Let's hear your rendition!

@@JsWorldOfOpera, sorry, I retired from singing and teaching voice five years ago. That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. And I'm not the only one on this thread with this opinion.

@@JsWorldOfOperaEven those of us who can't sing have the right to an opinion about others who are professional singers. Come on. Anna has gone down, down, down.

I totally agree. Hard to imagine what Ponselle would say about this. "Shut it off! Shut it off!" would be my guess.

How would you compare Dom Pérignon champagne with kitchen Russian wine?! LOL

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@Keaton Aiden Instablaster ;)

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Vai tu a cantare, dai!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

E cosi. non si capisce nulla!!!!!

All'inizio, la voce c'era, e che voce. Ora: fa schifo. E la lirica? Colpa ai stronzi di registi che non ne sanno nulla, ne di voci, ne di musica! E scemi direttori di teatro! Triste!

Then yes, listen to Tebaldi!

@@operabilia I did. Twice. In the opera house. Una voce d'angelo. Tebaldi è accigliata dal cielo ascoltando il soprano russo. Orrore!

Ded

hahahaha:)

A Paradox 😂😂 and singing totally out of tune! I have only one question : why ROH post this?

A Paradox 🤣

And without any chest voice well developed.

Please don't insult the baritons

Absolutely!

Check gre brouwestein

Dont please. Maria Callas was not a perfect singer. If you want technique, search for leontyne price or Montserrat caballe in this role. Callas was good, but extremely overrated by fans and enthusiasts. She was like a movie star when alive, so a lot of people feel they are taken seriously for praising her. Searh for other many good singers, they are lots....

forgot to mention Aprile Millo! try her!

@@ChickenCastleQQ callas was everything not true at all best singers and conductors in the world praise Callas And she gave everything to opera you feel when she sings and early callas has best perfect

microphones dont distinguish yet....

Hahahahhahahahaha

From NO as in ZERO breath support. The airflow wasn’t strong enough or continuous enough to keep the airway open so the cords snapped close.

It might have also been from inflamed vocal folds from singing a role that is way too heavy for her.

YES! In her early days singing Il Barbieri and Ryuslan y Liudmilla she had a truly gorgeous sound, and her voice sounded much bigger than it does now. So sad.

James :: Anna Nebtreko ( some years ago ) :: _I know what I'm doing !_

Just listened to it. Very mediocre. She was pitchy and lacked some agility.

Shirley Verrett had a long, distinguished and varied career there's no comparison. Verrett's diction was always exemplary and she never had a wobble. Poor Anna what happened?

@@johnrondeau8500 Agreed. There is no comparison. Verrett was stellar. But she appears to have studied Verret's interpretation of this role.

John RONDEAU um...she became way too ambitious for her own good and started singing roles waaaaaay out of her fach.

c'mon, no opera lover thinks Bocelli is a great tenor - he's for the masses. and if he wasn't blind, he would have no career.

It is the bitonal seasick verdion

The second, first, and third pace's are horrifying, in that order.

ecco !!!😊

Such a stupid question... OMG. Do you really think you could hear her on youtube if there was no mike somewhere ? Oh my. these trolls... They don't even know the job.

Exactly. For it to become a video there has to be a mike somewhere. These folks are so full of hatred that they don’t even take a brake to think before writing some stupidity here. 😓

​ @LaFollissima @PedroGuida why are you so rude..? what is your problem? I was reffering to a mike she has on herself and not mike somewhere. Opera should be recorded with mikes in the room and not on a singer come on! it's clear that they are used to amplify the volume of the voice and not for recording reason, and if they do this it's not opera.

barberlove you are right, I’ve been rude in my comment. I’m sorry. I’ve heard Anna live many times and I’ve seen her rehearsing and performing in a concert hall where there was no sound equipment as there wasn’t any recording whatsoever. She has quite a big voice for a lyric and the color of her voice is very, very beautiful. She is not miked at all on this recording, instead there are mikes on the stage for the recording and if you notice these modern mikes they capture pretty much everything, so that’s why you can hear a lot.

