Kurt Cobain's FIRST LOVE & Muse (The Story of Tracy Marander)

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This is the untold story of Tracy Marander, Kurt Cobain's muse and girlfriend before Courtney Love. Go beyond the headlines and discover how Tracy's unwavering support shaped the early days of Nirvana. From funding recording sessions and gigs to inspiring the iconic song "About a Girl," Tracy's influence on Kurt and the grunge movement is undeniable. Dive deep into the world of 90s grunge, explore the real love story behind Nirvana's music, and see how Tracy's heartbreak ultimately changed music history.
00:00 - Intro
00:41 - Who is tracy?
04:53 - Tracy & Nirvana
07:24 - Breakup

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@nimitz1739 Ай бұрын

And Kurt left her high and dry. All the money he made that he didn’t even care about he could’ve gave her a couple of million. Or maybe just one million. In gratitude for her basically letting him live rent free while he was getting his band off the ground. Kind of shows how selfish he could be. IMO

@cosmospray Ай бұрын

Agree… she was working every day till 9 to pay the bills and she worked for the band. As soon as he gets money and success he drop her. What a rude freeloader….

@hehasnolips1371 Ай бұрын

That’s because he was selfish he was a terrible person and so was Courtney what an evil duo they had been if you watched interviews with him and country Kurt would be so disrespectful to the interviewer he was a hypocrite (everyone knew that) and was a narcissist

@halloweenjack95 Ай бұрын

As much as I love Nirvana & respect Kurt. I gotta agree.

@halloweenjack95 Ай бұрын

@@hehasnolips1371 he wasn't a narcisst. He was biopolar and also physically sick. Add heroin addiction on top of that.

@le_th_ Ай бұрын

Narcissists don't do that, they feel pathologically entitled to have someone else take care of them until them "make it big". They don't do chores. That's for other people menial people to do them.

@jedimindfrak82 Ай бұрын

Tracy is the best, she definitely doesn't get enough credit for all that she did. Such a kind soul.

@waanaabe-4795 15 күн бұрын

Too bad that groupie Courtney L. came n and nailed his coffin shut. He needed persons like Tracy around. Did he not see it or was he THAT self-hating?

@Blooodhail Ай бұрын

Tracy is lovely. I’m glad people are appreciating her more. Without her there might not have been Nirvana.

@IRGhost0 Ай бұрын

but also if kurt listened to her, he might have given up on music and started working real jobs.

@sonder8310 19 күн бұрын

@@IRGhost0She did encourage him to keep pursuing music, he himself gave her credit for that. I think it's fine of her to expect after years, that he would get some job to contribute (I was so done hearing apparently she also had to do the house chores, wtf bro??). I couldn't have done her shifts forever, bless her honestly.

@user-if1mj9dj3c Ай бұрын

She was gorgeous! I think it's really sad when she says "maybe he felt like he was moving on and I wasn't" it's like she still loves him, she was sincere

@le_th_ Ай бұрын

This woman made it possible for Kurt and Krist to build a fan base. What a very kind woman, and what a beauty with that dark brown hair and brown eyes.

@CasaDeBarbaYBurro Ай бұрын

Thanks for giving her the recognition she deserves! And thank you Tracy!!

@kundalinicobain6897 Ай бұрын

I love Tracey. But I do think Kurt partially used her. Like if anybody else had pulled off such selfish behaviour, we’d all call him a jerk and used. But Kurt gets away with it somehow. Not cool Kurt. So where was your feminism when it came to helping with household chores?!?!?!

@Yes_Anastasia Ай бұрын

A lot of men do this when they become famous. Jim Carrey comes to mind immediately.

@marisaschmutz9034 Ай бұрын

@@Yes_Anastasiawhat did Jim C do?

@ratsontherails 28 күн бұрын

Stop being the moral police, it's embarrassing. We are all humans we make mistakes , especially as young people.

@kundalinicobain6897 28 күн бұрын

@ratsontherails don’t project your shame onto me. Keep it 👈

@ratsontherails 28 күн бұрын

@@kundalinicobain6897 you are criticizing a guy that's been dead for thirty years over not doing household chores ? Speaking to him directly as if he can hear you? You are the projector here. He can't hear you. Have a clue.

