The Klamath river deserves to be natural The tribes deserve to thrive
@jaznm7195 Жыл бұрын
That may mean that electricity needs to be shut off in a shared manner as these Dam's provide about 2% of electricity for the area. Some other reports suggest the salmon may not come back due to climate related issues, making this an expensive experiment. The 500 million to tear down is 2x the cost that was sugggested to have built salmon ladders. If the salmon do not come back wil be a loss on 3 fronts; Salmon ,electricity, and water storage which has only been been touched on lightly. I can on hope it will not be a case of "Stupid is as Stupid does" as I believe a rebuild of torn down dams could easily be in the 10's of BILLIONS. As for government wisdom - we tend to look at "either or" options vs hybrid solutions.
@tortillaluvsyou Жыл бұрын
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ ok
@robertwoodpa6463 Жыл бұрын
The tribes have got gambling. They aren't going around in canoes fishing for salmon. I know of a woman from a tribe in Hollywood Florida getting 10k a month from gambling dividends to tribal members. Each of her kids get $2500.00 a month. True story.
@jan221508 ай бұрын
No more dams in California because some fishies will prosper. Ridiculous!
@georgehaydukeiii63966 ай бұрын
@@jaznm7195this is an extremely well thought out project. The sky is not falling! We are simply fixing some of the worst mistakes we made. Everything will be fine.
@bakenumber4 Жыл бұрын
May the work needed to remove the four dam's go smoothly for the community and the workers. But once the work is competed may the life and custom's of the American Indian not only survive but thrive for the next thousand years!
@everydayrants663 Жыл бұрын
So the guy only cared about the value of the property and the counting on exactly the tribe or the people that live there and their food supply just that goes to show capitalism at its finest
@HildaRealtor Жыл бұрын
Typical white people
@user-lq3dj3eo8k Жыл бұрын
OMG what a victory, not just for the tribe but for earth. It is damming that has destroyed so much land. Congratulations to the tribe!
@williamkuhns2387 Жыл бұрын
I remember back in 2000 driving up to Requa along the north shore of Klamath River mouth is the smell of smoked salmon wafting from locals houses. Kept the car window down to enjoy it!
@giorgiopiccolocz11 ай бұрын
That guy talking about fires AND PROPERTY VALUE - I bet that he actually meant it other way round. Great effort and cheers from Czech Republic!
@rickiex Жыл бұрын
It's very possible and positive, but there's honestly no guarantee. You can build the river, slow it down, add rocks, etc. There isn't any guarantee that the salmon will come back in numbers. I would suggest they close the rivers from fishing for at least 3 years minimum. So many things can go wrong, but many things can also go right. I wish the state, workers and tribes the best of luck.
@Zer0Dark30 Жыл бұрын
Salmon fingerlings can be added to encourage repopulation
@williamkreth Жыл бұрын
Nature finds a way
@louisvandenbroucke4491 Жыл бұрын
they allready did actually, luckily it seems that they never fully stopped salmon migration up river, perhaps there were populations that could spawn in branches they did have access to, with the river restored they can however go further up and perhaps reach colder waters that are more suitable for them, and it's not just salmon offcourse + dams have far more issues than just fish population decline, they harm all traditional river life in various ways and importantly reservoirs have been found to be a highway for parasites, the Aswan dam lead to widespread malaria infection and a massive deathtoll as the population living in middle-upper egypt had next to no resistance to it+ were at the time suffering widespread malnutrition.
@sallygirl10125 күн бұрын
Hey have you checked lately? There has been an increase!
@livinglegacy7 Жыл бұрын
Support Indigenous sovereignty!
@jayh1391 Жыл бұрын
Great Report. Thank you
@stewartbrands Жыл бұрын
It will help the salmon population as a whole in the Pacific Ocean as well. The Tribe is just one small part of a huge chain of organisms that will benefit. It is useful and good to not associate natural habitats with sociological or artificial boundaries since they are intrinsic to the synergy of life. The more we refer to them and their denizens as intrinsic to their territorial region the more the focus on their overall value will be.
