I do wonder which ones makes the more cash tho. The episode, or his job as an actual doctor. Implying it's not a non-profit hospital and all the patient paid the bills

@@cypherusuh this is... fiction.. idk if u get that

@@cypherusuh he made 480,000 per episode. A radiology doctor makes that in a year. great thought experiment btw.

@@AlexWilson-mn1ud and..?

If they had just made an episode a day, he could have saved so many more lives. Greedy studio.

Why are there no replies?😂

Idon't get it

@@myheartwillstopinjoy8142 it's a double joke. On one hand the situation she's in is depressing, hence "blue", on the other,her heart doesn't pump too well so poor oxygenation gives skin a bluish tint, hence blue.

House lying while telling the truth.......kinda. 😂😂😂

@@bflkurby1 lmaoo. Sounds like something he would do

Medical ethics, not civil ethics.

@@masters.1000 Both should be intertwined don't you think

Some of those homes provided clues that helped save their lives, otherwise they would have died.

@@Spikastru I agree, still doesn't make the act civil

The only Ethic that house abides by is doing what's best for the patient. Breaking into their home, lying to them etc are all step to figuring out what is wrong with them and saving their lives. That is always his end game. But now the hospital is going against that buy using them to further research when that option isnt what is best to them. That is why he has an issue.

I always laugh at this scene because of that setup, was she just waiting for someone to come in front of her to start screaming her head off??

@@austinsmith5782 honestly though, just waiting for someone to ask if she's ok to go batshit

She was literally curling lmao. Real pain makes you speechless or gasping for air trying to hold it in.

@@fatty1040 I guess it stopped being real pain after Foreman finished talking.

@@Scarecrow545 Dumb asf 🤣

Every donation has some condition in which ways it could be used.

@@Zantonny This dude legit asked to be the hospital director

@@Zantonny well it is a teaching hospital so maybe that has something to do with the ammount being good

Nothing in this world comes for free.

Yes just give her a random heart Hell if someone needs marrow give them it from the security you met walking in the hospital

This girl gets it

Yeah you are totally correct

well sometimes he’s the best in the clinic with the coat😂

Otherwise, House will just be Office 🤷🏾‍♂️

Korrect

Dude okay this may be somewhat accurate but this is so not how this particular episode goes

you didnt make a lupus joke

0. House argues with one of his team members about how this episode's case is boring and not worth it untilthey mention one particular symptom which catches house off-guard and gets him interested.

One-Minute Metal I don’t understand lupus jokes, I’ve watched the entire thing twice now and he only mentions lupus like once a season. He mentions cancer way more often than that.

@@andreayg0 neither do i, but its a running meme for this channel that house makes alot of lupus jokes.i seen him say it so many times

Thats a good argument. But does the show give us any clues his discoveries are used elsewhere?

@@chrisjackson1889 that's just generally how medicine works. Probably not through House personally, cause he's too cool to care about that, but the rest of his gang would 100% routinely write into medical journals about their crazy cases.

@@chrisjackson1889There was a whole multi episode conflict between Cameron and Foreman about how foreman published an article about how they saved a little girl with a seemingly crazy idea when she had told him that she was gonna write about that one. It was somewhat implied that she “called” that one as in others had been written about.

@@chrisjackson1889 every medical procedure done on zebra cases are always documented and published. It would be stupid not to

Spot on Cameron...Spot on.

I actually also really liked the last few seasons as well. It was interesting to see what made house tick. I also loved the ending because we don’t know if House faked his death to spend time with Wilson before he died or if House was just a figment of Wilson’s imagination.

@@agentmichaelscarn7460 unless they said that Wilson was having hallucinations, i think that is a disingenuous statement.

Agent Michael Scarn nothing ever suggested the latter wtf

@@oliviergrenier3574 AMS is very mightily confused. The OP said clearly they preferred the earlier season and AMS thought completely opposite.

It's a numbers game. House, according to the show, saves 52 people a year. That is a very low amount of people for a 3 million dollar department. Clinical trials can save many lives in the future at the cost of trial and error and side effects.

