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@crystalsbookishlife Жыл бұрын

Paying for the privilege of yelling at you is brilliant 😂😂❤

@happyperson8740 7 ай бұрын

Who would waste their money! Just hit the “negative” button. If enough people do that, KZfaq will not pay Lienne.

@arlissbunny Жыл бұрын

What you said about Stormlight is interesting. I am a physicist and I often have a terrible time reading scifi because my brain is screaming, “Authors! Google is your friend!” I always, however, feel “safe” reading Sanderson. He doesn’t forget little things like gravity and friction. As a side note, Tress is fun because fluid dynamics can be so counterintuitive and Sanderson plays with that. Re Kristoff - I really do not understand the women who like that book. I actually need someone to explain it to me because ick!

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

see, my background is in anthropology, not physics, and from that perspective, to borrow your wording, I do not feel "safe" reading Sanderson lol

@arlissbunny Жыл бұрын

That makes perfect sense to me. :-)

@exomake_mehorololo Жыл бұрын

That's actually nice to hear. I'm not a physicist but a biologist and I often want to cry a bit hearing people talk or write about anything from evolution, to genetics and immunology. It's great if an author makes the effort and can represent science well. I've never actually read Sanderson 😅.... His books seem rather long so not sure what's a good one to start is.

@arlissbunny Жыл бұрын

@@exomake_mehorololo The Sanderson books look long but the prose aren’t dense so the books all read fast. I started with The Final Empire, the first book in the Mistborn series, and I feel like starting there gave me a solid footing. Almost all of Sanderson’s books are set in the same universe, though not necessarily on the same planet. The Final Empire makes sense as a place to start without getting in too deep. What’s interesting about Mistborn is that you can read on from the first Mistborn era (trilogy) into the second. Mistborn era two is set on the same planet many hundreds of years later following a major geologic and climate event. It’s fascinating to see how the society has changed as a result. Mistborn era two isn’t for everyone. Sanderson has a silly sense of humor and one of two major POV characters is written to be funny. For me, Mistborn era two is my favorite because I am both interested by the science and I love these characters in particular.

@warpathh Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary sooo dumb.

@SirensOfSicily Жыл бұрын

I read and LOVED Empire of the Vampire, one of my favourites reads of 2022, my first Kristoff book and can't wait for the sequel. I obviously didn't get the same vibes as you, and can't recall feeling that way when reading it, goes to show different stories and writing resonate differently with different people.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

certainly, there's a book for every reader and a reader for every book

@osoisko1933 Жыл бұрын

I liked EotV overall too, but I really enjoy seeing other readers rip apart for some reason. My guess is it ultimately has no thematic value other than returning vampires to supernatural monsters instead of bad boy love interests and psuedo scientific plague zombies.

@edsheeran1243 Жыл бұрын

Not everyone can like everything and that's ok! I used to be a HUGE Sanderson fan until I committed myself to reading his entire bibliography I realized that he is one of the most inoffensive mid authors out there today. Books with Brittany compared his books to vanilla ice cream because they can appeal to just about anyone, but it's rare they will ever do anything truly mind-blowing and I think that description sums it up perfectly. Still love stormlight, warbreaker, and the bands of mourning, but other than that no thank you

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

yeah, I think one of the reasons he is so popular is because his writing and his books are very accessible and that, in itself, is not a bad thing, it just so happens that while i'm easily digesting his work I'm also frustrated by what I regard as immense flaws, but one person's bug is another person's feature, to each their own

@archlectoryarvi2873 Жыл бұрын

The Way of Kings was the book that finally made me realize that the cosmere franchise wasn't my jam. I don't hate it(the prologue and the climax were awesome), it's just that at the end of the day I don't think it did anything to justify it's ridiculous length. I've read books with half the page count that had just as good if not better character development, plot structure, prose and worldbuilding.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

yeah, they are unnecessarily long

@alquin9553 Жыл бұрын

DNFd The Way of Kings. It was slow and I didn’t get the point of it. I don’t know if I should give any other Sanderson book a chance.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I personally enjoyed the first two Mistborn books, unfortunately the conclusion to that trilogy soured me on it a bit, and I liked the first Skyward book, but I haven't read the rest so I don't know how good the series is overall

@alquin9553 Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary thank you for answering. I do have Mistborn book. I think I’ll give it a read. Fortunately, I just have the first book-I had to give away the box set I had of the Stormlight Archive.

