Not sure if you read comments but - could you ditch the 'coming up' section pretty please? I don't want to hear the 'juicy' bits of the conversation before they naturally arise and it just really frustrates me that this trend exists which tries to spoil future discussion for the sake of some futile grasp at higher engagement... We're here to listen to a 1+ hour podcast, you don't need to convince us to stick around to see when a 15 second soundbite shows up. That's all, thanks guys ily

Appreciate the faith from Mac 🙏🙏 Best of luck to Vitality this weekend

Since you guys are inviting coaches to guest currently, you gotta get Swiffer at some point. He seemed so well-spoken and funny in his post-game interviews, and SK is kinda popping off now, so there would be a bunch of things to talk about with them

Whole segment of the podcast for the goat Hyli

By looking on shedule (vs Fnatic and G2) Heretic will start summer break after this week.

One of my favourite episodes to date! Love hearing from the coaches, and really appreciate the depth Mac and Pad went into regarding Vitality and Silly Hilly especially 🤭

Mac and Pad sounds like some comic duo from a cartoon.

19:00 I'm picturing Hyli as a pilot in a Jaeger, just waiting for somebody to sync up with him.

did bro really call salah the faker of football

i would love a euro24 update next week

Sounds like Hyli should coach

salah is not the faker of football ..thats based AF bro

Okay Pad European Cup team segment was really good

Imagine being on a 2 months break because of not making MSI, just to play one month summer season, just to go to another 6 month break. This is so weird to me, I mean I understand the approach of the format with Top8, so every game counts more. But in this moment it has to be Bo3 at least, just 9 games are way to less to improve or to really understand the strength and weakness of teams. It feels too random and very rough for the bottom teams. OR there has to be less teams in the league so you can compete in Bo3 all the time. But I guess this is an economical issue

Loved the bit about the euros in league terms 😂 definitely need a regular update

Banger guests, these two are so good!

I feel like Mac would be the best father

If I speak im in big trouble 😅

good guest choice

All this hyli talks sounds so great until you turn on your monitor and watch him play

What’s the point in bringing in players that you have to retrain their instincts to work with Hyli? Just pick players who have similar instincts already - feels like a tiny bit of coach ego

Euphoria curse is real

Bring Alex Ich to the podcast!

1:00:45 No freaking way 🙃

Wait. So if a team gets knocked out... are they out until winter split starts??? Thats insane. Thats like 6 months of nothing

Salah is a GOAT? Bruh... Messi and Ronaldo are calling, asking how many ballon d'or have you missed?

Salah is not the faker of football lmao

I didnt see it (yet) But damn I loved it ❤

Mac and Pad should stop building their teams around Hily. First, there is no such thing as a "long-term project" in LEC unless you are a top 2-3 team. If the results are bad, the roster is always changing after 2-3 splits (6 months). They want to create a team that can succeed internationally? Well, bad, because the last time Hily was truly successful internationally was 2018 FNC. Why are you trying to build a team around an incredibly risky player with a very unique playstyle, which is really hard to realize and follow? Why in every team Hily is on, all 4 players should change everything about their game because of 1 player, who can't even show his "magic" for the last 6 years? First thing you have to do as an ambitious LEC team is to improve your fundamentals to make it to the internationals, where you can improve after playing against eastern teams. Look at how much better FNC look after coming from MSI. And only after all of that you can try to create this "magic" with players like Hily, and try this incredibly hard micro game he is playing. It's absurd how more than half of this podcast with VITALITY coaches about TEAM VITALITY is actually about Hily and his teachings. This makes me frustrated because it feels like a lot of incredible players are ruining their carriers because of this absurd idea of Hily's League Of Legends, and young talents like Carzzy and Lyncas are fighting for their lives to make playoff in the same region as dead MDK, Heretics, and Rogue

It seems it was another team that didn't qualify, uh! better luck against MAD next time

I wonder if you can reverse curse Vitality

nah but no way he called salah the goat

Well, at least I know why Vit is so bad now 😂

Hyli should get an award in gaslighting

Only Messi could be called Faker boys

This podcast made my hate for VIT and Mac and Pad grow substancially.

TH3goat

That Mo Salah - faker comparison is so inaccurate. Mo Salah isn't even caps. He's vetheo maybe. I will not say Messi, which Ronaldo, which Italian, which brazilian or which german is football's faker, but Salah definitely isn't it. And Klopp, as much as I like him, isn't equivalent to kkoma. Kkoma is the most decorated coach in LoL history, and while Klopp may be the most likeable coach in football history, but definitely not the most decorated. I saw a video the other day about coaches with most titles, and I think Guardiola and ancelotti were the top 2. Klopp didn't even show up in the video.

Good thing that man is a LOL Esports choach , because when he starts talking about football he knows jackshit.

This explains why Vitality is performing so poorly at least. I cannot believe that Hyli is still commanding this much energy to accommodate. If he was the greatest support of all time, sure. But you should not be centering your entire team around a support who is clearly past his prime.

Idk what football bro is watching to say Mo Salah is the goat

I've been watching football almost 25 years now and League about 10 years. And this guy does not know football and his analogy does not add up at all, funny to hear though. I was not expecting to hear Euro 2024 talk ngl.

Faker is messi bro Salah aintnoway lilbro

Their defence of Hyli was so disingenuous. They would be right 2 years ago. But nowadays Hyli is just straight up inting.

Messi is faker

Pad has no ball knowledge yet he does

alot of yap

Hyli used to be really good, he is not good anymore, and that is okay. I will not believe in Hyli until he proves he is still good, no amount of gaslighting and behind the scenes "talk" can outdo the fact that he by himself can run it down and lose games. Stop living in the past, many good players do what Hyli did back then, bad players now still don't hard int as Hyli does now. I do not see the upside of Hyli apart from the name and history. Prove me wrong in game, with results, and I will believe, no amount of gaslighting and "insight" can be as valuable as good results. I remain unconvinced, and it's been a couple of years of "give Hyli time". No.

HAHAHHAHAHA bye bye Vitality, no one will miss yall

Bro talking about Allah, get out of here

Hopefully people know about football because this guy has no clue what he is talking about.

not a huge fan to have a whole episode "hijacted" for 99% talking about one (bad) team

7:40 How can u say Salah is the goat when u have players like Ronaldo and Messi ( Ronaldo in EUROs context ). Ronaldo is Faker, Salah is inferior, u cant disrespect the history of the goat imself

Find someone in your life that looks at you, like Pad looks at Mac 🫶