Kyle Kuzma vs Brandon Ingram: Should the Kings Play It Safe or Take A Risk? | Locked On Kings

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2 ай бұрын

Matt George compares the risks of the Sacramento Kings trading for Brandon Ingram vs the safety of the Kings trading for Kyle Kuzma. Plus, an all-in wild card option.
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Kyle Kuzma vs Brandon Ingram: Should the Kings Play It Safe or Take A Risk?
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@jimgarfinkel1090
@jimgarfinkel1090 2 ай бұрын
Probably can't get Mikal Bridges, but I'd make a run at him
@jet07son
@jet07son 2 ай бұрын
great show Matt !!!
@user-es3iv2xn1j
@user-es3iv2xn1j Ай бұрын
No never talk about Murray in a trade. We need to see his growth for one more year. He is a great balance for the team, not just for his skill but for his attitude in the locker room and on the court. We have Kevin and other players that we could make look good at the beginning of the year a bit to get better trade value and move them for someone because if Murray grows even 20% more and learns to balance out his energy from offense and defense so he doesn’t loose his shot he could be looked at as an all star in two more years and we don’t want to loose that.
@EccentricKnight
@EccentricKnight Ай бұрын
I’m a life long Wiz fan. Kuzma is solid on both ends. He’s improved at point forward & he is durable, hardly sits out. If you believe you can get Kyle Kuzma with the 13th pic in this year’s draft that’s a pipe dream🤷🏽‍♂️. There are other teams that are looking for his services in particular with his team, friendly contract. Two of which I’ve heard are rumored to offer up two first rounds. Detroit, San Antonio, OKC, Nuggets, Philly, Miami etc… All rumored to have Kuzma on their radar. In a stacked western conference, the kings need to be careful as it pertains to lowballing. Doesn’t matter who the player is they may find themselves trying to make the play-in tournament for the next several years.
@Facelessman276
@Facelessman276 Ай бұрын
Same thing we heard at the deadline. I’ll believe it when I see it.
@EccentricKnight
@EccentricKnight Ай бұрын
@@Facelessman276 Whether you believe it or not Kuz is still on our team & the Dallas Mavericks offered two low 1st round picks. The problem is teams always talk about what they want and what they need, but those teams don’t always factor in their potential trade partners wants & needs. If you don’t do that you’re wasting your time.
@Facelessman276
@Facelessman276 Ай бұрын
@@EccentricKnight 2 in the mid 20’s ain’t much better than 13. Let’s just see how it plays out. Our franchises aren’t exactly known for excellence. I do , however, like the moves your new leadership team has made thus far. There was definitely no quick fix but they’ve done a nice job cleaning things up to set the stage for a better future.
@EccentricKnight
@EccentricKnight Ай бұрын
@@Facelessman276 I hear you. I would agree if this years draft isn’t the worse in the past decade. However, the 13th pic is more like the 20th pick in this year‘s draft. Nonetheless, I believe Kuzma fits seamlessly into what you all need. His contract being very team friendly is a good trade for any team. He will also take pressure off of De’Aaron Fox at point forward.
@LockedOnKings
@LockedOnKings Ай бұрын
There's multiple reports out that the Wizards have been asking for 2 firsts since the deadline and nobody is interested. Because he's not worth that. The 13th pick may very well be amongst the best they will get.
@martinwilson8362
@martinwilson8362 2 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t want to trade Barnes in an Ingram trade because I’d want more quality depth at forward as part of the deal, particularly with Ingram’s injuries. Perhaps a big shooting guard might be more attractive to New Orleans, with their forward depth? Definitely no Barnes trade with Kuzma. A Kuzma trade could be a good one, but would have to be the right deal. Bridges doesn’t get you to a title window without forward depth, one of Sacramento’s biggest weaknesses. The Nets have Mikal playing SG, although he’d be a SF on the Kings. Trade Huerter, expiring contracts, and 3 1sts. The picks are what they’re going for if they’re rebuilding. What deal ‘can’ the Kings get? That’s the real question, as not all 3 teams will go for what the Kings offer. Resigning Brown should be priority #1 to getting to a championship window. Resigning Monk will certainly affect negotiations as well for other players.
@matthewyip8695
@matthewyip8695 Ай бұрын
I echo your comments everywhere.
@luckylawson6859
@luckylawson6859 2 ай бұрын
Not sure Murray for Bridges would make this team a contender. Just upgrading Murray's position is not the answer with more important holes in the team. I like the idea of adding Bridges, but only if he is added to our 3 core pieces of Fox, Domass, and Murray.