Don’t blame the whole industry for the actions of a fictional character you’re meant to hate

@@jimmy2k4o You’re meant to hate him because he represents predatory industries

@@hedgehogcuber6848 Sure but those rare diseases need diagnosing, treating, and solved too. Heart attacks used to be “rare” and now…

Yeah, that’s the thing about this guy… its not just about the business, it’s about control.

You miss a lot doing it this way

Lol.. never seen a complete episode

Same . I saved the last 5 episodes for a special day

No you haven't. It is just well edited to make you feel that way.

@EestiRöst you haven't seen the finale yet?? It is certainly one of the best endings of any long running show and puts the endings to shows like Seinfeld, Mash, Game of Thrones, to shame.

erectile dysfunction?

@@itsmealaska9089 *eating disorder

@@itsmealaska9089 I was about to ask her that 😂😂😂 “How does a female get erectile dysfunction?”

Did House get caught and did he wear the coat? Can you please tell me how this episode ended?

​@@irmaadams7780 They found out about her real problem, but House pretended to have not realized that before the transplant (nobody was convinced). Don't remember about the coat thing I think he eventually did for a little bit, not sure if it was in that episode though since the plot with the billionaire spanned several episodes

It's like Immanuel Kant's philosophy about how human beings must be treated only as an end and never as a means

Its a pretty grey area. Afterall, if we cannot test new medications for its possible benefits/side effects, then our range of medical treatment stagnates. No new treatments can be supplied. I've taken a few courses on the ethics surrounding medical research, and all medications (in theory) go through rigorous lab testing prior to human trials. And in human trials, they have to prove not only is the drug effective in humans, but that it is not worse than what is currently available. There is even a clause where if the drug is found to be so much better than the current treatment, the control group is switched to the new drug. Of course, the inverse is also true. If the new drug is too toxic in humans, the test group should be switched back Now obviously, there is a flaw with the system, that being humans. They'll try to push the medicine to be used, treating every patient as a nail for their hammer, when some patients would require a screwdriver. Some may believe that the risk is worth it when reality it is not. Its the unfortunate aspect of it all, if we want to continue advancing treatment options and abilities, gambles must be made. Now, some drugs are made for specific illnesses, so they'd only look for patients with said illnesses. And from there sprouts treatments for the really rare stuff, stuff that would be hard to make a return on the investment. I believe they are called orphan drugs. In those, the government actually tries to help by giving some special clauses and financial support behind them. Again, the lines between right and wrong get murky there. However, there is proof behind the concept. There is a book, "The Philadelphia Chromosome: A Mutant Gene and the Quest to Cure Cancer at the Genetic Level" by Jessica Wapner. It describes the history behind the decades of research the culminated into a treatment that I'd honestly describe as an almost Miricale cure. The plot synopsis is that in 1959, a discovery was made about a very aggressive and deadly form of leukemia, a telltale chromosomal error. It goes on to cover the years of unconnected research in history that eventually culminated in the tyrosine-inhibitor drug, Imatinib. Its been a while, but if I recall the lab testing for that drug was so-so, but the human trials went off swimmingly. It worked so well, that it changed the entire prognosis of Ph-positive CML from near incurable and a death sentence in 5 years' time, to something that can most often be easily managed and in some cases cured. People went form living debilitating lives where they would prefer to be dead, to near fit as a fiddle. Of course, there are still some side-effects, but compared to what CML felt like for these people.... it was an easy choice. Hell, the book mentions a few testimonials from the early clinical trial patients, where one couple took their jewelry out of the safe to put the medication in there, as they valued it so highly.... oh yeah, the drug was also easily made into pill form so you can just do treatment at home. The sad fact of reality is, human trials must occur, otherwise we cannot advance in medicine and give people new and better life saving treatment. If Imatinib hadn't gone through clinical trials, like it almost had been as there was worries about the profits and actual efficacy of the medication, then Ph-positive CML would still be a death sentence. Now, obviously I pulled one of the best examples to show the value of clinical trials. There will be many cases where the drug doesn't pass, and many more where people try to shot gun blast the drug over a hospital to see what happens. Hopefully in the future we develop methods that allows us to test the drug perfectly, without having to subject humans to it first. But for now, the grey area that is human clinical trials is a necessity to our understanding and advancement of medicine.