@jonnie7891 Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait for the trend of putting “cozy” in front of every genre to end. You are right about Babel. I don’t get the hype over RF Kuang in general. I hate that these are unpopular opinions or hot takes because you make so many good points.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

yeah, out with the cozy in with the grimdark lol

@jonnie7891 Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary I just watched a video about Cozy Dark Fantasy…what is going on?? 😩

@jessicahaalstra6998 Жыл бұрын

I saw cozy horror 😂

@kerisbookishcorner2864 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy that you do these videos because even if I don’t agree I still find hearing differing opinions interesting. I seem to either agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts or completely disagree so I just am so curious to see where I fall on so many of these lol And weirdly now I am somewhat intrigued now to read those of this list that are on my TBR…

@TheDisturbednerd Жыл бұрын

Hi Liene, Way of Kings has a really cool final act but it's a very slow trudge. Also, the physical description in Way of Kings was so absent. Words of Radiance is significantly better. Way of Kings has a lot of stuff set up that doesn't get answered until even the fourth book.

@Sarah.reads.sometimes Жыл бұрын

I bought all 3 Five Warrior Angels books for the book club & have only read the first one 😅 I plan on continuing but not any time soon because those books are long af & I’m nervous based on your & Aaron’s reviews 😂

@Bread_Bug Жыл бұрын

I’m halfway through Way of Kings right now, and I like it enough, but I’m definitely feeling some of these points. Mostly that it feels like there’s large swaths of text that don’t really contribute much of anything, and feel like they could’ve simply been cut out and we’d have a much better pace. I’m also just not getting that “masterpiece” feeling yet. I’m interested enough to keep going, but I feel like I’m waiting to see what everyone else sees. I wanna add, I actually found this channel through your Air Awakens review, which I heavily agreed with. THAT was an overhyped book for me, thanks to tiktok. That book is recommended to no end there and I didn’t like any of it

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

hope you enjoy Way of Kings more than I did if for no other reason that it's too long to read and not enjoy, and yeah, Air Awakens was so bad lol

@JessicaGreenfield Жыл бұрын

What's with all the Sanderson hate on here? I like that Sanderson writes simple so that he can bridge the gap between YA and adult fantasy. His ability to write characters like they came from a Saturday morning cartoon and create magic systems that mimic video games are also great for getting kids to read. People shouldn't be so hard on him. We all have different reading levels and he is a great next step for those moving past Dr. Seuss to something a little more sophisticated.

@archlectoryarvi2873 Жыл бұрын

Sanderson is immensely popular in just about every major sff community on the internet. For sff readers who don't like his works or don't like him because of his religious affiliations, this can be grating as you can't go more than a week without encountering a video/article/post about how his books are the greatest thing since sliced bread. So every once in a while, they come to places like this and vent their frustrations which is understandable IMO. Personally I'm rather lukewarm on his works. Read a handful of them, enjoyed some of those and decided they weren't really my thing.

@NightOwlReader2790 Жыл бұрын

I dnfed Mistborn, and I don't have any interest in picking up his other books. I think his books are kind of boring.

@stonefree7973 Жыл бұрын

I love Mistborn. I don’t understand the Sanderson hate either 🙂

@gerardhynes5825 Жыл бұрын

I read mostly SciFi and Historical fiction but recieved L&L and Babel as presents. I found L&L totally relaxing and Babel interesting, neither were bad. I also got The Children of Gods and Fighting Men which was awful.

@matildesaraiva5288 Жыл бұрын

The way of kings video was in fact how i got to your chanel. Loved the video, watched it 3 times before you took it down. Its pure gold

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

haha glad you enjoyed!

@readingreignbro5680 Жыл бұрын

Omg you mentioned a book that I like. What gives? 😆 these are the videos I love. Like, our book opinions are pretty opposite, but I love your videos and personality. Happy reading, friend. Cheers.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

haha glad to hear it - the world would be dull indeed if we all had the same tastes and opinions

@alexverrall2760 Жыл бұрын

Absolutley loved Malice and thought the characters and world really resonated I liked the more low key development and more mundane beginnings. Also loved traitors blade for the action and themes and red sister for its really intresting premise and I really liked the nuns journey. I agree completely about the forgetting moon and had similar thoughts it did feel very heavy handed and over the top. Somthing I like about your videos is that you come across as very sincere in your observations and criticisms though as can been seen above I often disagree its nice to see such an honest and down to earth channel.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

thanks so much, that's lovely to hear 🧡

@rapturedmourning Жыл бұрын

I prefer worldbuilding that supports character/story, not just for the sake of worldbuilding itself.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

on rare occassions, world building is so impressive that I can appreciate it for its own sake, but that is indeed an exception

@harmanpiano Жыл бұрын

Timestamps would be appreciated

@FreeLatveria Жыл бұрын

Trying to keep it spoiler free. Legends and Lattes lost me with the romance. I love a good fantasy friendship, can be one of my favorite things in a book, and I think L&L was doing the friendships great. But very few romances do I really ever care for the one in this book either.