@pinkiepinkster8395 Жыл бұрын
We need to learn to build projects in coordination with NATURE and not in coordination with rich politicians and big corporations.
@Gilded_Cage_Princess Жыл бұрын
The government stole their land and left them dry, we then complain it's gonna effect property value and looking? I'm sorry, their land we settled on they should have a say more than just because it's their survival. Recognize by complaining about it that they are complacent.
@billyrubin2001 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day, the feds built dams according to the state’s needs while never thinking about the environmental impacts of such structures.
@iomibestlefty Жыл бұрын
You mean when government actualy was capable of progress not guided by concerns from the few who oppose progress. This for example is no more than window dressing. Do you actualy think native Americans still live in teepees near running water, which makes hunting and gathering more accessible to native salmon and fresh water. In reality native Americans enjoy all the comforts we delivered them. From cable TV to cell phones to heated dwellings flush with ac. Many gladly accept government handouts to fund their cozy lifestyles while useing our court system to demand more handouts. And lately the only time they seem content is when they win approval to clear cut their sacred lands to build massive casinos.
@kallyfromcali40627 ай бұрын
@@iomibestlefty 😂 your a dam fool if this is your understanding.
@nathanieljohnson2664 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful, return to mother nature.
@louisvandenbroucke4491 Жыл бұрын
well yeah if you rewild an area to a state it was in 100 or so years ago there wil also be (mostly short term) negative consequences, indeed wildfires could be a major issue at first, however if you look back you see that wildfires were always quite frequent but when we began moving to prevent them entirely we also created the conditions that caused the ones that we now see to be enormously more devastating. (though it's important to note that it is also due to a recent seemingly hybrid tendency in which the removal of dead material from forest is stopped abruptly whilst still not intending wildfires to return, these measures should be taken but they should be taken piecemeal, not all at once because now these forests are essentially either all old or all new trees, in a more mixed forest it wil be better also removing the dam no doubt wil restore former wetlands as well, in the longterm the environment wil be served by it, but again regarding certain measures these should be eased in
@michaelcharlesthearchangel Жыл бұрын
Let the salmon spawn then collect the bodies. I have people close to me in the Yurok & Hupa Tribes that live there. I myself have been in Hupa on the Trinity River where the Kurok tribe once lived. In a few years, the salmon will recover if they are only collected after spawning and the fertilized eggs are left alone.
@AmyEugene Жыл бұрын
You know salmon die after they spawn, right? What difference does it make to collect fish that are dead, how is that supposed to help? You can't eat decaying fish, plus their bodies provide nutrients for other fish and creatures that live in the river. Also, no one is collecting fertilized eggs. Salmon eggs are taken out female fish that have been caught when they're being processed for food; their eggs are only fertilized after they've been expelled from the body and laid in the river. I've never heard of anyone digging around in the river looking for fertilized eggs. I grew up on the Rogue River and we learned all about this in elementary school.
@illegallystalked3119 Жыл бұрын
0nly the males die after spawning. Because they want to.
@jajajaja4590 Жыл бұрын
Are you a marine biologist? If so show me proof that supports your claims
@Pfyzer Жыл бұрын
I do t think you need need k be marine biologist to say anything. It's our job to research ourslves
@Nardawg83111 ай бұрын
Do not listen to these cucks they do not farm or grow enough food to feed themselves let alone others. Fish bodies are used to make fish emulsion you intellectual numb skulls. Its how Native American tribes fertilizer their crops for thousands of years douchebags.
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
About the Trinity River. A healthy river has many juvenile small fish through out its system. You see them especially during summer. The Trinity is near void of small fish. Why is this ? Trinity has ample spawning areas. But fish are not spawning in the main river. Is it good that there is many people floating the river, disturbing any fish that might be in there ?
Interesting news coverage . Have very Happy Thanksgiving.
