Intel has to cover years of black magic optimizations done in amd and nv drivers for every single game. The fact that they are doing it at that speed is really impressive.

Things have improved a lot on the Linux side too. In the past couple of years, ARC on Linux has gone from "nightmare to get it working properly" to "just works right out of the box". My main (Linux) desktop currently has an ARC card in it, and I'm happy with it.

Cant wait for battlemage

Old boomer here, was a early adaptor of arc cards. living on fixed income, and needing a new computer during the pandemic, I bought a mac mini m1 due to the cheap price. I have always built my own too. Finally after prices ettled down I built a PC with Ryzen 5 3600 G, and a intel A380. I'm not a gamer, and at first left the integreated graphics on. Intel drivers were really bad as 4K HDR on youtube would just white out. Now evereything runs smooth. Driver updates are painless. Also I do some video encoding and the arc is amazing for that. I finally turned off the integrated graphics in the bios. Good job intel! I was not gonna pay the Nivida tax, with a 1650 even costing way over 200.00 a lil while back.

The A770 LE has been one of the best gifts I've ever bought for somebody. Through no doing of my own, it keeps on giving. My brother uses it in an SFF editing rig with an i7 13700 (non-K). This card was the best value dual-slot card at the time, and now it's just a great GPU in general. The goals initially were to have a solid editing rig that could play a few games here and there, and now the Xbox has lost its spot on his desk.

Love it when Wendell is hyper-active. More videos, yes!

4x of A770 could be a beast for AI. 64GB of VRAM for less than the price of a 4090. Too bad the support isn't there.

I am absolutely a fan of my A770. I'm running it with a Ryzen 5700 on Fedora 40 as of this comment and it's just wonderful. Everything supported out of the box, stable and fast! I'd dare even say an AMD CPU and an Intel GPU is a dark horse these days. No, it's not the top of the line performance monster, but bang for your buck, this just can't be beat. I could see myself getting an AMD GPU in the future if the price was right, but if I need a new card in the next year, I'll strongly be considering Battlemage. The level of support and quality Intel has given on Linux is setting the bar way high.

Id love for you to test these on linux, since im considering going intel GPU for my next build and i like to use fedora. Good video tho :3

There needs to be a shirt with "Gaming.... For science!" for these occasions!

I find it amazing how well these things compete with their contemporaries, being a completely novel lines of gpus.

Hardware can be amazing but it won't matter if the software isn't efficient... super cool to see how many gains they've made over the 2 years.

Can you make customer GPUs / builds comparison for LLM applications?

I have the A380 as my host gpu for dual 1440p monitors and it's working with no issues.

Thanks Wendell! - Love the reviews as always

I would buy an ARC GPU immediately if they get proper SR-IOV support.

It's been a wild ride, from figuring out firmware updating to moving away from D3Don12. The SR-IOV stuff has always been in the driver, I'm curious what more recent stuff you've seen that makes you think it might go public. I'll stay tuned. For my part, I've been in it since Odyssey in SF. I was there when it launched, right behind Raja. And I'm still on their Beta program with an A770 as my daily. I can give nothing but the greatest praise to the Intel folks for responding to issues and working them out since launch, it really gives you an appreciation for all the reproduction they have to try and do.

This is a pretty impressive uplift from drivers alone

Very good vid, thanks.

I’m no gamer and love my ARC 770 LE. I even have an ARC 750 LE still sealed in a box as a spare card. The Intel design of the LE cards looks great (to me).

aside from gaming the media engine included in the arc cards is very nice. i replaced my quadro p400 with an sparkle A310 single slot card in my jellyfin/plex server and i'm very satisfied. even the pcie-passthrough an the driver installation worked like a charm

I actually gave up on the Challenger A580 about a month ago, pulled it and sold it. The machine it was in is used for watching video streams, discord and occasional light 1080 gaming. I added the A580 primarily for Quick Sync (so I could offload some encoding jobs from my power hog gaming machine) and maybe turn up some detail when gaming. It never got along well with Windows update in my machine, but two or three months in I was getting daily driver update failures from the Intel updater, and when I finally did more than just dismiss the notifications I found two instances of the updater, along with a non-existent Intel Bluetooth adapter in device manager (?). I removed the card, DDU'd the drivers, cleaned up device manager and reinstalled. It took less than a week to start giving me the update failures. The updater had again installed itself twice, and device manager was again showing the phantom Intel BT adapter. Personally I could live with minor bugs in some games, but the Arc Control update software in my experience was crap.

