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Lee Harvey Oswald's "ex-girlfriend" talks conspiracy

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Judyth Vary Baker says she was Lee Harvey Oswald's ex-girlfriend. She wrote a book about their relationship and is speaking out about her belief that Oswald was framed. KCAL-TV's Suzie Suh reports.

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@raynejaso1414
@raynejaso1414 3 жыл бұрын
she's beautiful back then
@theanalogguy1988
@theanalogguy1988 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous men when they were young can be looks horrible when they are old , also women ;), I’ve seen so many faces.
@nibiru379
@nibiru379 3 жыл бұрын
We all gonna become old and ugly, that’s why few ppl check out and pick up old people
@theanalogguy1988
@theanalogguy1988 3 жыл бұрын
@@nibiru379 but not all of them, there are still some gorgeous old man and old lady, if only they can treat themselves better. Some old men or women looks gorgeous when they are getting older than when they were younger and vice versa. Ugly men or average men can be different and look even better when they are getting older.
@dolphinzob4402
@dolphinzob4402 2 жыл бұрын
would still hit IDGAF
@Kingx90
@Kingx90 2 жыл бұрын
Went from an 8 to a 1 real quick 😄
@austinhealey1120
@austinhealey1120 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm just a Patsy"....... Literally quoted from Oswald lol
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES 3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of people say that. Doesn't make it a fact
@beatlejuice7755
@beatlejuice7755 3 жыл бұрын
He was a patsy. The real killers worked in 3 letter agencies.
@Userxyz-z2d
@Userxyz-z2d 3 жыл бұрын
I dont believe her story. There was 2 Oswolds. The innocent one held by the Cops, was the wrong one. They realized it after he told them & after they retrieved his school records. 2 LHO's attended the same school, knew each other and knew they werent related. One, had family ties to Russia & had an accent, also he had visited family there the summer of 1963. The other, was a normal kind of guy, not nearly as brite as the other. They graduated high school & both went into the Navy. Both were "radar men." After that, the American LHO settled down & married, had kids. They apparently arrested the wrong man. How do you fix that?? Edit: "Dead men tell no tales."
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES 3 жыл бұрын
@@Userxyz-z2d Oswold?
@TheAmericanCrusader
@TheAmericanCrusader 3 жыл бұрын
OJ Simpson said the same thing. Who you gonna believe?
@maryblaufuss7533
@maryblaufuss7533 Жыл бұрын
I remember thinking, ever since I was a kid in the 1970's, that the circumstances around all three deaths: JFK, Oswald, and later, Ruby's, were fishy. That the math just didn't quite add up. I read "Crossfire" by Jim Marrs, "Hit List" by Richard Belzer, "The Reporter Who Knew Too Much" by Mark Shaw, "Dr. Mary's Monkey" by Ed Haslam and "Me and Lee." The more you get into this stuff, the more claims and details you find, the more confused a researcher gets, and it all gets scarier. I wasn't there for any of this, so I don't know. I'm not in that position of power to be able to assert one way or the other. All I'm saying is that each book is very dense, heady reading, and if it were all lies, it would take a very long time to write it all up out of nowhere.
@AK_-xn1fm
@AK_-xn1fm Жыл бұрын
Now this maybe a hot take but I feel like a lot of the things that are weird around the whole thing could probably be answered by the US MK Ultra program. It answers a lot of the weird reasoning as well weird circumstances that led to probably brainwashing. Doesn’t help it ties to the capability of intelligence agencies which were some of the most involved in the MK Ultra program. I’ve guessed that they used Oswald to frame him then used Ruby to mop up any evidence before it goes too far.
@johnwalker1493
@johnwalker1493 2 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that immediately after the assassination oswald was running for his life.
@salchaw
@salchaw Жыл бұрын
Oswald was hoping to save kennedy and yet he was blamed for killing him ! it's a sick joke !
@howdyl6456
@howdyl6456 Жыл бұрын
the only sick joke here is you believing in this conspiracy theory
@midorimashintaro2092
@midorimashintaro2092 11 ай бұрын
lol wut
@TheMrsoulkitchen
@TheMrsoulkitchen 8 ай бұрын
@@howdyl6456do you have a job that pays more than 20k a year?
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES Ай бұрын
She won't take a polygraph test
@weshunter_musicman
@weshunter_musicman Ай бұрын
Go away puppet troll​@@howdyl6456
@elijahsabo3846
@elijahsabo3846 3 жыл бұрын
LEE HARVEY OSWALD DIDN'T SHOOT JKF!!