@juansolis4796 Ай бұрын

I bet she didn´t sell one thing he made, unlike Courtney.

@Huppyhuppyhuppy Ай бұрын

Common story for famous musicians, once they get famous and no longer need support they move to another

@mimi2the4 Ай бұрын

Not just musicians.....

@matildam797 27 күн бұрын

This actually happened to me and he is not even that famous yet

@rosevanguard 24 күн бұрын

Well he wasn’t famous in 1988, but soon he would be.

@yanamooncraft 19 күн бұрын

Sadly it isn't just famous people who did this...

@JosefineLea 17 күн бұрын

I can confirm that its not only famous people.... You make someone feel better and help them up from the bottom, and they abandon you and even put you down because now they feel they are better than you... Instead of expressing gratitude.

@ultra_blaise 26 күн бұрын

This just confirms that no one should date or marry a person for their potential. Artist or not never build up a person. She is clearly in denial saying she doesn't know why they broke up but than says it very clearly "he was moving ahead and I wasn't", not only that, but he was garnering fame, getting other female attention and didn't need to use her for money anymore. I dislike stepping stone people.

@junejunejuniejune 28 күн бұрын

I think of their story in parallel to Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham's story... Stevie wanted to support Lindsay's success and song writing, she was waiting tables for him to live for free.... but he took her with him in his success. Stevie was part of the package deal he made when he joined Fleetwood Mac. But Kurt did not bring Tracy along for his success, and I am not sure he truly thanked her as she deserved. He left her high and dry after all she did for him.

@ManticMenace Ай бұрын

If they stay together Who Knows how history changes

@ElSantoLuchador Ай бұрын

I was in Olympia and went to Evergreen at a time when Kurt was hanging around and Nirvana was playing dive bars and parties. They weren't even a thing in Seattle yet. The effect of Kathleen Hanna (Bikini Kill) on Kurt's trajectory is under-appreciated. She's the reason "Smells Like Teen Spirit" had that title.

@sweetestcyanide Ай бұрын

she also co-owned and operated reko muse, an art gallery and live venue that the photo for bleach was taken in (as said in the video). it was their opening night and she had nirvana play along with bikini kill (her band)

@chrisl3336 Ай бұрын

She is a good human being definitely

@tutmosispagnotta 28 күн бұрын

Kurt was not the person the media portraid. He used Tracy to get his band to success, living rent free in her apartment while she worked till late to pay rent and bills. He was selfish and immature.

@jeanqueen8401 17 күн бұрын

The one that does the hard work doesn’t get rewarded.

@one-stopgodshop2171 Ай бұрын

What a lovely girl, and he burned her like that? Maybe he did deserve Courtney.

@icaanul Ай бұрын

Definitely seemed like he used her as a launchpad. As soon as a hint of potential success came, ditched her. Chad, too. But in the world where we paint all dead as martyrs, that's probably something that would piss people off to say. Regardless, that seemed very selfish. Breaking up with one in the usual way can be benign but ditching his patron and his drummer within such a short time looks motivated by career instead of genuine feelings. Over the phone? FFS

@BrooklynBaby100 16 күн бұрын

@icaanul Recently broke it off with someone who I said “it’s not my problem” when they mentioned they had not made it far enough as a professional musician. It’s not. I’m not his mom. And he got very upset but it was instinctual for me. I felt repulsed by his own lack of drive and ambition. Ew!

@brokencandy1797 13 күн бұрын

I don't think he did intentionally, like as some sort of Machiavellian plot. He didn't know Nirvana would become NIRVANA. He didn't know if or when his music career would take off. I think he entered the relationship in good faith and it fit his life at the time, and later he felt it didn't. Clearly he wanted a partner who was also an artist. Maybe back when he was a janitor who had a band and was dating a waitress it felt comfortable and made sense, when it was looking increasingly likely that his mop pushing days would soon be behind him, he felt that he needed someone whose schedule and priorities are align with that kind of life. He probably didn't predict that his priorities would change.

@user-yz8xf2bl2k Ай бұрын

Tracy ❤ The best girlfriend in this world.. Deserve the best song.. Always ❤

@gomerhanger2285 Ай бұрын

verify common.. the book Rocket Queen details what happned to all the gf that supported their bfs till they got big and dumped them all for models.