Crescent Hammer: Sure, it’s a wrench. But any tool is a hammer if you need it to be.

​@@darkraiking680 incredibly well put. Thank you. I'm a pharmacist myself and totally agree with you

I felt like he broke character a bit there, he didn't look like House for a few seconds.

And Gregory House

I hated Vogler, but I sided with Tritter.

While I hated Tritter more than Vogler Tritter's character is how most of us would react like if we experience something like he did...or simply if we have a doctor like House...😂

Ahhh I’m not alone Volger and Tritter must be the most unliked guys around town

And best of all, those characters weren't over the top villanous types, they were just extremely realistic control freaks.

Jigsaw was lie or die too

My mom:"learn or die"

@McLarenBMW Actualy she was quiet because she wanted to get discharged from the hospital as soon as possible because she was a workaholic.

You must have never met the doctors in my area.

She was also probably withholding the pain due to the location. It got them closer to her cuts.

Sometimes pain is bad enough that screaming doesn't even occur to you as a thing to do.

Yeah but then his character arc of him experiencing worse pain and becoming more cold and calculated because of it wouldn't have happened. seeing his decline was way better than seeing no change and missing his arc altogether.

He always cared about his patients, even a husband's patient. Dude almost broke down when the atheist guy prayed to God because "If I didn't then I didn't do everything I could to save my wife."

@@xyrenegade what episode was that?

@@thorl8354 S3 Finale where he fired everyone. S3E22 iirc

@@thorl8354 could search for "House miracle episode" Not sure the logical explanation of that episode tho, since they didn't provide any.

Ultimately that's how much an atheist values life.

@@smurfyday the hell does belief in a deity have to do with anything? Are you implying atheists don't value life? Because I'd actually argue atheists value life more than theists, since, as house put it, "this is all there is"

@@smurfyday You do realize that atheists often don't believe in an afterlife and dont believe in heaven or hell? They also don't believe in attaining god? Arguably, an atheist would be the one wanting to stay behind.

@@IronLegionnaire1 They are Implying the exact opposite... House is an Atheist, and SMurfyday is pointing out how that's a reason for why he gets mad at her patient when she doesn't value her life.

@@IronLegionnaire1 yeah you read too much into the first reply. They clearly meant they value life a lot due to their belief of this is IT. Not that others can't feel the same way but how can you claim to value life more when you have belief in the afterlife.

In fairness, their hospital is a lvl 1 trauma center, they probably hear a lot of that, plus they knew a doctor was in there so for all they knew, he just delivered some terrible news

@@eragonawesome Yeah, if you run to every room with a screaming patient, you’re gonna be running and that’s it

What gets me is that Cuddy knows that the department is overall financially beneficial for the hospital, but we never see her making these fiscal arguments to Vogler, instead appealing to his humanity. It makes for a better good vs evil narrative, but at the cost of believability that Cuddy wouldn't know how to appeal to Vogler's not-exactly-concealed interests.

@@chughes156 Yup, aka drama for the show. There are plenty of reasons she could have given instead of caving in, but they wanted a good versus evil segment.

that's house for you. the pettiest of petty

@@zephyromenix8755 He's referring to Volger

I think Vogler was more upset that $150 (???) of his "donation" went to a white lab coat that isn't getting used.

Cuddy is just very annoying sometimes. She values money over patients, basically 😒

@@SallyBMcgill 5 to 9 illustrates that for all she complains about House he’s only 15% of her day, and he’s 15% guaranteed to go right in the end which makes him desirable

Because they had different definitions of the word "ethics". He was talking about his own personal ethics. She was talking about standard care ethics in the medical industry, which he regularly flouts, because he doesn't agree with them. Ethics aren't one size fits all.

She understood, but she was having cognitive dissonance because she was trying to justify her own actions.

It's less 'clueless' and more... stuck between a rock and a hard place, and trying to fight her way out of it. And sometimes, acting clueless is a good defense for that.