@markwinchester3005
@markwinchester3005 3 жыл бұрын
He was seen at 12:15 by a fellow employee and then at 1:05 by a Dallas cop. No freakin' way he could've pulled it off timing wise not to mention in three quick shots. Then there's the shot from the front that blew the back of JFK's skull out. Impossible.
@awhellnawman
@awhellnawman 2 жыл бұрын
@@markwinchester3005 hey but the front thing is still a theory + People think CIA did it and didn’t she said that he worked in the CIA??
@ILSRWY4
@ILSRWY4 5 ай бұрын
@@awhellnawman that is why he was framed and that is why he was killed... it was an inside job, lee knew about it and was eliminated before he could spill the beans...
@friendlysky7674
@friendlysky7674 3 жыл бұрын
I never had a clue that Lee Harvey Oswald had such great handwriting😂😭
@lydiab823
@lydiab823 2 ай бұрын
It’s her letter to him. Listen to the end she reads her name as the writer.
@JacobC479
@JacobC479 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch the video of him being questioned by reporters, and he says "they haven't charged me with killing the president and I didnt hear that until a reporter said something in the hallway".. watch his face when the reporter says he has been charged. It's like he connects what's going on (him being set up as the fall guy) in his head and his face/ demeanor looks like somebody who is angry and irritated that nobody is on his side. I'm not saying he didnt have some sort of involvement, being connected to the CIA... but I think he was what he said he was, a patsy. He may have even fired shots but he wasnt the only person involved in this. Its exactly what a cover up by governmental/special intelligence employees and contacts would look like. "Authority forgets its dying King." We wont forget our dying king.
@davidlion8762
@davidlion8762 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Ruby is there standing third on left with his head peering round. He said he never seen Oswald before .
@manuelponce3715
@manuelponce3715 2 жыл бұрын
You Really don't have a clue... Oswald wasn't the Shooter, they claim the "Shooter" "Lone Assassin used an Italian Carcano, it's a "Bolt" Action Rifle, a Bolt action rifle can't shoot Bullets close to like an Automatic weapon, if you analyze the shooting, some bullets are a "Half" second apart, that would be Impossible for a Bolt action Rifle, a Carcano would take "3"seconds to load, aim, shoot. At the Fastest Level. Oswald wasn't the Shooter. Lyndon Johnson wanted to be President, Aristotle Onasis wanted Jackie, the US Army wanted the Vietnam War, so it was all planned out. Plus if the "Car" that the President was shot in was a crime scene, "Why did Lyndon Johnson order it to be taken to Washington and have it Cleaned ?" Lyndon Johnson Created the Warren Report, and those that gave information to the Warren report most likely found themselves "Dead" by accidental or "Mysterious" causes, 18 witnesses died within just 3 years, Coincidence ?
@dolnick7
@dolnick7 Жыл бұрын
You left out the most telling part..."they haven't charged me...yet." He knows they were going to charge him because he was guilty. Oswald's demeanor here -- angry and irritated -- is not a sudden awareness of some plot against him but par for the course for Oswald if you know anything at all about his interactions with people throughout his life. Perhaps someone inspired him to act, but I believe there is no doubt as to his guilt in firing those three rounds from the TSBD. One must also remember that this person so many conspiracy proponents appear so willing to rehabilitate as an innocent victim also fired four bullets into a cop in cold blood and attempted to shoot another one upon being arrested. He was not an innocent Boy Scout by any measure.
@einarreitz3571
@einarreitz3571 Жыл бұрын
@@dolnick7 I have a question? There was numerous witness's that heard shots behind the fence on the hill, and there was many more people that saw men behind the same fence. Some of those witnesses were law enforcement officers that ran up toward the fence. My question is very simple......Why would anyone be up behind that fence during a Presidential parade? If you're wanting to see the President, why not be on the sidewalk or the overpass? I'm not saying Oswald wasn't involved...but what I am saying is...that too many witnesses said men were behind that fence and something out of the ordinary happened behind that fence during the assassination?
