The Truth About SLES, PEGs and 1,4-Dioxane in Your Beauty Products (AD)

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2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever noticed that SLES is rated worse in clean beauty apps than SLS? What's with that? It's an interesting tale about a technology that's so useful it's everywhere, but most people have never heard of it, and it's kind of linked to drinking water contamination.
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In this video:
1:01 Ethoxylation is talented, brilliant, incredible...
4:01 1,4-dioxane is... not
4:57 1,4-dioxane in your beauty products
6:58 1,4-dioxane in your freaking water supply
7:59 Where does it come from?
10:29 I make a bunch of predictions, we'll see how that goes
Sources:
www.epa.gov/sites/default/fil...
ec.europa.eu/health/scientifi...
doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2...
doi.org/10.1016/j.coesh.2019....
www.epa.gov/sites/default/fil...
www.fda.gov/cosmetics/potenti...
14d-1.itrcweb.org/history-of-...
O'Lenick, AJ, Jr, Surfactants: Strategic Personal Care Ingredients, 2014
www.happi.com/contents/view_o...
Prof Ricardo Diez has also done some really fantastic talks on ethoxylated substances and the history of the fearmongering behind them - his talk at ‪@TheEcoWell‬ Sustainable Beauty E-Summit is here: • Industry misconception...
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@alyssagriffin5781 2 жыл бұрын

As a Masters Chemist, that works as an engineer, I ADORE WATCHING THESE VIDEOS. Chemistry makes me 😁

@littlequail4444 2 жыл бұрын

i work as an environmental chemical analyst and, although i dont know much about beauty products, i test groundwater, drinking water, and waste water *specifically* for 1,4-dioxane so im pleased to see someone bringing attention to it! i wasnt aware of the connection of it to the manufacturing of beauty products but it makes total sense.

@valumtimes 2 жыл бұрын

This is just a general problem of naturalism fallacy in skincare & medicine, but it sincerely bothers me how many brands equate the gentleness to its naturalness. As I have a connective tissue disorder, my skin is delicate enough that I have to be EXTREMELY careful about surfactants and exfoliation. SLS in toothpaste really damaged my mouth with the constant sores it caused. Controlling for that sensitivity is so, so hard when a lot of companies will use things as harsh as SLS, but shrug and call it a day because it's 1. natural, and 2. technically SLS-free. Really made it hard to figure out what good skincare looked like for me when starting out, too.

@10000pears 2 жыл бұрын

great breakdown of what is going on! for once there's actually some real cause for concern, but these ewg/clean beauty/"chemicals are scary" people will put stuff like this alongside "aluminum in antiperspirant causes cancer" and other non-issues and make it harder to discern the actual harm

@Fjaloeat1 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Margaret Thatcher was an extremely instrumental part of the success of the Montreal protocol. She was a chemist before she entered politics. Her background in science made her aware of how important the protection of the Ozone was. She used her position as an unequivocal conservative to convince other conservative world leaders (like President Reagan) that ozone protection was a worthwhile investment.

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, am I suddenly a Thatcher fan??? 😳 (No) (But thank you for the interesting info!)

@blueorchid9455 2 жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience def interesting and also very still not a fan too. hardly can be, I'm from Argentina after all lol.

@sr0917 2 жыл бұрын

Self preservation - not quite as interested in the English working class. And then the Malvinas. . . .

@eee3400 Жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience don't need to stretch yourself to be a Thatcher fan. The success of the Montreal protocol was likely more due to the support of Dupont, the producer of CFC's. Initially, Dupont was opposed to the treaty, but changed its position when it developed a replacement refrigerant and realized that banning CFC's would provide it with a captive market.

@bennydreamly Жыл бұрын

Wow that’s cool

@BeckyStern 2 жыл бұрын

I love how you explain things in great detail but also in an easy-to-understand way. And your sense of humor-- "a great xmas present for me" 😆

@tina_maria_ 2 жыл бұрын

As always, incredibly schooled by you. This is such a great video and you broke it down perfectly. Thank you! This was incredibly valuable!