@LifeasMonae Жыл бұрын

Omg, I have yet to see another booktuber having read Dawn of Wonder. I LOVED that book and it deserves so much more recognition

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

it's so good!

@Alihassan9193 Жыл бұрын

It helped me become a fantasy books fan. It has its flaws, but I loved it.

@Em-ke3nm Жыл бұрын

I don’t like Brandon’s writing style and I’m definitely not fit to be a proper reviewer because I can’t say why: it just feels super mechanical and cold and like “try-hard”. I’ve tried a couple of times but it’s just not for me:

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

lol I get what you mean, so that's something anyway

@alb0zfinest 4 ай бұрын

The YA-ification of High Fantasy 😆. Unfortunately many fantasy books have this problem now. Prose is absolutely horrendous.

@thatsci-firogue Жыл бұрын

I don't have many anti-buzzwords when it comes to books but Cozy Fantasy is definitely one of them. I'm not against Cozy books, it's just not what I read Fantasy for. Comfort reads I get, but those don't necessarily have to be cozy.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

yeah, I truly don't get the appeal of "cozy" fantasy, plots tend to need at least a bit of conflict or problems in order to, you know, have a plot?

@nickywal Жыл бұрын

I literally saw a video for cozy dark fantasy today, like what

@tawallah77 Жыл бұрын

Okay, I am sad that I missed the rant video for TWOK, that is definitely overhyped. And yes the fandom keeps saying it’s the best thing and yet can’t give a cohesive summary. Does Allen approve your view of L&L? I remember him coming back after a break wondering what happened in his absence with that book. I have no interest in reading despite the hype. I am attempting Babel again, I had issues with characters and the way it was written. I’ve chalked it up to me not being the correct audience. I hardly see anyone talk about Dawn of Wonder. I need to pick this up. I did. like it but struggled with the audio.

@412JFury 10 ай бұрын

Glokta is one-hundred-percent my comfort character!

@ericmerrell8622 Жыл бұрын

With most Booktuber's I can predict whether or not I will agree with them with a fair amount of consistency. However, whenever I watch one of your videos I have noticed there is roughly a 50/50 chance whether I will be cheering along with what you're saying, or if I will be sitting in stunned silence that you could possibly be so wrong.... which truth be told is a good way to keep people coming back.

@millymollymrst3537 Жыл бұрын

I love your opinions and rants even if I don't always agree with you.😊

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

🧡

@theminedaha2832 7 ай бұрын

I am with you on malice .. I am reading it now and it's painful .. sometimes I listen to a chapter or 2 unconciously and when I fkcus again I don't feel I'm missing anything I just want to finish this book and get rid of it

@MrDe4dGuy34 Жыл бұрын

Every book you listed was an absolute favorite of mine and I am so terribly insul- yeah, I can't even finish that sentence in jest. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it is good for everyone. Personally, I have never liked Harry Potter as a series, even before the controversies surrounding it. However, anytime I mention I don't care for the books, people either look at me in utter disbelief or nod as if I'm making some grand moral stand. No, I just don't like the dang books.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

yeah, popularity is rarely a good indicator of quality, unfortunately

@derekb.4292 Жыл бұрын

I haven't read most of these. Way of Kings was an interesting one for me. I feel like I am a little bit of a Sanderfan, but I struggled with certain aspects. It was my first true epic fantasy read so I wasn't sure if that was part of it for me, but if I wasn't already a big fan of Sanderson, I definitely would have DNFed it after the consecutive false starts. The audio was probably what made it work for me because I would just listen to it while walking or going to visit my parents on the weekends, so it became kind of a chill episodic drama that lasted two months. I hear you on the characters though, Kalladin frustrates me more than anything and I didn't know what to make of Shallan until Words of Radiance. World building didn't bother me, but it didn't majorly impress me either. Funnily enough, a lot of his fans tend to bash Elantris, but I think that might be my favorite thing that he's written.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I had high hopes for Elantris, the prologue was incredible, but I ended up dnfing it haha - I did really like Final Empire and Well of Ascension and I really liked Skyward, so I'm capable of enjoying a Sanderson now and again lol

@derekb.4292 Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary Elantris was pretty bleak for a while, but did pick up. I haven't read Skyward yet, but I think I'll enjoy that one. Legion is one I quite enjoyed that I feel like no one talks about.