If you used distant micing, people then would complain that they SEE THE MICS. Distant micing involves other audio problems such as phase cancellation. Dead spots, etc. The problem is not the mic. It is the mixing pholosophy.

Absolutely!

You are a genius.

Hahahahaha!!!

😂😂😂

the vibrato!!

ROFL! 😂

Verdi is beautiful, there is no doubt, but if you have a clue about singing you suffer.

Some people go to the opera for the full experience, other just to enjoy solely the singing. We need to go to the real definition of opera as an art form to understand both sides. Sometimes is better to be less "knowledgeable" to enjoy an opera performance.

juan jose dubal I believe it is the RoH musical director, Antonio Pappano, a monstrously overrated conductor.

@@karenupton3445 of course he is

@Crazy organist Forgive me in advance, please. I am ill. I was not wearing my glasses. I, plainly, have a dirty mind. But, I did smile at what I thought was both charming whimsy and refreshing honesty when I initially misread your moniker as: Crazy Onanist! For penance I will whisper one thousand Ave Marias. I shall also force myself to listen to all six minutes and 22 seconds of this post.

cashelnd NYT reviews of the Met since the mid 80s have never been critical. Most likely $$ involved I saw the recent Traviata with Damrau and JD Florez (it was a disgrace to the audience, to Verdi, to the art of opera) and the only criticism the NYT review did mention was that JD Florez was "hard to hear at times"...it was so bad that people next to me were asking if their hearing aids were turned up enough, Nezet-Seguin was actively quieting the orchestra to allow his notes to be heard and NYT made it seem like it was no big deal...THAT IS LITERALLY THEIR WHOLE JOB TO BE HEARD OVER THE ORCHESTRA IF THEY CANNOT BE HEARD OVER AN ORCHESTRA WITHOUT A MICROPHONE THEY ARE NOT OPERA SINGERS

That's why I didn't spend a single dime on NYT and any of its associated merchandise.

Unfortunately nowdays music critic basically doesn´t exist. It is included in payed PR. So they write what your agnecy or company pay to write. Just horrible.

It's the Times. You expect truth?

cashelnd the explanation is simple - lots of money

jonathon waetford The triumph of an excellent marketing and publicity juggernaut.

jonathon waetford money

@@karenupton3445 Exactly!

You're utterly deluded

Which level is that?

She is...!!!!

@@MaritinaTampakopoulos... That's terrible!.....

Jose Manuel Hernandez Yep.

Everyone is microphoned, otherwise you wouldn't get any sound at all. Think before you speak.

100%

She is a light, lyric and she pushed too much out of her Fach that is for sure.

@@soprano1176 she is a Full lyric. Not a light one. But yes I agree I think she's pushing her voice. If she just sang it with her natural voice it would be fine but.....

Está pesando demasiado su voz! Por qué, si su voz naturalmente es hermosa ! Mal hecho, en mi opinión.

the 4:30 minutes is sublime not even Callas o Caballe sings like that ,good for Anna ❤

You clearly have no ear for opera. May I suggest that you try Justin Bieber? I'm informed that he sounds great if you are tone-deaf.

​@@jackclaxton9524 You're obviously new to opera. May I suggest that you try Verrett or Caballe first not to mention Tebaldi, Callas, Corsi, Easton, Nilsson, Muzio, Krushelnicki? If you do it and still consider Mrs. Netrebko's "singing" a legitimate interpretation then you clearly are the one with "no ear for opera". Speaking of "tone-deaf" at 2:00 "pace mio DIO" - is singing eflat (instead of d which is written) and messing up the rest of the phrase also a part of her wonderful interpretation? Definitely it makes her "unique" among those wonderful sopranos of the past. Is it the factor that makes her "sound great"? Or maybe it's her knodel and hollow sound. Tell me. I'm really curious. Have a good day.