@Micas7920 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You so much for your work in producing relevant content.

@lainarkou 2 ай бұрын

Your videos are always greatly presented and packed with info. You go girl!

@SaucerJess 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video! I so appreciate how you break down everything to make it make sense. You are a phenomenal science communicator and teacher. Thank you for all you do! 💚

@nancykerrigan 2 жыл бұрын

"If you're in a country that uses real numbers," the shade of it all. 😆

@ladygem 2 жыл бұрын

I got that…but I didn’t understand it

@davidsotir4318 2 жыл бұрын

@@ladygem The metric system is the only one that makes logical sense. We use metric in Australia :)

@ortik4 2 жыл бұрын

Loved that sentence so much! And loved your Latrice Royale quotes too!

@SRPDunn 2 жыл бұрын

As opposed to being in a country that's landed a man on the moon?

@Vivi-ux4wg 2 жыл бұрын

@@SRPDunn NASA uses the metric system

@d.boogie3691 2 жыл бұрын

I have followed your channel for a while, I like your scienced based approach, it has made me less fearful of everyday products and more informed as a consumer. Thanks!

@danasaywhat_43 2 жыл бұрын

I learn more from this channel than anywhere else. Thank you for all that you do! I really appreciate the way you break things down for those of us who weren't chemistry majors but enjoy learning ❤️ We need to get this channel up to a million subscribers!

@annahuffman6613 2 жыл бұрын

Always love how Michelle puts things into perspective and really gives us actionable answers as to where our concerns should be focused

@BelleStreetBoyz 2 жыл бұрын

This was so interesting!! I love this type of content. Thank you for sharing! 😁🌻🦋✨

@rehabriyadh5706 Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏 that's so helpful i'm really enjoyed ❤

@marypierce207 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. I learned so much. Thank you .

@youtube_user9110 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, Croda sponsorship! As a chemist i learn a lot in your channel. I worked with alkylcellobiosides, they are so useful for sindets and baby products.

@tyresseferguson2462 2 жыл бұрын

I lobe your videos, they are very informative.

@mimimoon6082 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reviewing Michelle! Keep these videos coming! 🤩❤️

@konstancja74 2 жыл бұрын

I love the science part of your videos!

@awkwardgenxer1023 2 жыл бұрын

My allergies are so irritating that I am willing to take a little risk for a gentler effect. For me SLES takes about five days used daily to give me a rash whereas SLS gives immediate burning irritation. I have never noticed any other “eth” ingredients irritating me. But I sure don’t want to be contaminating water, better clean up those industrial sites.

@wednesdayophelia 21 күн бұрын

I appreciate someone else bringing allergies to this conversation because somehow that aspect always gets overlooked.

@no3ll388 2 жыл бұрын

I’d be very interested in your opinion on polyethylene vs Polyethylene glycol ingredients and the effect on the environment. Especially PEG and micro plastics. I work in textiles and understand the effect of some different polymers and polyethers used in textile manufacturing and would be curious to see how similar it is for some of the similar “plastics” in cosmetics and skincare. Edit: ok just got to that part of the video about water sources, Interesting and thanks for always linking sources!

@GiovannaIwishyou 2 жыл бұрын

Lauryl caused me to get aphthae in my mouth. Once I started to use toothpaste without it, I never got any again.

@jayedwardsuk5984 2 жыл бұрын

Great Vid!! It would be cool to see a Butylene Glycol and Propylene Glycol irritation video how and why ..

@quintecence 2 жыл бұрын

I've had to work with dioxane a few times in my research and I have to say, it's not very high up on my solvent rankings..

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's really been riding on the coattails of chlorinated solvents which are actually amazing property-wise (and terrible environmentally)

@word6344 Жыл бұрын

What do your solvent rankings look like?