@WolfsDE
@WolfsDE 2 ай бұрын
Between the options of Kyle Kuzma or Brandon Ingram, I lean towards Ingram. I am not sure financially how the trade would work, so I am not right now going to put forth an idea. However, I do think it would involve Harrison Barnes and Kevin Huerter, possibly Davion Mitchell and the pick as well. Of which, I would have no issues with. I think the Kings have another solid backup point guard, keeping Malik Monk and adding Ingram would greatly improve the team. Playing it safe this off-season, is not an option if the Kings want to be a 50+ win team and make the playoffs, preferably with a very deep run. The Kings were good during the season. But have not gotten to greatness yet. Now, there are other players than Ingram, so one needs to keep an open mind. Hopefully, the Kings figure it out. I think Monte McNair and Mike Brown will figure out a game plan and execute it. If it can't be done for Ingram or Kuzma, then even though there is the injury risk with him, I turn to the Clippers and Paul George. The Kings need to add some of the offensive firepower back to the team. So whomever is added, I just hope that it is someone who is a game changer. Get that person and I think the guys who make up for the depth loss will want to come and play in Sacramento seeing a legit chance to compete for a title.
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
Exactly , Mike brown is a good coach , soon as our ownership decides to make moves to get better they will see how much better and consistent our team would be . Fox and sabonis need another piece or 2 along with keeping monk and Keegan taking a jump
@lmchankins
@lmchankins Ай бұрын
Just curious; why is EVERY sentence its own paragraph? 🤔
@jaybirdful
@jaybirdful Ай бұрын
Agree with everything said on this podcast literally, Ingram or Kuzma would be great 👍🏼! I just don’t think we land either without including Keegan (Barnes, Davion, Huerter and picks won’t do it)
@marknash6398
@marknash6398 2 ай бұрын
I can guarantee Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma neither one of those players want to come here
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
If our ownerhip fumbles this offseason again , vivek should sell the team he’s so clueless , are they scared to spend money ?
@freddixon1883
@freddixon1883 Ай бұрын
In Monte, we trust !!!
@dobingify3130
@dobingify3130 2 ай бұрын
it's better to trade inconsistent Barnes
@Ttay438
@Ttay438 2 ай бұрын
Ingram for sure
@badnewssourgrapes
@badnewssourgrapes 2 ай бұрын
Don't get your hopes up kings fan Monte doesn't seem to want to make a major move monte kinda scary in my mind he hasn't done nothing really since monk signing hope I'm wrong & I hope he makes a big splash I just don't see how also
@yourstatistacs
@yourstatistacs Ай бұрын
I gotta be honest, I love Keegan but if we could get Bridges.. its the kinda player I'd legitimately consider the trade for and if Monte pulled the trigger I wouldn't be mad at all. I think we need a serious shake up for this team if its not Bridges I'd risk the rental with Ingram. Personally don't think Kuzma is enough.
@G.Martinez916
@G.Martinez916 2 ай бұрын
None of those players will make kings better then any top teams in the west plus you need to pay them along with Fox,Sabonis, and Keegan will need to get paid at some point. I would rather them improve in the draft,trade up if there is a player they want to target
@zenecawll5677
@zenecawll5677 2 ай бұрын
Lmao the only team would’ve been Denver and they might lose KCP. The title is open now while fox/Sabonis are in there prime. Keegan should improve again and Ellis will be a lot better with an off season and minutes
@NOCALGooN916
@NOCALGooN916 2 ай бұрын
Don't have the time to wait on a prospect that helps u down the line we need talent rn and are an upgrade from barnes
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
Keegan going into his 3rd year should get better , fox and sabonis don’t got time to wait around for more player developments , we need solid talent around them NOW ! No more messing around go get Ingram , kuzma, see if you can sign Jarrett Allen
@G.Martinez916
@G.Martinez916 Ай бұрын
​@zenecawll5677 we've been waiting on Keegan for some time now maybe he is what he is just floats around most games with a couple 30+ point games a season
@zenecawll5677
@zenecawll5677 Ай бұрын
@@G.Martinez916 my guy it was his sophomore year relax he gets an A grade nobody expected him to be an all nba defender yet here we are. If anything Sabonis needs to become more aggressive as does Keegan
@lmchankins
@lmchankins Ай бұрын
So, who's going to be the player that gets this team in the 40 before 20 column? (40 wins before 20 losses) IMO, Ingram is a better fit because he doesn't have to carry the franchise and patches a lot more holes than Kuzma.