@dolnick7
@dolnick7 Жыл бұрын
@@einarreitz3571 I don't believe very many credible witnesses saw men behind the fence on the grassy knoll. Jean Hill's testimony is worthless, as she kept claiming to see more and more things as the years went by. Likewise Mr. Bowers in the signal tower didn't really report seeing much when interviewed by the FBI in 1963, but after talking to conspiracy authors began seeing more and more action behind the fence. Some of the railroad workers on the triple overpass thought they saw smoke in the trees, but after running there immediately found no one. You might be surprised to learn that a majority of witnesses who gave an opinion as to the direction of the shots thought they came from the TSBD. There are conspiracy authors who will tell you the exact opposite for their own reasons. In the echo chamber that is Dealey Plaza, thinking shots came from the grassy knoll is understandable, but not persuasive. But the most compelling reason no shooter was there is because the angles just don't work. Bullets fired from the knoll would have to go to Kennedy's left, and no photographic, witness, or autopsy evidence supports that scenario. If you want to embrace the madness of James Lifton, be my guest. Most conspiracy literature is garbage; some not, but most of it is illogical and downright dishonest, cherry-picking unreliable witnesses or using ones who are in the distinct minority. Naturally, unless you've studied the evidence to know when you're being lied to, you come away thinking you've been told a compelling story. Of course most people don't have the time or interest to correct JFK misinformation, so the default position is it was a huge conspiracy, with Oswald innocent and 5 or 6 shooters taking pot shots from the grassy knoll. But it's all garbage, but not surprising that now a majority of Americans believe it. There have been a thousand books written about the assassination, but how many of those support the fact that Oswald shot three times from the sixth floor, scoring two hits, with no on else firing? I appreciate you hearing out my views. I try to use logic, common sense, and keep Occam's Razor handy.
@dannydubya9410
@dannydubya9410 3 жыл бұрын
What an infuriating title. Quotes around ex girlfriend, that hot button word "conspiracy" to turn off 80% of the audience.
@dezbryantcaughtit5138
@dezbryantcaughtit5138 3 жыл бұрын
There’s no evidence of her being an ex girlfriend. The only fact that we know is that they worked together
@beatlejuice7755
@beatlejuice7755 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the CIA calls anyone who knows too much a conspiracy theorist. Even if only half of the conspiracy theories you read are true, even if only half claims made are true, then it is proof that the world is run by Satan worshipping child predators who use surveillance to monitor children in their own homes.
@jwprewett
@jwprewett 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Ms Baker
@johnwalker1493
@johnwalker1493 2 жыл бұрын
This was definitely a conspiracy, he had to be silenced as soon as possible. I guarantee those involved were paranoid after tippit couldn't get the job done.
@pentameteriamb6196
@pentameteriamb6196 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah well why did they wait almost 2 days to silence the little puke?
@cassiedevore4661
@cassiedevore4661 Жыл бұрын
The JFK historical site amazing historians and professors have been working on this for decades! Check them out from a younger person there is so much cover up and deceit and if you don't believe research for yourself. Absolutely mind blowing once you look into it.
@cutercills9x9creates65
@cutercills9x9creates65 Жыл бұрын
I remember a theory that Tippit was sent to silence him and Oswald murdered him in self defense, and we know what happened next.
@albertvelasquez7089
@albertvelasquez7089 8 ай бұрын
​@@cutercills9x9creates65 any history the dead cop was part history cia/fbi or any other government agency? Maybe just wasnt his day Odwald freak out?😮
@stddisclaimer8020
@stddisclaimer8020 4 ай бұрын
@@pentameteriamb6196 ...and why wait 3+ years to "silence" Jack Ruby? These considerations (among so much else) refute any idea of conspiracy.
@AndresRomero-de9xw
@AndresRomero-de9xw 4 жыл бұрын
Dam cia setted this up
@beatlejuice7755
@beatlejuice7755 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ILSRWY4
@ILSRWY4 5 ай бұрын
Its Damn, not the other Dam used for water and setted is not even a word! LOL :D
@Kingx90
@Kingx90 3 жыл бұрын
Oswald does not have a killer vibe
@beatlejuice7755
@beatlejuice7755 3 жыл бұрын
He was framed then assasinated. He never was found guilty but the government claims he is. Guilty until proven innocent.
@Kingx90
@Kingx90 2 жыл бұрын
@Waldo Forsest the marines want both robots and killers lol, but that’s beside the point
@juliorenecalderon5714
@juliorenecalderon5714 3 жыл бұрын
LHO scapegoat.
@brianr2732
@brianr2732 4 жыл бұрын
oswald was innocent just like james earl ray
@americanoperatorial
@americanoperatorial 2 жыл бұрын
Patsy.
@HappyHermitt
@HappyHermitt 9 ай бұрын
Oswald was framed. 150%
@erict3728
@erict3728 Жыл бұрын
If she has letters from Oswald, have they ever been proven to be genuine? I want to believe her, but something about the way she tells her stories doesn't seem right
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye 6 ай бұрын
@erict3728 I think she’s a kook… none of the serious intelligent intellectual researchers I know of take her seriously…. she actually does damage to the cause. This doesn’t match the known handwriting Ive seen of Lee, and in the known writing his spelling is poor….
