i love it that a the phawx 'quick look' video still ends up being almost 40 minutes nobody else puts this much effort and goes this in-depth. As someone who loves deep dive-type videos keep up the good work!

love the fact that it can be used as a tablet. would love to purchase.

Literally the only reviewer giving positives and negatives

That comparison graphic with the TDP modes was wonderfully put together. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to do the test.

Really loving how the first frame of your videos now are the thumbnail. Super nice touch :)

I can appreciate an honest review that doesn't just say "everything about it is great" clearly some things are great like the screen size but there's still so many bugs. Definitely will follow the progression

For all the reviewers of this handheld you're the only one that gives indept technical review that I like

"Quick look" 40 minute video Oh yeah~ This is the coverage I was waiting for.

First video i've seen that's worth a damn and not just giving the info we can get off the box art.

Fantastic work, thank you for an in-depth review, very rare right now.

Thank you for the commitment to speaking about the Native Portrait issue and highlighting the landscape screen, VRR, etc. I love that there is competition in this space but I'm sad that I don't have a solution that does both. I.E Rog Ally's Screen, Lenovo's True Strike Controllers. Perhaps I should wait and see what the 3DS like handheld PC will do next year.

Best review yet. Hope you make a killing from the views. Can’t wait for more coverage on the Go!

Been waiting for this, thanks so much Phawx!

Phawx ranting about vertical mouse mode with the hockey puck add-on actually ended up selling me on this thing. That looks awesome. Real PC gaming with mouse input without having to attach peripherals.

Are you still planning on releasing the additional videos on the legion go?

Legion Go is so flexible and versatile, it's insane. Hopefully all the kinks that can be worked out with software and drivers are perfected in the coming weeks.

"A quick look". Hahaha this was so in depth thanks for sharing. I didn't about the cpu bias of the performance mode. That's a very cool finding

This is such a cool design. The ability to use it as a tablet is pretty unique.

You're always the best for these sorts of things. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!

This is why I love the Phaux. Whenever a new handheld comes out he’s one of my favorite KZfaqrs to get data from. Thanks again!

Been refreshing youtube at work for the past 4hours waiting for a Phawx video xD

This is great. However in the next in-depth review video, we need The Phawx to provide some insights into the speakers, and screen tearing w/o VRR. Personally I haven't experienced any tearing on the Go, as an existing rog ally user. However as a lot of people mentioned, the speakers on Legion Go suck. This is the main reason that I haven't decided to keep the Legion Go but not the ally.

The Legion GO is a mess. Lenovo Legion Space is borderline useless, makes Armoury Crate look like a miracle in comparison. You can not reconfigure any of the controller buttons, sticks, etc. to anything you would really want. There is the touchpad but there is no right click or left click and you can not assign any of the button to be right click or left click, ..... wtf lenovo!?!? This make using the right stick, and right bumper/right trigger in desktop mode on the Ally for mouse looks like a genius implementation. Additionally whether if the 1 or 2 controller is attached changes how the controller behaves. The best thing about the detachable controllers is that you can leave the pointless non-configurable controllers at home, get the weight saving and use it like a small tablet. The on screen performance monitor fails to stay on screen, just try it with BG3, you can not see it anymore. The faster memory is not getting you better fps in 2077. Stupid AMD software keeps crying about the wrong edition and you just can not pull up the AMD Adrenalin UI. The FPS mode is a gimmick, you can not play competitively against someone using a real gaming mouse (think G502, G pro, Deathadder, EC2 etc.). A really serious problem that plagues the Legion GO is that it is actually a portrait screen. And when it shows it is nasty and make the whole thing feel half baked. Old games, dosbox stuff will have all sorts of fit with this that would never be an issue on the ROG Ally. WTF is with the portrait screen anyways?! You launch a linux installer, or Acronis, or anything else text based direct booting some liveCD iso and this crap is just going to mess with you. Annoying as F!@$%!!! On top of it all the SSD run way too hot, temps while gaming using the max power tdp profile cause the SSD to hit 75C or higher, seriously?! In contrast the SSD in the ROG Ally is still a hair below 60C. The thing that was suppose to be the saving grace, the TB4 E-GPU, that is so hit and miss, it works with some and fails with others, just blue screens over and over. I really want to like the Lenovo Legion GO, but it feels at this time to be really half baked. It also just feels heavy. It its best mode of use is without the controllers and having it stand on its own kick stand, and with whatever kb/mouse and controller you would really want. And the final insult is that Legion Go Space puts the "store front" front and center, that is just obnoxious. It is trying to sell you crap all the time, whereas the Amoury Crate puts your game library front and center.