@@michelez3710 : I'm familiar with Verrett, Caballe et al. With the exception of Callas, I consider their performances either insipid or clinical to the point of detraction. There is no opera singer in the world that is on key 100% of the time. Indeed, off-pitch is a valuable part of interpretation. If you have a problem with this, then maybe you should rather listen to techno-music, where perfect pitch is ensured by electronics. I'd venture a guess that, if measured continuously over time, Callas was probably much more off-pitch than Netrebko. Anally retentive people such as you hounded Callas to death because of this. That there are people capable of much more sophisticated powers of discrimination than yours willing to have paid 7000 US$ for a single ticket to hear Netrebko sing this particular performance should perhaps encourage you to re-evaluate your competencies - which, frankly, says much more about you than about Netrebko. She will survive your criticism, no doubt.

​@@jackclaxton9524 You're absolutely right. Anna Netrebko possesses a wonderful talent, voice, taste and you can understand virtually every word she sings in Italian. ;) The singers I've previously mentioned are utterly tasteless and have no voice at all, especially Emilia Corsi, Claudia Muzio, Celestina Boninsegna, Salomea Krushelnitzka, Florence Easton. Composers and conductors like Puccini and Toscanini were cretins who worked with and promoted talentless, "insipid and clinical" pseudoartists like those singers mentioned above. The audience 100 years ago and back were completely dumb and incompetent, contrary to the audience nowadays. Ah! And they had no culture at all so they booed every good singer (like Netrebko, Kaufmann e la compagnia) and applauded the bad ones. Thanks god we got rid of that disgusting custom, so we can enjoy fantastic, talented people in silence (literally, as we don't hear singers anymore - we don't need to), without interference by those animals. Furthermore people in general had inferior taste to the one we have nowadays ie they dressed up in an absurd fashion, they built mostly ugly buildings (unlike today), they painted ugly pictures (unlike contemporary talented artists), they composed ugly and dull operas (unlike today's masterpieces - that is the reason why no theatres play those dumb operas any longer), they wrote poor literature for illiterate morons. Regarding your money argument: Back then nobody paid singers a penny for their horrible interpretations. They performed for free for the entertainment of those idiots. Finally someone spoke the truth about those disgusting "legends" of the past! Viva Netrebko! ;D

Jack Claxton Callas more off pitch than Netrebko? If Callas EVER sang anywhere CLOSE to this bad and off pitch in her entire career she would’ve been eaten alive, yet Netrebko gets a pass... why? What a joke...

Ja.....spinning!

Not to mention Maria Callas!!

Tebaldi? Rosa Ponselle just rolled out of her grave clear across the Atlantic to be next to and comfort Tebaldi.

Tebaldi was too gracious for that but there was surely some eye rolling in the audience. RO does such great productions generally then . . . there’s . . . THIS.

????what??? Ahhaha

пожалуйста, не будь таким глупым... piano... ты не слышал настоящего piano... эта версия отстой!!! слушай Леонтин Прайс, Кабалье, Каллас и не ту чушь...🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Hai dimenticato la grande Tebaldi unica grande Leonora!

Pourya azizi Sadly, so many opera ‘patrons’ couldn’t actually give a shit about opera. There are so many corporate boxes. They also don’t give a shit about opera. It’s simply an exercise in being seen in the opera house and, most particularly, at performances with the biggest names. These putzes would have no idea if Netrebko was supposed to sound like that. Most of them would not even notice if she sang her grocery list - and that not in a good way.

Covent Garden, once witnessed the like of Melba, Caruso, Destinn, Muzio, Tetrazzini, Flagstad, Melchior, Zanelli, Gigli, Callas, etc. now hosts this swine whose "singing" is unbearably vulgar (that is if you could understand a word from her mouth) and constantly off-pitch. Yes, this is blasphemy to art.

Urmana isn't that great either. Tebaldi is MUCH better than both.

Actually, nothing is for her... Netrebko is not an opera singer at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!

Add to this her recent Lohengrin. She is not a Wagnerian soprano either. She once had a beautiful voice, but it's gone.

