I'm hoping to eventually get a couple of them and maybe turn them into an oil refinery....

Is the Nasa apollo V taller than this or is this taller. (I have the Saturn V next to my desk and it is tall )

With sets like these, it is unavoidable, and you can tell from looking at it, but that doesn't take away from that, to Tiago at least, this is a negative of the build. Just because the problem is a necessary flaw of the design doesn't stop it from being a flaw. You just have to hope that the end result is enough to overcome it and for the set to be worth it.

How does he except a large, mostly symmetrical structure to not be repetitive at some points? I’ve seriously never understood that complaint

i think it’s what thinks of as “his niche” like other lego tubers talk about technic, display factor, etc but tiagos is stuff like building techniques and unique parts use. Which is a fine niche to have, but really, who is going to buy a 500 dollar lego set for the thrill of spending an afternoon building it? You spend that much money to put it on display.

​@@silxent6888 he probably understands the need for repetitive builds, as he is a former set designer. He's just saying that the set wasn't fun to build from a builder's perspective

@@alnd not everyone, I like to stretch out the building experience over a few days and disassemble sets after about half a year. A few years later I like to build them a second time, so building experience is very important for me

For Lego prices, there should never be stickers. If Cobi, Pantasy, etc. can release sets with all prints at lower prices, so can Lego.

If at least they were in the same colour as the bricks - Lego's white stickers are somehow always way too white compared to the white parts they are applied to.

@@MrClassic. Actually, in this case the bricks aren't white enough.

@@gizmomckopp1131 You mean they should change the white colour of the bricks to match the whiter colour of the stickers instead of the other way round?

@@MrClassic. Yeah, I'd argue that the original rocket is bright white, not cream white. But they shouldn't be friggin cheapskates in the first place and only use prints. Most expensive brick toy company should deliver the highest quality, but LEGO is a joke compared to Pantasy and Cobi.

For sure

A 1:10 scale Artemis SLS rocket on its own would have been much better, IMO.

@bryanhamby4960 Agreed. The platform is nice, but 2/3 of the set. For a set I'm buying, I want the focus to be on the spacecraft.

@@bryanhamby4960 there would not be much too it and would look underwhelming next to any of the other sets.

The staging on the Saturn V and the fact that the Hubble fits so nicely within Discovery - it will be a while before these features are topped! Partially because of those two sets, I try to buy only sets designed by Milan Madge and Mike Psiaki if I can help it! This strategy hasn’t led me astray yet!

Like the Saturn V…? this new one stinks and a lost opportunity

You're not the only one. Imo the more premium the set, the less stickers are justified. There are some exceptions, like the rivendell set, which has some really high quality stickers that actually look amazing and are quasi holographic. Stuff like that, which still feels premium and would be almost impossible to replicate with prints, I'm okay with. But this set? No

18+ sets have more stickers because adults are expected to be able to place stickers. While 4+ sets do not have stickers.

@@simonquvang6073 still, I would prefer spending a bit more for having no stickers at all, the color difference alone makes stickers problematic, and you can't really undo stickers.

You are not. Ideas sets come without stickers. Super-expensive sets like this one shoudo the same.

Ppl hate it because its badluck

I just throw away every box so don't care how it looks

@@TipperProject oh really, I keep them despite the unhappines of others 😂

It just feels cheap and lazy at this point. A few years ago when the 18+ branding was introduced sure they all looked stylish and it helped sell the product but on behalf of myself and many Lego fans, part of the experience for me was always appreciating the artwork on the box, it really added to the experience. Especially when most adult sets now are hundreds of dollars a lot of us would appreciate that small touch of magic to be added back to the sets

@@dinoboy8758what color was the box?

where can we see this 39A set ? i dont see it on ideas.

This Artemis set includes the Pad 39A launch tower.

This would be Launch Complex 39B that SLS is on. Which would be fine, some Saturn Vs flew from 39B. But this tower is such a nice build, I think I'm just going to have to get all the tower pieces (but mostly in red) and then make a 160:1 scale MOC of Saturn V if I want my ideal display. That would be pretty awesome though, 39A and 39B displayed side by side, like they always have been, but spanned by a 53 year time difference.

Also, new Lunar Rover just dropped. Also, our wallets just dropped…

hello, Gordon!

Haha, exactly my thoughts.😂

Right?! Should have been a separate $40/$50 set and it would have sold like hot cakes

I agree. I was really excited for this because I wanted to put it next to my Saturn V, But it's just way too small

This was my biggest question from the review - so it’s not to the same scale as the Saturn V?

I am not sure, the launch pad looks great on display, and we already got the saturn V, including the launch pad seems like a good diferentiator otherwise you would be getting a similar but much less known rocket

@@bondles Saturn V was 1:110, this one is 1:160ish

Trueeee

and Saturn V scaled to the microfigure which is what made it so cool. Does Artemis scale in the same way?

Lego had to work with what they had (probably why this one has a launchpad) and Artemis is pretty simple in comparison to the Saturn V.

This is less based on the rocket and more on the launchpad which isn't the best approach

@@TheFootballBros-109 especially because a lot of fans want a launchpad for their Saturn V without shelling out for 3 retired technic sets to make the thing.

Good question, something with the crew?

Don't worry: NASA can't do a full lunar landing with the SLS, either.

Huh? Of course you can't do a full moon landing. This is a replica of Artemis One mostly, which was an uncrewed test flight and any way the whole idea behind Space Launch System is a completely different mission architecture than Apollo. One all up launch is no its method for going to land on the moon. Other than that, mostly good points. I hate that it isn't the same scale as the Saturn V.

Yeah I've never really understood that criticism.

I'll call it boring. And lazy. You look at older Creator Expert vehicles and the box art is beautiful and has actual effort put into it. You look at current Ideas vehicles and every box looks the same. Just that same dull black background with no real effort put in. I'm not fully against those boxes because they do make some sets like the Art, Architecture and helmet sets look good. But Lego went too far and uses it for anything that's not aimed at kids and even some which could've been aimed at kids. Sets like Sesame Street and Winnie the Pooh probably would've sold much much better if they'd used the proper box art for them. Instead they made them look dull and boring and probably stopped a lot of kids and parents from even giving them a proper look

There’s always a way to do both. The UCS star destroyer was a good example of a great box art while still offering that premium, clear cut view

I think it might be because lego has started creating box art for adults that has that consistent black art with the model. Before they started doing this, large sets really didn’t have a consistent style, the art work would be less consistent and more related to the model itself like box art for more kid sets. Maybe this is what is meant?

For real! I regret not having mine built for that same reason

Same. But it's all the stickers that really seal the (non) deal for me. Stickers just don't display well. Especially LEGO's crappy color matched ones.

wish i had money for this

Honestly same

As a programmer, I can answer this question. Internet stuff is hard and awful.

Saturn V is about 1:110, this is about 1:160. You can find online MOCs for SLS and the launch tower in the same scale as the Saturn V.

The Saturn V is one of my all time favourite LEGO sets of all time, due to building experience alone. The Artemis pales in comparison

@@TiagoCatarino For sure, the Saturn V interior is just a masterpiece.