely to have few problems if "babied". 😜
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@eubikedude Yes true, I do baby my Ducati for sure - that's what it's there for!
@finemanm 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2012 monster 796 with no issues at all.
@Pmason718 3 жыл бұрын
No fuel sensor on the Ducati? 😡 for that reason alone at that price the KTM would be a winner for me.
@andrewgibbs5135 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, such a difficult choice, they are both fabulous. I agree with you about the looks of the Ducati too ! Great video, many thanks 👍. P.S. What is the bike on the intro........sounds like a Harley ?
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not it is a Triumph Street Cup!
@jimwatts4222 3 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF, I realize this comparison is between the KTM 1290 Super Duke R and the Ducati Streetfighter V4S, however, I just revisted your comparison video between the GS and the XR 2020 and I can't help but wonder...if you could only choose between the 2020 BMW S1000 XR (red version of course) and the 2020 Ducati Streetfighter v4S, which would you choose? I happen to own a 2020 Ducati Streetfighter V4S and have been drawn to the BMW S1000 XR. You're perspective would be especially helpful.
@TTRC 4 ай бұрын
Nice video again. 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@ridingwithrusso7790 3 жыл бұрын
These two are beasts! A bit annoying how quickly the KTM's info screen goes into night mod. But the KTM's tach looks easier to read.
@lynsmith1096 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison video TMF
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@greyanaroth 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my. Tmf giving the people the content they need
@ozrider8896 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, I wanted to know if they were different in the head on wind hitting you as both are nakeds. Was one better than the other? Never owned a naked before.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Both the same in that department.....
@RichDunn 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I was torn when I bought my Streetfighter V4S, I love a good KTM too. But it's just so epic, I'm really glad I went with the Ducati!
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Good man Richard, from the comments it seems we're in the minoroty - both bikes are epic, but for me the Ducati nudges it....
@RichDunn 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well, our opinions are no more valid than the next riders. But to fully appreciate one does have to experience. And as well as riding hundreds of other bikes, we've actually ridden these extensively. So hopefully, we're talking from an impartial place of experience! Plus the Ducati is red. 😉
@jasonahl884 2 жыл бұрын
Love the out takes at the end!
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sticking around!
@jasonahl2355 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested in your opinion of the v4s multistrada - can’t see a review unless I have missed it
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Not ridden it yet - would love too!
@nokneedownian8521 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should have put the cost of each bike next to each other but as always another great review
@paulmorley6912 3 жыл бұрын
Great video once again. I totally agree with your opinions. The streetfighter is the nicer than the KTM, but as you say everything is marginal. Have to sat though, if I was getting one it would be the KTM, love the streetfighter but it doesn't justify being so much more expensive
@Andy.H.H. 3 жыл бұрын
Jumping back and forth between the 2 bikes, I can really hear the difference in the sound of the engines. I prefer the way the KTM sounds. The Ducati isn't bad but the KTM has a more pleasing lower growl.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's quite noticeable when you watch the video isn't t - more so than when I actually rode them!
@vodkashotjr 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Can you compare the Streetfighter with your Street Triple R? Worth the price to upgrade?? 😎
@markbur1503 3 жыл бұрын
Another great side by side comparison Andy. However is the V4s worth the extra 5k or so, over the Superduke in your real world opinion?
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not by any logical measure - but I'd still have the Ducati over the KTM if money was not an issue....
@marcoluoma3770 3 жыл бұрын
Fun video, thanks. (Interestingly, in American, when comparing two items we say “which is better?”)
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Divided by a common language.....
@GareyCooperdude 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Flyer...I was wondering about your impressions on these two machines. I would think you're one of the rare people to have the experience? In any case they ARE on my radar.....and having the V4S Panigale, I would say the Ducati has the edge for me. BUT, I will take a ride on a KTM before that particular trigger gets pulled. And the really large price difference has to play a part as well......
@UncleWally3 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that comparison; well done! For the first thirty years riding motorcycles, my main pre-purchase source of information was advertising and word of mouth; at best, tribal. For the last twenty years, I’ve been obsessed about finding out as much as possible before buying. But, and I have no idea if my experience is representative, for me the quality of the dealership has driven my choice as much as the bike itself. To this end, before they all disappear and we buy everything on-line, it may be interesting to “review” dealerships: what attracts, what repels, what enables and impedes sales and customer loyalty?
