Learn a Figure Skating Bracket Off Ice at Home!

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In this video, Lloyd teaches you a hard figure skating turn right from your home! Brackets are a turn the enters on one edge and exits on another while also changing your skating direction. The easiest way to think of them is to think about doing a 3 turn, but then turning the opposite way, but staying on the same pattern.
In some countries, this move is actually translated as a counter 3 turn, which makes more sense than the term "brackets".
This figure skating turn is not an easy one and is classified as a difficult turn by @Skating ISU
I decided to make this figure skating tutorial video because there is no reason the ice rinks being closed should halt your figure skating progress. There is so much great work that can be done from home, that by the time you get back onto the ice, your figure skating will be on another level!
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@buskergirl 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously, do a collab with the street skater guys. One-foot turns will blow their minds, and I'm sure they can teach you some tricks, too.

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to. One of them got in touch with me recently about it actually! I hoping we can make it work out. I think I'm going to order some freestyle slalom skates to try. I love doing fast footwork on the ice, so those seem right up my street!

@buskergirl 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline Oh wow, looking forward to it! 👍🎉

@horizoninabucket 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline I've modified my slalom skates to make them feel much more like figure skates. I moved the frame back over half a inch, put a 3/8" heel lift between the frame and the boot. Also am running the biggest wheel diameter differences I could find. i.e. 68-80-80-68mm wheels on each skate, in order to get enough rocker to be able to pivot on either of the two middle wheels. This all made the balance points roughly similar to my ice skates, good enough that I can switch between them and work on the same fancy figures stuff after only a minute or two of warmup.

@Lourylle 4 жыл бұрын

OMG YESSS Finally a highly descriptive tutorial with the do’s and the don’t’s!! 🤩

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you enjoyed it ❤️

@alr391 9 күн бұрын

Great video, thanks. Off ice turns can also be done on an old t-shirt or something for those without a spinner 😊

@cherylskates 3 жыл бұрын

You are amazing! Best bracket video! I have been off the ice for years & now afraid to try them. Amazing how much you lose by being off the ice for years. I will master these again as well as my axel again. Much harder as you get older to relearn! Thanks for your help!

@sandykovacs6043 3 жыл бұрын

Love the suggestion to use the Off Ice Spinner to practice the bracket position...I will be adding your suggestion to my off ice practices going forward. Thanks!😀

@meganhume551 4 жыл бұрын

Great information and demonstration as per usual, thank you for making and sharing these videos!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 🙂 I'm happy to hear you're enjoying them,

@elyssabrecher7938 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously, I've been involved in figure skating for 43 years (I'm old). I have NEVER had someone explain a bracket to me in such clear, concise language that makes so much sense! When you retire from competitive skating, you really need to think about coming to the DC area to coach.....we have some AMAZING programs here, and you would be such an asset! (And I'm sure your fellow ice dance countryman [Jonathon Hodgkinson] would love to have you here, too!)

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words! I really appreciate it 🙂 if people are finding this useful, I can make more cover all the other turns. Funny you should mention coaching, Anastasia and myself are actually looking for an ice rink to settle down in and start teaching! Is Jonathan in DC now? He was living in florida last time I spoke to him. I haven't seen him for years!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I took screenshots of your comment on my phone, but then I removed it as I wasn't sure having your phone number posted online here was a good idea! I will read your message when I have a break in-between creating videos and get back to you. It's very informative and helpful. Definitely something that we would consider.

@elyssabrecher7938 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline thank you! I didn't realize this was a public response!! UGH! Old dogs and new tricks!! Thank you for having my back! 😊

@elyssabrecher7938 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline although I can still see it? Maybe it's because I wrote it?

@elyssabrecher7938 4 жыл бұрын

I just deleted it from my end, too. Hopefully, not too many people saw it!

@thesu 4 жыл бұрын

I might be learning more from your off-ice videos than the on-ice ones! Nice, thorough explanations. You have great form. Give me something to shoot for.

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I think sometimes it can be great to learn the theory from home and then apply it to the ice after! That way you don't have to get cold listening to someone to explain what to do, they can just correct what you're doing wrong while you try! Then you end up getting better value for money with your ice time and lesson. Thanks for the nice comment ❤️

@lenalaps4022 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! We can totally work at our body positions off ice!! Thank you 😊

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed the video 🙂

@KatDatoxic 3 жыл бұрын

This is awesome! Thanks for making this video! I have Snow White inline skates and I am struggling with my 3turns and brackets!

@IceCoachOnline 3 жыл бұрын

Brackets are very tough! Try to get confident with your 3 turns first. If you need more help, there are a ton of videos on my Website/Patreon explaining how to do these moves!

@samanthaolivieri7462 4 жыл бұрын

Love this! One of the moves I was trying to teach myself on rollerblades before they imposed a lockdown on us... There is certainly a lot of information that I could’ve used to prevent a couple of scrapes on the pavement, hahaha. Can’t wait to get outside again and give it a try!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the video! You'll have to let me know if it helps when the lockdown is over!

@liubruce5611 9 ай бұрын

You are a genius

@rosiewinder7590 4 жыл бұрын

You read my mind! I’ve been seeing pro skaters do this move and thought it looked impressive but didn’t know what it was. Will give it a go...

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Let me know how you get on with it 👍

@pumpkingod 11 ай бұрын

Awesome! Do you have an on-ice bracket video too? I couldn’t find one. Edit: never mind, I subscribed to your Patreon and there’s a ton of good stuff on there, including brackets! Thanks again!

