Leica M6 Alternatives - Most popular film camera of 2019
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@AB-lx8cf 2 жыл бұрын
they need to update this video.. today $2900 - $3500 for a leica M6. Xpan 2 is $4500 - $6500 , Konica Hexar RF ikit is $2100 - $3199. Prices are ridiculous right now. Hipsters have been driving these prices up. in 2016, M6 was at $1400-$2100.
@boerge0712 4 жыл бұрын
I chose the Konica Hexar RF as an alternative and I don't regret the purchase. It is a fantastic camera and the lenses have incredible quality
@AndresRuiz-gs8vm 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos. I will definitely binge watch if my work sends me to quarantine. Greetings from 🇨🇦
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andres! Stuck at home here in Spain!! Take care
@jonlouis2582 4 жыл бұрын
As a camera geek I have greatly enjoined this series, and the blog posts. I am one of those weirdos who thinks the M5 is the best thing since sliced bread. It is a camera that grows on you the more you use it. I have never used an M6, but I think people would do well to splash out for one rather than another camera that might become an expensive paperweight at any moment.
@ribsy 4 жыл бұрын
great video series - learned tons about all the cameras out there
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hope more will come.
@Narsuitus 6 ай бұрын
Before I purchased my Leica M6 with 21/35/90mm lenses, I used a Contax G1 with 21/28/45/90mm lenses. Before my Contax G1, I used a Canon Canonet QL17 G-III 35mm rangefinder with fixed 40mm normal lens. The Canonet was known as the "poor man's Leica." I also used the medium format film rangefinder, the Fuji GW670 with fixed 90mm f/3.5 normal lens. Due to its large size, it was known as the "Texas Leica."
@AlejandroGonzalez-AGS 4 жыл бұрын
The M7 is a great camera with a meter built in. I just bought the M7 over the M6. I paired it with a Zeiss Biogon 35mm f2. A quality and less money alternative over the Sumicrons and better I think over the Voigtlander. I may add, that by many knowledgeable users/opinions the M7 has the best shutter Leica ever made.
@brussbenner957 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to name a few much cheaper cameras then M6, but with similar specs, why don't you name Minolta CLE or Voigtlander Bessa R series? Minolta CLE is basically a Leica (but ch, its a secret). They have an M-mount, TTL, apperture priority (had one before the M7 to be true), a couple of cheap Rokkor M-mount lenses. The price is around $1000-1400 on Ebay. The situation with Bessa is the same, M-mount, TTL (in some of them), much cheaper then Leica.
@gregturner2668 4 жыл бұрын
You missed the Zeiss Ikon ZM, which can be had for about €1500 and quite often they are boxed and mint condition. It was ostensibly a Leica M7 but with more reliable electronics, a brighter viewfinder and I think a faster sync speed but don't quote me on that. Also if you can find me an Xpan in the UK with a lens for less than an M6 with a lens please do share the location! Here they tend to sell for £3000+!
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, I'd say that the M4-P is exactly an M6 without lightmeter, they have the same framelines and almost the same body, but the M4-P is made in Canada, which makes Leica geeks staying away from it.
@Skux720 Жыл бұрын
No mention of the Voigtlander Bessa cameras? They are literally M mount rangefinders and beat the Leicas in many ways like 1/2000s shutter speed, a brighter finder, film door window, SLR-style film loading, and aperture priority on some models which makes street photography much more agile. Voigtlander lenses are also far cheaper than Leica glass and perform just as well.
@canarbak 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I wonder did you really forgot to mention about the Voigtlander rangefinder line. Like Voigtlander R2, R3, R4, etc. Or do you have some specific reasons, you thought that they are not alternative for M6.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't used them before, but we should have given a honorable mention.
@elguapo5620 4 жыл бұрын
Very true. The first alternative that comes into mind is the Voigtlander rangefinder line with their beautiful lenses.
@sinerehber 4 жыл бұрын
The Bessa line was obviously made to better Leica's but they became at least as expensive as Leica M6's in the last years.
@FilmPhotographyChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You have to consider the M6 is potentially 36 years old and the Bessa line started production in 1999 (I think). The Leica build quality is worlds better than the "Voigtlander" which is really a made-in-Japan Cosina sold under the Voigtlander name. Similarly, I owned a modern 35mm Zeiss Ikon which is a very pretty Leica mount rangefinder introduced in 2004. It was also built by Cosina and literally fell apart in less than a year (I bought it used in 2010). The ASA ring, which is embedded in the shutter speed dial, disengaged as well as the body cover literally developing a hole that exposed the body in the back of the camera in the very spot where my nose touches the back of the camera. Yes, my nose wore a hole through the camera cover! These Cosina-licensed Voigtlander and Zeiss cameras don't compare to a proper Leica in terms of build quality but at the end of the day, you can use the same great lenses and achieve the same photos as a proper Leica for a lot less money.