@sd5884 27 күн бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, never heard of this book but it seems interesting

@ZowieFaerieYeah 12 күн бұрын

I can't find this book... who is the author?

@NateDiggy33 Ай бұрын

Outstanding content on a Kurt subject that has not already been done to death. Thanks.

@julesvan Ай бұрын

Reminder that Tracy found Kurt unconscious with a syringe stuck in his arm and his use only escalated from that point on as well as his ecstasy use during their relationship... Too many clueless users pretending he would still be alive if he hadn't dumped her. He was on a mission to self destruct and he didn't listen to anyone.

@clarajoao3359 Ай бұрын

exactly

@mayjailerxx Ай бұрын

@@clarajoao3359so true!

@NOKEEZY 28 күн бұрын

I’m sure he didn’t realize how deep his heroine use would go, as does anybody who gets into it. As for the ecstasy… bro was just having fun.

@jenhasken 27 күн бұрын

This is why I don’t revere the guy like so many do and I don’t really understand that.

@mack7329 23 күн бұрын

That thought she said in that documentary that she wasn’t aware of him ever using herion…

@belle1762 Ай бұрын

The high pitched sounds you used between parts was freaking out my dog lol

@pinkkitten_nails Ай бұрын

So he basically used her. Sometimes idols have bad sides to them as well

@ratsontherails 28 күн бұрын

He was a young dude he made mistakes like we all do

@JosefineLea 17 күн бұрын

Lol everyone has bad sides...

@RafaelSilva-od4bb Ай бұрын

Tracy was the real deal. As he became richer and weirder, Kurt fantasized about having a relationship like that of Sid and Nancy. Courtney just happened to fit in perfectly. Had he lived on after those turbulent years, they (Kurt-Courtney) wouldn't have lasted long as a couple.

@sd5884 27 күн бұрын

The guy was definitely really dark and disturbed… Fantasizing about a couple destroying themselves in appartement which look garbage deposit, who will end with the guy stabbing to death his girlfriend… I knew he was dark but not that dark..

@Kornhulio18 20 күн бұрын

That was actually Courtneys little fantasy not Kurts

@thecbglady Ай бұрын

We love you Tracy

@mahakhatib27 Ай бұрын

Its so tragic that this relationship ended the way it did. Both people were wrong in this circumstance. Tracy should not have threatened to kick out Kurt and should have just talked about how she was feeling and communicate what she wanted from him (which was probably stability and support). As for Kurt, he should have been more considerate of Tracy and should have held up his role in the household. Should of, would of, could of, am I right?

@JamesBarker-qt3pb Ай бұрын

Should Would Could Of Is Me 24/7

@mahakhatib27 Ай бұрын

@@JamesBarker-qt3pb lol same😆

@Rotwangsrobot001 Ай бұрын

He was cheating on her. She was getting used.

@mahakhatib27 Ай бұрын

@@Rotwangsrobot001 You say that and I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are always two sides to every story. Saying Tracy didn't make any mistakes in the relationship would be completely unfair and not true to what really happened.

@AminorMorning Ай бұрын

@@Rotwangsrobot001 self professed "male feminists" are always the worst from my experience.

@angelmorrigan7680 Ай бұрын

it is too bad he didnt stay with tracy! he would still be alive today and maybe we would have more music or art!!!

@thecbglady Ай бұрын

really tho! but damn, we always throw away the ppl who really love us. At least i always did

@Danathema Ай бұрын

He would have been dead around 1991/1992

@hehasnolips1371 Ай бұрын

He wouldn’t Kurt had depression and was a hypocrite,narcissist and a druggie who unalived himself

@NA-xb4mq Ай бұрын

Yall do not know that lmfao

@sd5884 27 күн бұрын

What a stupid comment. He loved drugs, he wanted a junkie rockstar lifestyle and he OD’d several times before dying. You can’t save people that don’t want to and he wanted all that.

@starshineraiser6729 Ай бұрын

Wow, I’m very pleasantly surprised by the great quality of this video. It’s fun to watch. Well done.

