Lenny McLean on Paul Sykes, Steroids and the Fight that never was...

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3 жыл бұрын

Lenny McLean on Paul Sykes, Steroids and the Fight that never was...
Lenny's own words, taken from his book The Guv'nor: amzn.to/3rcBkGr
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Sykes Pencil Drawing by: natmossart
McLean Pencil Drawing by: stevenstreetinoriginalart
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Unearthed during research for the new and upcoming Paul Sykes book due in 2021: ‘An Expert in Violence: Paul Sykes’ - A chronological account of Sykes violent life throughout the 60's, 70', 80's and 90's, growing up, in the nick and in the ring...
www.warcrypress.co.uk/product...

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@user-nr8sd9vd8t
@user-nr8sd9vd8t 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes in the ring with ease, we’re forgetting Sykes was a very talented fighter and would’ve gone much further if he dedicated himself more, look how much Lenny leaves himself open in his fights in the ring and he’s often caught square on. On the cobbles who knows, but at the end of the day Paul Sykes could do everything Lenny could but better.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@seangallagher6075
@seangallagher6075 3 жыл бұрын
@@monitor4728 yeah sure.. Lenny got beat many times in the ring & on the Streets.. Those old Londoners spin more yarn than truth to sell those shity films & books that they churn out every week..
@mikestobbs4105
@mikestobbs4105 3 жыл бұрын
@@seangallagher6075 behave yourself Lenny never lost one on the cobbles. Hed have smashed sykes head in on cobbles. In the ring though Sykes would have done him in 2.
@forestpunk5739
@forestpunk5739 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes would have obviously been even more dangerous on the streets to what he was in the ring without any rules just as Lenny would. High level pro boxer, Superior overall physical ability & conditioning, clearly more mentally unhinged..Would have made short work of McClean on the streets or in the ring, it's common sense when comparing the two.
@forestpunk5739
@forestpunk5739 3 жыл бұрын
​@@monitor4728 I can't believe you are seriously (and confidently) using such logic to judge potential fight match ups between two individual people lol That's not how it works mate, I couldn't care less if Lenny was from the South Bronx or The Cotswolds lol you judge on the individuals fighting prowess, skills and track record. Such an odd attempt at justifying your opinion lol Sykes made short work of Roy Shaw twice behind bars, to which Roy himself admitted when questioned about it - "he was too big for me" - Quite bizarre that happened considering Roy was also from London, surely it shouldn't have been possible 😂 Saying that..I'm now also struggling to figure out how on earth Anthony Joshua was ever considered for a title fight considering he's from Watford, Hertfordshire. Madness!
@mickymac6571
@mickymac6571 3 жыл бұрын
Having big muscles and being able to bench press heavy weights doesn't make you a good fighter or bodybuilders would be world champion boxers.
@josephmills619
@josephmills619 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously .but have you seen Lenny fight.when it comes to butting ,biting eye gouging,all in Len would batter a lot of people.in Queensbury rules he has to stick to rules .
@mickymac6571
@mickymac6571 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephmills619 he’s not the only one 😎
@josephmills619
@josephmills619 3 жыл бұрын
Oh times have changed now .you seen all the massive eastern European (not racist) ,and other big strong guys around ,now they would defo fight anyone. When Paul was alive in 80s and 90s ,6'2(i think he was)was a big man, knowadays people are bigger.
@josephmills619
@josephmills619 3 жыл бұрын
I agree what you mean though muscles don't make fighting ability.look at k.s.w MMA for example.
@paulbanks2832
@paulbanks2832 3 жыл бұрын
Martyn Ford is the best fighter in the world
@Freddieduda
@Freddieduda 2 жыл бұрын
This fight was advertised on one of those big boxing posters with the undercard on it in my dad's pub in Glasgow. I was only a teenager at the time and there were a few from Glasgow including my dad heading down for the fight. I remember the disappointment when it was called off.
@grahammcrobert9123
@grahammcrobert9123 Жыл бұрын
that would have been a fight but lenny would have won
@MrCalibra32
@MrCalibra32 3 жыл бұрын
Despite all the debate on here any of these mentioned(sykes,lenny etc) would smash any of us keyboard contributors .its mad how people say he was shit in the ring only knocked piss heads out , not 1 person on here would have the bollocks to face any of them.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@monitor4728
@monitor4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing upgrade from . Agreed 👀
@stevesaunders591
@stevesaunders591 3 жыл бұрын
That is true but this is their game and how they make a living and they are all as hard as nails but we can still have our opinion
@buskingkarma2503
@buskingkarma2503 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevesaunders591 took the words out my mouth lol 👍
@fredwade4100
@fredwade4100 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a Dr Rackpull would. That man is dangerous
@IKB28513
@IKB28513 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes would’ve dusted McLean, no bother. He held records in prison for weight lifting plus he was a superior fighter. The funniest part of this video is McLean saying he never took steroids after that Doctor gave him them, he was never off the stuff.
