Labour reshuffle: why did Keir Starmer demote Lisa Nandy?

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11 ай бұрын

Angela Rayner up, Lisa Nandy down - what’s motivated the moves in Keir Starmer’s shadow cabinet reshuffle this week and what does this tell us about the direction of the Labour Party if they win the next general election?
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@JohnnyCameo 11 ай бұрын

A passing thought… it’s a pity that a move to shadow International Development is even seen as a “massive demotion”. In a world of increasing tensions, mass movement of refugees, realigning power structures, etc. International Development should be seen as both a humanitarian imperative and an opportunity to project soft power and influence to mutual benefit. Good luck to Lisa Nandy in re-establishing this as an important post deserving of full cabinet status in the next Labour government.

@aanchaallllllll 11 ай бұрын

0:39: 📉 Lisa Nandy has been demoted by Keir Starmer in the recent Labour reshuffle, with Angela Rayner taking over her role as Shadow Leveling Up Secretary. 2:10: 📺 The video discusses the appointment of Liz Truss as the UK's Foreign Secretary and the significance of the 'leveling up' agenda for the Conservative Party and Labour Party. 4:28: 📢 The video discusses the speculation around Lisa Nandy being disloyal and whether it led to her being dropped from her post in the Labour Party. 6:07: 📜 The Labour Party has combined their Devolution package and Green Prosperity plan to address regional inequality. 8:08: 📰 Pam McFadden is a well-respected figure within the Labour Party, known for his Blairite background, and is expected to take on a managing director-style role in the cabinet if Labour comes into power. Recap by Tammy AI

@ambition112 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing it! Saving my time with useful time stamps! where you get this AI summary tool Tammy AI??

@Madkid73 11 ай бұрын

Not being Nandy’s biggest fan, she was at least one of the few MPs raising awareness of the Leasehold scandal. I just hope Rayner takes that on.

@alice1374 11 ай бұрын

Rayner is the last one there which has a possibility of bringing the left back. So one can hope she takes it on. (Yes I'm aware labour is very much slippery labour now after the turn rightwards)

@lordhenrywotton95 11 ай бұрын

Angela Rayner is good at getting stuck into the Tories and has cut through to people who aren’t typically engaged in politics. As long as she is on top of the detail of this brief, it’s an area which really suits her abilities.

@stevebbuk9557 11 ай бұрын

She has very little ability on mastering a brief. She's there as window dressing, to quote former Labour MP Caroline Flint's phrase.@@lordhenrywotton95

@kieranoconnor4334 11 ай бұрын

Poll ratings are not up because of Starmer.......important point to be stated.

@chrcoluk 11 ай бұрын

Keir supports wont ever admit that, whats happening on the polls is reactionary to what the government is doing. I think Lisa was just too left for Keir to stomach,

@colinbrookes8625 11 ай бұрын

In a sea of soundbites and woeful political journalism in the media, how truly refreshing to listen quietly to thought-provoking, stimulating Professional journalists discuss the evolving situation in the Shadow Cabinet. I will look out for more such videos from Rachel, Freddie and Zoe. Thank you.

@jimschannel2220 11 ай бұрын

Levelling up without resources is a political trap for Rayner.

@spartacusforlife1508 11 ай бұрын

I think you could say that for any Labour minister if the party wins the election

@user-zr1ry3gm2i 11 ай бұрын

Levelling up is not a real thing. Its a gimmick the Tories dreamed up and Starmer and his mates have fell for it! Levelling up my Jim Royle!!!!!

@jean6872 11 ай бұрын

@@user-zr1ry3gm2i Leveling Up to what? It is a way of saying the very wealthy should not be brought down to the level of the working class by having to pay more tax and instead the working class can be brought up to the income, security, and opportunity of upper middle class citizens by making capitalism work.