Thank you, some great information in here! Wasn't expecting to get a lecture on APUs in handhelds and Windows power modes but that was great! Always good to get recommendations with solid knowledge to back it up. My Go hasn't been delivered yet but I'm looking forward to more videos. Also you confirmed my concerns about the dpad. Doesn't seem optimal for me but hopefully it won't ruin the experience.

So far this is the most comprehensive and technical review that we all want to see, great work! Now I am looking forward to your comprehensive review especially to demystify whether the lack of VRR can be compensated by the 144hz high refresh rate. Looking forward!

The one we've all been waiting for! Cant wait to dig in!!

I love the technical focus of this review (and channel), I was curious about what you said about tuning the ally, wonder if you can leave some info (doesn’t necessarily have to be a vod) on the steps taken (for EDP and saving mode)

Fantastic video, thank you. One piece of constructive feedback is that while you were filming the hands-on parts I assume you are recording your audio in some kind of "stereo mode" and I found it a bit distracting at times when listening through headphones when your voice switched between channels a bit. Not a big deal, just would be more comfortable in forced mono I think. Have a good one!

For us who moved from a lifetime of PlayStation and this is our first PC ever not just a handheld, can we get a video explaining all the graphics settings and what do we need to change/adjust for general gaming and what’s needed to be changed for certain games to get the best performance out of this over both battery and plugged in? Since because of your enthusiasm and reviews I got one and I love it. But I’m so overwhelmed with how much I need to do/learn just to using it especially coming after 20 years of Sony PS plug n play.

Thanks for explaining the AMD eGPU issue here. I was trying to get up and running with an Akitio Node Titan and an RX 6700 XT and just couldn't get it to work without removing Lenovo's drivers. Thanks for confirming that this was the only solution. Guess I'll have to return this card for a 4060 (same price) or spend more for a 4070. Really want my Legion Go to be an all-in-one solution for TV and on-the-go gaming, and this will have to be the way it happens.

At this point I just hope ROG do a revision of the Ally and move the SD card slot and would would happily take it over the Go

There's a protective foil on your trackpad. Great video 👌

I appreciate the candor, the depth, and the opinions.

What a huge difference from other reviews that only focus on features but not on the actual real life user experience and how it feels to actually use it, all the while going into detail on some specs along the way. Very well done! I hope in the full review you can really stress test it as a lot of the issues the Ally had reviewers didnt highlight until ppl had already spent money

First time I'm seeing/hearing from this dude and he states the exact frustration I've had with the AMDs 'Adrenalin Edition' within the first 4 mins. Subscribed.

You know Lenovo is a big company and can fix the portrait screen issue with software. Early adopter complains about early issues...ugh.

I followed your suggestion on the Performance / efficiency setting, but it’s still valid after all the bios and legion space updates? Still waiting for your final review, the only competent one on this device (and it was only a Quick Look! ) I would like to see also the differences between different uma configurations, I think there’s a lot of confusion and you are the man that can clarifies definitely which configurations is the best !

Excellent 👌👍 review you have surpassed your peers !