@kylebrown1581
@kylebrown1581 Ай бұрын
Pels fan here: you can have BI, but you have to include his stans as well. They are insufferable and I personally would like nothing better than to be rid of them! I like BI, but he’s not worth the $40 mil per. That might be the going rate, but I think most Pels fan feel we can get a better #2 with maybe Trae Young or Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen package. There is also Detroit where we can get Duren and maybe Ivey. Harrison Barnes is not a player we would want.
@dalt992
@dalt992 Ай бұрын
No way we get Ingram. Kuzma, maybe but we would have to give up a lot because a 15-win Washington team won't want Barnes and Lyles. Bridges is a longshot. I think the Kings are going to have a VERY VERY difficult time bringing any of those 3 players here. Especially without giving up Keegan.
@dubswilland
@dubswilland 2 ай бұрын
If the Pelis wanna win now how about a trade of Davion, Kevin, Barnes, and Lyles for Bi. They get a ton of depth and Bi wasn't play that much anyways for them
@novacain943
@novacain943 Ай бұрын
They not giving him away 😂😂😂
@dubswilland
@dubswilland Ай бұрын
@@novacain943 cool keep up with the missed potential
@novacain943
@novacain943 Ай бұрын
@dubswilland what? Theirs a reason you put them guys in a trade and the same reason the pelicans beat the kings 6 times this year, those guys you mentioned don't fit the pelicans needs
@matthewyip8695
@matthewyip8695 Ай бұрын
If i had to choose a player to target it would be Kyle kuzma Over Brandon Ingram. . Kyle is on the floor more. BI... Is a bucket .. but his $$ will be more than Kyle.
@swengross46
@swengross46 2 ай бұрын
Ingram all the way - not only the better player and fit but Washington not the best trading partner atm as they surely try to overvalue Kuzma
@eddiprosper4347
@eddiprosper4347 Ай бұрын
ZACH EDEY
@bryansandman2060
@bryansandman2060 2 ай бұрын
Go for BI
@babycakes9976
@babycakes9976 2 ай бұрын
GM messed up once again and should have traded Monk. Ingram isnt worth the next bag. Kuz doesn't fit a spray three. Brown would be on the hot seat.
@reedrodz75
@reedrodz75 2 ай бұрын
Kuzma hands down!
@mordecaidrake
@mordecaidrake 2 ай бұрын
We should go get kuzma... go get him, he will be locked up, and you still have flexibility to get whoever later, and have both players with the cap rise. Plus, if it doesn't work, you can get almost everything you spent back in trade.. we keep waiting for no reason, and if we make a pick, we waste another asset.. when we could be adding on top of him..this is silly. i would even throw a second or two on to have his valuable deal in my books, as it goes down for a player like that... Those are exactly the margin deals you want to exploit to build and win...it is primed for this team to take advantage of...just think about it then you would have Fox, hopefully Monk, kuzma, Keegan, Sabonis, / Ellis, Barnes, Lyles,len, and jones,( (i would try vezenkof again) gotta find a way to make a euro league mvp work) )and STILL be flexible to maybe add another really good player as you drop some more dead weight roster spots coming coming up.or need to move some of these bottom guys who aren't working.stop wasting time and assets...
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
Yea our ownership is clueless at times , idk wtf they trying to do . We have a home grown core and sabonis they should be adding as much talent around them as they can , scared to spend money
@mordecaidrake
@mordecaidrake 2 ай бұрын
​@SKOOBZTERZ scared to spend picks i think too... these are the kind of deals you want on your books...plus he fills desperate needs and you can get him for basically free if for some god forsaken reason it doesn't work... not doing this makes absolutely no sense even if you want another player 🤦
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
@@mordecaidrake I’m hoping they get aggressive this offseason , if they fumble again I would be so disappointed man … they need to take advantage of sabonis and fox prime years and Keegan growing ! Add some dawgs and keep monk we would get a lot better
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
@@mordecaidrake if they don’t make any significant moves this offseason vivek should just sell the team or Monte should be in the hot seat … what are we doing ?!