@kicorse 11 ай бұрын

It would be pathetic if this is factionalism, but it's hard to see how Nandy would accept the demotion if that's the case. She doesn't belong to a faction, and is one of the few MPs who uses her conscience on individual issues rather than just following received wisdom from any faction. It would be very worrying if Starmer wanted to eradicate that from cabinet. But it's true that, having been arguably the best media performer up till a year or so ago, she has been quiet recently. It could be that she has her own reasons for needing a less high profile role for a while. I hope that's it anyway, because if not, the anti-Starmer brigade would be proven right.

@lordhenrywotton95 11 ай бұрын

Surely that makes Nandy ideal for foreign aid, especially if Starmer plans to re-establish it as an independent department.

@martinwatson9615 11 ай бұрын

She hasn’t made this move for any reasons of her own. Nobody thinks that. The alternative you state is the correct one.

@SuperPalinder 11 ай бұрын

@daraorourke5798 11 ай бұрын

Isn't Levelling Up a poison chalice and an empty soundbite. The ante room to nowhere for Rayner in Starmers first post election purge. He is shaping up as Continuity Cameron....

@Verity98765 11 ай бұрын

It's the shadow role of a named government ministry. It will probably be changed after the election to something to do with development.

@user-zr1ry3gm2i 11 ай бұрын

Yes!!!

@nilsalmquist802 11 ай бұрын

Nobody has told this lady that the 'levelling up' she talks about is nothing other than an empty Tory soundbite and a con.

@samwesterbaan351 11 ай бұрын

New LABOUR Or new Tory.SNP is right to say that

@nicksimmons7234 11 ай бұрын

SNP times up, failure after failure. Labour will enjoy taking your seats.

@aaronjohnson6916 11 ай бұрын

Is this a strategic move, placing Nandy ready for a department that Labour plans to reopen as part of a plan to tackle immigration?

@MishMash22 11 ай бұрын

Excellent point.

@JKMeZmA 10 ай бұрын

As a Scot, Lisa Nandy, although has lots of good part she has done and said, has made so many mistakes and been very cruel with how she’s discussed Scotland, especially around independence and devolved powers (along the lines of Scottish people have no idea what is good for them) which is maybe why? Try to get more of the Scottish vote?

@jackwilliams1625 11 ай бұрын

The idea that you can be a Labour party and not be prepared to spend money is ludicrous. How anyone can take Starmer seriously is beyond me.

@mikepost8965 10 ай бұрын

History has shown that British voters will not vote in sufficient numbers for left of centre. God knows why

@matthewtrow5698 11 ай бұрын

Lisa Nandy is too far left? Yay for New New Labour! - don't worry Big Business, it'll be BAU under Starmer. Effectively, what we will end up with, under Starmer, is equivalent to the Tory Party in 2010 - before it swung too far right. It doesn't bode well for our country. Not well at all.

@nicksimmons7234 11 ай бұрын

Corbyn fan speaks, sorry you’re losing the Tory party you love.

@matthewtrow5698 11 ай бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234 🤔I don't recall saying anything about that man. Are _you_ the Corbyn fan? What an odd comment. 😕

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

Too far right? That ship sailed when Thatcher took over and the so called 'wets' were purged in short order. She re-made the party so that ' one nation' conservatism was consigned to history. I would do a bit of reading about the last fifty years if I were you.

@nicksimmons7234 11 ай бұрын

@@matthewtrow5698 worst labour leader ever.

@californiadreamin8423 11 ай бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234. Exactly….it’s the same script, but now they deny christ .

@stephencopping9953 11 ай бұрын

Could it be Her colour, or her one time support for Palestine ( although she backed down on the latter ) Starmer will not level anything up, just more broken pledges !

@arthurdixon5890 11 ай бұрын

Lisa is one of the best in his party. He’s lost the plot!

@lawrencediamond7976 11 ай бұрын

obviously yer children, and dont realise what is actually going to happen, Keir, will set about more austerity, folk will not take that, people will not

@MrTzimisces 11 ай бұрын

He demoted her because anyone to the left of Gordon Brown must be removed from the party

@gordonfleming458 11 ай бұрын

Tony said NO

@andrewrae6755 11 ай бұрын

Lisa is a Brexiteer, so not good for PR getting accepted.