@vexakul9536 4 жыл бұрын

You can't even imagine how useful such videos are! There are videos where someone who can do e.g. brackets perfectly explains how to do them on ice: on high speed, deep edges, etc. But it actually is not of much help to get me started. My first bracket is not going to be like that. It's essential to have an understanding of how exactly my body should move beforehand, otherwise I'm going to waste my precious time on ice. And this is perfect for that. I have actually been doing exercises close to what you showed in this video and now I can more or less do brackets on ice. I request rockers and counters. I want to learn them but they seem intimidating to get started.

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you are found this video helpful! A few people have mentioned rockers and counters, I can do those! Are you more interested in inside our outside?

@vexakul9536 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline Probably more in FO and BI but I will be glad to see a video for any of them anyway. Also, may be you have an understanding of the order one should try to learn them?

@jensbornagain 4 жыл бұрын

Loved this video,please do counters. I am having trouble with rolling over to the other inside edge I feel like a wall is stopping me!!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the video ❤️ I can do counters in the same way!

@MDMarck1401 4 жыл бұрын

Saludos con cariño desde México🌎💌👍☺ gracias por tus vídeos

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Hello 🙂 Thanks for showing your support ❤️

@user-xw9zu8qm8i 4 жыл бұрын

Could you do a similar break-down for rockers and counters? Very helpful stuff!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Yes of course! If people find this type of video useful, I can make more for all the turns. 🙂

@user-xw9zu8qm8i 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline You are great man, thanks for sharing your insight!

@pattiarrison6590 4 жыл бұрын

This video is very helpful! Do you have a video about counters? Thanks!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

We do have on ice counter rocker videos on Patreon, I'm currently working on off ice counter videos too 🙂

@pattiarrison6590 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I will go to Patreon directly! @@IceCoachOnline

@jlitt2917 4 жыл бұрын

that was so helpful! i think pandemic or not, i needed to see what the motion was off-ice because it just wasn't making sense to me. can you do one for rockers? i tried doing rockers and they just become 3-turns--what's the trick to avoid that????? thx!

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you found the video helpful! I think people can really benefit from learning the concept from home instead of paying for ice time to only stand there and get cold not actually skating while they learn the concepts. I can do rockers in the same way! What's harder for you, inside or outside ?

@jlitt2917 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline i've only tried outside and that already almost broke my brain. so, i'd love to start with that, but i'd also like to understand both. your explanations about where to face the upper body are really making sense to me. thx!

@eyerune4865 4 жыл бұрын

Wow tbh i thought i knew empirically what a bracket is but i never had any explanation except it was the other side of the 3 turn lol I'm probably not the only one - we didn't started as kid if we are here - so even basic skills tutorials are welcome, especially explained like this!!! I was wondering where your elegance on the ice came from but now i'm figuring that is from your perfect technic ;) Quick question, all dance blade came with a 7" rocker? (i might need others skate for dance)

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

I glad to hear you enjoyed learning this! I was hesitant to post up this kind of content, as I wasn't sure how people would respond to such a specific move like this. But if people find this helpful I can do more like it. I can cover any turn you can do on the ice in detail like this. If people drop a load of comments requesting it, I'll do it for sure! I'm going to embarrass myself here and say I'm not sure what the rocker is on a dance blade. What I can tell you is that is thinner than a freestyle blade and shorter at the back. I don't actually skate in dance blades anymore, I use gold seal freestyle blades. They are more secure for lifting my partner in shows. What thinner blades blades feel a little more manœuvrable and agile. But the difference is small, perhaps only making a difference at the very highest level of skating. The different blade length makes a bigger difference. The longer blade does not allow you to get your feet as close together as the shorter dnace blades when performing choctaws, mohawks etc. This means they are not suitable for ice dance test and competitions as you will lose the levels on your technical elements. If you're skating just for fun, this doesn't matter however.

@eyerune4865 4 жыл бұрын

Oh thanks you so much!!! Idk about other people but imo 3 turn and bracket are a big part of the elegance on the ice; jumps are more about athleticism, spins well with a wrong posture it's impossible and ina bauer and co are just keeping a posture - if i may. And artistry is still a mystery for me 🤣 (It's the shape of the blade, gold seal - 8" - are flatter than coronation - 7" - so a lil faster, don't worry i'm a nerd lol) I was asking you that because i skate on edea fly with p99. Idk about the boot stiffness as i can squat well - i'm asian it help lol. But about the blade, the length is the same as dance blades and since i've taste 8" blade i really love it. And i really don't want to go back to 7" =( I didn't knew about the 3mm blade, it's the same as hockey though ;) I've thought about gold seal too - people will hate me even more tho - but i love to skate and the feeling which come with so much... The lack of holliday might solve this question anyway lol And again, thanks you so much for your time and what you do for the skating community =)

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Some great information in your comment thanks ❤️ I'm going to look up information about blade rockers and things like that. That way I won't get caught off guard in the comments section again 😂

@eyerune4865 4 жыл бұрын

@@IceCoachOnline I've even read some research papers about how the boot's height can influence jumps and injuries so... I'm really a nerd, i'm not a trainspotter but kinda... Only with muscles and hairspray 😂😂😂

@IceCoachOnline 4 жыл бұрын

@@eyerune4865 wow that's really interesting. I would be interested to read something like that myself. Where can I find things like that?