Love my A770 but idle power consumption still sucks despite so many driver upgrades

I am running an A770 with an I7-11700F and so far, it's performed pretty well. I do run games in 1440, using an MSI 120 hz 1440p monitor. My biggest issue is no sound over DisplayPort when viewing KZfaq. So, I plugged my speakers back into the motherboard audio. Fixed.

ngl i want an intel card, i could gun it for an A750 but i want to see what battlemage brings to the table, i hope the hardware side has moved as much as the software side and i hope it also doesnt cost an arm and a leg either, im happy if we can get decent 200 usd cards again that are not 3 generations old

How are these doing on Linux now? Wayland support? Game performance? AV1 encoding?

I've been running the A770 for over a year now and I love this card.

Excited for what is in store for these cards even last Celestial which might be when I might upgrade. I’m perfectly fine with my A750. More so thanks to these driver updates the past handful of months. In a sea and lake of green and blue I love my little pond of blue.

The 0.1% low changes are insane. Incredible work!

i have an arc a750 and i bought it as a "temporary" gpu (upgrade for my finally long in the tooth Titan Xp/building a new pc and keeping the old one together) waiting for the 50 series to buy one of those or a 4090 depending on pricing. im very impressed with the a750 for the price. i do still get occasional consistent stutters in some games.

So with intel making enterprise VDI solutions... will we see any of that support trickle down to the desktop cards?

In the graph at around 9:30, I believe you used outdated results for ARC 770 (from Feb 2023), which could explain why there is so small a difference between that card and A580.

Intel needs to take advantage of the market that AMD and Nvidia do not want to cover, The Midrange and Low End. If Intel can come out with a $400 GPU with 16GB of VRAM that is as strong as a 3090, $300 12GB Vram card as strong as a 3080, sub $200 8GB card as strong as a 3070. They will sell like hot cakes

Wendell, How is the A770 doing with Topaz Video AI 5? I know that Arc GPU's were unusable with Video AI about a year ago. Has this been fixed? Thanks!

Good to have good news.

im glad there is a 3rd option out there now. i have 4 of the 8 a770 16gb cards that there are and they all vary on their max power setting. so far the sparkle a770 titan oc is the highest one i have at 276w. for me they are a great bang for the buck on my systems due to not needing to much a lot of the time but when i need the extra power they work great for me. the drivers also impress the heck out of me how intel is backing their project massively and i don't mind supporting something so neat fully. i have high hopes for these cards and cant wait to see them become more then a "hobbyist" card.

Honestly, I had an Arc A750 for about six months, and aside from a weird monitor incapability (that was the fault of the monitor's firmware), I haven't really had any major issues--or, that is to say, any major issues I couldn't find a workaround for. Once the workarounds were applied, I had damn solid performance for a very reasonable price. And the LE version of the card might be the most beautiful GPU I've ever seen--you'd have to actively try to make it look bad in a build. I did end up getting rid of it, because I found an amazing deal for an RX 7800 XT, but I'd say my run with the arc cards was very positive. I'm very much looking forward to Battlemage.

Im not a technical person i di unferstand 0.1% lows etc but running a 5800x3d on an a770 playing modern warfare 2 feels smooth as butter. Its not super high frame rate but it just feels incredibly smooth.

"It's not what you think" said the man without knowing that I am not thinking, ever.

Was on the fence before but I'm seriously looking forward to Battlemage.

Software quality should be just as important as performance when choosing a GPU.

This video drops just as i got the driver update.😁

I bought a A770 LE last year and it is mindbogglingly good for a first gen product. Drivers updates are regular and keep getting better. If you mainly want a productivity GPU that is also becoming a pretty good at gaming and you don't feel like remortgaging your house, Intel has you covered.

i had my complaints in the beginning but they have smoothed out the experience quite well. oh btw hot pot taipei, computex time? i know a super great place.

I bought an Arc A380 for $120 a month ago and while the Windows experience is okay, because of the lack of any GPU selection like Nvidia Optimus for Laptops or AMD’s PowerXpress, you're stuck with Windows' High Performance/Power Saving GPU selector which is for DirectX, Vulkan games have their own GPU selector, and OpenGL games always use the GPU of the primary monitor, unless your primary monitor is a duplicate between two monitors, then Windows will use the DirectX setting to select priority. I use my Arc as the output device for all my monitors (DP) and I have the HDMI input on my primary monitor plugged into my Nvidia GPU, performance is lacking on Windows, but on Linux with Prime Offloading performance is amazing, Wayland works flawlessly, and everything is offloaded onto the Arc except the game I want to play, and I have AV1 encoding.