@costaspikatsa771 10 ай бұрын

If you don't bend over for Starmer; you get Shafted

@MiPointIs 11 ай бұрын

I have noticed that Lisa Nandy has not been interviewed or made speeches lately but that has been the case with a number of Labour MPs and I just thought they were all super busy preparing for the General Election. I think Angela Rayner will prove a good fit for the levelling up role.

@stephennalty 11 ай бұрын

I am a Labour Party member, but I voted for Lisa Nandy the Labour MP for Wigan to be the leader of the party. I was happier to see that Angela Rayner became the Deputy Leader. Another matter which is annoying me and that is find out that Keir Starmer is trying to separate from the Unions after it turns out that The Labour Party have accepted a 2 million pound donation from the owner of Sainsbury's all because the former PM Boris Johnson and the present PM Rushi Sunak shouting from the Dispatch Box "you are being paid by the Unions aren't you" Rachel Reeves only 12 months ago stated that when she is the Chancellor Of Exchequer she's going to High Tax High Earners. But now she's not going to, probably because of the 2 million pound Donation from Sainsbury's owner

@markrozee 11 ай бұрын

I'm a massive fan of Nandy. She will be back!

@paulmessenger9836 11 ай бұрын

Educate yourself

@johngrundy9849 10 ай бұрын

What a shame, Lisa was a likable politician. Thoughtful, and a thinker not a loud mouth like rayner. This says he likes deceit and someone who's loud and gobby.

@rodbenson5879 11 ай бұрын

I know this is odd but is it not possible that Starmer does take OS development very seriously so Nandy's shadow cabinet position will become a full cabinet position? Perhaps that is why she accepted the role. Overseas development is really important especially if you want to stop mass migration.

@georgethompson453 11 ай бұрын

I wonder how long it will be before the Rayner - Starmer bomb goes off?

@thefunkybeautiful 11 ай бұрын

I am no big fan of Nandy, but to say that she hasn't made inroads against the Tories on levelling up as a reason for her demotion? What has she got to play with then? Labour has given her the following: Continuing austerity, Tory economic strategy and trickle down economics. Green industrial strategy on hold till economy picks up (with this strategy - never). No wealth tax, no tax on stocks and shares, no tax on banks, tech giants or energy giants. No big home building plans. Oh a windfall tax, private schools and non-doms? Negligible returns. Labour is dead as a movement for any positive change in UK life. Dress it how you like, but now a mirror image of the Tory party.

@tomgraham3206 11 ай бұрын

I'm not convinced it was anything to do with Nandy not selling levelling up enough. I've certainly heard her doing so. She's someone who is an excellent media performer but she doesn't really easily fit into any faction of the party. I disagree she is soft left, but then I wouldn't call her centrist or radical left either. In the leadership election she was generally the candidate for the right of the party and Starmer told a pack of lies to attract enough of the left. She tends to float around a bit and I suspect she had disagreements with Starmer on policy and he didn't think she was on side, so characteristically he purges dissent. I always remember when one of the shadow ministers resigned a couple of years ago at the party conference over the minimum wage offer he wanted being blocked, and Nandy wrote on twitter that she was sad to see him go. I sensed she didn't like the direction Starmer was taking the party in.

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

No such thing as radical left. The Corbyn era is dismissed as radical or extreme by the right of the party but its policies were to the right of the 1945 manifesto and would be considered part of the mainstream in mainland Europe and much of the rest of the world. It is a mark of how neoliberal extremism has captured British politics and forced the surrender of Labour since Blair ( except the Corbyn interregnum) to its poisonous embrace that moderate policies can be so easily demonised. There are right wing parties in the rest of Europe that would have no qualms about so called radical left policies here.

@tomgraham3206 11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 I agree with you but I meant 'radical' not radical. Radical for this country post-Thatcher I guess. And I also prefer it to 'hard left'.

@user-zr1ry3gm2i 11 ай бұрын

She tends to floats around a bit because of her own self interests, therefor she will sway with the prevailing wind!