This role requires a dramatic voice she is lyric soprano with no coloratura at all ,its a demanding role with very hight strong notes, she is singing like a mediocre mezzo soprano she has no stamina nore the voice no technique the is only noise coming through her mouth when she sings the dramatic repertoire, she had to stick to her lyric voice

@@maximillian6222 I agree with you entirely.

Indivioso eh??🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@michelegiovetti6678 Perché invidioso? Che cos'ha la Netrebko di buono qui?!

You are totally right

lol you are right :)

47 anni.

she is actually sharp most of the time. Probably just had an off day.

@@katharinahaberl3247 No, this is normal for her. Just bad.

Alex Lewis, my cat did a better job!

She had great natural potential, but--to me at least--she does not have the "heart" to be great. She's all show, no soul.

Dramatic voices do touch light repertoire, don't you worry.

@@arepo Yeah, those Lucias and Aminas Birgit sang... Unforgettable!

​@@davidvscalvim2836 Is this your benign sense of humor? If so, I appreciate it. If not, read further. Giuditta Pasta premiered La Sonnambula, and she was called a dramatic soprano in her day. She also premiered Norma and Anna Bolena. All three roles were written for her. Callas did sing all three roles too. Sutherland too, and a few others. Of course just singing them isn't the real deal, HOW you sing them is the real deal. testflight confuses dramatic bel canto voice with big verista or Wagner stomper with no agility. You too, if your comment was in earnest, which I hope it wasn't. Queen of the Night isn't the beginning and end of all operatic singing wisdom. Neither is is the beginning or end of operatic exhibitionism, but it is operatic exhibitionism all right. Actually Queen of the Night is very easy for a soprano with good agility and excellent extension (and the extension needed in Mozart's day was less than today because the orchestra was tuned more than a semitone lower.) The trouble with Queen-of-the-Night-sopranos is they seldom sing anything else equally good. So, if you want a exhibitionist Queen of the Night, no problem. If you want a versatile artist however, who can sing the late XVIII, the XIX and the early XX century repertoire...

Joan was a fabulous Micäela.

Is Tebaldi Caesar, and Anna Jesus? It's not that she's overall a horrible singer. Just not fit for singing this repertoire at all.

there are some moments of beauty, but most of the time, the sound is out-of-tune, wobbly, swallowed, and the Italian very unclear. Just think of how much the lady is being paid to sing like this? if you want to hear a good perfromance of this aria, try this - it's a good "ear-cleaner": kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM2mgtRovdLPeaM.html

Please God... give Tebaldi back to us! 😭

Elle est une soprano lyrique - et NON - dramatique ! Elle ne chantera jamais bien dans cette tessiture ;-(

Massimo I seriously, have you looked in the mirror, terrifying😱

The lady is 47 years old.

It's makeup

Even in that makeup Anna is beautiful. 🤩🤩🤩🤩

Number one in the hall of the worst 'Pace, pace mio dio's ever sung

Jajajaj....no

@@naimemez739 Jejeje... Claro que sí...

Milanov, Callas!

And Rosa Ponselle!

Please, no!!!!

@@michelegiovetti6678 Perché no? Renata Tebaldi è moooolto più brava della Netrebko. Ma se non vuoi la Tebaldi ci sono Rosa Ponselle, Maria Callas, Anita Cerquetti, Montserrat Caballè, Mirella Freni... Ce n'è tanta di scelta.

​@@xxsaruman82xx87 la Callas non mai stata un granché nella Forza del destino...

£250 plus in the stalls.

She was probably not feeling great that day. If you're a singer yourself, you know how hard it is to cancel engagements like that :) and a professional musician deserves to get paid - if a guy in an office has a bad day - they also still get paid ;) remember that.

@@katharinahaberl3247 But she doesn't really ever sound good in anything.

She was once a very good artist (remember that extraordinary Salzburg Traviata for example). She then started getting momentum because (a) we have been facing a shortage of good sopranos for the last 25 years and (b) in the beginning she was very humble in interviews and looked pretty. This has made her a very overrated singer.

