The drive experience of the M5 cracked me up 😂😂

I would go the n/a Lexus. I like my cars to work.

M5 is quite nice, but I would honestly have the Lexus as well. Good vid mate, you were braver than I would be giving that M5 a bit of curry, imagine how scary it would be on a wet cold Wellington day!

M5 might be nice and all but i don't want to have my wallet thrown into a never ending lava pit. Still would pick ISF for that piece of mind and N/A intake noises :)

Great video! That BMW is just insane.

you gotta do the headlight and tailight mods for the ISF, takes it to the next level

Crazy comparison. I have both cars! 2011 ISF, 2013 f10 M5. Love them both

Awesome video, the outakes and bloopers really add great, Human feel to the video

Huge congrats to Jack, such an awesome car! I reckon your opinion is completely valid though, well articulated.

Perfect video for me, because I can’t decide between the two! Both of them are just amazing!

One of my favourite car reviewers atm! Great job 👍

Useable power…I was trying to explain to a 14yo WHY useable power is much more fun than extreme horsepower. It was a bit lost in them really. I gotta say I agree with you that 300kw/400ish hp is the upper limit on power as long as the car is built around that. A 400hp Corolla would be far scarier than the M5. It’s just too much on the road. Loved the vid, love the IS F.

Great video as always, if you could somehow source a mid 90s mr2 one day to review that would be incredible, really want to hear your thoughts on it.

always gonna be more fun to drive a slower (although isf's aren't slow) car fast than a fast car slow.. nz roads are currently barely fit for a horse, let alone 500+ of them in a euro rocket

You loosing traction in that M5 had me laughing. Great film.

great vid brother m5 really looks like it's enough of a hassle for it to takeaway from driving experience i would also go ISF

As good as always mate! Just noticed on your close up shots you have a slight wobble. Not sure if you’re using a gimble + iPhone, but could just be the image stabi kicking in not giving you a stable recording. Keep it up and good to see some sideways…;)

Speed and powers cool but speed and controllability is even better

Would definitely be worth recording with a decent mic after you've shot your footage; location sound is a good draft but the lapel your using sounds low quality and the wind sounds are crazy. Good video though!

lol @ 1:04 -really felt the burn on that one mate. should do more of those ha

Great video!! Love the noise of the N/A V8😍 What is the MPG on your Lexus?? I am looking for a GSF with the same N/A V8

I had a W204 C63 for 4 years and did 145km in it, now with an F13 M6 I've done 115km in it over 4.5 years (lockdown, different job has meant less kms) I've been running 305/30r20 PS4S tyres on mine from about 20km so for most of its like and on the original 295/30r20 PZeros it drive like in your video. The PS4S make a huge difference and it actually gets grip in 2nd in a straight line now! The F13 M6 is basically the same car but with a 120mm shorter wheelbase, carbon roof and of course is a bit lighter. My specific one is a Competition Package which that F10 M5 doesn't have which gives sharper steering and beefier antiroll bars and springs. Overall it does drive similar to an F10 but a bit more aggressive while looking even better in my mind! Taihape to Napier or Gisborne to Opotiki are utterly brilliant in it :)

Great T shirt! Yuki Tsunoda fan?

Does the ISF lift on start-up? Or is it lowered? Seems to be really dropped at the rear..

As a owner of a F10 M5 6-speed (only offered in the US) the car does try to kill you quite often but only if you turn off all the driver aids. Leave MDM on with traction control off and it's a very well balanced and pretty predictable car.

Good point about usable power and quite frankly, the ISF has enough power.

That second slide couldn't have been timed better in the M5, I could tell that unsettled you a bit, quick reactions mate!!

I've been in similar cars to the m5 such as e63 amg but not the m5 how ever I have been in a m6 of the same generation. The roads were wet so you imagine what it was like to drive

E46 M3, in particular the M3 CSL was the pinnacle of BMW M imo. Try to get your hands on one of those or the e39 M5.

When u have such a heavy car with so much power it gets really punishing to use the accelerator pedal, as u said, quarter throttle and back end spins around while doing a light turn.

I've heard horror stories littered throughout the forums and YT comments about all manner of costly wallet draining Euro problems. BMW seems to feature heavily for some reason. I wouldn't even want one under a full factory warranty. I'd sell it and buy a 2nd hand Japanese car.

A 535i would be a better match in terms of driving experience to the ISF(and also price lol) . But also, if you don't want to go that fast, just don't put your foot down lol

Interesting comparison, I'm myself a ISF owner. I think the M5 is one class higher (5-series, GS, A6, E-Class). A comparison between ISF and M3 would be great.

I'm one of the few Irish ISF owners so we get wet shitty conditions all the time. I was out last week for a drive with an F82 M4 mapped to 520hp, an E60 M5 and a Caterham R500. My car was easily able to keep up with the BMW's both of whom agreed my car was faster in the conditions. The M4 driver almost crashed in a tunnel on the way down. The power delivery is so horrible and spiky. Meanwhile I had stability control off completely...the ISF is such a great car. The Caterham was just wild. 😂

Wot the use of power wen the speed limit is 100km nice car but feel proud of wot you own comfort smoothness is a car to journey in and a dam good stereo system

the M5 F10 is pretty good. but Lexus NA V8 for me takes the cake

How can you compare the 2?? These cars are in 2 differ lclasses. Isf is older and the m5 is newer. The isf was made to compete with the e92 m3 and the c63 amg.