@californiadreamin8423 11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984. “ poisonous embrace” ….”neoliberal “…..”interregnum”……Eckythump lad don’t get carried away.

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

@@californiadreamin8423Ignorant response.

@BobTheBlue 11 ай бұрын

As a proud Wiganer, born and bred, and life long Conservative over 50-years, Nandy deserves nothing less. Nandy is a pathetic career politician who’s never had a real job. She deserves to be deselected

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

It speaks volumes about the state of UK politics that some regard Lisa Nandy as a heavyweight politician. She may be a good communicator by the standards of today but the bar is low across the board. Would many Labour MPs in 2023 be given Shadow Cabinet portfolios in the Kinnock/ John Smith era in the eighties and nineties or in government under Blair and Brown? Very doubtful. Any ambitions Lisa Nandy may have had for high office under a Labour government look likely to be over. I do not doubt her sincerity and she seems personable and down to earth, speaking 'human', unlike many politicians on all sides ( SNP excepted). The good news is that the eradication of the left under Starmer, will fall prey to the law of unintended consequences. Hubris will backfire on the right just as it did with the rise of Corbyn. Events, as MacMillan said.

@tomgraham3206 11 ай бұрын

Well said.

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

@@tomgraham3206 Thank you.

@californiadreamin8423 11 ай бұрын

Was there any good music in the eighties ???

@briandelaney9710 11 ай бұрын

No Babs Castle but none of the Shadow Cabinet are

@Charlieb6308 11 ай бұрын

He got rid of her because she is a living embarrassment in her job as are all kabour politicians. Never has a party been so out if touch with the so calked working class.

@eightiesmusic1984 9 ай бұрын

What is kabour and calked?

@user-bt8jj4qg2h 11 ай бұрын

Is it not the case that people will vote Labour just to get the Tories out of office but do not really support Labour I suppose a lot more voters will switch from the Red Tories(Labour) to the Greens which may mean a hung parliament 😊

@jontalbot1 11 ай бұрын

I wish we didn’t have Angela Rayner responsible for leveling up. A lot of the public don’t like her and she’s not the sharpest tool in the box. Not sure what Lisa Nandy’s crime was. I think the answer is Starmer had to fix Rayner and Nandy was the fall guy

@sueyourself5413 11 ай бұрын

Nandy is vaguely on the left, the Left must be purged!

@Ghengiskhansmum 11 ай бұрын

Rayner is the token leftie. Only there to make Starmer look like a fair person with no agenda against the left.

@anthonymitchell8893 11 ай бұрын

I would fix Nandy and raynor both at the same time if they were up for it that is let no f------r call me a sexist no sir thsts not how I roll it has to be consensual at all times i dont want them going running to the Sunday papers and ruining me financially i have my reputation to think about thsts why I try to avoid gold diggers thank you

@spartacusforlife1508 11 ай бұрын

I used to like her till she said a trans woman is an actual woman. I couldn't take her seriously after that

@fosseferret 10 ай бұрын

Lisa Nandy appeared frequently on BBC Questiontime and came across refreshingly as a politician who seemed to know what she was talking about.

@grahamcook9289 11 ай бұрын

This lot prove that young people know nothing.

@johnsharman7262 11 ай бұрын

I suspect Nandy was too clever for her own good: trying to steer her own boat away from too easy an acceptance into Starmerstream politics. She was good on programmes like QT, and could sway an audience, but sometimes she got lost in her own downstream thought patterns.

@keithparker1346 11 ай бұрын

Why? Because she's not right wing enough

@nicksimmons7234 11 ай бұрын

Corbyn fan?

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234 Corbyn lives rent free in the minds of the Labour right.

@keithparker1346 11 ай бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234 Corbyn is not leader. I don't even support Labour

@bakedbean37 11 ай бұрын

@@nicksimmons7234 Tourette Syndrome?

@scepticalsaint 11 ай бұрын

Easy. He is the embodiment of management and the antithesis of leadership.

