I can tell the difference between the two. But I can also tell the difference between Froot Loops and Fruit Rings cereal

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Bolth say db on the terminals

Nothing wrong with having them made by The same manufacture 90% of the speakers are from the same build house

I never realized there were haters until I went to slam. Some people just hate to see others rise. You’re a very fortunate man JP, you worked your ass off for it

once again JP you've knocked it out of the park keep doing you and continue to check those haters !

I think what people are missing is that a lot of companies use the same manufacturer. The difference is in specifications. This is no different than two people going to the same restaurant an ordering a hamburger, one burger is traditional with lettuce tomato and onion while the other burger may be flame broiled with bbq sauce, sautéed onions, and bacon. It’s the same meat just prepared different.

This is like a episode of Sesame Street! 😂😂😂

I’ve had both of them. Deaf bonces are a lot louder. But I agree that they are different.

Yep few different parts, some the same. I see how someone could think all you did was stick a sticker on a set of Arnold’s and jack it up $50 but now that we can see a side by side it’s a notable difference I myself noticed the baskets was different after looking a little closer when the first came out.

The terminal kn the d4s speaker is a deaf bonce terminal though right? Obviously? Is that why people are saying that? Because db terminals? It does look like the exact same motor with a different logo sticker as well. I'm not saying they are the same. I do see from a manufacturing perspective how it could be built with the exact same cone but different dust cap logo and surround. With a different basket and slightly different coil maybe. It's not the same but it is kinda a copy cat design is a better way to word it I'd say.

I don't think one is better than the other. I would look at the Thiele/Small parameters, and see which one is a better fit for your enclosure. These are both EXCELLENT midranges, the only difference, will be where you set your crossover points, which will likely be determined more by the tweeter and woofer, since both of these have such an extended frequency range. Either of these would work excellent in a guitar amplifier application. Bottom line: What's the difference in price?

I heard these at their shop and they are extremely loud and without a tweeter sounded great. I'm from central CA. So I bought 2 pairs for my truck. Was convinced as soon I heard them 👍

both have the db branding at the terminals

The haters have been schooled.

not the same, but looking like maybe manufactured by DB since the motor assembly is the same basic design and the push terminal DOES have the DB logo on it. so I ask, because I dont know....are they manufactured by DB?

I ordered a pair of D45-60s. Can wait to hear them! Thanks JP for putting the work into these!

Haters gonna hate. Just let it go in one ear and out of the other.

I never called anything out until now, the only thing I want to point out is the terminals both have a DB logo on them

them Haters dont know what they talkin about i personally dont know about audio but i can tell what sounds better and has good quality the haters are ragers cause they rage about every thing they see and hate but keep up the good work i love and support your videos

Why haters complain? Buy or dont buy but down4sound will continue to grow & exceed. Nothing like excellent ideas, r&d and production. Jp i may not know u personally but i hope i get a free sticker or something for this comment 😜😛

Build a damn test bench!! Talk is talk,, you have some great names, i personally have 2 sets of AD DESIGNS 2100 components on a 1500.5 nemesis

Let the haters hate, all the d4s supports love you and will always be on your side! #d4s for life!

I'm trying to put together a deaf bonce system of my own. Already have the subs, now working on getting mids and highs. Bass!!¡!!!

Its made by the same company so its gonna look just alike but its the guts that count but how many ppl have a speaker raise their hand ??? I will wait

So you took a driver that already went from 100hz to 14khz and thought, hmm, what we need for this massive mid is better high frequency range, not a lower fs and use it with a tweeter, but better highs and a much worse, narrow beaming sound. you "created" a 6 inch tweeter thats already 10dB down at 18k, genius

Terminal logo? "DB", looks to be same motor setup didnt watch whole thing, I understand entrepreneurship but there is a difference... I can go create a brand and market it build a company, but If I'm asked about any aspect down to the smallest detail, I can answer because I have ground level experience along with the bussiness mindset. I see lots of people hating cool, I will never hate on anyone who had built something from nothing. No matter if a loan from Jim bob down the road.. 2 options, 1. It sucks and goes bankrupt. 2. They succeed.. Being a business owner myself I started with absolutely zero help and I'll tell ya what, I'd gladly taken a loan to help alleviate the issues.

Let the haters hate! ...free air sound demo between old Arnold and your new brand please? About to order but not sure if i should wait for the arnold and tweeter pack to come back in stock

A Trans-Am is not a Corvette. Parts fit but two different leagues. Saying that they are the same shows lack of knowledge.. Pure ignorance.

You using Erisson to OEM?

Good afternoon…thank you kindly for sharing. Good content and vibe, and humor brought on a real level…good stuff. I can relate to “haters”. I have a cart of D4S products loaded up, just for this, the customer service vibe, support, and useful information and Sundown became my option for the sub because I couldn’t find any D4S 10” 500W subs. Going to sport it in my Mercury. My discount code keeps expiring. Stay safe, blessed, and well out there.

Even if they look slightly similar, a quick sweep with a DATS would reveal a difference in TS specs. The motors are obviously different.

Mmmmmmmmm.....shake them haters off!!!!

They are made in the same place all audio manufacturers do it choose their own baskets and other parts off a shelf

When we going to get a demo vid of the D4S speakers installed in something? Love to hear em

I would say your D4S speaker is made by DB, especially since your speaker has its logo on the terminals and back plate. It might not be an arnold but keep it 100, its made by DB. And who gives a shit anyway, Steve Meades subs are AA and no one cries about that.

Not a hater love what you do but maybe they say that because they are both made by the same company yet still 2 different speakers.

Screw them they're jealous you have earned you're on speaker. What amp do you recommend for four of them or two of them?