I always choose the cars that has Made in Japan engraved on the chassis or VIN plate.

it’s fascinating to see the Lexus IS F. something that Acura and Honda never tried to match 🥲

The car you choose to purchase is always going to be depending on the kind of driving you like to do and if you don’t know enough about cars and if you are not a confident driver or enthusiast, then you should go with the slower car with the lower amount of horsepower. Any car putting down over 450 hp Should have rubber tires that will grab the road better for the least amount of slippage. It’s very one-sided to down a car for its performance and horsepower if you’re not experienced enough to drive it. the reliability of that particular car granted isn’t great and the newer models are improved and a lot more reliable for sure, but there are definitely Bmw enthusiast that know how to work on their own vehicles and don’t have a problem doing their own maintenance and engine repairs. If you are financially stable, were they comfortable income and love luxury and horsepower BMW is the way to go. If you don’t care about horsepower and you just want something reliable and nice with luxury, then get Toyota or Lexus. And if you like BMW and Lexus/which is made by Toyota. then get the new Toyota supra that is very fast very reliable and very tunable that has the BMW B 58 engine because Toyota partnered with BMW to use their engines and transmissions and supporting components to build their new supra. The video was OK, but to down a car that is built for luxury and high performance as the M model being the premium model of that car shows lack of knowledge and experience. You shouldn’t be behind the wheel of a car that you do not have the experience to drive and if you don’t want the car to spin all over the road make sure that it has the proper tires on it and make sure you get the one you can afford to keep, just know that car wasn’t meant for you 👌🏼

Got a stage 2 m5 with 750bhp and 850nm fancy a go in that lol. Need to have more throttle control instead of putting foot all the way down on it.

I feel like this video is a good reply to my comment about the ISF not being as complete as most other "super-saloons". For me personally i love a car that wants to kill you for the road and that most often means it needs a turbo. However forced induction also most often mean reliability issues and high maintenance costs. If reliability wasn't a factor i'd get an AMG or M-car any day, the Lexus just feels asleep in comparison.

Maybe a stickier wider tyre would improve it a lot, shouldn't be sliding around that much.

Since you got a Euro R, will you do side by side comparison with all the other Type R?

Did that m5 have decent tyres 😳 looked insane

If you could sum up this entire review in one line: “Oh My Giddy Aunt!” - KiwiCarLife

Lol the M5 isn't unusable at all. You're just having too much fun with the juice pedal! My 550i LCI with Downpipes and tune still isn't enough, and it's just shy of 600hp lol

more roll races

I wouldn't trust myself with a m5 without xdrive

Idk if your info is right. I’ve been told by multiple engineers and mechanics that the s63 engine is basically a bulletproof engine with tons of tuning potential.

I'd say an e90 M3 is a bit more comparable to the isf but even then the Lexus imo is a better car especially for people who don't want a car trying to kill them

Omw that M5 🤪

It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than drive a fast car slow or fast They’re good to show off and talk about statistics and all but irl they’re useless

"large amount of currency"? They're older cars and only sit about $35,000-$45,000, not much more than your average new sedan plus they'll last you a lot longer

3:25 watch the rear view mirror 😂

Think about the further maintenance I am gonna choose Lexus IS-F.😢

I'd go ISF because my wallet says so. But if money wasn't so tight, I'd buy 2 ISF's (leave 1 stock and supercharge the other one) and I'd also buy an F90 M5 comp and go stage 2. Also, I knew the ISF would lose in a roll. Stock they run 60-130 in about 12 seconds whereas the F10 M5 does it somewhere in the 9 second range. But I'm curious to know how a fbo isf would do against a stock f10.

The facelift ISF MY09/10 with the blue mark on the steering wheel have a real mechanical LSD - the one you had should have an electromechanical LSD / ie use the brakes to force power to the wheel - The BMW is just not reliable, Like most of them, the Lexus far more usable as a daily.

Lexus ISF front bumper a reminiscent of new BMW M2.

Kiwi

I wouldn’t want to own an M5 with that much power and not in AWD.

*wow, just looking at the M5’s original price tag when new,😳,$230K* .. *Redbook value now, with low K’s is maybe $50K* 😏

Personally I think the ISF looks better

I love how you avoided to say unreliable and complicated when comparing the engines choice.

NA is best

I couldn't buy the bmw, anything could go wrong and I could go broke. I mean the name is long BMW M5 F10 4.4L S63B44T1.

Hehe you wouldn't like my 135i

Toyota all they way.

In no real world driving is that BMW faster than the ISF. The Lexus needs 13.7s for a quarter mile. The M5 at least two garage stops and 5000$ repairs costs.

IS-F better ofc

The M5 is a disaster of a car! The engine was so bad a class action lawsuit happened over it. It would consume 14x More oil than what was acceptable, had bad valve seals, all the rubber would turn to hard plastic after 50,000km. Do I need to go on?

Bro cant handel the tourqe . Haha

good day ! good day ! ISF is better it will make you happy without raping your wallet

were is the ACCORD?? lol i came for HONDA!!!!!!!!!! i cant relate to an M5!!!

BMW over Toyota all day

you're a 400hp boy

1st

That m5 is absolutely awful

I'd be happy with a 535i lol

Bmw looks good but quality wise lexus is better