@sinerehber 4 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyChannel I can't accept your general claim that Leica's have better build quality than Bessa's. My R2M was in repair last week and the repairman who has been a Leica approved repair partner for decades, was impressed with its quality. Leica has good cameras but believe me, they also have many with low quality which easily get broken. Cosina on the other side has probably produced vast amounts of junk level cameras but they were also able to provide highest quality if needed. Many renowned camera giants had either parts or complete cameras produced by Cosina. Finally, as a German resident, "made in Japan" has surpassed Germany's for half a century.
@JPCl 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Video and I Love my M6 which i consider my best purchase I've ever made but I wonder why you didn't recommend the Zeiss Ikon ZM
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Being a ZM user I would have put it in line with the M7 as it has Aperture priority and wont run without batteries. But we should have mentioned it.
@Ibibiogal 4 жыл бұрын
Been lusting over an M6 for a while, probably because it's so coverted more than anything because I like SLRs more than Rangefinders. Crazy that the Xpan is an alternative to that. I own an xpan but the thought shooting it in any other mode but Pannaramic doesn't sit well with me. Feels like balsphemy really! But I get it. There's no way I can afford and M6, still paying off the Xpan.
@VariTimo 4 жыл бұрын
The M5 ain’t ugly and it’s spot meter puts every other rangefinder light meter in their place.
@KeithCanisius 4 жыл бұрын
shhhh, dont boost it to much. I haven't got one yet! :-)
@nickfanzo 4 жыл бұрын
Most people didn’t like it when it came out so it’s not the one people hunt for, is all
@PiratePhD 4 жыл бұрын
Should have maybe also included the M-Mount Bessas.
@ThePassiveNomad 4 жыл бұрын
Minolta CLE , M mount camera is the cheapest and best alternative if you want to have light meter while using your Leica lenses.
@diegolabrador 4 жыл бұрын
Really? I sold my M6, M3 and M2 and now I only have 2 Voigtlander Bessa R2a The Bessa R2a is more comparable to the M7. A Bessa R2 (closer to the M6) is even cheaper!
@jorgemtrevino 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Bessa R for a few months. Beautiful brilliant viewfinder but cannot stand heavy use like mechanical Leicas. Also, the aluminized plastic of the silver Bessa started showing its base quickly; as finely made as Voigtländer lenses are made, the cameras are just not up to that level. They are in heart and soul just rebranded Cosinas. Last year I had the good fortune of trading my M6 and IIIf plus some glass towards a lightly used M10, but hung on to my other two Leicas: a button rewind M2 with quick take-up spool and a black lacquered MP purchased new in 2003. The brass bodies of the M2 and MP are much better than the magnesium alloy of the M6. Ditto the viewfinders.
@diegolabrador 4 жыл бұрын
@@jorgemtrevino I agree. But the Bessa R don't have the same quality that the R2/3 series.
@Skux720 Жыл бұрын
@@jorgemtrevino The Bessa R2 and later Bessas are metal and are much more durable. Cosina made a bad first impression with the plastic Bessa R but made big improvements in their revisions.
@Irnbruist 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy how expensive they got! bought a M6 from 1995 two years ago in perfect condition with a VL 35mm f1.7 Ultron (brass version) for 1600.-
@spencerfalzy 4 жыл бұрын
Olympus made an Olympus M1, to compete with Leica in making a smaller camera when in the 1970’s cameras kept increasing in size, but an SLR instead, so they got sued by Leica and had to rename it the OM-1, :) all the OM cameras are my favorite cameras
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have been lusting a original Olympus M1 for a while as a part of history in the camera world.
@tuethuc 4 жыл бұрын
how about all the bessa r ?
@squigglyline22 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Nico for pronouncing Leica correctly in the Intro :) the german in me cringes every time I hear 'Ley-ca' instead of 'Lie-ca' on youtube. Same thing Japanese must feel when someone doesn't say "Nee-kon".
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Only took me like 20 videos saying it wrong. ;)
@kiwipics 4 жыл бұрын
Same here ... I hate the American "made from Aloominum" and not Aluminium.
@Shibukawa 4 жыл бұрын
But who actually caaaaares ~
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Some people do. Im not one to mind, but its nice when one knows some people value it. Same the the 120mm issue we have. Do I mind? Not really.