@jasonhannah7483 Жыл бұрын
And you have a nice day in hell👹👹
@richardrose9943 Жыл бұрын
Everyone should be paying attention to this this is just the beginning
@charlieyellowstone8248 Жыл бұрын
The beginning of what?
@magesalmanac6424 Жыл бұрын
The beginning of every day people actually caring about the environment?
@jan22150 Жыл бұрын
Here we have a state running out of water and the nincompoops in office decide to eliminate some dams. What are you going to do in the future California when you run out of water?
@miketakacs4701 Жыл бұрын
I forgot to congratulate the tribe . Salmon is delicious.
@genwe1894 Жыл бұрын
Remove dams in a drought state? Lol geez will they be building more dams, then?
@Danceswithmushrooms Жыл бұрын
No more dams. We need more natural flowing rivers.
@nateyp700 Жыл бұрын
👏 thank you ABC for covering indigenous stories. ❤
@illegallystalked3119 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is the farmers in cali have signs up everywhere saying we need more dams.
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
Put up dams in vacant valleys with no rivers and streams. During floods, pump water in them and fill them up.
@notsure7939 Жыл бұрын
yeah, a few extremely wealthy almond farmers would rather see all of the local rivers drained rather than switch to a less water intensive crop
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
@@notsure7939 true. They have so called water rights and will do anything to keep it even drain a river.
@dlight9849 Жыл бұрын
Remove the dams. Let nature exist naturally.
@juanortega3965 Жыл бұрын
Do the LA River next
@SteveSabbai Жыл бұрын
Instead of removing the dams why don't they build a passage for the salmon to bypass the dam?
@jerrymullins1187 Жыл бұрын
This is foolish.
@sharkcacher Жыл бұрын
Four large dams make how much electricity ? In a state with an already broken power grid. Taking them down is a good thing but like every thing else the state isn't prepared for the out come. Going Green is a good thing but maybe we could stop sending billions of dollars on Ukraine and use that money on solar and battery technology.
@pd2468 Жыл бұрын
So beautiful thing that you’re doing I just can’t get used to seeing a native brother with a beard or goatee I guess times are changing so good and caring for mothers and that’s all it matters keep in the way of life to live see you can’t kill the Indian to save the man
@gabrielmcguire213 Жыл бұрын
I grow dirt!!!
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
Indigenous men have always had facial hair. Europeans think they made us -COMANCHE NATION
@peterharren8909 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the age of these dams is a major driver, but it is so nice to see Native Americans listened to. I not unsympathetic, but fire risks and property values are coming back to the builders of these things. As for water shortages like in the Colorado Basin, roughly 70% of that is agriculture and a good percentage of that goes to China. We are basically destroying our ecology over agricultural over production.
@Llyd_ApDicta_Berlin Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story? Renewables such as hydroelectric, are incredibly wasteful and damaging for the environment.
@crawling86 Жыл бұрын
I just found out boarding schools is why I don't know my native language.....
@Rockhoundingcolorado Жыл бұрын
That won't be the Reason its done! Lol Don't get confused and think our government care!
@Nardawg83111 ай бұрын
These dams prevented major flooding though..... 😅
@TimeIsHoney Жыл бұрын
Kind of a no brainer
@peterdorn5799 Жыл бұрын
removing the dams, does not stop the water supply, for fighting wild fires develop a new system for accessing the water, this can be done w/ a little engineering
@CSGATI Жыл бұрын
During a drought when we need hydroelectric for EVs It defies logic, the salmon are gone. The people are not they are more important.
@chuckschenck3045 Жыл бұрын
Why are we so quick to blame the dams . I like to know how many salmon are coming back from the pacific.
@felixcolon8930 Жыл бұрын
What about farming the Salmón in indoor lakes likes Trouts, Shrimp, ect. You know the Government want to restrict the water because the west is drying and California can't live without theirs fancy pools.
@NN-sj9fg Жыл бұрын
The same negative arguments were used before the removal of the dams on the Elwha.