Wanna do both

That unfortunately is where the trope “million is a statistic” comes into play

Bullshit, if House was the one arguing the opposite so would you

@thatonespathi i agree especially since it's kind of hard to decide who decides which lives we risk.. Now days unfortunately the decision lies in the hands of the rich (in my world rich also includes the powerful) And usually the rich become rich on the backs of the many

One person's Death is a Tragedy, a Million is a Statistic - Joseph Stalin

I’d also like to know the answer for this. Unfortunately I cannot provide the answer to this question.

It really depends on the situation and if something happened that required his attention. If he was not required at the meeting at all, then probably. Otherwise, it's uncertain as far as I know.

Chairman of the Board...not sure if that makes a difference or not. Possibly it does because he now controls the money spending for the entire hospital.

@Michelle Goodrow status, not counting a status that would ruin the organ after being donated, isn't often grounds to denied organs. It just determines your spot on the list. Getting lower on the list by not being an emergency or deemed less of a priority than others is what it gets you. Which for some people is as bad as being denied.

I think this was pre-HIPAA. A fair point, though. Vogler's position as Chair of the Board might enable him to sit-in on the theory that; a) he's already legally committed to the patient's medical privacy, and; b) his interest in overseeing the proper running of the hospital outweighs the risk to privacy created by his presence in the meeting.

Also Tritter had a reason to hate house. House did actually make mistakes and made it easy for tritter. Tritter gave him the chance to avoid charges by going to rehab. After house beat Tritter, Tritter wished him good luck. Tritter was a good man doing bad things

Tritter is overly obsessed with House in the wrong way, thinking that House will sell drugs but we all know House will never do such thing, he LOVES his pain pills. However, he never says something like "Health care is a business and I will run it like one". I hate Tritter but I *despise* Vogler.

@@franciscodetonne4797 healthcare is a business they don't make money they can't help anyone

The ending is best Patient: why did you do all this for me? House:…………..you’re my patient.

more like the devil is in the room to pressure her into being more discriminating against house

She’s suspicious because he’s acting too professional, and he isn’t bragging about how he got his hunch.

@Nehemiah Scudder well I really dont have that choice cause I'm too young, but I actually have free insurance in state and have been admitted to my hospital 17 times over 150 days total and paid zero for that. What we have paid for are trips to specialists out of state or treatment not covered. $20,000 of that money was spent on three weeks in Minnesota at the Mayo Clinic. But I've spent that much money over 4 years and have only gotten worse :( I haven't been able to walk in two years. Honestly the problem with Healthcare is that it takes months to see a specialist and they can say "i can't help you" so then you wait another 2 months to see someone else, another month for certain tests to be done, another month to go back to the doctor, then another month for insurance to approve treatment, then try treatment for a couple months that doesn't work. Then you restart over and over, for four years.

@Nehemiah Scudder EU I bet

@@swimfast724 Remember that before you ever vote Republican.

@Nehemiah Scudder true, although lucky enough we have some of the best specialist hospitals in the world.

My GP went to John 's Hopkins and he was a brilliant diagnostician . House is almost a direct copy of him except my doctor suffered PTSD from bring a stretcher beater at age 14 in the 1st WW. Often needed to go to a rest clinic for veterans. But being 6'5",very handsome,big blue eyes and super Demanding of all adults . Everyone was terrified of him but he was fantastic with me. I was dead on arrival but after 20 minutes he got me breathing. Then because my Mom had a very rare blood type and needed blood he got all sorts if administrators up in the middle if the night all over the country to try and find a match. This was back in the 1940's. Not only did he figure out what her blood problem was he kept me alive by getting wet nurses or burning Moms to take turns yo come to the hospital every 3 hours to feed me. My Mom was in ICU for 2 months and she lived . He too loved a puzzle but he hated idiots but was really gentle with kids. At 4 I was really not well . He finally figured out that I was on my way to becoming diabetic. He put me on a super stick diet that I stayed on until I was 25. I never became diabetic. He boiled up wild plants to save my life from whooping cough after trying every modern medicine for 6 weeks. Unlike House he did have a lovely wife ,a daughter and a son ,just like him. He worked up into his 90's. He continued to hold everyone's feet to the fire. His Dad had also attended John's Hopkins . His dad rode on horseback to treat patients in the middle if a snowstorm and deliver a calf on the side. These doctors really did exist. It is not all fiction.