Literally the first game I went to play after installing a TB of games was Red Dead 2 and I was losing my mind. After trying Hellblade my faith was restored in my purchase. But thank goodness for this video!! Of all the games I downloaded, the first one I try is Red Dead 2 lol. Go figurev

I find the legion go the most confortable because of the detachable controllers, I use it with my xreal airs and I don't have to hold the whole device while playing

Best review on youtube so far 👌

Lenovo already announced multiple bug fixes as good as weekly.

I listened in to this man because he really knows what he’s talking about. Listen to him. I bought a Lenovo go. Even though I have an ASUS ROG STRIX G15 and I love my go.

@ThePawx the problem about the resolution is NOT ABOUT NOT HAVING A LANDSCAPE PANEL, it's due to improper/missing edid information! This is like the old times, with the 16:10 screens (1680x1050) or exactly the same as with the steamdeck in windows: As there are no proper 16:9 resolutions added to the EDID information of the screen (and probably in drivers too), any old game (or with an old/strange engine, like visual novels) will crash, display rubbish or show a black screen. It's exactly the same thing that happened to me with the SD in windows. The same thing: LACK OF RESOLUTIONS ON THE PANEL. It should have all 16:9 and 5:4, simply for compatibility, showing black bands. Lenovo... those guys are just idiots.

I’ve been waiting for this, thanks so much for putting in the time to make it! Also, looks like your trackpad cover is still on

Really look forward to getting a video pushing the tdp and overall performance of this thing. Thank Phawx your a stud broski.

Curious to see benchmarks after applying the 780M driver. I did that and got WAY better performance

awesome video love the attention to detail and cant wait to see the optimization video

I really like the fight-mouse-leave it to the folks who continue to supply the world with TrackPoints to provide a unique pointer implementation. Can't wait to see how well the Legion works with Linux (in terms of its input modes).

I think Octopath Traveler 2 is another example of the portrait handheld screen issues. Never ran full 1080 on AYN Loki Max (Windows) but could get it full 1080 on Ayaneo Air Plus (Chimera OS/Linux). Super frustrating.

I'll wait a month before i go and buy one. I will stick with the ally for now.

Good review and honest about the positives nad negatives.

Excellent review of your initial thoughts Sir. Thanks for sharing!

Only content creators got them early however people who preordered were delayed!

Why did you leave the protective film on the track pad? I have a Go too and once you peel the film off, the track pad is matte and not reflective at all.

Definitely made the right choice on skipping the 6800u gen of windows handhelds, everything was underwhelming and overpriced It finally feels like we're getting decent competition and alternatives I'm pretty happy with my Steam Deck but the Legion Go seems very very tempting

Very informative thank you for all the critical information I still look forward getting one.

never thought of tablet mode.. really nice

This is the first windows handheld that meets my requirements. Must be windows, check. Must have right side touchpad for mouse control - check. It's a bit bulky but it does have what I need for my gog point n clicks, and my pinball emporium virtual pinball tables, and a nice option if I want to sign up for gamepass from time to time.

Ive been excited to hear your early opinion on this

another good honest review about Legoin Go. I own a ROG Ally, it's not perfect but I love it. When I watched Dave2D's review on Legion Go when he bash Ally so hard and went over the moon for Legion Go.. something felt off for me. You and Russ from Retro Game Corps are doing great job. Thank you for the hard work and giving out a good objective review

Legion GO would benefit hugely from support for Chimera OS. Windows doesn't make sense at this point

Phawx - We are doing a technical "quick" review Me - , suuuuuure it is.... Also me -

I love that thumbnail to video transition. Never seen it before. I might steal that idea if you dont mind :)

Best Buy has my Legion Go arriving 9 days late so not so good job by them lol

I have a steamdeck and honestly I mostly use it around the house for playing comfortably, but anytime I take it out of the house it's in its case so the puck wouldn't really be a problem to me

Great video! Could you do a comparison between the Legion Go, Ayaneo Kun and other large display handhelds in your full review? Thank you for the great content.