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye 6 ай бұрын
I just went and did some comparisons and that is totally not his handwriting lol…. Just Google Lee Harvey Oswald handwriting….. there’s tons of documents
@erict3728
@erict3728 6 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye the way she starts her book really stuck out to me. She spends way too much time explaining how other people prevented her from becoming a doctor. It was very reminiscent of people I have met that are either drug addicts or just plain liars. They always have some sort of excuse as to why they have failed and it is never their fault. Also, the way she talks about, "Lee and me" sounds more like some fantasy than a recounting of actual events. I completely discounted her as a fraud a while back, but never thought to look up writing samples. I will still check that out though. Thanks
@ILSRWY4
@ILSRWY4 5 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye She had an obsession with him, probably a crush sort of thing. That's all this is... There is NO evidence that Lee had an affair except for her story. whether Lee was with the CIA or not, that is not why he went to Dallas, he went there because Marina was there living with the Paines and he wanted to be with her.
@lydiab823
@lydiab823 2 ай бұрын
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye. It’s her letter to him. Watch this video again, she says her name at the end showing she was the one who wrote it. She mentions it in her book.
@reedcorbid3817
@reedcorbid3817 3 жыл бұрын
Lee patsey Oswald?
@JENDALL714
@JENDALL714 3 жыл бұрын
There were several Oswald's, which one was her lover?
@lennon1252
@lennon1252 3 ай бұрын
She's a liar. Those love letters were between her and her boyfriend written in her handwriting.
@luciankristov6436
@luciankristov6436 4 жыл бұрын
Theres so many holes in this story. That we will never truly know what actually happened
@ianreynolds8552
@ianreynolds8552 4 жыл бұрын
It's a guessing game to keep people from asking why Kennedy was shot
@MegaTriumph1
@MegaTriumph1 4 жыл бұрын
Watch, Know more News on bitchute that will give you some clues.
@beatlejuice7755
@beatlejuice7755 3 жыл бұрын
It's like the Zodiac cover up. A patsy was found and everyone pounced on him.
@TruckieLooks4Aliens
@TruckieLooks4Aliens 7 ай бұрын
Ppl should watch Stones new doc. U will def believe how Oswald was framed and couldn’t have been the shooter
@MaybackMusicGroup1
@MaybackMusicGroup1 4 ай бұрын
You're pretty
@daymien8407
@daymien8407 3 жыл бұрын
he could have known something others didn’t, but was assassinated in case he told ppl what was rlly going on
@FamilyNeverFold
@FamilyNeverFold Жыл бұрын
Exactly there was something Jack was blackmailed with no way he did it for Kennedy’s wife but he died with the truth so oh well.
@doug4494
@doug4494 Жыл бұрын
well, duh
@ILSRWY4
@ILSRWY4 5 ай бұрын
yup
@wallacebell4311
@wallacebell4311 3 жыл бұрын
Someone is trying to get their 15 minutes of fame turned into dollars! Has anyone checked these love letters too see if it was LHO’s handwriting? More than likely this lady is simply trying to make some money, period!!!
@ericpenrose3541
@ericpenrose3541 3 жыл бұрын
A rare exception to the incessant diatribe of unthinking, malevalent conspiracy theorist hatred. We (the undoubted majority) believe or suspect the conspiracies we believe in not all that any conspiracy theorists believes. Tbat should be obvious. We are interested in facts and in establishing the reality. Thank you for the fair and sympathetic coverage here.
@jonasthesen
@jonasthesen 3 жыл бұрын
CIA probably ..
@razakmanify
@razakmanify 4 жыл бұрын
wow he has nice handwriting!
@ianreynolds8552
@ianreynolds8552 4 жыл бұрын
Oswald was intelligent and no mad man , that's the thing. Listen to him talk on the recorded interviews he s very articulate.
@friendlysky7674
@friendlysky7674 3 жыл бұрын
I think on that day it meant if you are involved with jfk you were dead like jd tippit and Oswald it was weird af😭
@robinwitting2023
@robinwitting2023 3 жыл бұрын
A book I read dismissing all the conspiracy theories stated that he had learning difficulties even though he learnt Russian. Not only is the handwriting accomplished the language is articulate. Robin Witting, England
@Userxyz-z2d
@Userxyz-z2d 3 жыл бұрын
Things that arent talked about. Bush Sr was very high up in CIA at that time- Warren Rept says he wasnt there that day, but pix show B Sr being there. Btw, he did get to serve as Pres too. As far as LHO? There was 2 LHO's. One had Russian connections thru family & he had an accent. In Texas, both men graduated from the same high school. Went into the Navy & both were "radar men." They both knew each other but just laughed at their names being a coincidence, they knew they were not related. After getting out, the American LHO settled down, got married & had kids. LHOs were so different. When he was arrested for the crime, he presented with solid alibi's. They sent for his school records & found there was 2!! The authorities had made a mistake but had already beat him up, shown him to the press! With solid alibi's, no jury would ever convict him. So what would you do to him?People that went to high school with them, know.