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have thought about that Walter....might be something in that.....
@andrewlucas6214 3 жыл бұрын
Both bikes seem brilliant. Not sure if it’s anything to do with sound recording but, Ducati sounds mechanically harsh compared to ktm. Please, please as soon as it’s possible, give us a test on the speed triple? Great video as always.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Will do....
@splodge5714 3 жыл бұрын
Ducati sounds low on engine oil. Not nice.
@mikaelschevik5274 3 жыл бұрын
I think the comfort aspect is quite important as well. I like to go on longer trips so I had to get rid of my S1000R. Lovely bike but being tallish (185cm) made it quite uncomfortable on longer journeys. It's a GS life for me now, lol. Luckily I can enjoy the bikes through these videos!
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@garethtemple6242 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating comparison. Even if I had the money...which I haven't, I'm unlikely to be looking at a super naked but I still acknowledge that they're both great bikes. I'd agree with you that the Ducati just about takes the prize, but I'm not sure that it's significantly better enough to justify the extra cost over the KTM. So on that basis, I'd probably go for the KTM, which is about 95% as good for about 85% of the price!
@gregbaldwin512 3 жыл бұрын
I've just met Andy and Carol on a walk in Missenden ...... What a lovely couple
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Not today you didn't - we haven't been for a walk!!! Imposter alert!!!!
@Mungobean73 3 жыл бұрын
I think a disadvantage with the Ducati is the price which is a reasonable amount more. I have a 2018 SDR up for replacement soon and would contemplate the Streetfighter for a change though. Having said that I haven’t managed to do 900 miles on my SDR from new yet 🙈
@christianfredrickborg9609 3 жыл бұрын
I just sold my 2018 KTM 1290 SDR and ordered a 2021 Ducati Streetfighter V4S, have not tried the Ducati so I am excited. At least I do not think I have done anything stupid. And thanks for the video.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
I seem to be in a minority but I'd have the Ducati over the KTM personally....
@karlosh9286 3 жыл бұрын
Good review, as always ! The big question is , when does the Panigale get swapped in for a V4 Streetfighter ? :-D
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned! ;0)
@stevepovey2489 3 жыл бұрын
I was confident of being right :-). Personally I would take an adventure bike because my grin factor comes from touring all over Europe. I'm sure these are great for a Sunday blatt for the younger amongst us though.
@skandix 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid, Price was not a factor?
@corentinalpha4784 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the comparison a lot, loved the pre-editing even more 😂. If I was in the market for a supenaked, I would go for a Tuono. The poise, the sound of the v4 (that sounds like a v4 and not a v2), the excitement... Completely useless on road therefore essential.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly - it's all about the heart this exotic motorbike lark isn't it, not about the head!
@MattP168 3 жыл бұрын
All down to personal smiles per gallon. I have the KTM in my garage after riding both, another will differ that’s why we love talking bikes 😜
@rumien1383 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know why, but the captions were on this video. Apparently you said " hey kids it's the piston floor" 👍😁
@maldridge7630 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I could've sworn in mine it said 'hey kids I keep missing to hit the fly' So I just dismiss it thinking fly swatting must be a big deal in the UK 😁😁😁
@AmenCornerRider 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful review. If you could pick, 1290duke r or 890 Duke r?
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
1290 for me….
@RZFD 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that you have your Panigale for those lovely summer days /nights when you want a sports bike. What would you rather have: The Streetfighter S or The BMW S1000XR (2020 New one) and why?
@willraven7 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. I'm curious to see outcome if you could get on a ZH2.
@samiam5326 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get to use 4th, 5th, or 6th gears? 😉 (Especially on the KTM.)
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Very rarely
@interceptordave 3 жыл бұрын
I have the KTM and it won't pull 6th on standard gearing at road legal speeds so it is completely redundant. I've never used it officer, honest....
@samiam5326 3 жыл бұрын
@@interceptordave 😂
@markbaker5221 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should have mentioned price difference which I think makes the KTM the winner, even with the quickshifter added cost. The Ducati is nice but grin factor I think would go for the KTM because of torque being higher? So when taking this into consideration and cost I think the KTM has it but then I do own one lol👍🏻 Keep up the good work
@RutgerSmets 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think there is no wrong choice between these two...