@martyna7058 2 жыл бұрын

SLS and SLES aren't horrible, for most people.... my skin is extremely sensitive to it and it loves to trigger my psoriasis on the scalp (bye bye 90% of shampoos...). Sad times. It's a shame, cause I'd love to try Ordinary's new sulphate shampoo!!!

@simonsaysism 2 жыл бұрын

I found the new Ordinary shampoo to be nothing special, so rest assured you're not missing out.

@LauraDelcea 2 жыл бұрын

I LOooooVE watching your vids! ❤️

@Pantothenic 2 жыл бұрын

love your videos, so informative!

@loriwht 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate your research and time on these topics.

@dekalogue 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@birdybird1865 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video and this channel! I hope some time you can do a video on lack of preservatives in certain skincare prodcuts. There are several products I've been thinking of trying and that I've seen recommended by both estheticians and dermatologists (such as the Purito Dermide Sleeping Pack) that seem to lack effective preservatives on their ingredient lists - are these products safe to use? I would really love it if someone like you could help clarify this.

@Noreen_Ni_Riain 2 жыл бұрын

love the video! I was wondering why you reuploaded it though?

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

I uploaded a version that I didn't check properly, found some editing errors at the last minute, thought I unscheduled it, did not actually unschedule it, so it went up 🤦🏻‍♀️

@AnthonyLago 2 жыл бұрын

Don't know what I did to have my comment deleted but I love this channel and your expertise. That is why I came to you with my apprehension on using a certain product. I will refrain from commenting on your videos in this future but just wanted to let you know how much your channel rocks.

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

I have no idea, I haven't deleted any comments on this video, and I don't remember deleting any comments from you! Sometimes KZfaq comments get held for review if they have certain words or contain links, but sometimes they just disappear into the ether for no apparent reason 🤷🏻‍♀️

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

And thank you! 🥰🥰🥰

@Dusty.Spinster 2 жыл бұрын

I have a question on new ingredients. Who researches these ingredients? I've noticed the active ingredients in a lot of household products were originally invented by huge chemical companies like PPG or DuPont. I'm wondering if the same parallels exists in skincare. Thanks!

@noneofurbusiness5223 2 жыл бұрын

I remember Bill Moyers talking about all these chemicals produced & USED w/o testing! Very depressing 😕

@minutesofskincare399 2 жыл бұрын

I love these infos 🧐

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! ^_^

@3lla387 2 жыл бұрын

Very important subject

@michellelee644 2 жыл бұрын

Love these videos Michelle! Would you do a video on PFAS in skincare products and beauty products?

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

I've been working on one but it's a very complex topic! Jen of The Eco Well did a podcast on PFAS recently though: podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-pfas-101-with-kc-hyland-ph-d/id1326225706?i=1000557476358

@ABroadSpectrumLLC 2 жыл бұрын

When you are getting your lab muffin fix in a queue so you dont see the thumbnail, and then you find out shes talking about where you live!! 😭

@mszina22 2 жыл бұрын

Will you please discuss the chemicals like Sodium Lauryl and Laureth Sulfate and Ammonium Lauryl and Laureth Sulfate that can cause nitrosamine contamination in conjunction with a secondary or tertiary amine like Sodium PCA?

@Rise2392 2 жыл бұрын

Hey love, I was hoping you could make a video on how to prevent UVA rays from entering through window glass in houses. What suggestions could you recommend? Example: maybe UVA protection curtains or tinted glass? Thanks so much 😊💜

@TheNarcoticMonkey 2 жыл бұрын

I think she did a video on uva rays & window glass in houses. You should use the search box on her channel. :)

@Michellee970 2 жыл бұрын

You are AMAZING! Thank you so much!

@sofiahagia 2 жыл бұрын

Industry, and old sins are very often the culprit! Good ecotoxicolgical point.

@ZephyrLily-ry1el 2 жыл бұрын

You are brilliant! Thank you for explaining the politics too ❤️

@luckyDancer100 2 жыл бұрын

Any chance you can also do a video on phthalates? I keep hearing about them, but can’t tell if it’s legitimate or just fear-mongering.