@ifyourespondyourmad.2409
@ifyourespondyourmad.2409 3 жыл бұрын
Guys i think i might have been lee in the past life. We are both born oct 18th and people always tell me I have nice handwriting. Just like all of you in the comments.
@ryantredd
@ryantredd Жыл бұрын
😂
@MrWaYmontana
@MrWaYmontana 3 жыл бұрын
Damn she used to be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@dustyflair
@dustyflair 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think LHO hit it....
@dustyflair
@dustyflair 2 жыл бұрын
@TheLocoGuy10 it's a compliment.
@sbrattone
@sbrattone 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe some of his "superiors" forced him to take the blame
@andycummings-music
@andycummings-music 2 жыл бұрын
Someone lit the batsh*t signal.
@cowitch100
@cowitch100 Жыл бұрын
Lee tried to save him?🤣🤣
@jonathanaltman7436
@jonathanaltman7436 6 жыл бұрын
Omg I'm a 31 yeah old hearing this mind blown, true story 😈
@dracomalfoyswife5113
@dracomalfoyswife5113 4 жыл бұрын
Why the emoji?
@plasticdadaii8225
@plasticdadaii8225 4 жыл бұрын
Un-trusted Media Source
@dolnick7
@dolnick7 Жыл бұрын
It's no coincidence that so many of these conspiracy people are trying to sell a book.
@richardedenfield5167
@richardedenfield5167 3 жыл бұрын
My mind is racing with the, maybe I can save him, comment. That is very interesting. Did he miss on purpose? That doesn't sound like a lie someone would just come up with (the lady saying that.) Maybe he thought if he shot early, and missed, and they heard it, they would protect JFK from other shooters.
@achillestheant430
@achillestheant430 2 жыл бұрын
indeed, anyway it all boils down to CIA did it. 100%
@shirtless6934
@shirtless6934 2 жыл бұрын
There was no other shooter.
@maryblaufuss7533
@maryblaufuss7533 Жыл бұрын
I read the book. Vary Baker claims that, in one of Oswald's last telephone conversations with her, he told her that his only hope to try to save the president was to shoot first and try to make him duck.
@richardedenfield5167
@richardedenfield5167 Жыл бұрын
@@maryblaufuss7533 I read that to. I think it is true.
@trumpsuxcaucus
@trumpsuxcaucus 9 ай бұрын
Oswald never fired a shot !
@audreywilborn2018
@audreywilborn2018 2 жыл бұрын
For being a cold bloody killer Oswald could pull the ladies .
@calebwilkerson11
@calebwilkerson11 Жыл бұрын
Lee Harvey Oswald was a strange sort of innocent
@dinomader306
@dinomader306 2 жыл бұрын
She's just another person trying to make a Dollar from a book a serious reader would never read unless she showed actual proof!!
@beverlywest9779
@beverlywest9779 2 жыл бұрын
She has the proof, it's in the book.
@pentameteriamb6196
@pentameteriamb6196 Жыл бұрын
There's just no accounting for taste....
@susiealverson1
@susiealverson1 6 ай бұрын
Bless her heart
@redline296
@redline296 9 ай бұрын
CIA
@shirtless6934
@shirtless6934 2 жыл бұрын
That is not Oswald's handwriting, and could not spelll either.
@natashaprather9233
@natashaprather9233 2 жыл бұрын
Nice handwriting she had.
@lorenzorodriguez6192
@lorenzorodriguez6192 3 жыл бұрын
Was that Kramer?
@barryirvin2417
@barryirvin2417 2 жыл бұрын
Baker is truly a nutcase .Along with Beverly Oliver 🙈🙈🙈👎👎👎
@Runinfox
@Runinfox 3 жыл бұрын
I always post like this--about 5 or 6 comments--FILL up the Page--SO all can SEE.. I wonder how long it will take for you to Erase my words?????????
@smailhamana8333
@smailhamana8333 Жыл бұрын
لا خير في دولة يفعل فيها يهودي مايشاء حكومة فيشي صح (100/100)
@leemoore9933
@leemoore9933 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone say NUT JOB!!!!!!
@andrewyoung2796
@andrewyoung2796 3 жыл бұрын
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