@paulietv2162
@paulietv2162 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the funniest part was when Lenny said Sykes as a pushover and in the next sentence said he drove all the way to Blackpool to get the lowdown from Sykes ex-trainer
@paulietv2162
@paulietv2162 2 жыл бұрын
@@whoisit1100 The difference between Lenny and Sykes is that Sykes was BORN to be a fighter but Lenny always ASPIRED to be a fighter. Sykes never took training seriously and was always on the piss, but McLean was juicing and around gyms all his life but was not half the fighter Sykes was.
@mickpearson6184
@mickpearson6184 2 жыл бұрын
Mclean was 20 stone in the 80s and could bench press 500 pounds. I think he'd have nutted sykes senseless
@paulietv2162
@paulietv2162 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickpearson6184 Well, Eddie Hall can bench more than that and he can't box to save his life. As for nutting Sykes senseless, the 14 stone King of the Gypsies barely flinched when the Guvnor nutted him, despite giving up 6 stone to him.
@roastedicons1234
@roastedicons1234 Жыл бұрын
The fight never came because a week before he was supposed to be fighting lenny he was fighting at roof top gardens with the bouncers he got a cut eye apparently
@20thcenturygamingc64
@20thcenturygamingc64 3 жыл бұрын
My best mate was a humble lad, a disciplined boxer at a good level. He was sparring and training one day and a local hardman jumped in the ring to fight him to prove his reputation. My mate did not want to but had to defend himself. I watched him dismantle this streetfighter in seconds. The level Sykes boxing skills were would have been difficult to overcome for Lenny, legend that he is.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Usually what happens in the ring
@RSR423
@RSR423 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes would of beaten McClean in the ring, and smashed the snot out of him on the street with no ref to save him. Lenny, after all, was a bouncer, and Paul's favorite pastime was beating the piss out of doormen. Paul was like a Hereford bull with the biggest hands I've ever seen. He blew right through Shaw like he wasn't even there, twice, about ten seconds first time, then maybe fifteen seconds the next time. Thing about Paul was he hit hard and like lightening, saw him drop six screws trying block him in Durham nick SSU, like an old fashioned cowboy film as they slid down the walls knocked out cold. Funny man, in fact one of the funniest men I ever knew, but one mean bastard.
@bingleybiker6643
@bingleybiker6643 2 жыл бұрын
Paul fought roy shaw???
@paulevans3754
@paulevans3754 2 жыл бұрын
He liked buggering yp’s too apparently.
@RSR423
@RSR423 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulevans3754 You know how many times I've heard that bollocks? Now find one YP it happened to. I was there and it never happened mate.
@paulevans3754
@paulevans3754 2 жыл бұрын
@@RSR423 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/na-ojaeIx7bRpn0.html
@bingleybiker6643
@bingleybiker6643 2 жыл бұрын
@@RSR423 to be honest either way you look at it he was a nonce. His bird was 15 when he shagged her.
@rodeheath1
@rodeheath1 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes every day...
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@boxinghistorian2629
@boxinghistorian2629 3 жыл бұрын
Not on the street
@monitor4728
@monitor4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@boxinghistorian2629 agreed
@castlebilliards8712
@castlebilliards8712 3 жыл бұрын
@@monitor4728 agreed
@monitor4728
@monitor4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@castlebilliards8712 agreed 💯👀
@slava9734
@slava9734 3 жыл бұрын
mclean is/was a fairy tale. he was a tough doorman......but tough doormen/streetfighters walk into boxing gyms all the time and get their asses handed to them by novice boxers. sykes wasnt a great fighter.......but he was a legit pro with solid amateur credentials. mclean would have gotten smashed, plain and simple.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@allmodcons
@allmodcons 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes would've boxed his ears off.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Million percent, Levels!
@amshia0121
@amshia0121 3 жыл бұрын
Yammy B reckons he saw a lifer Paul Flint put him on his are in jail .
@mickgates9564
@mickgates9564 3 жыл бұрын
@@amshia0121 Not as impressive as it sounds mate. The fella that he speaks of doing that would have only been a child when Sykes was in his physical prime years. A few people were already getting the better of Sykes by the time he was into his 40's.
@luddyv4674
@luddyv4674 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDanybe Yeah I got that vibe from him as well. He seems like a sound bloke but he directly admitted on one of his recent videos about being personally biased to Bronson regarding the Sykes thing until some more sources told him differently. It seems to me like he probably sticks up the southern characters simply because he is from down that way himself and its some sort of pride thing. Fair enough really its just what people do
@dave8204
@dave8204 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickgates9564 Yeah but Dave Courtney claims to have been hanging around with the Krays when he would have been 6 so who knows?
