Lelit Elizabeth PL92T vs Sage Dual Boiler BES920 side by side comparison

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4 жыл бұрын

0:00 Coffe brewing with 5 sec preinfusion, 1:29 Hot water dispensing, 3:06 Filling with water, 3:49 Milk frothing.
SHORT COMPARISON: I own Lelit Elizabeth. Few months ago I borrowed Breville/Sage Dual Boiler for evaluation. Both machines are very nice.
Thermal stability, programmable buttons, possibility of frothing every time are main advantages of both machines.
Steaming is a bit better with Elizabeth but it is not big difference. Advantage of Elizabeth is cool touch steam wand - it's much easier to clean.
In Breville/Sage programmable buttons can be set for time or volumetric control. You can also set power of pre-infusion.
In Lelit you can only set time for doses control. Pressure of pre-infusion can be modified by changing steam boiler temperature.
Wide programmability is main advantage of Breville/Sage.
Water dispensing is much better in Lelit.
Sage have some nice "secondary" features (wheels lock, possibility of filling with water from the front etc).
You can pair Lelit with WiFi plug. It's not possible with Breville/Sage. Wifi plug allows your machine to properly heat up.
Durability, possible of using WiFi plug and excellent water dispensing system are main advantages of Lelit,
Lelit looks more reliable. It's made in Italy. Breville/Sage is made in China.
BUYING ADVICE. What I will buy now with my current knowledge? I will buy Lelit. My wife will buy Sage. But some baristas will buy new Mara-X :)
SHORT COMPARISON: forum.wszystkookawie.pl/index... (in Polish, but google translator works well)

Пікірлер: 98

@OneManVan 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this comparison video! I was actually looking at whether to buy the BDB or the Lelit Elizabeth and so glad I came across this video. Looks like I’m going with the Lelit :)

@ping_me1vp 3 жыл бұрын

Good choice breville is complete garbage

@chadgregory9037 2 жыл бұрын

@@ping_me1vp actually they're not but thanks for playing

@StefanusGoana 4 жыл бұрын

Correct me if i'm wrong, Elizabeth a little bit noisier. But again the new Elizabeth is equiped with MaraX sileny pump, so case close haha...

@svm8058 4 жыл бұрын

Correct:)

@GuestStarMas 3 жыл бұрын

While I would have preferred the lelit. In Australia it costs 3 times the price of the Breville so that's a no brainier for me.

@amrelnaggar269 Жыл бұрын

How much is lelit Elizabeth in aus

@GuestStarMas Жыл бұрын

@@amrelnaggar269 around $2550 aud or ~1650 euros

@amrelnaggar269 Жыл бұрын

@@GuestStarMas unfortunately as Egyptian i had to buy it from Uk costed me even more due to taxes

@rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын

@@GuestStarMas in Bali 1400 Euro

@rxonmymind8362 Жыл бұрын

If the Lelit looked like the Sage in terms of aesthetics it would be the world's best seller. Chrome box versus sexy red? Hmm...

@maschallah5169 3 жыл бұрын

What about the the most improtant, taste of the espresso?

@svm8058 3 жыл бұрын

Espresso from both machines is very good and very simillar... If you can afford it, buy Lelit, it will last longer...

@IvanMushketik 4 жыл бұрын

Does Lelit allow to program the duration of double/single shots? Is it time-based or volume-based?

@svm8058 4 жыл бұрын

Lelit have 2 time programmable buttons.

@dbauernf 4 жыл бұрын

It's time based, and SVM answered the other question.

@kangacrew540 4 жыл бұрын

Breville is more attractive but the Italian one seems to be more effective. What do you think?

@svm8058 4 жыл бұрын

Breville looks more attractive. Elizabeth looks more durable. Both machines perform very well.

@guidog3068 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t bother with the Breville it will go wrong and you will be unable to get it repaired without paying lots of cash to a Breville/Sage authorised Coffe service company, buy a reliable machine from a reputable brand, you’ll save yourself money and hassle.

@eng.younishameed9095 4 жыл бұрын

what do u think which better

@FluberFusk 4 жыл бұрын

Lelit is better!!

@kangacrew540 4 жыл бұрын

@@eng.younishameed9095 SVM seemed to convey my thoughts

@benjirem2651 3 жыл бұрын

Hey svm, which machine would you say has better milk frother ?

@svm8058 3 жыл бұрын

Steam from Sage (Breville) Dual Boiler is slightly better. From the other hand Elizabeth is equiped with cool touch.

@Murat1982turkey Жыл бұрын

Hello, I have a small art workshop. I have 20 students. 20 Espresso tops off, can it? Will I have problems after a few months? Over time the machine will no longer be a problem after a few months?

@rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын

It's a home machine, not a commercial machine yes it could do it but the temperature will suffer and will take some minutes to have the right brewing temperature.

@DM-sc4zy 3 жыл бұрын

Lelit will last longer no argument there, but at what cost? The cost of Lelit can easily buy 3 BES920s from where I live. Does Lelit last 3 times longer or taste 3 times better? You can do your own math.