@MelissaElwell-dn3sj 27 күн бұрын

makes you wonder if Kurt never met Courtney if he would still be alive

@nisa3695 Ай бұрын

Sadly of course the good girls get trashed 😢

@gathrightcrystal Ай бұрын

We love Tracy ❤️

@kermit1473 21 күн бұрын

I have always felt so bad for Tracy...thank you lovely lady...you are soo soo kind

@tia2all501 Ай бұрын

Tracy was a beautiful lady who has a beautiful heart ❤

@nananab.9985 Ай бұрын

People keep using a photo that shows Kathleen Hanna and Kurt and saying it’s Tobi Vail and Kurt when it’s not… that’s Kathleen Hanna Tobis friend and band mate who also around the time Tobi and Kurt were daring inspired the name smells like teen spirit. There’s no photos of Tobi and Kurt released or much info of their relationship..Tobi is pretty private

@Adasteia Ай бұрын

Tracy is really pretty. Far more so than Courtney ! Tracy is The Girl With The Most Cake ! She had Kurt before he became strung out and hunted !

@endlessnameless6494 Ай бұрын

The book "Come as You are" (which was an authorized biography, from when Kurt was still alive) gives her a lot of credit, but uses the WORST pictures. I'm glad this shows her, properly, when she was young. Yes, a beauty. Kind of a Meg White vibe. Lucky guy for the time. Also, remember: Traci looks like this biologically. Courtney was ALL plastic surgery by the time they met. And even with Plastic surgery...not as pretty, lol.

@davidhenderson9707 Ай бұрын

@@endlessnameless6494very well noted. You can just imagine Kurt thinking “Courtney won’t like these amazing pictures of my ex”. I don’t think he mentions her plastic surgery in the book…. But now you mention that it makes you think twice about “Doll Parts”.

@sd5884 27 күн бұрын

@@endlessnameless6494plastic or not, he was crazy in love with Courtney, her craziness, talent, charisma, punk personality while he mostly just used (and cheated on) Tracy. She definitely never had the most cake…

@kermit1473 21 күн бұрын

Tracy I always thought you were so lovely and cool...thank you for nurturing him...I never thought you got credit for how much you took care of him.... Love you... blessings always from SD

@BrodyLuv2 12 күн бұрын

Hello Tracy 👋 Bristol UK here just wanting to say Thank You for your heart, you helped not just me but millions through your spirit. Thank You x

@yanamooncraft 19 күн бұрын

It sounds like he was taking advantage of her. Did he ever pay her back? She did so much for him and allowed him to be in the position to be able to gig. He sounds like some men that I know; ungrateful and disloyal. I really hope that he repaid her, but I highly doubt it.

@Shadowwolf7774 Ай бұрын

I would want to end my life if married to Love.

@newwavepop Ай бұрын

I am not a Kurt or Nirvana fan and i have very mixed feelings on whether he was actually a decent person or not. but i cant imagine anyone does not think he would have lived a happier healthier life had they made it work.

@JP-ve7or Ай бұрын

Fame, heroin, mental illness? It would have all been the same regardless, unless he was able to clean up.

@ratsontherails 28 күн бұрын

He was human. Flawed like all of us. Gave the world much more than most people do.

@crazyqueen4006 26 күн бұрын

Kurt was a disturbed and mentally ill man from the start. Even before the band started, he had attempts. While he’s not the worst, he definitely isn’t as innocent as people portray him as. He was a mess, and chose to live in chaos. People with trauma or is used to pain usually tend to stay in that comfort because it’s the only emotion that gives them meaning. Prevented getting help, gradually getting worse, pressure and stress, and had a hell of a wife. He was a ticking time bomb basically, just a matter of moments until he explodes.

@Linfindores 21 күн бұрын

@@ratsontherailsand those mistakes should still be held accountable & call a spade a spade regardless of who you are what he did to Tracy was wrong.

@ratsontherails 20 күн бұрын

@@Linfindores you don't even know them or what really happened. Just like someone on the internet has no idea about your personal relationship.imagine a stranger holding you accountable when they don't even know you. That's what you're doing. It's no one else's business and only he and her know the truth. All the rest is judgement and speculation.

@gathrightcrystal Ай бұрын

TRACY ❤

@noiseskateboarder Ай бұрын

Maybe it would have been a different story if he had stayed with Tracy..... Kurt would surely still be alive(RIP)

@VictoriaEatingCake 9 күн бұрын

@Soundscapes Rock, thanks for this video. What is the next video in the storyline?