@barnetthejosh
@barnetthejosh 2 жыл бұрын
Lenny never ran 15 miles in his life
@jamiefors5062
@jamiefors5062 11 ай бұрын
15 minutes more like
@billybigtime2808
@billybigtime2808 3 жыл бұрын
Could listen to that all day nice one
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Glad you enjoyed it
@tonygarforth539
@tonygarforth539 3 жыл бұрын
i would have backed sykes at 10 to one on lenny was a very lucky man that he got injured anyway hope you both rip
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bingleybiker6643
@bingleybiker6643 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes didnt get injured. He didnt fight lenny coz he got locked up for breaking 2 coppers jaws on the day he was supposed to fight lenny
@Helios601
@Helios601 3 жыл бұрын
Speed kills. I don't see a so called street fight ending up much different between these two. Were not taking about skilled mma fighters here, it's gonna come down to hands and a pro HW boxer in Sykes could make light work of Lenny. There's just far to much skill difference. I think the image of Lenny bum rushing Paul using head butts etc and avoiding all shots coming at him, is a long shot. I think its safe to assume Paul could do all that also. Speed kills.
@SwissCheese112
@SwissCheese112 3 жыл бұрын
lenny was very fast
@roybradley764
@roybradley764 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes all day in the ring but , a street fight with Lenny not a chance
@arranhorron5173
@arranhorron5173 Жыл бұрын
@@roybradley764 totally agree
@damonbervoets1435
@damonbervoets1435 2 жыл бұрын
I've read this book, was a very good read.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Biggest selling gangland book of all time I believe
@damonbervoets1435
@damonbervoets1435 Жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing You may be right. It was a very interesting read for sure. Haven't read any of the other gangland books as of yet. May have to read it again soon, it's been a few years now. Usually, books are boring, but this one was good!
@paulbanks2832
@paulbanks2832 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently ducked an all in against Lee Chapman of romford
@jimmcsweeney8939
@jimmcsweeney8939 2 жыл бұрын
As would anyone. Chapman was twenty years ahead of his time and even at his age now would flatten 99.9% of men
@joeowenstalkingsense4439
@joeowenstalkingsense4439 Жыл бұрын
Sykes (sober) would have flattened them all.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jimooky7113
@jimooky7113 Жыл бұрын
Lenny Sykes VS Paul McLean..... Now that would of been a fight!!!
@michaelbeveridge6208
@michaelbeveridge6208 3 жыл бұрын
People like McLean trying to trump professional fighters and blag themselves as being better is a joke. Don’t get me wrong. They may well do okay in an undisciplined street fight but, in a ring, with rules. No chance.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jackquack6352
@jackquack6352 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes wins all day long, a professional boxer beats a good street fighter every day and twice on a Tuesday morning when it's dour hour
@antonbless
@antonbless 3 жыл бұрын
Met Sykes in Hull prison in the 80s he was always kicking of and down the block and met him in the Gaiety pub Leeds roundhay road where he kicked of and beat up a taxi man and got 5yrs for it.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
What year was the taxi incident? Can you remember or roughly?
@antonbless
@antonbless 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing is was about 1988 and was InTime taxi base it happened next to gaiety pub
@lukepeacham9663
@lukepeacham9663 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes could beat Maclean on the street and in the ring. Sykes was an alcoholic with no dedication but all the skill and dynamite in both hands. Same with the fight with terry Mitchell. He fought Sykes when he was sober and Sykes was full of whiskey
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@tonkajjz109
@tonkajjz109 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes all day in the ring and out the bloke was an animal the only one who could have given him a go was Duffy he had youth size and from the stories he was something else I work with a load of older geordie lads and they still go on about the time lee went to Newcastle and literally laid half the doormen in town out looking for viv Graham
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@demimoffatt7900
@demimoffatt7900 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing wasn’t ashey going too do viv ? It was a set up and viv knew it when his car tyres were slashed , too say Duffy was alone is comical
@slickdon1
@slickdon1 Жыл бұрын
Lee Duffey would of ate him for dinner, so would McLean.
@tyee8760
@tyee8760 5 ай бұрын
Lenny pastes Sykes outside the ring. Throws him all around like a rag doll
@davidcorbett1713
@davidcorbett1713 3 жыл бұрын
Non of these 2 would of been any match on the street or in the ring with Charles Hawtrey. Sykes found out the hard way when he upset Hawtrey one afternoon in a pub he ended up gettin sparked out for half hour. McClean bottled it when Hawtrey offered him a 1 on 1 round the back of a restaurant in the carpark, Lenny refused to go outside
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Where’s he from? Where was the incident with Sykes?
@davidcorbett1713
@davidcorbett1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing he was from Hounslow London but spent time during filming in many different town & city's
@garylamb9809
@garylamb9809 3 жыл бұрын
It would have been a right carry on.
@davidcorbett1713
@davidcorbett1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@garylamb9809 my uncle said Charles was dressed in a bob hat short sleeved shirt and shorts just like he looked in Carry on Camping
@garylamb9809
@garylamb9809 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidcorbett1713 good job he didn't have his mate Kenneth with him. Now he was hard.