@Shibukawa 4 жыл бұрын
That's a very diplomatic and noble approach! I came to understanding that, for me, as long as communication takes place successfully, pronunciation in general (and of brand names especially) does not play any role whatsoever. I probably used to be a stiff-butted pretentious prick about that. But by now, personally, I expect no one to "overpower" their maternal languages' general tone (and therefore altered pronunciations of brand and probably also material names) just for the sake of my individual nitpicking. This is a good thing for me since, a) otherwise my head would just explode here in Germany b) I can see people more for what they say and not how they say it and ultimately c) I don't have to stop loving the American pronunciation of Gouda. Thanks for reading and even more for providing the content that you present on your channel!
@jsus159 4 жыл бұрын
Where is the bessa 3a ?
@deanc8446 4 жыл бұрын
The Xpan only has f/4 available , which can kinda make things hard in low light . The frame lines for regular 35mm just feel weird to use ( especially after shooting pano ) compared to a Leica . Too much elecronics to fail in Xpan too , the Leica would be less likely to become a paper weight .No way i'd risk buying an Xpan at current prices .
@vlad_o_sh 2 жыл бұрын
Would be great to heat what has changed since then. Maybe a 2022 recap.
@toulcaz31 4 жыл бұрын
Juho should get his guys in touch with Don Goldberg and get them trained on servicing MR4 meters. MR4 meter with Leica M4 could be a very good alternative based on the best mechanical Leica.
@CameraRescue 4 жыл бұрын
With Leica we have pretty much all the knowhow and machinery available anywhere in the Cameramakers knowledge pool already, but I'll keep the meter thing in mind so I can ask about it once I can go back to center.
@toulcaz31 4 жыл бұрын
Camera Rescue I heard DAG can repair them and convert the battery.
@ShanghaiShua 4 жыл бұрын
I've had my M6 for a while now but always wanted an X-pan, had no idea that the M6 is considered more expensive these days... anyone looking to do a swap/part exchange...? 😂
4 жыл бұрын
No mention for the M6 TTL ? I Believe it's the better M6 version with the bigger shutter speed wheel.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Well, we assumed M6 as both bodies. So it wasnt contemplated.
@tobiasschmidt1662 4 жыл бұрын
For way under 1000 EUR I couls not recommend my trusty old Leica CL. Small, very pocketable, M-Mount, has a build in Lightmeter and couls oporate fully manually - whats more to want
@dmburke007 4 жыл бұрын
You seem to forget a better leica M6 alternative!!! That is the Leicaflex! Built like a tank and uses same leica lenses but with R mounts. Which are at a fraction of the cost plus the benefit of TTL for the Sl1 and 2 and being an SLR!
@lemon58421 4 жыл бұрын
The best one is the Leica MP!! Better than the M6
@oliverjin6344 4 жыл бұрын
There’s also the Minolta CLE and the Zeiss Ikon ZM!!
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, also great alternatives.
@Halbmond 4 жыл бұрын
No love for Bessa?
@crlclssic 4 жыл бұрын
It looks nice, but it’s a rangefinder so it sucks
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the looks, seems you are not a fan of rangefinders....
@Luudite 4 жыл бұрын
The focus on that contact though 🤐
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@Luudite 4 жыл бұрын
Should have been contax, but as everz autocorrect ruined my life. The G2 does better, as forum wisdom goes, but still misses focuses yes?
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luudite i have the G2, never had 36 properly focused shots in a roll...
@jorgemtrevino 4 жыл бұрын
My *Wetzlar* (not Solms) M6 with *Leitz* (not Leica) 35 'cron cost me $1000 in 1997.
@eek0212 4 жыл бұрын
ironically M6 isnt that inflate much like other M mount cameras. for example 10 years ago we could get M6 around 1200 to 1500USD and now still you can get it under 2000USD. But other cheap alternatives like Hexar RF, Bessa R Series and Zeiss Ikon have doulbe price nowdays. So im not sure its best decision to get expensive japanese copies. of course there are some exception for example you can still get CLE with working meter around 400$ if you lucky.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Very true!!
@fjalls 3 жыл бұрын
The Leica M4-P is still the ultimate Leica
@NicosPhotographyShow 3 жыл бұрын
Im a big fan of the M2 and M4. But there is room for all tastes!
@fjalls 3 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShow i own a m2 but have a m4 on the way. Only reason I dont own a m4-P is that my brother wont let me cause its "his" version. Gotta respect that cause he made me interested in film cameras
@NicosPhotographyShow 3 жыл бұрын
Got to respect family!
@FilmPhotographyChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I had my Leica M6 viewfinder UPGRADED with the MP anti-flare kit and had the 75/135mm frame lines masked off to make the viewfinder less cluttered. The viewfinder is huge and really bright/clear/sharp with an improved focusing patch which is less susceptible to flare. I had a similar upgrade done to my M3. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7V5qpiFmMW6dok.html
@vikmanphotography7984 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Minolta CLE
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to own one. But they seem to be slightly finicky due to aging electronics.
@nickfanzo 4 жыл бұрын
Minolta cle
@Mazzeltoph 4 жыл бұрын
xpan is currently over 4000 dollars on ebay. It is not cheaper than an M6
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
We mention a Leica M6 plus lens (leica) is at the price point of a Xpan plus 45mm.
@amersadik3926 4 жыл бұрын
Is the vintage camera still really alive yet? !!!
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
It surely is.
@amersadik3926 4 жыл бұрын
Is it better than digital camera ? What is the secret ? I just want to convince me please.
@CertainExposures 4 жыл бұрын
It’s too bad that the X-Pan is not a mechanical camera.
@toulcaz31 4 жыл бұрын
Lightmeter is not mechanical in the M6 TTL
@deanc8446 4 жыл бұрын
I agree , if it had manual advance and mechanical shutter i'd like it so much more.
@thedondeluxe6941 4 жыл бұрын
The M6 is wonderful... if you don't care that much about knowing how many shots you have left. Seriously, though: It's my favourite rangefinder ever made. But the frame counter is a piece of s***😂
@Dode108 4 жыл бұрын
no surprise i think that Leica paid us for that.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
They paid you? Damn, next time we need to be included in the payroll.
@vermontmike9800 4 жыл бұрын
The Xpan is NOT cheaper than the Leica m6.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
We are talking about a full package. Leica M6 with a modern 35mm summicron vs an Xpan wit the 45mm.
@elangeldelamusica 4 жыл бұрын
prices are ridiculous
@HediJ86 4 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on rolleiflex SL350? hand built in Germany with a beautiful planar 50mm f 1.8 lens.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of it, so can't say anything. Sorry.
@deanc8446 4 жыл бұрын
The Hexar is a really cool camera but is unrepairable should something go wrong .
@DecentGatsby 4 жыл бұрын
Mju II and a small pallet of 35mm film > any of these expensive bricks. Don’t @ me.
@kiwipics 4 жыл бұрын
No Leica lust here, an the price is just a big no no for me. The Contax is just a wallet empying accident waiting to happen. I'd go for the budget Voightlander Bessa L, which would leave you more money for lenses..... Or go digital ( 😉 ) with the Epson RD-1. PS: You also missed out rangefonders fron the like of Canon and Nikon, but Japan Camera Hunter has now successfully increased the prices of those with his JCM price hiker show.
@Rsv4rr-r 4 жыл бұрын
The M5 is a terrible choice if you want a meter because the mechanism is a terrible and unreliable and prone to braking and there are no spare parts, the m6 still has parts available as far as I know.
@RogerHyam 4 жыл бұрын
I now feel uncomfortable using my M6 - which is sad.
@NicosPhotographyShow 4 жыл бұрын
May I ask why Roger? Because of current prices?
@RogerHyam 4 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShow Well an M series Leica is a walk about camera. You have it over your shoulder or in a shoulder bag and when you see something interesting you use it. I'd keep mine in a bag when I went to work or out with the family or for a walk in the woods. I'm lucky enough not to have to worry too much about losing a £1,500 camera if I do something dumb like drop it in a river or leave it is Starbucks. I don't earn a living with it. I could live without it and save up for another camera. But a £3,000 camera feels very different. It would be difficult to say to my boss "Oh I left a £3,000 camera under my desk and someone has walked with it". It just sounds dumb. Why the hell would you leave something that valuable lying around? So I'm uncomfortable because the price of it makes it difficult to use it for what it is supremely good for. I'm sad because that kind of ruins a wonderful thing. I have a Canon T90 with a 50mm f1.4 that I put together for £80. It really is built like a tank and makes images as nice as the Summicron 50mm on my M6 to my eye so I'll start using that more. But I do turn into Gollum whenever I pick up my M6. It is soooo lovely to use. Maybe I should just throw it and myself into the fires of Mordor and be done with it!
@shamikchoudhury5924 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that atleast 50% of M6 buyer are not photographer, most of them are collector who would never shoot.
@nathantw 4 жыл бұрын
As popular as the Konica Hexar AF (not RF) was/is, I would have thought this would be in the mix.
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