@bloomtv3-thealtchannel368 Ай бұрын

some minor bits are factually not correct,- ( like the reinserted black&white photo of Kurt with a woman in a concert audience while he blows smoke from a cigarette: as far as we know this photo is very often mistaken for being Kurt with Tracy but the woman in this one is somebody else of the Olympia and Seattle creative scene. Krist later separated from his wife, today is married to somebody else) - but we love you did this docu about Tracy Marander, we think she is the too often cut off the full picture while she backed Cobain up when he completed or even just wrote 80% of Nirvana's released music. Very good job. We thank you!

@majorfeelgoodrecords2740 Ай бұрын

Interesting story thank you very much. We all move on.🎼🤘🏻

@theseattlegreen1871 Ай бұрын

Too bad their relationship couldn't have lasted together instead of Kurt & Courtney.....

@sitindogmas Ай бұрын

beautiful tragic are came from it

@WMWMW0MWMWMW Ай бұрын

Kurt wouldn't be the Kurt you know if it wasn't for Courtney. It doesn't matter if you like her or not.

@theseattlegreen1871 Ай бұрын

@@WMWMW0MWMWMW you know what else doesn't matter?? Your comment

@sitindogmas Ай бұрын

@@WMWMW0MWMWMW fact! Live Through This was a killer album. most of the hater are kids that didn't live through it or people who were just not cool back in the day, fn narcs lop

@apoembydandrangle Ай бұрын

@@WMWMW0MWMWMW what do you mean?

@lpmuzza3274 Ай бұрын

Alot of the classic songs he wrote he wrote in her home, who's to say if he didn't live there he wouldn't have come up with them!

@Cool5380 Ай бұрын

She seemed sweet and nice compared to Love he got after that what a cow!

@mypetcamera 6 күн бұрын

This is love. This made me cry.

@MoonbloomMusic 12 күн бұрын

Kurt did give Tracy a bunch of his paintings which she could cash in on quite well if she were to sell any today.

@kingcreates1379 Ай бұрын

Not to be that guy but that isn’t Tobi vail that’s Carrie Montgomery, they never dated they were just good friends

@maryknight4823 Ай бұрын

Shame they never stayed together!!, Kurt would still be here😔.......

@hehasnolips1371 Ай бұрын

He left because his band got more recognition and left her with nothing not even a single dime 😂😂

@crazyqueen4006 26 күн бұрын

I don’t think it would change the fact that Kurt will still attempt. He was already suffering, even before Courtney came into the picture, she just made him worse.

@iceWaterProductions1 Ай бұрын

Any guy would be lucky to find a girlfriend like Tracy. I’m in my 50s never being married with no kids, wanting to play guitar and drive around the country aimlessly busking. I need someone who thinks what I want to do is cool.

@nisa3695 Ай бұрын

There's a lot of good females but a lot of guys don't want that, they fantasize about the fast trashy types 😢

@nisa3695 Ай бұрын

There are good females, but sadly a lot of guys fantasize about the fast, trashy types 😢

@Tinka22 Ай бұрын

08:20 what is the name of the song? Beautiful documentary, thank you so much!

@mayjailerxx Ай бұрын

For everyone praising Tracy saying she could have saved Kurt, if she had stuck around a decade longer she should be ur new scapegoat instead of Courtney.

@kurtsworld67 Ай бұрын

I love you tracy

@kerstingravel8160 16 күн бұрын

For Tracy it was surely better to live without Kurt. He was too selfish and self-destructive. She deserves better!

@ih8myfriends 16 күн бұрын

“If you work really hard at your instrument, eventually… you’ll get a girlfriend that pays your rent” Satchel of Steel Panther

@BladimirSalazar Ай бұрын

Why the GC of the interview says Tracy Miranda?

@Daniel-p8y Ай бұрын

What is the song playing in the end of the video?

@IDontLookBonita 21 сағат бұрын

Looking through these comments i think people need to keep in mind he was young, and young people nake mistakes. this man has been dead for 30 years, and did good things too! Everyone has made mistakes and we should let the man rest in peace

@IDontLookBonita 21 сағат бұрын

*make

@arielhill5711 23 күн бұрын

All women mother their first boyfriends - ask any of them. We have to teach them how to be emotionally intelligent human beings. It’s exhausting

@roadtriptovegas 26 күн бұрын

Sounds like she dodged a bullet

@deadinthewater218 Ай бұрын

Tracy is a real cutie.