@mafftv3801
@mafftv3801 Жыл бұрын
True story, cockerill version of the gardiner fight makes me laugh
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 2 жыл бұрын
Street or ring Sykes would of beaten Lenny McLean and most of the other British hard men usually mentioned like Roy Shaw, Lee Duffy, Brian Cockerill etc due to the fact he was actually trained for professional competition and not a stranger to street fighting himself, he was more athletic than all of them guys. Sykes pales in comparison to other boxers though like Mike Tyson, Dillian Whyte, Danny Hodge, George Foreman, Hasim Rahman, Larry Holmes, Ike Ibeabuchi etc even in a street fight.
@jackthelad15
@jackthelad15 Жыл бұрын
Duffy allegedly put it to him in the nick and he didn't want it
@Dirdy1998
@Dirdy1998 2 жыл бұрын
In the ring or the street , Sykes would have bashed them all
@edof4827
@edof4827 3 жыл бұрын
I have read about Roy Shaw and Lenny McLean and Charles Bronson. I no what happened in the two altercation's between Paul Sykes and Roy Shaw. I wouldn't call them fights Roy Shaw wasn't even competitive he got battered with ease Charlie B was so frightened he sat looking at the wall until he had to go behind the door. A man who could do that to too men who are renowned for their toughness makes me think there's no way he would be intimidated by Lenny McLean. I would even doubt Paul Sykes would only want to fight with gloves on as the thing is Paul thought having the gloves hindered him from being able to cause the damage he wanted to. In or out of the ring I believe a prime Paul Sykes would of beaten Lenny McLean because he was vicious to his core he didn't have to psych himself up to fight he was pure testosterone once he landed on Lenny he would of been all over him. People from the south can never accept there top men could beat by northern men but in his prime on the streets Paul was the man in or out of prison. Also Lenny McLean claims to of had thousands of fights. In my opinion giving a mouthy drunk a dig isn't a fight but shows you what the difference between Sykes and McLean is Lenny thought giving some poor drunk a dig a fight Paul wouldn't of thought of it as giving someone a back hander and nothing more. Paul Sykes never thought about reputation he was Paul Sykes Lenny wanted people to no him fear him and say Lenny McLean is here. He wanted to be something that Paul was naturally.
@paulbanks2832
@paulbanks2832 3 жыл бұрын
Where were these Shaw and Sykes fights? I've seen an interview with Sykes where he says he respects Shaw
@mg6844
@mg6844 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulbanks2832 whilst they were both in the same jail Paul
@thedude3866
@thedude3866 3 жыл бұрын
I smell bullshit skip
@paulbanks2832
@paulbanks2832 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamstockman5278 But Sykes mentions Shaw in the documentary. Has a lot of respect for him.
@jockkardashian.9407
@jockkardashian.9407 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamstockman5278 I think it's also mentioned in the book Gaol Hawk: Forged in Sheffield.
@buskingkarma2503
@buskingkarma2503 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have put my money on Sykes gloves on and mclean gloves off lol
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Fair assessment
@craigisaac806
@craigisaac806 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes was a well schooled amateur boxer as a kid got banged up for years then turned pro at 30 when he came out fought for a British title against gardener ,Sykes would av done Kenny gloves or no gloves make no mistake about it different levels
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@christopherconway8836
@christopherconway8836 Жыл бұрын
What a pair of authors well donejamie boyal at war cry publishers
@lamby1074
@lamby1074 3 жыл бұрын
Any footage of Lenny being beaten anywhere?
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen any
@jimmcsweeney8939
@jimmcsweeney8939 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, someone has the tape of Roy Shaw beating him in the first fight but wants stupid money to release it
@dannykirton6445
@dannykirton6445 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes would have done McLean in the ring very easily, Just like Cliff Fields did TWICE (both ko's) and Jonny Waldron (ko) and Kevin Paddock (pts)
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely
@jayawol777
@jayawol777 3 жыл бұрын
is there any footage of these fights?
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayawol777 No MCLEAN made sure of that
@dalegribble7935
@dalegribble7935 3 жыл бұрын
So who did Lenny fight instead of Sykes and what was the result? Answers on a postcard 🤪
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Got beat by Kevin Paddock
@dalegribble7935
@dalegribble7935 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing well done kid 👌🏼 and he was a blown up middleweight
@beakycole8679
@beakycole8679 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes woulda punched McLean in the fuckin earole until he swum off
@petemayes1940
@petemayes1940 Жыл бұрын
When Sykes fought John l Gardner I understand he did not bother training much for it.