@douglascheung5815 11 ай бұрын

The past 13 years of Tory government has led our nation to its present state. The next government has to be courageous and enact those promises and policies that Andrew Marr and your panel have identified as glaringly obvious to prevent our further national decline. Whoever is in power next year, please Walk the Talk and Do what you say you’re going to do! We have seen precious little of those values and good intentions that Rishi promised for his government outside No. 10 last year!

@davidfoster2006 11 ай бұрын

Are the government responsible for one of U.K. biggest problem the 2.6 billion liabilities of the public sector pensions funds, but let’s hope Starmer will reduce this burden when as likely he becomes Prime Minster.

@ma22_783 11 ай бұрын

It's what Blair did to Mo Mowlam. Get rid of any threats to your leadership. I imagine Starmer won't last two terms without being replaced.

@keithparker1346 11 ай бұрын

I suspect after year 1 there will be huge disappointment with Starmers Labour

@californiadreamin8423 11 ай бұрын

⁠@@keithparker1346. Where did you get your crystal ball ?

@keithparker1346 11 ай бұрын

@@californiadreamin8423 it's an easy prediction to make

@californiadreamin8423 11 ай бұрын

@@keithparker1346 Ohhhh you don’t have a crystal ball !! Just checking.

@vo4068 11 ай бұрын

Because Angela told him to!

@jonathanfell688 11 ай бұрын

A big beast like Raynor at Levelling Up is sensible with an election coming up.

@fToo 11 ай бұрын

I wanted Lisa Nandy to be party leader ... but she has seemed a bit MIA in the last couple of years ... maybe too busy writing her book ?!

@1toppotter987 11 ай бұрын

So what new appointees will rock the boat?

@johnbooth2005 11 ай бұрын

I went off Nandy when she declared Israel to be a state worthy of impunity (or words to that effect) by decrying the BDS movement. It's an apartheid state and she needs to disabuse herself about its actual nature. Maybe this slice of 'Realpolitik' affecting her personally might open her eyes, though I very much doubt it.

@user-zr1ry3gm2i 11 ай бұрын

Aye, and I went right off her when she started spouting ignorant and sheer unadulterated garbage, about Scotland, and the political situation there, which clearly she knows nothing about.

@anthonymitchell8893 11 ай бұрын

she went of line there you have to comply and do what the deep state say or your persona non grata and that's both parties have you not woke up yet mr booth. sigh

@johnbooth2005 11 ай бұрын

@@anthonymitchell8893 I am sure your statement makes sense (to you), but I'm having difficulty deciphering it. No wonder, I'm nodding off, eh? It's far too taxing for my limited intelligence.

@lordelpus2099 11 ай бұрын

Both Labour and the Tories smell of wee.

@costaspikatsa771 11 ай бұрын

Boris had Nadine, ❤ Starmer has his Rayner ❤

@lestrem11 11 ай бұрын

Any reshuffle that leaves Angela Rayner still a minister is a gigantic feck up.

@chrcoluk 11 ай бұрын

She was voted in, so she is in cabinet and on front bench regardless, I expect she was given the role either due to party members pushing for it (she is popular) or as a way for him to keep her loyal as he cant fire her.

@lestrem11 11 ай бұрын

@@chrcoluk Wake up, she is the unions Trojan Horse. Starmer has been trying to find a way to get rid of her since day 1.

@chrcoluk 11 ай бұрын

@@lestrem11 Well it turns out its not just Lisa that has gone, but also the housing policy has been changed. Labour no longer have plans to ban section 21, its now the tories we have to hope to get it legislated. Labour changed their policies on bedroom tax. They have also removed all references to building council houses from their manifesto. Also what do you mean by unions trojan horse? are you anti union or something? Quite odd when Labour is a union party.

@eightiesmusic1984 9 ай бұрын

Have you noticed Labour is not in power? She is not a minister.

@grahamcook9289 11 ай бұрын

Labour in government? This bunch haven't got a clue.

@roysimmons3549 11 ай бұрын

Brussels gate?