Intel GPU industry wise are doing exciting work. Assuming they hang tough, and keep up the improvement, they are going to issue Battle mage with a rep that while the drivers may not be A1, their effort to get to A1 is - A1. I was in a mental view of not buying Intel discrete GPUs - due to bad drivers. I think that's largely done now, so I'd probably be fine picking them up now. Its not quite right to say Intel came from no where. In truth their GPU and IGP hardware and software has been around a long time. But to level up against the high end players in the market, to this degree - in this kind of time frame is highly impressive. And I am thankful for it - because the market where midrange cards exceed $500/£500 instead of the older $200/£150 arena is batshit and something needed to come break that impasse.

A770 has been mostly great, but I'm starting to need more juice to run games on the resolution (3440x1440p) I'm using. BG3 is fine on 60fps, but games like Hunt Showdown and Helldivers 2 need more than that. Let's hope that they drop Battlemage soon, because I don't want to go back to Nvidia.

If you ramp up the fans, you can get the card temperature down real low. Its always running at max power, so it wont matter. 😊

9:30 - Having spent hundreds of hours in the AC-games (also due to a lot of testing), I can tell you that it's probably better to just turn most things to "high", some even "medium", to optimize performance as much as possible, as those settings don't make a big enough visual difference to be bothersome. Also lower the resolution as LITTLE as you can (if at all). Resolution helps a lot in terms of clarity, in most games anyway, but particularly in the Anvil Engine. You can still use scaling by like 10-20% or something, to improve performance, at the cost of a little clarity (though, you could compensate with some light(!) sharpening if your drivers have the option), but I'd opt to just nudge down stuff like shadows and other lighting stuff, as well as foliage-density which is still plenty at high. - Just don't bother with Ultra for most things. - And the Adaptive AA setting (or whatever it's called again, it has been a while) does wonders for consistency. I believe that also varies the resolution, but you won't notice it much, while it helps prevent severe framerate-drops. - Of course now there are also the upscaling-options, so you can use a fixed resolution that already works well and then use an upscaling-solution on top of it.

Fingers crossed that the battle mage isn't to much expensive then this gen and a lot more performance! I was waiting till see the 2nd Gen of Intel gpu's before jumping on board buy its very exciting to see the strides Intel is making on their gpu's though! More competition the better for everyone and hopefully knock the green giant of their high horse!

I love my ARC a770 LE. Amazing on linux and looks fantastic. Intel did a great job on it. Cant wait to see battlemage and see intel excel in the GPU space.

I have had virtualization issues for dual monitors on my 11thgen i7, at first I had to pull a hdmi cable out to get past the POST screen, but it seems a microcode update in Ubuntu fixed the issue randomly one day. Note I tried allowing visualisation on the board and I also was running bare metal

Nice test video...

See these improvements over time is great, but what would really help to drive a decision to invest in an ARC gpu would be a comparison with contemporary competing solutions at similar price range.

Very much looking forward to seeing what Battlemage is capable of! Hopefully they can improve on efficiency. The main thing I'm curious about with Intel ARC is creative, productivity, and LLM tasks.

What I can actually say: using an arc380 in my proxmox server for a windows vm is crazy good. Low power, great encoding.

I have an Intel A750 for my Jellyfin server, it shattered my previous 3050ti, in terms of transcoding speed and of course AVI encoding and transcoding . Bought it for 200$ including shipping, and I have loved it ever since, it was quite a pain to make the pass through in Proxmox and it sadly only has support on Ubuntu and Windows VMs but for what I paid and what it delivers , it truly is a marvel. If Intel responds with Battlemage being at least in an AMD level of performance and driver support and development , I might switch from NVIDIA to Intel

Hey Wendelm, awesome video, love it! One thing though: Intel and good structured software development? Well sorry to burst your bubble, them seem to do some good, but also please lookup the topic "Meshcentral" and what happend with the devs.

I love my a770, super impressed with it's price/performance and it just keeps getting better

Wooooo intel GPUs! SR-IOV baby!!!!!!