@RonWylie-gk5lc
@RonWylie-gk5lc 3 жыл бұрын
Thats bollocks about Sykes turning away to tell his corner to shut up, absolute lies, Sykes put up a very good show but John Gardiner out boxed him, experience and proper training really showed. Sykes really had talent and would have took him apart in one round. They were completely different animals
@chriswright6245
@chriswright6245 2 жыл бұрын
If Paul used his skills then I think he would have best Lenny in 4. I feel he was rushed because of his age. Pity he didn't turn pro after the 73 abas. Could have had a good life.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
100 percent
@chriswright6245
@chriswright6245 Жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing what's your thoughts on the Gardner stoppage? Pity Gardner never got a world title shot. He was decent
@Alex21441
@Alex21441 Жыл бұрын
Paul Sykes could do them all EXCEPT for Bill the Bomb! Billy Williams was on a whole different level, trained with Angelo Dundee, Ali's trainer, even Mclean backed down from him at Camden Palace. Bill the Bomb was a boxer but a criminal. Famous sparring session between him and Muhammad Ali and afterwards Ali said "who the hell is this guy!" Paul Sykes was a good boxer, but Bill was a different breed, skill and mentality folded into one.
@seanbongs
@seanbongs 2 жыл бұрын
Who's the narrater, sounds like Tommy Walsh of DIY fame
@Rightturnclyde78
@Rightturnclyde78 Жыл бұрын
I don't know either men, but read a lot about them and seen all the footage one thing about sykes lookin at his manorisms he could certainly have a go
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
True
@dilligaf2386
@dilligaf2386 2 жыл бұрын
See even back then fighter got on the gear.
@richardtuffnell9886
@richardtuffnell9886 2 жыл бұрын
What about lew Yates?
@davidhutchinson6120
@davidhutchinson6120 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Pickering would have beaten them both at the same time - "Come on, let's have a bare-knuckle then!"
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@elainekerslake6865
@elainekerslake6865 3 жыл бұрын
Now your talking .Ronnie the legend Pickering.
@RonWylie-gk5lc
@RonWylie-gk5lc 3 жыл бұрын
WHO? lol
@vontrap6942
@vontrap6942 2 жыл бұрын
Who's Ronnie Pickering? :)
@zbox8838
@zbox8838 Жыл бұрын
Maybe not in the ring, but on the streets, one winner, Lenny absolutely no question
@arranhorron5173
@arranhorron5173 Жыл бұрын
without a doubt
@mack2183
@mack2183 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes in his prime would have destroyed him.
@benpickett3424
@benpickett3424 3 жыл бұрын
Lenny McLean would of been beaten seenless fact Lenny saying he took steroids once haaaa give me a break go look at him when he fought Roy shaw to later on them for years still a hard bastard oh Paul Sykes would of been way to fast and technical for him
@manwithnoname6580
@manwithnoname6580 3 жыл бұрын
He was taking roids for years.
@benpickett3424
@benpickett3424 3 жыл бұрын
@@manwithnoname6580 off course he was I'm not judging him just know what I see I don't wanna talk I'll off dead or anyone but il be honest Paul Sykes would of beat him easy in a boxing ring
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 3 жыл бұрын
@@benpickett3424 would not have even been a contest.....Sykes was a different league
@mikegallagher3700
@mikegallagher3700 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes easy in one 👊💥
@llewellynwilliams1956
@llewellynwilliams1956 3 жыл бұрын
was away with paul in "risley remand center" many moons back he was funny not a bully at all got on with every one. he always went around with just shorts an t shirt screws said nothink ha ha "rip paul an lenny"
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you drop us an email warcry@roobix.co.uk interested in any info.
@KryptonitetoallBS
@KryptonitetoallBS Жыл бұрын
I've watched all the available footage of both men and in the boxing ring there would have only been 1 winner, and it wouldn't have lasted long!
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@wanabepetegreen1132
@wanabepetegreen1132 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think for one minute that Paul could not street fight, he could be just as ruthless as anyone if provoked .....trust me.
@jimmcsweeney8939
@jimmcsweeney8939 2 жыл бұрын
He walked away when Lee Duffy provoked him
@wanabepetegreen1132
@wanabepetegreen1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmcsweeney8939 yes there's a lot of hero's about since his death.....wonder why,🤔
@jimmcsweeney8939
@jimmcsweeney8939 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanabepetegreen1132 Duffy died 16 years before Sykes
@wanabepetegreen1132
@wanabepetegreen1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmcsweeney8939 So you are. Now speaking about dead men that can't speak for themselves,...get a grip ffs.