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.....both amazing machines....
@mrkang4080 3 жыл бұрын
I own both (2018 SDR and a 2021 V4S Dark Stealth) -- it was the only reasonable solution :-) The V4S is simply a better bike, but I reach for my orange keys more often than the red ones... granted, my SDR is heavily modified, but even stock it was the "funnest" street bike I've ever owned. The V4S is actually a bit boring by comparison... I say that because it's simply easier to ride while I can barely keep the front tire of my KTM on the ground. If I had to buy a new bike today, and could only have one, I'd pick the KTM... crazy fun and almost half the price.
@Motorcycle_Mike 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrkang4080 glad I read this! I’m about to pull the trigger on a new 21’ SFV4S, second choice is the 21’KTM SD1290R, just concerned about reliability. TLR and others have all experienced bad luck issues. Hows the low end torque on both of your stead’s? And how thirsty do they both get?
@mrkang4080 3 жыл бұрын
@@Motorcycle_Mike I think reliability issues on both bikes stem from old stories and old bikes... Duc and KTM, much like Volkswagen, are brands that seem to continue to suffer from reliability issues from decades ago... I think they are unfounded. As for the bikes, my SDR is heavily, heavily, modified (carbon fiber bodywork, BST wheels, full akra with a power commander tune, etc.) -- the tune really helped with fuel consumption. With the money you save on the KTM, I'd highly recommend a full exhaust and custom tuning. Really brought the bike to life IMO. The V4S is kinda boring by comparison... don't get me wrong, it's AMAZING, but the KTM is terrifying at all RPMs while the Duc needs to be wound up a bit. The suspension and fit/finish of the SFV4S is like no other bike on the market, and worth every penny if you can afford it. Fuel consumption seems to be an issue on this bike for most people, but I haven't noticed... then again, I just got it so I don't have enough saddle time to notice it yet. You can't go wrong with either bike, the KTM is actually really good at slow speeds and around town (as is the Duc). The KTM can wheelie all day at any speed, while the Duc feels better during spirited rides and in the twisties (the full Ohlins setup is great on the street and track). Both are pretty comfy (I'm 6'4" / 193cm ~ 220lbs/100kg)... so I think the decision should really come down to budget... My problem now is that they just announced the Super Duke RR... lol
@sudhinkumars7940 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrkang4080 completely agree
@dannyracer25 3 жыл бұрын
Another good video Tmf ..well ktm for me it's just the price really as I like both bikes .thanks from danny
@emoservedwithfries Жыл бұрын
Knowing the updates... would you choose the duke evo r or the streetfighter sp? Knowing that the ducati is like 7k-ish more
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Not worth 7K more - The Duke wins at those prices….
@roberthall1437 3 жыл бұрын
G'Day TMF. I'm with you on this comparison review. It's only the price of the Ducati would hold me back. The KTM is a very good bike but i've read a lot of comments about their electronics package, not up to scratch. I need reliability for my cash!!
@althebal86 3 жыл бұрын
The new Triumph speed triple 1200 rs will hopefully give these two bikes a run for there money! I'll look forward to your review of that beast. Hopefully soon?
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Well I have asked Triumph - but it wont be any time particularly soon....
@jobyEN 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Did you get back your Interceptor yet? Thank's!
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Nah - COVID causing delays - I reckon it'll be a couple of months yet reading between the lines.....no rush on my part as we can't ride for fun currently!
@veljkovic92 3 жыл бұрын
As always, beautifully done review. With a proper in depth review of stuff and subjective conclusion. Just as it should be. Well done! 💪🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Stefan!
@JD-sl7fd 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a Honda msx125 review ?
@Mr0Watcher 2 жыл бұрын
Hi geat video! But i still have some questions! im really really in to both bikes. And i still can't decide on which one i should buy. But I know that on the Streetfighter you can change the throttle settings. Like for instance to medium or low and then when you yank the throttle it will ''gently'' arcelerate. So different than the wheely control. Is there a similar thing on the KTM 1290 super duke?
@ryegoryshev 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Performance and Track modes have different throttle settings to choose from
@davidmeadows5665 2 жыл бұрын
What about mpg and running costs? I know the Multistrada is awful returning circa 25 mpg
@ClaudioSubtil1974 3 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF. Can you show us with detail those helmet hangers on yours garage ceiling? Nice solution. Cheers from Portugal.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
They’re just hooks screwed into the roof joists!