Thank you for clearing it up.

Sad to say, but nurses get used to hearing patients scream and cry, frequently with nothing they can do about it

Well, I mean, the patient's already in with a doctor. Unless the doctor asks for help, adding more bodies in the room isn't going to help anyone.

Yup

I just scream "Yes, daddy!" 💜

That would have been awesome. He was a good antagonist to House would have been interesting to see how he'd react if House saved his life

She suspected House knew something as he was beating around the bush speaking diplomatically about the exclusion criteria. House is direct and Cuddy knew he was lying.

She also had to show that she has authority over him in front of Voglar.... The grilling happened after he came

In addition to what the others have said, Cuddy was perturbed as to how House knew the patient needed a transplant before the patient had tests run.

Because it was a yes or no question. But saying no is lying. While listing conditions she did not have is not lying

@@hotstuffwatcher thats called a lie of omission

His duty to save his patients is the only thing he cares about, even though he hides it.

🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️ That's corporate life for you.

Yeah but Tritter only went after House because House is a drug addict and bullies patients, Tritter was right to go after House

Tritter never says some absolute trash like "Health care is a business and I will run it like one". I hate Tritter but I *despise* Vogler.

I think Vogler's argument was more along the lines of "how many more patients could we save if we spent this money elsewhere?".

@@Fif0l His argument is a bit tied to the economical part, considering him being a bussiness man. His logic is that because you can take on easier cases, you can treat more people. But this also means that the sicker people are less worthy of a treatment because they require more time and bigger resources.

*entire show

He is epic in everything he has ever been in. Look up Blackadder 3rd.

Is she saying it like ‘you, House, always know’ or ‘you as a doctor shouldn’t put people on transplant lists unless you know’ because it’s not clear to me now i think about it

I am assuming it confirms the fan's theory about all the tests they run on the patient. The patient is probably only billed for the final treatment and tests that properly diagnosed the correct condition. Therefore, the hospital has to pay for all the other tests.

@@MathStringInputOutpu admitting I’m no expert I don’t think it works like that. The hospital would explain to the insurance company why the test was necessary and they would cover it. Rich patients like her would have great coverage. And the poorer patients he has probably does come out of the hospital pockets if medicade (or whatever it is) won’t cover it. Also house isn’t above lying on his files he send to the insurance company and cuddly isn’t above looking the other way. Like with the mobster or the baseball player.

Or lab coats.

I could name at least 10

soo sorry

I hope and pray advances in treatment will be at a faster rate than the advancement of her condition.

Hannah, bring up the suggestion to use an experimental artificial heart if nothing else works.

Have you considered a heroin habit?

how can it hurt so bad

Still one of the most powerful screams in the entire series

I upgraded to premium - bliss!

Life lessons?

My heart attack cost 770,000 dollars. 9 days in the hospital.

@Robert Terwilliger He breaks ethics to be moral. It wouldn't be ethical to ignore the conditions of a patient to give them the chance of a heart transplant if they had a history of self-harm, which might eventually throw that heart down the drain. However, it would be the moral thing to do. What he wanted was a pseudo-promise from the patient that would at least somewhat nullify the former, the history of self-harm, and justify ignoring that condition. House breaks his profession's code of ethics, a system put into place to purposefully undertake triage, to give aid to the patients that need it the most, and to determine who might be past the point of aid. e.g. a soldier's helmet is fused to his skull, what do you do? If a helmet got hot enough to fuse to a skull, the wearer is likely dead, so you don't need to worry about treating him. The ethical dilemma would come along as say, a buddy of this soldier comes along and asks you to check him. Do you waste your time checking a dead man, or do you continue treating patients who are actually still alive? The moral dilemma would come along when you find a very weak pulse. How do you even treat someone like that? Was he shot? How did the helmet fuse to his friggen skull? The moral dilemma is to treat or not when he is very likely not going to live either way.

if someone were to say that i would never take them seriously lmao. the urgency of “advil” being yelled would make me giggle

And the patient here is Nina Myers