@khalilahd. 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review! I never know the difference between things like this so it’s super helpful to get a clear definition 💛

@SoundsSubliminals 2 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about perfume and body spray? I want to wear perfume and body spray but I read it can cause birth defects and cancer is this true? Are there any perfumes or body sprays you would recommend or any that you wouldn’t recommend?

@margarethamilton1562 2 жыл бұрын

Are these in classic bar soaps ex. Castle or Marseilles soap, olive oil.based soap , or glycerin soaps? ,

@natukundamercy5049 2 жыл бұрын

Not related but in dire need of a video about applying chemical sunscreen before or after moisturizer

@YangLoves 2 жыл бұрын

always after. the sunscreen needs to form a film on your skin.

@MASpiroShadowWoods 2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad I found you and so sad it took me so long #scicomm #beautyscience

@peaceandlove2014 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve lived in Long Island my whole life, which will be 30 years soon. And I was always told that the tap water was safe to drink, so have my whole life, unfiltered. And now I learn I have apparently been drinking a possible carcinogen that whole time. Oops lol oh well 🤷‍♀️

@margarethamilton1562 2 жыл бұрын

I grew up there. We were taught vin 1965 that Long Island had artesian well water which was naturally filtered. Two years ago I saw a PBS,Weekend News hour on the water in the USA. Their example of bad L.I. However remember there's fresh water upstate and the Hudson River was a ness. If you buy Casino bottled water it is bottled by Coca Cola from the Atlanta,tap water. The ingredients to "filter" it are banned, as is Fasani, in the UK.

@noronahahaha 2 жыл бұрын

When cosmetic/self-care products are created, how is the 1,4-dioxane minimized? Is it separated out after the ethoxylation, and becomes waste, or is the creation of it somehow reduced? Seems like you might be saying that the low presence of the contaminant in our product compares favorably to other industries but I’m wondering if there’s still some by-product during the manufacture of cosmetics/self care products that are still in the blind spot.

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

It's both, I mentioned it in the reduction part. Removal is done by vacuum stripping, so it can be disposed of in a controlled way.

@noronahahaha 2 жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience gotcha, must have missed it!

@soniakouma6344 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe i misunderstood something with the numbers and the quantity but if you take the 1/3 of the cup (which you mentioned is the equivalent that we need to consume to contaminate water) is perfectly doable in a house of 4 with all of them showering washing hair and brushing teeth every day....

@DavidCruickshank 2 жыл бұрын

That was per person, so a family of 4 would use 4 times that amount. So 1 and 1/3 cups for the whole household of 4 people.

@kuritheking 4 ай бұрын

Biodegradable or recyclable makeup packaging

@wehttamsetneuf1360 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! You mentioned "Long Island"... that's where I live!...but it was about our environmental problems😬 yikes. Love from Long Island anyway! 👍😅

@marln2157 2 жыл бұрын

loved this! (and your "real numbers" joke was on point :D)

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

The never-ending frustration for me, as someone who makes content that often requires numbers for people in the US as well as everywhere else 🥲

@erinstorie1675 2 жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience We appreciate you translating it into fake numbers!

@NB-lx6gz 2 жыл бұрын

SLS is sent from hell. Fucks up my skin like nothing else out there

@TheNarcoticMonkey 2 жыл бұрын

Same! My skin is always tight and dry if I use a SLS or SLES cleanser. No thank you ma'am.

@rosemary5005 2 жыл бұрын

I have absolutely nothing against SLS in a cleanser. There are good cleansers that has SLS in them.

@sabinajoh 2 жыл бұрын

My skin and hair dries out pretty easily and especially when I use sls, so I prefer less harsh surfactants

@rosemary5005 2 жыл бұрын

@@sabinajoh well, that’s you and loud are the voices against SLS. We hear, we hear. But there are also people who don’t mind them. And we’re often forgotten.