11:43 - I use the 6950XT, which is roughly twice as powerful as the A770 as far as I could find, and 'Starfield' is quite doable at 1600p 21:9 and Medium-High settings, even though it's very inconsistent (and that was with the launch-version and maybe a few small updates on top of that). - This is not to "brag" or something, but what I want to say is that... while it did manage that, it really COOKED the crap out of the GPU. I was getting nervous seeing the temperatures and hearing the fans going nuts, and that was with intake-fans aimed right at it, exhaust-fans in the top, with 3 sides of the case being completely mesh, as well as other openings. - That thing is already squeezed for all it's got, and then 'Starfield' again squeezes it as hard as it can, and my card must've reached some record highs. I think it peaked beyond safe points. And though it never shut down or anything, I did get some weird (temporary) visual anomalies that I never got in other games. I just don't know if the game would do that regardless or if it's the engine or whatever, but I was fearing for that card's life, and I only got it recently at that point, having just had thrown about 650 Euros at it. I was playing that game like the Matthew McConaughey smoking meme. - I seriously thought there was a risk of sparks and flames shooting out at some point, as even the case itself was hot to the touch and the hot air coming from it was unbearable, and I was also regularly trying to smell if something was burning and checked if anything melted. - Nothing destructive ultimately happened, which is quite impressive considering the heat, but while I like 'Starfield', also F that game on a technical level. - Good stress-test, though... For both videocards and their owners.

10:50 was it with INTEL XeSS XMX or XeSS DP4A? Two different programs. XeSS XMX is for INTEL specific. The difference is huge.

I love to see what they're doing but I feel like linux is so neglected on Arc, we don't even have a GUI yet.

Wish Rebar didn't need to be a thing because I would slam a A380 LP in a old Dell right now.

I have just hated how the general community reacted to - mostly driven by KZfaqrs (MLID etc) - and continues to react to Intels efforts in the consumer GPU market. The initial drivers weren’t great but what did we expect. This is a brand new market segment for Intel and they have put in the hours and done the dirty work of optimizing per game! With all this learned knowledge I am certain they will continue to get better.

When they actually put sometime into fixing multi monitor setups then it will be a product worth considering.

I knew drivers make a difference, but this is pretty amazing.

Windows auto updating has been such a pain. My solution is just download the driver manual do a clean install, it's been relatively good since.

For Linux they have plug and play. No driver issues. nothing. I love it. I don't care that the drivers may be worse than on windows.

This is very exciting news, trying to not get my hopes up for battlemage

Sir... Does ARC A770 support video Ai FPS enhancement software? (Like : Flowframes / FrameGUI)

They released new hardware? Please do a segment on the importance of drivers versus hardware

Has the elevated idle power draw on intel Arc cards been fixed?

I rock a A730M 12 gb vram laptop gpu and it owned !

hello i have the AsRock ARC A770 16gb and its always at 90c gaming how is yours running so cold even when i set the fans to 100% im still getting mid to high 80s

Does arc work in Plex for encoding?

What’s this about SR-IOV on the regular A770?

Hope with Battlemage Intel can put enough pressure on Amd and nvidia with their mid and low end cards to have reasonable vram and prices, would be awesome for the gamer market...nvidia is supposedly alone in the ultra high end coming fall/winter but ey, 3 players is better than 2

I had the same thing with asus amd 6600xt. Windows 10 no issues. Windows 11 would put in a generic driver. I spent months trying to fix it.

I been running a test pig on AMD / AM4 / B550 with the Ryzen 7 5700x and Sparkle A 770 Titan video card, some of us are doing AMD platforms and the user experience could be different. Wendell, please test using B450/x470 in PCIe 3 with Rebar on for Intel Arc A580 /A770, it should work being AMD can do what Intel cannot on PCIe 3, AMD can do Rebar for Nvidia or Intel on x470 chipset, I tested the RTX 3070 on x470 with Rebar and it works.

Not really in the game atm but I really want to see intel to become a stable 3rd player.

100% hope Intel continues with their GPUs and Drivers. I am never an early adopter of PC technology because of the cost of parts, but if a competitive hardware or software options proves itself, I am happy to whole-heartedly embrace it.

I lament to inform you that I was unable to read the white letters on the light blue background of the bar graphs, at the out and about viewing distance I had with this on my phone. Black outline could help. Also the far left text was beyond too small for me see even when I gave special efforts to look closely. As a listener viewer, I wasn’t able to discern what the 9 bars were each associated with. I assumed the top 3 were all the new driver results, but upon zooming in, I could discern different dates among those 3. Maybe a little bit of description of the graphs, or fewer at once would be favorable. Maybe… But don’t sweat it, you do you. I would though promote enlarging the text and giving a black outline for the white on light-blue. Thanks for the follow up on Arc, I also lament I still have not produced my “Intel ARC the Anime” series. But with Ai I hope to some day achieve such heights of art.