@snappylarry 11 ай бұрын

It’s simple : Mandy nixed Nandy… (ixnay the Andymay…)

@princeofchetarria5375 11 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but the loss of Rosina Allin-Khan is massive. She is an actual doctor and should’ve been health secretary over Wes Streeting. She’s way more qualified. Also curious what makes levelling up a promotion and international development a demotion? Is there a certain budget associated with it? I kind of just thought ‘levelling up’ was a BS conservative slogan

@eightiesmusic1984 9 ай бұрын

I agree about Rosina Allin-Khan. I could not believe that she was not voted Deputy Leader of the party when she stood. She was the best candidate by a long way for a variety of reasons and would have been excellent in the role. I am voting Green at the GE ( I left Labour some time ago) but the calibre of many in the PLP is cause for concern. I do not see much evidence of many on the front bench being likely to prove to be very effective as ministers. It is a glaring weakness that will only become more obvious if Labour wins power. Though at the moment it looks like the wheels are coming off the Starmer project- the stance on Israel is appalling and also acting as a lightning rod for wider discontent on account of the attempt to eradicate the left. This is rebounding. He should be replaced as leader while there is still time before the election. It happened in Australia in 1983 and the Labour Party won.

@epassafonti3726 11 ай бұрын

Starmer 👃 why she was demoted

@billpotter3383 11 ай бұрын

Let's not forget that Lisa Nandy seriously wanted to follow the then right-wing Spanish government's way of dealing with Catalonia and arrest and imprison Scottish and Welsh nationalists. Such a great democrat. Glad she's on the wane.

@strangetrip837 11 ай бұрын

Starmer is a Tory, that’s it!!

@selfpreservationsociety 11 ай бұрын

I wish, i would vote labour

@alexanders7569 11 ай бұрын

This seems to have taken the party past Blairism and into Cameronism.

@mossychops 11 ай бұрын

Rwanda deal and the Yellow vest. Jewish defence league and ECHR? Charlie Hebdo?

@johnmorrissey7873 11 ай бұрын

He's demoted her because she is useless at her job simples

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

Is that supposed to be an intelligent observation?

@johnmorrissey7873 11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 no just the truth or have you been triggered and you probably think it's hate speech

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

@@johnmorrissey7873Not at all on both counts. Merely pointing out facts to you.

@johnmorrissey7873 11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 i thought you took no notice of facts because you obviously do not think nandy is useless at her taxpayer funded job

@hughcaskey9542 11 ай бұрын

Need a reshuffle in Birmingham labour couldn’t run a bath let alone a country

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

You need to work on your sentence construction and thinking. It is Labour not labour and there is a full stop at the end of a sentence. Surely you know this? Similarly, you should be aware that councils have had their funding cut by nearly 50% in the last decade, the financial stability of a number of other councils is cause for concern, Tory Woking council has also been in the news recently due to its problems, hence it is not a Labour issue as you falsely imply. Your comment makes no sense either.

@colinbaker3916 11 ай бұрын

Not a good idea to make badly run councils a party political issue. Woking?

@Ghengiskhansmum 11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984Tory led Northampton nearly had it's 3rd bankruptcy.

@jean6872 11 ай бұрын

*Chalk yet another one up for New Labour.*

@allisterwhitehead 11 ай бұрын

Haha, bless. You're acting as though these are politicians when anyone with a brain knows they are all glorified lobbyists of one type or another. 'Being an MP' is merely a facade. The country will never accept in enough numbers the current Labour party as being anything other than an aesthetic alternative to the Tories. There are MacDonald's staff reshuffles that carry considerably more weight in regard to the national interest.

@michaelfoy 11 ай бұрын

Whereas a Big Mac actually has more standing than the currant bunch of Non-entities masquerading as the Tory government.

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

The whole comment makes little sense, especially the last sentence.

@allisterwhitehead 11 ай бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 To you, of course. Sadly, you are legion and given your name, persistent, hence The Common's current incarnation.

@eightiesmusic1984 11 ай бұрын

@@allisterwhitehead Another incoherent comment.