@flamingomua 2 жыл бұрын

@@sabinajoh same here!

@TaliaOutwrong 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I’ve got those off-target dimerisation flashbacks, relatable problems!!

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

I feel your pain - I spent a fair bit of my PhD trying to make slightly strained heterocycles and there was always a dimer peak in my LCMS traces 😩

@aarontheabc 2 жыл бұрын

❤️👏

@katd5676 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re in a country that uses real numbers THE SHAAAAAAADE

@flamingomua 2 жыл бұрын

But the facial cleansers with SLS dry my skin a lot and the ones without it works amazing. There are so many brands out there that formulate cleaners without SLS and they work really well cleaning up dirt etc.

@wallycola5653 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't this uploaded yesterday?

@NO-yh2sw 2 жыл бұрын

i also thought so

@KukiDoDo 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I saw it too. And the video title was “Why” it was weird so I remember.

@kagitsune 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe she had to re-upload

@alessialing7848 2 жыл бұрын

yes, it was taken down and re-uploaded today. youtube can often be really annoying and there was probably a complication with how it was uploaded that caused michelle to have to upload it again!

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was my fault, I thought I changed the time it was mean to go up but I failed 🤦🏻‍♀️

@riannonadams4154 2 жыл бұрын

"real numbers" cracked me up as an American in a house of South Africans that use kms, 24 hour time, mls, and dd/mm/yyyy.

@BartekKowalski-qi4rj 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@emily_toots 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! I'm sorry if you already talked about this, or if it's not a good idea, and I know you have a million topic suggestions, BUT I would love to hear from your perspective what being adequately hydrated does for your skin! I've heard that it's a myth or that the science is unclear, even though I can personally attest that drinking water helps my skin drastically, and many people swear by it. I had never heard that water helped my skin health, I just organically noticed the benefit. Would love to hear some science about it! Thanks :)

@kuritheking 4 ай бұрын

Well, does anyone care about the hormonal effects of having to over treat our water?

@chloeswigs3680 2 жыл бұрын

you say read the ingredient list, well there is no governing body for accountability, no regulation as to the quality, age, or amount of the ingredients in these products

@withsoleil 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure I've watched this video 1-2 days ago. Am I having a deja vu?

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

I accidentally uploaded an old version with some editing errors and let it go live 🤦🏻‍♀️ Just standard Michelle things, sorry!

@withsoleil 2 жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience ohh, thank you for confirming.for one second I thought I became a medium.

@saturnine405 2 жыл бұрын

Great educational video, as always, but I wanted to point out that “beauty industry does good things without specific regulations” is not a good enough argument. Free markets fail us when it comes to environmental and health&safety issues, and advocating for less regulation is definitely not the way to go about it.

@ajamesu 2 жыл бұрын

At the same time, lawmakers don't always make the most informed decisions. Some laws are made for expediency, or as Michelle mentioned, to signal that action is being done, but either without enough teeth to the language or based on shoddy science (case in point, the Hawaii ban on certain sunscreen filters). Sometimes, especially with laws, it's better to move slowly with more caution than to start running in the opposite direction too quickly.

@saturnine405 2 жыл бұрын

@@ajamesu That’s not what I said though. I completely agree with her point of demanding better and more informed regulations, as well as analyzing the results. But implying that the beauty industry will do right without regulations is a harmful rhetoric for consumers.

@vahagn8121 2 жыл бұрын

especially when the video is sponsored by chemicals supplier company

@bleachedeyeballs5334 2 жыл бұрын

@@saturnine405 Came here to say the exact same thing. Was beginning to think no one else realized that.