@svm8058 3 жыл бұрын

In EU both machines are on the same price level ...

@DM-sc4zy 3 жыл бұрын

@@svm8058 In that case no comparison really. Lelit wins hands down.

@alarcilam 3 жыл бұрын

Actually that’s an interesting point. I used to have an e61 VBM Heat exchanger. Cost me about the same than the Elizabeth. Overtime I was tired of paying 300 bucks for yearly service. Sold it out, bought a Breville Bambino for 300 bucks with 2 years of warranty. If it breaks every 2 years, it would be still cheaper than paying for high end italian machine service

@rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын

@@alarcilam You got the wrong machine and you have to look after it, keep the cleaning advice de-scaling etc. I have a friend that has had an Elisabeth for 3 years and did not encountered any problems yet keep in mind eventually most Machines can have a problem even the expensive types.

@owenguo409 Жыл бұрын

The steam on lelit is way better

@billos13 4 жыл бұрын

Where can i find parts for sage dual boiler?

@svm8058 4 жыл бұрын

Where are you from?

@billos13 4 жыл бұрын

@@svm8058 Greece

@svm8058 4 жыл бұрын

@@billos13 Try international sellers.

@guidog3068 4 жыл бұрын

If they are internal parts you won’t be able to buy them as Breville Sage won’t sell you them or let authorised service engineers sell them to you direct. Instead you’ll have to pay their service engineers to repair if the unit is out of warranty. Buy something reliable with industry standard parts that are readily available instead!

@fikofikret1522 3 жыл бұрын

Thats why u buy the lelit, because internal parts are mostly universal

@vladislavgeorgiev9494 4 жыл бұрын

Which one is better?

@svm8058 4 жыл бұрын

Both machines are very similar. I will publish short comparison on home-barista.

@trentbosnic 4 жыл бұрын

Always go for an italian machine if you can afford it, Espresso was born in Itality and they are still considered to be the best makers of espresso machines.

@PAD32 4 жыл бұрын

@@trentbosnic wow that argumentation is very irrationnal lol

@trentbosnic 4 жыл бұрын

@@PAD32 Hey unless you can afford a Synesso, you're far safer going with an Italian brand than a mass manufactured Sage.

@trentbosnic 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-nu8uc8wq8v Assumption where? I said Espresso comes from Italy, and they have the reputation for making the best espresso machines, with a couple minor exceptions - Sage is 100% not one of those exceptions. Buy whatever you want, but hand made Italian machines are the benchmark in the prosumer market and they will last a lifetime, which cannot be said for other machines.

@Andrey051089 4 жыл бұрын

Sage oracle for me

@fikofikret1522 3 жыл бұрын

Thats like i want to do nothing but able to drink an espresso which is close to the real thing and pay too much for it.

@Andrey051089 3 жыл бұрын

@@fikofikret1522 you need to try sage oracle first. There are no difference

@fikofikret1522 3 жыл бұрын

@@Andrey051089 actually there is a huge difference, if you are able to see the differences. I dont know any barista that would advise the touch. I think the touch is for the man that does not want to put much effort in the cup. And thats ok if you are satisfied.

@ping_me1vp 3 жыл бұрын

Appliance garbage vz machine

@amrelnaggar269 Жыл бұрын

You are comparing a star with a car

@jm7720 3 жыл бұрын

Breville (china, flimsy, break at year mark) Lelit (italian, solid build, zero bad reviews, last a long time) do the math. Lelit is the clear winner.

@SpektrikMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Breville is so far ahead on features

@kennyhills8002 2 жыл бұрын

@@SpektrikMusic How? Lelit Elizabeth has Steam boiler pre infusion and coffee blooming from the espresso boiler if you run it in eco mode. Not to mention you can program the Elizabeth to have more powerful steam by changing the service boiler temp using the PID. You can still get hot water out of the hot water tap on the Elizabeth if the steam/service boiler is turned off. The Lelit Elizabeth is also Better built with way way way better parts.

@timojohn9773 Жыл бұрын

@@kennyhills8002 all those things are possible with the DB aswell, tho. Changing boiler temp is easy with the DB aswell and flow profiling is possible with the Slayer mod. And the DB excels at temperature stability due to the double pids (boiler AND group head). I might as well argue, that if someone as Lance Hedrick can use a BDB for years, it can't be that bad. Both machines are great. The Lelit is probably a longer lasting machine, but the DB is also very repairable and has interesting ways to mod it and grow, without having to buy a whole new machine.

@MrTimjin Жыл бұрын

The two machine are equally plasticky inside. Both are nests of plastic tubes. You can further confirm this fact by checking Elizabeth weight is only 12 kg. As budget dual-boiler machines, corners must have been cut somewhere.

@ErkalTaskin Жыл бұрын

I thought the Elizabeth also has dual pid, or maybe this is not the newer version?