@Bazza47 3 жыл бұрын
Guess the one important thing you missed was price, which the KTM would have won. Things like tank range might be important too as being a v4 and producing more power I'd guess the Ducati will be thirstier than the KTM, which initially might not be a problem but if the tank range is poor it tends to grate a bit once you've had the bike for a while
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
ktm is shite and cheap
@diamondmidnightgardener 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 interesting, which Ducatis and KTMs have you owned?
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
@@diamondmidnightgardener ktm just duke 390 which i sold a year later, ducati I currently hve a monster 696 which i must say is 100x smoother and more reliable. What about you?
@user-yw8ek4dj5v 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 You do realise base entry small bikes are always typically cheap whereas the top of the line model always have the most care put in. Get a life, not everyone has to like the same as you. You are young and have ridden small bikes, you have no idea about the topic of these big ones. Grow up.
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-yw8ek4dj5v Loool I dont think you can say that, monster and 390 are both bottom of the line and ducati wins hands down. I have also tried some of the panigale series and Diavel and both of them are much better than the 1290 and 890. I know quite a few friends with 1290, ofc its a lot cheaper than Diavel and so its a good option but thats the only area where it wins.
@Motobikereviews 11 ай бұрын
How do you have your recording audio so crisp what’s your setting ?
@TheMissendenFlyer 11 ай бұрын
Just have the mic close to my mouth…
@debenhamdave4314 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly both fantastic bikes would love to own either. As you say most important factor is grin factor. Cheers Andy.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree - at this point of silly money and silly power logic kind of goes out of the window anyway, these are feel-good emotion machines....
@Banditmanuk 3 жыл бұрын
Fair and honest comparison, I would still buy an MT10 and have enough cash left to buy a Royal Enfield Interceptor. (The Ducati does look good though)
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough....
@parko1965 3 жыл бұрын
Tested both but went for the Duke. It's the V Twin appeal, I first experienced while owning an XDiavel. Having said that, if Ducati put the 1260 Testastretta in the Monster I'd buy it.
@Daniel-gb9ex 3 жыл бұрын
Any forecast on when you might get ahold of a Speed Triple 1200 ?
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Will be a couple of months yet I suspect...
@mickthemaverick5998 3 жыл бұрын
Not qualified to judge having not ridden either but result exactly as I expected. However a price and cost to run for each would have been a useful addotion to the video, even tho that info is available elsewhere, it would be good tp put the other comparisons in context. Great vid nonetheless.
@mikemcgovern3372 3 жыл бұрын
Mickthemaverick agreed. If the Ducati is better, is it worth the extra cost (assuming it's more expensive)?
@pepperlx9277 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Flyer can you do a quick comparison of V1, V2 and V3 Superduke 1290 with the current riding computer technology and wizardry, how relevant is the V1 and V2 in 2021.
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly no - I don’t have access to those bikes or know enough about them....
@johnterry804 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Ducati for me! It’s just that extra bit special! Great video 👍
@Gracinda80 3 жыл бұрын
No fuel indicator!? Forget the Ducati... But the video is super nice, thanks! :)
@andrewshore262 3 жыл бұрын
KTM, it’s cheaper and a walk on the wild side......
@macieksztyk 3 жыл бұрын
And sounds so much better 😍
@Aiken47 3 жыл бұрын
I like it, it’s all kinds of fun
@SRNAR8 3 жыл бұрын
ktm is clapped and for poor people. Ducati and MV are like the rolex of bikes.
@andrewshore262 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 Over priced trinkets yup, got that one right.
@michaelgregory4760 3 жыл бұрын
@@SRNAR8 🤡🤡🤡🤮💩💩💩
@mmariorr9949 3 жыл бұрын
I like Your garage inside a lot looks very tidy 😍😍😍
@crumblymal8479 3 жыл бұрын
I like both to really nit pick the only thing I find a little irritating is the damper on the Ducati for me just looks like an ugly after thought bolted on I find myself just lookin at it when you ride it and wanting to take it off haha . Great comparison Andy as ever cheers . : ) Oh man I am really lookin forward to when you get on the new Speed Triple hope you get it for a good length of time .
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