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

The point is for the cosmetics industry, they're rarely putting dangerous ingredients into products as the clean beauty industry would have you think. Dangerous cosmetics are the exception rather than the rule, because US law does require that cosmetics need to be safe, which has been interpreted to mean that the US and the EU have very similar guidelines. It's usually small companies that don't understand the guidelines that end up putting out dangerous products, if you look at recall lists. While I would welcome clearer regulation that would make it easier for indie brands to follow the rules, there's a general rhetoric that if the US switched from flexible regulation to the exact same regulations as the EU (which is just more explicit), there would be safer products, when in reality, the actual products would barely change, because US products largely follow the same regulations as the EU (apart from sunscreen, but that's a separate rant). I also think the real issue in all regions is that we need better enforcement rather than necessarily more legislation.

@SaucerJess 2 жыл бұрын

💚🥰👩‍🔬🥰💚

@Julzableful 2 жыл бұрын

'If youre in a country that uses real numbers' heheh very cute

@zd5116 2 жыл бұрын

Please start a lab muffin skincare line. It's becoming increasingly harder to find a good clarifying shampoo because of all the good ones are replacing SLS's with some gentle crap that doesn't cleanse as well as SLS

@saschamayer4050 2 жыл бұрын

12:45

@shuchko 2 жыл бұрын

Correction: dioxane is not added to anything anymore intentionally: polyurethanes, PET, eo solvents, protection paints can have traces of dioxane, same reasons like cosmetics. Plastics like PE, HDPE, PP cannot have dioxane. Water purification: new membrane purification systems using MBR technology can eat dioxane, but this will come in decades to developing world. As for more sustainable products, well then, lets say i still stick to my synthetic products till speciality membranes hit chemical and cosmetic industry.

@elsa407 2 жыл бұрын

If i had option to choose products without these chemicals i would definitely do that though.The older i grow the more i realise the importance of Health!

@itsgonnabeanaurfromme 2 жыл бұрын

We all know the importance of health. The point is that these products are not actually harmful. What's harmful is ignorance and stupidity and thinking you're being healthy when avoiding products that aren't toxic.

@ApteraEV2024 10 ай бұрын

Hey Miss Muffit, did you check under your curtai?❤ 💋 thanks for Sharing. FACTS, i want to Post to my.. X🐦 (for a Follow up.)..also.). I'm a Partial Proactivist..

@sdb8478 2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure there was a time when a bunch of people considered the serious health concerns around arsenic and lead in makeup, “fear-mongering”, the buzzword of the year.

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

Science has progressed a long way in the last 400 years...

@sdb8478 2 жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience And I bet in the next 400 years people will look back on the health/cosmetic products we use now and laugh in astonishment

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

@@sdb8478 And you think we won't laugh about the ridiculous things we fearmonger about? 400 years ago people were scared of your soul escaping when you sneezed...

@sdb8478 2 жыл бұрын

@@LabMuffinBeautyScience It seems “AD” is short for “towing the company line”

@quintonwilson8565 2 жыл бұрын

Ingredient dirtiness and skin harshness have nothing to do with each other--not sure why you're tying them together. No need to imply EWG is bad and based on pseudoscience. It gives a range of 1-3 for SLES and 1-2 for SLS (the score being based on a few variables). Considering that not all sources of SLES will be of great quality and that even the best have some dioxane, that's an amazing score. If animal studies show a carcinogen potential, that's enough for me and should be enough for everyone--though it's not correlative 100% of the time. Why? Proving a carcinogenic potential in humans is likely thousands of times more expensive, laborious, and far more difficult. That said, I'm not sure what concentrations were used for these animal studies; I use ethoxylated compounds all the time.

@LabMuffinBeautyScience 2 жыл бұрын

The EWG have a reputation for being pseudoscientific for a lot of other reasons - see e.g. www.agdaily.com/insights/dirty-deception-ewg-dirty-dozen/ www.theecowell.com/blog/a-case-against-the-ewg kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdGHi5VyvbTZqJs.html Peanuts are carcinogenic in both animals and humans, so is sunlight - a zero tolerance approach to carcinogens is pretty unnecessary. You can take that route of course, but saying it "should be enough for everyone" is just silly.