@elihyland4781 Ай бұрын

what an eternal babe

@maxmotors9497 10 күн бұрын

And Patron. Tracy supported Kurt while he wrote a lot of the music we love.

@morticialilas3229 Ай бұрын

I remember Kurt mentioning Tracy.

@noveltycrusade 24 күн бұрын

I've heard this story

@6900a3 Ай бұрын

❤

@YaBoySkelly Ай бұрын

if they wouldve stayed together, Kurt would still be here making history with music

@rubydawn1 12 күн бұрын

he was a good looking guy and she was beautiful

@ijusthis-hr7yg 24 күн бұрын

She’s a beautiful woman.

@ClaireLeslie-eu4tl Ай бұрын

Is there a book on stoicism by a female author? I’m on the hunt now.

@talkingcatsproductions1140 Ай бұрын

Kurt had Turtles. 🐢 He just got cooler.

@BillyWhaler 25 күн бұрын

What the hell happened? Nirvana, Alice, Chris, Scott, Chester…

@user-nr5tj4iv8l 24 күн бұрын

Вывих Правой руки... Клип 8 июля...

@MarieSoularue 25 күн бұрын

At 3:45, it's not Tracy...

@mrfarenheit0323 15 күн бұрын

She and novoselic are the only two in the nirvanasphere who never said a bad thing about anybody.

@anitasseo Ай бұрын

3:44 I don't think that's her.

@therealgaragegirls 22 күн бұрын

Sounds like Kurt kinda used that poor Tracy woman.

@Ibonymaroney Ай бұрын

She got played by the nice guy

@lilcrazymiami8306 Ай бұрын

Sup

@rive3051 Ай бұрын

Kurt is stupid for leaving Tracy for Courtney.

@JamesBarker-qt3pb Ай бұрын

Difficult To Say

@TheNeverists666 Ай бұрын

@@JamesBarker-qt3pb not that difficult, Courtney is basically a walking version of the dark triad test, she literally ticks off every box, and Tracy appeared to be stable, nurturing and moral. Chances are Cobain would still be alive had he not taken heroin and dated and married Courtney Love, who greatly exacerbated his issues.

@mahakhatib27 Ай бұрын

Yeah, but at the same time who knows right? Maybe Tracy would be like Rita (Bob Marley's wife).

@SilentProti Ай бұрын

He didn't leave her for Courtney, he was later dating Tobi Vail and seeing Mary Lou Lord when Courtney called that she's pregnant

@brentleycraft Ай бұрын

Naw

@birdisthezv 2 күн бұрын

What a guy, he was practically living off her for all their time together, made millions, he never worked!

@Elektronik_Oki_jaya_game Ай бұрын

Women behind Kurt die.. is. Love. Love devil

@spideranansi929 16 күн бұрын

Sounds like he used Tracey.

@undergroundlady5892 Ай бұрын

So after her he was with Tobi .... Then Courtney

@INFJparadox Ай бұрын

She’s a Taurus like me. We are incredibly nurturing caring and loving. Then Courtney came! I will never forget the day Kurt died. Rest in peace sweet soul 💖🕊️💖

@undergroundlady5892 Ай бұрын

Taurus and Pisces

@kurt9609 Ай бұрын

If no one write a song about Kurt's turtles, I will fitUp

@jellyboy123 24 күн бұрын

Courtney sold everything.

@lowe-quay-shush Ай бұрын

Courtney helped Kurt to maintain being a Hair-0-wine-0 Forever.

@TheRealValus 26 күн бұрын

Tracy wanted Kurt to be a janitor. 💔 "Become resigned to the fact that you will seem ridiculous to a race of janitors and bureaucrats if you are to enter the service of Splendor." - Léon Bloy

@Frenchick 22 күн бұрын

Ending up with Courtney I think is what ended his life.

@erikastoncius6560 Ай бұрын

It's terrible that Kurt ended up with Courtney!

@shimmeringchimps3842 Ай бұрын

Oof. Ladies, never be a sugar mama to your man. He'll eventually dump you and take his newfound manliness to another woman who hasn't seen him at his most broke.