@jimmcsweeney8939
@jimmcsweeney8939 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanabepetegreen1132 defend? I'm bigging them up respek stylee
@michaelmoran9399
@michaelmoran9399 3 жыл бұрын
Lenny was very lucky sykes got injured paul would have done him easy Lenny was no John L Gardner.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, assuming Sykes kept fit
@tommy2guns220
@tommy2guns220 3 жыл бұрын
In a ring 100% on the streets 50/50
@Hudson_bay_xlbully
@Hudson_bay_xlbully 3 жыл бұрын
lenny would of poggered sykes
@tommy2guns220
@tommy2guns220 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hudson_bay_xlbully I highly dought it in the ring might of been different on the streets
@michealbreathnach2928
@michealbreathnach2928 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes would have beaten McLean anywhere and fairly easily at that. Street, ring. Both very tough men but Sykes was just a better fighter.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dieselweaselywoowoo
@dieselweaselywoowoo 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not so sure, Paul was the obvious Favorite but Lenny was an animal on the gear
@michealbreathnach2928
@michealbreathnach2928 3 жыл бұрын
@@dieselweaselywoowoo No doubt Lenny was a monster and too much for just about any normal man but Paul was a big man too and he was a very hard old school bastard too, in and out of jail. Lenny wouldnt faze him with his roaring coz Sykes was just as nasty. He woulda been used to sparring and fighting some of the best big young prime heavyweights in England at the time and scrapping with the few fellas on the street mad, stupid or unlucky enough to face him.
@ianway2725
@ianway2725 3 жыл бұрын
Gear does not help you against a skilled fighter end of
@thomasbrennan5194
@thomasbrennan5194 3 жыл бұрын
As lenny says Sykes would have been a pushover
@suchasin
@suchasin 2 жыл бұрын
ow about them fighting on the street, but with boxing gloves?
@samsum3738
@samsum3738 3 жыл бұрын
All of what i have seen and read of Paul Sykes over the past few days makes me think Sykes was the better man . Although , as the saying goes , you have to be there to see it . Even video cannot truly tell the full story of a man s boxing skills .
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@SwissCheese112
@SwissCheese112 3 жыл бұрын
look how his kids turned out, if we're talking about better men, lenny wins
@DH1985-MB
@DH1985-MB 2 жыл бұрын
@@SwissCheese112 completely agree - Sykes was a very talented boxer and could have probably done something if he'd have gone down a different path. he would definitely beat Lenny in a straight up boxing match. But to call Paul 'a better man' is probably a stretch too far. Ruined his own life and that of his kids who both ended up with life sentences for murder.
@mikehawk9156
@mikehawk9156 Жыл бұрын
@@DH1985-MB I don't think he was referring to his character. Pretty sure he was on about ability.
@DH1985-MB
@DH1985-MB Жыл бұрын
@@mikehawk9156 Maybe your right mate - if they were I agree. I'll have just been on one the day i wrote that mate - no harm intended.
@melseymizouri4792
@melseymizouri4792 3 жыл бұрын
Both hard men
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MrLiquidator67
@MrLiquidator67 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ever witness Lenny fight another bare knuckle fighter on the cobbles?
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t read many accounts
@MrLiquidator67
@MrLiquidator67 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing So all these people saying Lenny would have beaten Sykes on the cobbles are just going by what he wrote about himself with no evidence that he ever even fought another bare knuckle fighter in his life.
@luckylyrics89
@luckylyrics89 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that !!! Get me some of them steroids that make you run 15miles lol
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Ha Ha!
@alanjax7685
@alanjax7685 2 жыл бұрын
what about bill mckenzie? (william mckenzie from woking}
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Will have to check him out
@antonlestevo8273
@antonlestevo8273 2 жыл бұрын
What's a choke? £500 ?
@markmitchell2282
@markmitchell2282 2 жыл бұрын
Paul would’ve absolutely battered him
@johnmason9286
@johnmason9286 2 жыл бұрын
It's true they are hard men in towns city's and villages the ones who are the dangerous ones are the quiet ones don't go shooting the mouths of its the farmers you got to watch out for and yes I met paddy Duffy frence Warren Black tyny caskin over the years but tiny caskin seen him fight aview times I lived with him and his family back 8os on his gypsy camp only the police was scared of him
@staytrue5307
@staytrue5307 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes in the ring McLean on the cobbles
@markadams3008
@markadams3008 3 жыл бұрын
boxing is boxing. sykes was a pro. let that sink in. i’ve seen mclean’s fights. he was an amateur. his technique was of a pub brawler. you’ll be claiming he would beat up superman next. i’d give it a round with or without gloves to sykes.
@staytrue5307
@staytrue5307 3 жыл бұрын
@@markadams3008 more to street fights than boxing, this coming from a ex boxer, don't be mad pal
@markadams3008
@markadams3008 3 жыл бұрын
@@staytrue5307 you’re talking absolute bollocks, if all you gleaned from mclean and sykes’ lives respectively is that this would be a street fight. i ain’t your pal. with all due respect.