Bought an ASROCK A380 strictly for doing AV1 encoding and its been working like a champ except I just noticed...its locked at PCIe v1.0 x1 speeds no matter what motherboard I plug it into. Was a rather shocking discovery given it requires a full x16 slot, tho its only spec'd to use x8. The ASROCK also requires external PCI-E power tho its not actually needed. Kind of a bummer. Confirmed with a collogue with the same card and different hardware - same thing. Guess I should have figured ASROCK would scrape the bottom of the barrel for 'supports but doesn't utilize' specifications. Oh well, none of the A-series cards support SR-IOV and I'd really like that feature so *crosses fingers* here's to hoping the next-gen Intel supports this.

I just got that A580 for a dedicated pinball computer to help my dad out with, but trying to run Linux on it turned out to be a nightmare to get everything to work, including GPUs (including an AMD-one, but I think the Vega ones just don't play nice), even though my personal computer has next to no issues with the vast majority of hardware and games (I mean, I just install stuff and it generally works). - In any case, or this case in particular rather, I followed Intel's instructions for installing the drivers, but it just won't take, with both Zorin and Mint complaining that "the package system is broken", for which in turn there are numerous cases and various solutions about on the web. - Supposedly Arc-drivers work out-of-the-box from Ubuntu 23 onward, but those distros I mentioned aren't on that yet. - I'm not a fan of straight Ubuntu, but I suppose I could ignore that for a system that needs to do almost one thing. This is nothing against Intel's efforts with the Arc-GPUs, I wholly support it, but those instructions for manual installation are... quite confusing, first of all, and while I'm "savvy", I'm not someone who sits at a computer typing commands all day and goes on auto-pilot, I have stuff to do with a computer, but when they then also don't work... They specifically state that Linux is supported, but evidently not seamlessly. - Again, there's those native drivers, supposedly. hhhuhhhh... I just gotta... install another OS again then...

Intel Arc FTW

Frame generation is nice, but the image quality of XeSS is so much better and I'm not even using the XMX version. If anything, I feel like FSR is the technology that's lagging behind and desperately needs to improve.

Mesa maintainers should allow Intel developers to replace old LLVM compiler with in house IGC compiler.

does it whine at full load running at 100%?

Competition Woot!

Can you please make a video reporting on pre-dx9 games? That's an area I believe Intel needs to work on.

Intel making great GPU's is the BEST POSSIBLE outcome for the GPU industry right now! Here's to Intel Arc Battlemage with an Intel Arc A10000 24GB VRAM variant priced competitively! Come on Intel, AMD isn't stepping up to NVIDIA, despite AMD being more than capable of doing so, if they assign their CPU division to their IMO defunct Radeon division. Intel, now is your chance!

I want Battlemage

*Question...* Any thoughts on MACHINE LEARNING being involved to fix drivers for various games? I'm very interested in the idea of ML being involved. Maybe initially some non-ML version that's simply automated to try all sorts of combinations of game settings while monitoring FRAME TIMES? Step through every game in the Steam catalogue? Then ML having access to specific driver code locations so it can try to rewrite them? (feedback loop for crashes/worse performance/better performance...) Maybe move on to rewriting game code to be more efficient? Basically there are TONNES of older games. How much can we fix them with what might be eventually LOW HANGING FRUIT in terms of cost as ML gets better?

Great video! It seems for now at least, intel is doing what every new actor on a new market should do. Reach out to users for feedback and have enough people working on solutions and optimizations. My question is, once they get a solid step on the discrete GPU market, will they continue to be this "nice". I hope they learn a lesson, with decent prices, good product overall and good and respectfull communications you can get a lot, really a lot. As long as you don't get greedy of course.

Wow, lately you've been really spot on with your timing. Just sat down and I am getting served with GPU news ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

I happy with my current GPU Sapphire GPRO X080 mining version of RX 6700 was extremely cheap and is ok with my 1440P 75HZ Viewsonic ;)

At 9:35 , that lackluster CP2077 performance on the A770 is using the older Feb 2023 driver's performance numbers. He had so much better results with the April 2024 drivers just a few minutes back at 5:58

one of the biggest problem that the arc gpus still have are the idle consumptions all of them consume around 40w by just doing nothing on the pc

Proud owner of arc770 LE... 250€ from an impatient early buyer... now is may daily GPU for PUBG and CS2. 7950x and arc770 LoL Like DrFrankestein would said " Its Alive!"