Hey jp can you make those on 8 inches

I ordered a pair of d4s 65 this afternoon...i thought it was the deaf bonce Arnold 65 oh lord i hope they play the same with low power or better🤦

I am a newer subscriber and really enjoy your videos. Thank you!

What is the difference between speaker surround? I purchased 3 sets of Arnold's from u & I need 1 more set. Is down4sound 6.5 the loudest & clearest?

is the big mac the same as a cheese burger?? they are both made by mcdonalds aren't they??

No need for explanation i love d4sound keep it up brother 🤘🏼

Why does the terminals say DB? Definitely bad a** speaker just curious

The one that dislikes is not a bass head fan

💯FIRE!! Let em" know Mr.JP.

So what your saying is, and correct me if I'm wrong but they are 2 totally different speakers? And people couldn't figure that out

Why does the d4s speaker have a DB terminal set 😂

JP screw the haters bro. They not buying your services anyways. So who cares what they think. You do you👍👍👍👍

That should be 18 kilohertz or 18k hertz and not 18000 kilohertz .respect.i will need to get myself some of those.mids.

Let them haters know!!!!! I was there for a demo of the work truck2. No competition!!!! The 65's BANG!!!!. FA SHO JP!!!

Same

🙌🙌🙌

is there d4s subwoofers yet?

Why do BOTH of the terminals have DB on them?? That's Deaf Bonce Logo

Can u make a review of those d4s 65 , I really wanna hear them before buying them.

Hey JP I have a Chrysler Sebring convertible what is the best set up to get good bass with my top down pleaseeee someone help need to complete my build by spring

It clearly states in the box that Both are manufactured by the same manufacturer (ningbo sound solution)

Them Haters out their been drinkin to much "HATERADE"!

Obviously similar but lots of different parts both have db on the terminals and both are manufactured by same company which is probably why they similar always quality either way

Get Em' JP! Show em what you're working with!

Also your awesome man can’t wait to run into you one of these days

Not a hater but the frequency response isnt termed 14,000 kilohertz. That doesnt exist. Kilo is 1000, so its either 14 kilohertz or 14,000 hertz. Rock on, JP.

What does the term proaudio speakers really mean especially in the 6.5 and 8 inch mids

Y does d4s have db plastic for speakers input ? Aluminum basket magnet and actual hook up to inputs ,,,, same speaker

They both say dB on the side... lol

Happy for you JP may have to get these for the next project. #DontWorryAboutTheHatersJP #LetThemHateThatsWhatTheyDo #GreatLookingSpeaker #TheLifeOfPrice #Down4Sound #SubscribeShareLike

It's the EXACT same thing with a few differences ...who are you kidding

They are different? Wait, they're round, have black cones, and have dust caps. Boom. Both are the same! Admit it already!

I love your accent, you must be from down south (Georgia?). Sound like a Southern Gent.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro I love it!!! Your haters are your best sales people!!!

More haters you have means the more successful you are in life. I was and an still not a jp fanboy but I have been a sub for years. I have bought stuff from d4s and have amazing results. Cheap and fast delivery. I had a question and jp responded personally and really fast. I say good job making a career and money from the ground up on your passion.

Do you think this will go good on a rockville db55 4000watts amp or i should get a amp of the same company????

No mater what you say, haters are going to hate. They are like my 4 year old when I want him to try new foods. If he's already made up his mind that it's nasty. He'll spit it out before he even taste or chews it. So basically your haters have the mentality of a 4 year old and unless you intend on putting them across your lap and spanking them they will never change.

Good thing you have everyone who made the subs information so you can middle man it to us.

I wanna try some of those guys

Haters we wish ya well.........

Even more reasons to buy them

You know you're doing big things when you have to do an explanation video of your products because of the haters..

Class in sessions haters! I

You could’ve started a brand new car audio company that’s never been heard of before and the haters still would’ve said You copied someone else. Haters going to hate.

Will you be making some mids in the 75-100w range?

Hi JP!.. Can we get sample test on the D4S Horn drive.? Would be Nice to see it play before decide to purchase

So which one sounds better

Both made by Ningbo Sound Solutions but different assembly and parts.

Why my d4s speaker got deaf bounce on it

Preach playa, D4S for the win!

Fuck if they don't look like a spitting image of the DS18 Deluxe3c mids I have in my doors. Other than the cone surrounds and lack of phase cone, it looks like my mids. If they sound anything like my mids, y'all in for a treat. A+

Haters are gonna talk shit but why would deaf bonce send you a seller of their speakers the same speaker under your brand to sell doest even make since if you aren't a hater cause you would quit ordering the deaf bonce speakers and push your brand if they were the same

Its more like the crescendo PWX instead of carbon fiber cone its a paper or something

Same build house tho but yours are louder probably

No difference in sound 😂 in 2024 😂 ones pretty ones a work horse!

I’m good with my focal. I went down that road before. Pro audio speakers ya they get loud but sound like shit doing it. And didn’t install them wrong had Dps and everything, just doesn’t compare to a quality component set

Which one sounds better? The down for sound looks better and it seems to have better parts as far as the motor and basket. The frequency response seems to be better as far as the numbers but will it sound better than the other speaker?

What size of sealed box is ideal for one 12 inch, 2000 watts rms sub woofer, model number DB SA302D2 ? Plz suggest

I'm not a rocket scientist but I can see a big difference before u ever said anything... People just like to hear then self's bitch about something they have no clue what there talking about ..

I've always been told The ones that think they know it all usually know nothing.sundown audio is the best

love it pretty funny

Who does that saying these 2 mids are the same which they are different ah did I miss something here :D LOL