@staytrue5307
@staytrue5307 3 жыл бұрын
@@markadams3008 grow up dude, your pathetic
@markadams3008
@markadams3008 3 жыл бұрын
@@staytrue5307 it’s you’re. seriously, just keep it shut because clowns like you open it and just embarrass yourself. i’m still shaking my head in disbelief at your sheer bollocks about the cobbles and “street fighting”. ok boxer man
@mikemike5973
@mikemike5973 3 жыл бұрын
Haha Paul sykes was a pro he would have knocked lenny out
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@chucklombardo2114
@chucklombardo2114 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing do u no shaun Smith the debt collector
@1984chrisyB
@1984chrisyB 3 жыл бұрын
Just because he was a pro boxer doesn't mean he'd do Lenny on the streets look what happened to Paulie Malignaggi great pro and got his ass handed to him off Artom Lobov in a bare knuckle
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
True, but it was arranged as a boxing match
@arranhorron5173
@arranhorron5173 Жыл бұрын
mclean and sykes were in for an all in on the cobbles but sykes got a cut eye and phoned lenny said fight was off when lenny got up to 22stone i thought he was very dangerous
@Bennyboy12
@Bennyboy12 3 жыл бұрын
Fck me jackanorys changed since I was young. Usually you had judi dench reading a lovely story with a happy ending.
@wanabepetegreen1132
@wanabepetegreen1132 2 жыл бұрын
No way is this Lenny's voice.
@paulbarrett22
@paulbarrett22 Жыл бұрын
its alf garnett
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
It's an actor duuuuur 😁
@ryanmcgrath1102
@ryanmcgrath1102 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the steroid he was given
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
No idea, it's from Lenny's book
@Richard61200
@Richard61200 3 жыл бұрын
This is not Lennys voice
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Its an actor reading his book
@Thcj1973
@Thcj1973 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing i owe you an apology sir i listend to a podcast last week and thought you were trying to pass it off as Charlie bronson. I said it was pure pish but honestly didnt realise it was actors
@ThePegasus101
@ThePegasus101 3 жыл бұрын
sykes in the ring..lenny on the cobbles
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Fair view
@tonygarforth539
@tonygarforth539 6 ай бұрын
wish i was getting a bet on sykes at evens in is prime like taking candy of a baby
@alien1972
@alien1972 3 жыл бұрын
Would of been a great fight. But without a doubt Sykes would have won in a boxing match. In the streets im not so sure.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@roathripper
@roathripper Жыл бұрын
ah, so paul never turned his back after all - he was just telling off his corner! I always thought it unfair how the commentator (harry c?) writes him off immediately saying 'his big chance in life has come and gone'. In today's pro game paul would have made a nice career to see him tidy in retirement.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends who you believe. He’d definitely had enough, I don’t think that makes him a coward
@roathripper
@roathripper Жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing i agree, and as you have put the gloves on yourself I rate your opinion above mine in that respect. Some in the boxing industry called dubois a quitter because he took the knee against joyce while others in the game were more forgiving. it would be another sadness in the life of PS if that singular moment effectively wrote him off from getting further work in the ring.
@Beesa10
@Beesa10 3 жыл бұрын
I've got to be honest, I would love to have seen a fight between these two. My money would be on Sykes, I think Mclean would've had more heart in the fight but he was a prize fighter and doorman for the most part. Sykes was a big strong bloke and experienced pro boxer, I think he would've probably won, but a fight is a fight, it can go either way.
@Bullseye50
@Bullseye50 Жыл бұрын
Who cares ? Bully boys are the lowest form of human beings in my opinion .
@Beesa10
@Beesa10 Жыл бұрын
@@Bullseye50 Mclean was a bully, Sykes was a rapist.
@bottlewaddle6677
@bottlewaddle6677 Жыл бұрын
is that Bronson narrating?
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
No an actor reading his words
@mack2183
@mack2183 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes any day lew yates
@WareBare
@WareBare Жыл бұрын
Sykes would of smashed Lenny in a ring Lenny would of smashed Sykes on the cobbles 🥊
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Who knows
@steft7903
@steft7903 10 ай бұрын
The Guv'nor! Mate lent me the book. The first book i finished in one sitting.
@suchasin
@suchasin 3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie Pickering would iron them all out flat
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Probably
@citizenbuttsY
@citizenbuttsY 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@jacklemonhead1.945
@jacklemonhead1.945 3 жыл бұрын
As a famous hardman once said you get the story of Lenny but don't expect the truth.We will never know.Like they say in parts of the world the hard crazy men put holes in you rather than argue.Some say that's the cowards
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
True
@jacklemonhead1.945
@jacklemonhead1.945 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing 👍
@jamesbell256
@jamesbell256 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes beats len in ring , on street no
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@trustnoone9931
@trustnoone9931 3 жыл бұрын
Listen if sykes could fight off sharks I think we all know who'd come out on top..
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jamielongschhlong9277
@jamielongschhlong9277 3 жыл бұрын
Like your sarcasm 😆
@swimdeep189
@swimdeep189 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's an expert.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 2 жыл бұрын
True
@brettsykes1206
@brettsykes1206 3 жыл бұрын
Roy shaw fought just as many pro fights as paul did av read a few books on both men only difference being shaw fought under an assumed name as he was on run from botstal at the time and he was a middle wight
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Pro? Are you sure?