@davidrussell3392 Жыл бұрын
Why don't we focus on the Salmon's food first why don't we get rid of Herring fishing their main food source and fix the chemical in the tire problem that will have a bigger impact
@ericmaclaurin852510 ай бұрын
Awesome, How many tons of CO2 are we going to add to the atmosphere to get salmon in the river and how disingenuous is it to claim this is the difference in food supply.
@Pfyzer Жыл бұрын
Dam removals gives lives not only the Native Americans, but also those who lives further down streams
@lag9765 Жыл бұрын
It's about time.
@inthemindofmariahs11118 ай бұрын
Klameth 2ed largest river
@terrencebryant7518 Жыл бұрын
Food insecurity is real guys worried about property values.
@williamkreth Жыл бұрын
This makes me happy
@phartsdust Жыл бұрын
If we can save the fish for the native Americans it would be worth all the surrounding forests to burn up for lack of water to fight the fires.? Sometimes the end just don't justify the means. Repercussions are many.
@pabloramos420 Жыл бұрын
Native Americans weren't fat
@user-hw7ky4cs2z Жыл бұрын
Once those dams are completely removed there wont be anything left of that water supply it will be down to alittle stream when things level out I would be willing to bet they will almost dry up at times in the near future
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
Have you explored that area ?
@jan22150 Жыл бұрын
@@cammontreuil7509 California is running out of water. What is it going to do in the future?
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
@@jan22150 more storage in vacant valleys.
@tbone1212 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Californians can buy those little plastic water bottles at Wal-Mart…
@jan22150 Жыл бұрын
@@cammontreuil7509 you can't even collect rainwater in California. That's against the law !
@Onebad96zj Жыл бұрын
How about not netting all of the first down river and they will thrive. How’s it going to work with California droughts in the summer? There will be no water for the fish. How about record rainfall like this year? Flooding of so many homes. California already doesn’t have enough power for the people now and in a few short years only EV’s being sold but let’s pull out good clean power…… makes so much sense.
@pancakeface5717 Жыл бұрын
A short news segment cannot address the full breadth of issues surrounding salmon recovery. But this spot is so narrow as to ignore the many region-wide environmental, economic, and social benefits salmon provide, benefits dams take away. Not that salmon recovery for the benefit of Klamath indigineous people isn't important enough, but healthy Klamath basin salmon runs will benefit coastal communities far beyond the basin itself. And any cardiologist will tell you, we should all be eating more salmon and fewer burgers.
@RW4X4X3006 Жыл бұрын
Without the dam, how do they irrigate for crops? How do they provide drinking water? How do they control the river when flooding?
@notsure7939 Жыл бұрын
there aren't many agricultural crops in the Klamath river valley. Drinking water has never come from those dams. Flooding? The dams don't really stop flooding. I think the tribes are more concerned about food. You know, cause you die without it.
@squaregangster Жыл бұрын
Do it already
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sick of talk. Now I know how the tribes felt listening to one lie after another from the US government.
@wouldntyouliketoknow3811 Жыл бұрын
P that was not an insightful report to tell the whole story
@kalaiolele8796 Жыл бұрын
Cool...'bout time.
@getonlygotonly Жыл бұрын
our wonderful economic policies have all but killed the Chesapeake bay and puget sound and so many dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico . hope that they can get this right and restore just a few rivers for all the destruction that has been done to what was once long ago
@ConstantGardener-q9q Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t they create a series of fish weirs (mini damns) to slow the water but still keep it open to salmon? That is actually a traditional indigenous practice.
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
We need to tear down all dams built by Caucasians -COMANCHE NATION
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
Slow water warms up.
@TheJester-ct5pi Жыл бұрын
So if they can't fish they face food insecurity and need government assistance? Why can't they go to a grocery store?
@mebluewater Жыл бұрын
Exactly go to the damn grocery store. Most dams help supply electricity which we are kind of in short supply
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sick of talk. Remove the dams already. But first get rid of the spiny ray fish above the dams before they wash down the main river establish themselves and eat up all the small steelhead and salmon.