@mordecaidrake
@mordecaidrake 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@SKOOBZTERZ yep, only a couple years before sabonis hit 30 they are running out of time...i still think the kuzma deal is a smart because it allows for the addition of 2 quality players with his deal... you can still build heavy on top of him... especially if you drop a couple more dead weight players from the roster and more of these super teams that went for it fail into oblivion and players want out
@70ronin54
@70ronin54 Ай бұрын
The problem with both Kuzma and BI would be the same and they both are "as long as I get mine" players, neither would be willing to just fit in as a third or fourth option on offense and maybe if I feel like it on defense. Also I think a move like that would stunt if not almost halt Keegan's growth. Now on paper these moves look ok but if I think the risk out weighs the possible reward. Your wildcard is interesting but I think what the Kings would have to give up might be to high to justify (doesn't happen without Keegan). What about Rui Hachimura?
@mr2perfect
@mr2perfect Ай бұрын
Kris Middleton
@DanielTaylor-tz1rf
@DanielTaylor-tz1rf 2 ай бұрын
Let's go kuzma. I'd be ecstatic if we could get him.
@Adam-iz5kh
@Adam-iz5kh 2 ай бұрын
It won't really be that much of a game changer.
@user-es3iv2xn1j
@user-es3iv2xn1j Ай бұрын
So from what I hear around the league Ingrams head isn’t always present. Some nights he’s hungry and other nights he acts as if the game is an inconvenience to him. Kuzma is good but not great. Honestly I don’t want to make a trade just to make one. If we can’t keep monk then go for Kuzma as our six man. If we can keep Monk possibly still go for Kuzma for our six man but only with the first package you mentioned. I like your wild card but I don’t think we can get Bridges. If we can then yes. I also will be happy keeping everyone together again with the mindset of making Kevin look good and a couple other bench players look good to go for a mid season trade. After all the years of being on the bottom I want to get to the top while having the ability to fight to stay there for more than just one year. Remember we beat the top teams last year. We need to clean up our consistency and continue to grow. If monk didn’t get injured when he did we would have been in the playoffs and who knows what would have happened then.
@mikemitchell8219
@mikemitchell8219 2 ай бұрын
Ingram 100% but what happens if we get Ingram and kuzma and resign Monk
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
They should have already gotten kuzma what are we doing ?
@jameeltayyeb584
@jameeltayyeb584 2 ай бұрын
Go all in on M. Bridges. With like 4 first rounders
@DanielTaylor-tz1rf
@DanielTaylor-tz1rf 2 ай бұрын
Bridges is not worth that much, that's insane.
@robertwu8092
@robertwu8092 Ай бұрын
Pelicans fan here. The proposed trade wouldn't work because Pels' biggest needs are C and PG. How about Sabonis for BI and two firsts?
@novacain943
@novacain943 Ай бұрын
Pelicans want a defensive center, Sabonis is not that
@LockedOnKings
@LockedOnKings Ай бұрын
Lol I shouldn't even humor this comment with a response, but it's so laughable that I feel I need to. No shot in hell bub
@novacain943
@novacain943 Ай бұрын
@@LockedOnKings 🤣🤣🤣
@Chicks15
@Chicks15 Ай бұрын
STAND PAT!!!
@justinlinscheid4018
@justinlinscheid4018 Ай бұрын
No on Ingram. Guy hasn’t even played a full season. Too expensive for someone so unreliable. He did not show out in playoffs this year either. I’m for Kuzma without giving up current needed talent. Hang onto 1st round picks wherever possible.
@headhunterextracts5167
@headhunterextracts5167 2 ай бұрын
hot take; trade sabonis and fox and build around keegan
@SKOOBZTERZ
@SKOOBZTERZ 2 ай бұрын
If they don’t add any more talent around Fox and sabonis this offseason that’s maybe what they are planning
@andrewflores5504
@andrewflores5504 Ай бұрын
We traded away a young franchise lead guard in Halliburton to build around fox and sabonis, why would we move on from that core 2 years later?
@marknash6398
@marknash6398 2 ай бұрын
Matt Kyle Kuzma or Brandon Ingram neither one of those players makes sense. Jonas Valanciunas Sabonis Keegan Murray Jonathan Kuminga De’Aaron Fox Shasha Trey Lyles Chris Duarte Malik Monk Davion Mitchell Alex Len and Kessler Edwards
@FeIix916
@FeIix916 Ай бұрын
Ingram got SHUT DOWN and played horrible against Lu Dort and OKC. Why would we want him!!!!
@timw8664
@timw8664 2 ай бұрын
I would bet my house, that the kings wont get Bridges in a trade, when they not even shipping Murray to brooklyn. Like Matt said, 29 other team will chase Bridges aswell and im sure, that at least 10-12 teams can offer better packages for Bridges. Especially if the kings dont include Murray, they wont have any chance.
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