@@LordMgls No, she was never good. She's just gotten a whole lot worse.

Renata.. Caballe.. 😍😍 ohh man

Callas

I listen again and I think I was unfair. Far from horrible. A small mistakes.

@@arrassip Get your Beltone tuned. This was bad.

Ponselle singing with laryngitis into a squashed flugelhorn in a cave with a hood on while chewing a caramel would still be state of the art here.

Absolutely!

Well why don't you listen to Saioa Hernandez sing the same role

Huh? If the singer is not singing to me...then who are they sing to?

close your eyes and just listen to this a few times and compare with above. This is Leontyne Price in 1964-5 - in her prime in one of her great roles. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebyWe9SB0bfHeZ8.html

and this one, as well. Renata Tebaldi, who was also very associated with this role. this is a live performance from Florence in 1953. Great singing of the highest order - with a great conductor. Have fun. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpZ8isKm1ty0nHU.html

You have to start with the right pitch and a natural vibrato-not one that is so wide that the pitch varies on the note. She’s placing her voice in the throat to make it bigger and more dramatic, but it has completely lost ease and luster-two hallmarks of a great soprano. I agree to the others. Listen to young Leontyne Price (1960s) a few times and compare/contrast. It will help train your ear for Opera sung properly.

@@SteveL2012 Thank you - really appreciate it!

Completely agree! This was simply abysmal in every respect.

Fritz you are so right unfortunately...

contraltissima Say what you like about her voice, but this was not miked, other than for the live recording. I was there on the night of this performance and for three other performances during the run, and none of the performers were ever miked. The ROH never allows miking, in fact I know of another very famous singer that no longer sings at ROH as they refuse to mic her. Anna’s voice definitely has imperfections but she has this amazing presence, and on the night her voice soared to the top of the house and sounded incredible..... she brought the house down.

PamelaFlitton Pray do tell, I imagine it’s either Gheorghiu or Bartoli?

LaDivinaLover I couldn’t possibly reveal! But just let me say that Gheorghiu still performs regularly at ROH so it is not her 😉

Anna Bolena is a largely exposed role with a much smaller orchestra than anything Verdi wrote. When she's not singing in the back of her throat, she's got a coloratura voice that would work well in those bel canto roles. I'd point you to a better comparison of some audience recorded live videos of her singing over larger orchestras - totally inaudible.

@@spencerwinellcomposer yes please send some links! I still find it difficult to believe... But yes you're right, Verdi (especially the late one) and Donizetti are not the same.

@@CriticaLxThoughX kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f85pmNeku7Ocfpc.html Skip to 1:40 of that video for an example

Zurich has strange accoustics. The singers are extremely dominating there in accoustic terms. Music and voices sometimes don´t mix.

🤣😭

Peter Brodie another nobody that can’t make it in life trying to get attention. If you don’t like the way she sings why are you here listening to her. She doesn’t need you and her fans could care less what you have to say. She’s the best and she always will be and she’s a great person. Who has ever said that about you, I’m guessing no one thats why you’re criticizing her.

Peter Brodie Is that your real picture. You have much bigger problems than Anna. Work on yourself it’s 2019 caveman.

laura DeMilio, your personal remarks do you no favours. If you're able to enjoy off-key singing, lucky you! But being spiteful towards people who voice their distaste won't make you any happier. That's all I have to say to you.

Peter Brodie Did I hurt your feelings?? Too bad so sad!! “I avoid her at all costs”. You aren’t rude leaving that comment. You’re ugly on the inside as well as the outside.

@@laurademilio4475 I know, from previous experience, that there is no point in stating this, but your heroine-worship is as tiresome as it is ill-directed.

Still impressive that she can lighten the voice up

The audience have every right to judge her voice. We're supposed to do that. Not being to sing as well as her doesn't mean we have keep silence and let her horrifying voice destroys opera. It's you who needs to shut the f up and get outta here.

Bravo!!!!!!!!!!