@MarcBienenfeld Жыл бұрын
Damn
@wouldntyouliketoknow3811 Жыл бұрын
I happen to live next to this reservation wonder why they don't talk about in the 90s when they got all their tribal money and they built all those brand new beautiful houses and got all those new pickup trucks and within a year the houses had no doors or Windows animals walking in and out of the houses and brand new pickups up on blocks and front yards that look like they lived in the yard not the house or the violence that comes from this tribe still to this day
@HildaRealtor Жыл бұрын
They also didn’t talk about back in the days when white people come in and kill most of their people.
@wouldntyouliketoknow3811 Жыл бұрын
@@HildaRealtor they also don't talk about before the white people got here how they killed themselves and Ward with each other they also don't talk about the times that the tribes would go to the white settlements and ask them to join in on their war parties they also don't talk about what would have happened if the European settlers hadn't have gotten here before Hitler
@davidatovar Жыл бұрын
Go to the store like everyone else in America, or go live in a tepe.
@Almightycreator888 Жыл бұрын
Bout goddamn time
@cutkicker Жыл бұрын
Energy prices will sky rocket. I pray there are no blackouts throughout the winter. Keep voting democrat. We never learn & deserve everything we get.
@johnmartinperaro8191 Жыл бұрын
I want everyone to work with the reservations all of the reservations because of the fish population not just in one half of the United States but the whole United States there used to be the same type of fish in one part of the United States to the other part of the United States all the riverbeds and everything else
@zenithproject817 Жыл бұрын
Let it burn its natural it will grow back
@geargeekpdx3566 Жыл бұрын
That face tat tho
@mebluewater Жыл бұрын
The stupid shall be punished. Lol
@augustrain5951 Жыл бұрын
Yeah well, only in the end will humanity realize oil cannot quench thirst and money cannot be eaten.
@gregjeter2445 Жыл бұрын
I hope these tribe members didn’t build their homes too close to the river? With the dams gone there will be no means of flood control.
@dphillips4351 Жыл бұрын
The only thing this will do is enable a increase in gillnet usage and the demise of the salmon.
@JS-pz8yp Жыл бұрын
Indubitably!
@wouldntyouliketoknow3811 Жыл бұрын
And if you don't believe my last comment go down there to Northern California Southern Oregon walk through the reservation on a Friday or Saturday night or anytime late in the evening let us know what your experience was and you don't even have to get on the reservation just get close
@notsure7939 Жыл бұрын
no clue what yer last comment was but I've walked through NorCal reservations on Friday night. Beautiful place. Also there is no Southern Oregon reservation.
@What-Why-When Жыл бұрын
Sorry settler your County is threatened
@Oooweee440 Жыл бұрын
Typical human, they don't realize something is bad until it's too late and rush to fix it and makes more problems
@MrMcgooOG Жыл бұрын
No it wont
@johnmartinperaro8191 Жыл бұрын
I remember when West Virginia and Maryland used to have salmon over so many years you do not find no salmon in the rivers or even you don't talk to him at all if you find one salmon it is very rare it was placed there that is how bad it is
@pauldebuigne262 Жыл бұрын
"Could" means "we don't actually know if the taxpayer money spent to destroy the dam will solve the problem, but at least we feel better about ourselves."
@magesalmanac6424 Жыл бұрын
It’s better than doing nothing. How lazy of you “why bother trying at all?”
@junalynnward2364 Жыл бұрын
Sipsandi Dance
@apollo24zz Жыл бұрын
Break 👏🏽 That 👏🏽 Dam
@olafvidar9315 Жыл бұрын
Those native people look well fed...
@jackturner3005 Жыл бұрын
The dams aren’t the problem!! It’s the over fishing everywhere, part of a natural evolution. Why have the salmon and chinook runs decreased so much in coastal rivers also. There are many of those rivers that have never had dams and their runs are diminishing also.