@brimcilroy9002
@brimcilroy9002 Жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing Roy Shaw fought 10 Pro bouts connected to joey piles stable winning all 10 with 6 by way of ko, Shaw fought under a different name as he was on the run at the time I believe.
@e.smiles450
@e.smiles450 3 жыл бұрын
15 miles at that weight ?
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
That's what the man said ;)
@josephmills619
@josephmills619 3 жыл бұрын
Is this from the govnor,or made up.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
From his book
@josephmills619
@josephmills619 3 жыл бұрын
@@warcrypublishing I saw on other vid, how Thiers so much footage of Paul in that guys safe you were saying about.hope he does something with it.another documentary would be brilliant.
@bronson2k192
@bronson2k192 3 жыл бұрын
As if big Lenny was on tren 🤣🤣🤣🤣 animal 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
His words
@bronson2k192
@bronson2k192 3 жыл бұрын
Just the word potent made me think tren instantly lol must’ve been
@mikehawk9156
@mikehawk9156 Жыл бұрын
Couple of bullies in reality.Although I wouldn't have actually told them....
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Ha Ha!
@r.p.mcmurphy22
@r.p.mcmurphy22 Жыл бұрын
Paul Sykes was the only one out of all of them that wasn't a sted head he was naturally big and hard and was a trained fighter he was the real deal compared to the rest. you take steroids away from all these other names and they'd be fuck all none of them wud have lasted 2 second with Paul Sykes FACT!!
@thedark-hk5ps
@thedark-hk5ps Жыл бұрын
In a boxing ring Sykes would have beaten lenny with his jab and left hook
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lukedavison2254
@lukedavison2254 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes too fit for him
@paulsmith3134
@paulsmith3134 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Cockerill was also offered a fight with Paul Sykes, which he mentions in his book, The Resurrection of Brian Cockerill. Brian was a Street fighter who had bashed Lee Duffy and Viv Graham didn't want to know. He weighed 24 stone, benched 630 pounds, squatted 800 pounds and could really fight. He would have been a good test for Paul Sykes or Lennie McLean. I will get slaughtered for this but I think Brian in his prime might have been able to beat Paul or Lenny in a straightener.
@neilrogers6767
@neilrogers6767 3 жыл бұрын
Those stats are a lie. 630lb my arse.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
He certainly had the strength, not sure if he could Box to any standard like Sykes etc.
@nickybower9981
@nickybower9981 3 жыл бұрын
Was that before or after Brian had trials for the Miami dolphins because of his size
@monitor4728
@monitor4728 3 жыл бұрын
Cockerill is a known BULLSHITER who’s brain is fried dm from being a speed head for years ....don’t believe half the shite he spews
@smithy4297
@smithy4297 3 жыл бұрын
Cockerill was a monster of a man but if he didn’t land a monster punch within 30 seconds he would be blowing out of his arse. Sykes could go all day being a trained athlete he would have weathered the storm or boxed him at range then take him apart quite easily in Queensbury rules
@stevens5541
@stevens5541 2 жыл бұрын
Sykes would kill mcclean
@jongibirdi1394
@jongibirdi1394 2 жыл бұрын
Reckon lenny wud ave done him
@camouflage873
@camouflage873 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily for Lenny it didn't happen
@dannyhancock6354
@dannyhancock6354 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes would have done Lenny
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
In a boxing ring, for sure
@jongibirdi1394
@jongibirdi1394 2 жыл бұрын
Mclean
@yamahajog04
@yamahajog04 2 жыл бұрын
shame non of them fought Bartley Gorman
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@deeder2000
@deeder2000 2 жыл бұрын
On the cobbles as Lenny stated in his book; I believe he was never beaten.
@mikegallagher3700
@mikegallagher3700 2 жыл бұрын
Folklore you fool
@darrenparker3633
@darrenparker3633 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Cliff Fields he battered McLean Twice proper solid Northerner too.
@warcrypublishing
@warcrypublishing 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a very hard man indeed
@cometgamer6697
@cometgamer6697 3 жыл бұрын
He was the best out of them all even roy shaw said it.
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 3 жыл бұрын
@@cometgamer6697 Yes shaw had the ability to tell the truth ,,,,,,unlike MCLEAN
@darrenfry4689
@darrenfry4689 3 жыл бұрын
Yep in the seventies cliff was an animal in the ring or cobbles
@Mac-Mac-ps3qf
@Mac-Mac-ps3qf 3 жыл бұрын
Cliff fields was a southerner, from Dunstable
@alberlusconi1
@alberlusconi1 3 жыл бұрын
Sykes wins in the ring, but Lenny would win on the streets
@jimlock6152
@jimlock6152 3 жыл бұрын
I’m afraid Sykes would utterly destroy him both on the street and in the ring..,
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