Should I keep my ally ? Or return it in this return period for the go ? I know the vrr and landscape is big for people but can I get some non bias comments and opinions so I can make a better decision ? This video helped but it’s difficult lol .

Man, I am just torn between getting this or the Ally. I think the Go's bigger screen, 800p interger scaling, trackpad, apparently better performance, FPS mode and detachable controllers are super cool... but Ally is more portable, has better speakers, quieter fans, VRR, more mature software and a landscape screen (I heard the Go's portrait display is problematic for older games, which I plan on playing a lot). I've heard mixed things about ergonomics, build quality, controls and battery though. I think I might be leaning towards the Ally, especially since I can find it second hand for about 3/4 of the price of a new Go. Any suggestions?

I am surprised at how much trouble you are having with detaching/reattaching the controllers. On my Go they seem to pop off and on very easily with no issues.

Hmm, must try this driver problem with AMD eGPUs once my Legion Go gets here (it is delayed in Europe). It should be possible to manually install latest AMD Radeon 780M drivers for the SoC and proper drivers (i.e. 7600M XT for GPD G1) for eGPU.

Seems like this is the best on the market purely because of features like eGPU, but it’s still quite buggy

Phawx just tells the truth....that's why i always buy based on his opinion. Portrait screen is a no go for me unless i use only for newer games or casual media use. Amazing video phawx!!!😎😎😎

I asked about the Red Dead Redemption 2 window issue on Reddit, and so glad it got addressed in this video. Now I can’t play with my Legion Go or OneXFly so much anymore, and I’ll stick with ROG Ally from now on.

Phawxing hell! Been waiting for this 😅

Finally, a proper review!

So how do you fix the issues with the portrait display causes game issues?

Why do they use non-native horizontal panels in the first place?

Thanks the phawx,i hate how tech reviewer nowday doesnt go with in depth review,what happen to the community,other channel videos keep repeating the same thing,just basic overview of what we already know,only added some benchmark to complete the videos not actually mentioning what we consumer should be alert with

Thank you for this great and honest review 😊

Phawx is the GOAT. That is all that needs to be said.

I'm still waiting on mine

What this review shows me is a 7840u/z1e is what it is regardless of RAM and landscape panels are even more important than I thought they were

Who do you think you are wearing that t shirt? 😅 You are just a youtuber, not a famous celebrity 😅

Still, no one is talking about the AMD driver issues which are outdated.

great video phawx....

Hehehehe. That mouse mode is looks awesome. I carry my stuff in a bag. That mouse puck just fits in a pocket on the bag, no problem.

I'll pick it up at a discount , These window handhelds seem to have a high return rate 🤣. Parents who buy these for their kids thinking it'll operate like a console 🤷‍♂

the portrait panel is a no go from me. Shame, cuz it's a great piece of tech. Oh well.

Amazing in depth review. The best benchmarking and technical detailed review as usual. Thank you for your hard work! You, retro games corps and the Nerd nest are doing amazing work and complementing each other with many different perspectives to the handheld gaming! Keep up the great work 👏👏

Is the display the same one Lenovo use for the Legion Y700? It would explain why it's a native portrait display.

Great review as always

It would be a great video idea to do an in depth test with the legion go and G1 egpu with multiple games and list the pros and cons

Has anybody else got weird storage capacities in their countries? Here in Australia, we only have the option of a 256gb version for $1300 or the 512gb for $1500. I really wish we had a 1tb option.

ah man as an old game enjoyer this sounds like it’d be a pita

I ordered 17th, will get it 7th this month 😢

What really sold me on not liking the Go was when I loaded into Fallen Order and the playable screen was dead ass half an inch centered on the panel.

Like your treadmill idea bro

I was thinking about picking this up, but the portrait mode screen made me reconsider. Everything else is pretty cool though, I hope a lot of people buy this handheld so a 16:9 native landscape display and smaller version can exist.

It just needs some sort of a keyboard cover, then it can be a very well rounded device to carry around.