@simonac688. Жыл бұрын
Wow... what a project and hope all goes to plan 🐳🐳🐳 and for the " fires" wy not prepare now and build a reservoir just in case its cheaper then rebuilding the whole place ... good luck folks 🇨🇦
@robertkosko1317 Жыл бұрын
REMOVE TRHOSE DAMS!!! #Elwha
@onebridge7231 Жыл бұрын
The tribe had to adapt to the destruction of the river and the endangering of the salmon; therefore, the others need to adapt to living without the water reservoirs. You build in a fire prone area, then adjust your building codes and stop building with wood or don’t rebuild after the fires destroy the entire town.
@raedaltaee7358 Жыл бұрын
طاب يومكم اعزائي الملائكة يصرف لكل 100 يوم ارضي القادمة خمس خزنات من المال أو الذهب أو المجوهرات أربعة خزنات منها لجميع الملائكة تقسم بينهم بالتساوي .وخزنة واحدة لجميع نساء الجنة والحور العين تقسم بينهم بالتساوي . مستشار الخالق
@mompreneurlife Жыл бұрын
Good for them! 👏Gotta stand up for what you believe in.
@jobursch9564 Жыл бұрын
Really.hope they don't get rid of the dams.i. Washington
@markalan2492 Жыл бұрын
Why the heck not just give them a hundred million dollars and let em buy tuna fish in the can… that’d be a four hundred million dollar savings,,, it’s a win win….
@Merauder2 Жыл бұрын
If the "tribes" would stop wholesale netting the salmon by the thousands, there wouldn't be such a "problem."
@catfishman9516 Жыл бұрын
About dam time
@gfhjhvjgfvkjvv3666 Жыл бұрын
They’re so traditional but they have American names 😂😂… and his last name is meyers… he’s no engine
@noinfo326 Жыл бұрын
You are really ignorant!! Maybe find out why they have American names!!! Could it be because they were not allowed to keep their names and given new names when they were forced to go to residential schools???? You really make yourself look stupid and I rarely call anyone stupid!!!
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
He has a point. Okay. Indians want to fish. Be traditional. No motor boats. Gill nets. Use traditional gear. Fish numbers will start going up. They won't be so fat and diabetics. There bodies were built for rugged living not fast food. I'm no Indian hater at all. I have a lot of respect for them and like them.
@noinfo326 Жыл бұрын
@@cammontreuil7509 You are ignorant though, saying you aren't an Indian hater!!! They are not Indian's. Try Indigenous Peoples or First Nations. Who are you to decide how they should fish? I am thrilled the damns are being destroyed and the ecosystem will one day flourish and provide food again.
@mebluewater Жыл бұрын
Maybe the salmon wouldn't disappear if they stopped eating them. Hey go to the grocery store or better yet go to Arby's where the meat is. Lol
@noseyandneutral Жыл бұрын
What a weirdo
@cammontreuil7509 Жыл бұрын
At the mouth of the Trinity River. It's a miracle any fish get passed those Indians.
@kharjkharj4757 Жыл бұрын
😅🤑😅
@markkubiak8296 Жыл бұрын
Damn those dams! Remove them!
@johnwattdotca Жыл бұрын
Salmon, as a living creature, may be one of the best foods humans can eat. Scottish people feel that way, where the northern seas are the northern salmon fishing grounds going back to the Garden of Eden. Let me explain. Salmon are born fresh-water creatures. When they leave their birth-place and enter the ocean, talking about Pacific sockeye salmon, they change into salt-water creatures. Scientists don't know if this happens immediately or if it takes time. Despite swimming all over the Pacific, and surviving, these salmon will find their way back to the birthplace to lay eggs. Being back in fresh water distorts their metabolism, and they die. Humans are half fresh-water as our bodies and we're still salt water in our blood. Eating salmon helps to bridge that difference. There are two different kinds of food. Food that is pre-digested or not digested. Eating another animals is getting the chemicals that animal turned food into, and what it turns you into after eating it. When you eat undigested food your body turns it into the chemicals you need. If all you did was eat meat you would die. When you pick and eat food while it's living you absorb that energy of living, as important as nutrients. Many languages have a word to describe that. The English language, and the watered-down American, don't.