@ChrissiesPurpleLibrary Жыл бұрын

Great video! 👏🏾👏🏾either it was a book I hadn’t read yet or I DNF and unhauled too. I feel seen 🤣🤣💜

@bethmetcalf3447 Жыл бұрын

I loved some of the books you didn’t like but I also understand how you felt on others. I’ve bought hyped books in the past and hated them so now I only buy a hyped book if I think I’ll actually like it. Each to their own, some you like some you don’t and that’s as it should be😀I think as long as you’re being respectful about the books you don’t like, nobody has the right to yell at you for being honest with your opinions 🤔😀

@matthewdeancole Жыл бұрын

I am surprised Dreams of the Dying didn't make the list. It is self-published but did get some hype on KZfaq. Perhaps not as much as the others on the list.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I thought about it, but it didn't feel to me like it was that hyped outside of a brief period of time on handful of channels

@JoelAdamson Жыл бұрын

I've only read parts of two of these. You're still right about Way of Kings. It isn't about anything. It takes place in a particular world, the characters have problems, but there is no story. Red Sister got really standard really fast.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

it does indeed take place in a particular world, that is made very clear lol

@krudler406 Жыл бұрын

this is very timely...b/c i have to go to the bookstore today, and i feel like if you don't like it then that's a pretty good sign for me

@niebieskie2 Жыл бұрын

oh, I was bored and underwhelmed by Legends & Lattes and apparently it's not for me either. funny how Traitor's Blade wasn't my favorite either but I did read the whole series, and it was better than book one but still, I have no strong feelings about it. The rest of those (minus WoK, duh and Malice, this also got better, but I agree about characters, I didn't think they're great but I'm a sucker for a good vs evil when mood strikes) I knew I wouldn't like so I did not attempt.

@niebieskie2 Жыл бұрын

Also, just an afterthought and you made me giggle a little with your closing statement. I never really understood why people get so upset about someone else's poor opinion about their favorite book. When others point out flaws that they see and I don't it makes me examine the book differently and more objectively, doesn't make me angry. Am I the wierdo?

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

people get VERY upset lol which never ceases to amaze me

@beardfromtadcymru9714 Жыл бұрын

Of the books I've read on your list, The Forgetting Moon, I thought was OK, didn't really push on as I'd hoped. Haven't read book 2 yet, but I will soon(ish) Malice 😮 I thought it was good and the rest of the series was amazing. But each to their own. For me over hyped books/Series... Misborn - DNFd book 2 - was so bored. Red Rising - making my way through book 3 now. Book 1 started OK; fell off a cliff. Was awful. Book 2 I enjoyed much more, but apparently it's not supposed to be as hilarious as I found it. Book 3 OK so far.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

well I love Red Rising but, as you say, to each their own

@beardfromtadcymru9714 Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary indeed, but at least we can both agree on First Law 😀

@RodgersReads Жыл бұрын

Lmao I didn't know you had such deep hatred for Stormlight. I was pretty mid on book 1, you make me scared to ever try book 2 of five warrior angels lolol. Thank god someone else hates Ice Planet Barbarians...it was so bad.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

Warrior Angels book 2 was so much worse lol

@RodgersReads Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary well that just got kicked way down the ol’ TBR so…thank you for your sacrifice 🤣🤣🤣

@esmayrosalyne Жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, I grabbed some popcorn before starting this video, hahah. Loved hearing all of your 'hot takes'... though are they really that hot? I totally agree with you on the majority of these 🤪 I've been talked into giving Traitor's Blade a second chance and I am curious to see how much I am going to regret that, lol. And I had such high hopes for Forgetting Moon, but seeing you and Aaron be so disappointed in those books has really put me off, because I really trust your guys' tastes, haha. I was personally incredibly disappointed in Guards! Guards!, The Shadow of the Wind, Dune, The Midnight Library, Blood Song, The Rage of Dragons and (sorry not sorry) The Secret History, to name a few 🤣 Loved this video 🤩

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I was also disappointed with Guards and Rage of Dragons 🙃

@Gillian.Ashcroft.66 Жыл бұрын

Love differing opinions ❤🎉 - what happened to the vegan cooking creations ???

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I didn't have the bandwidth to keep up with it for the time being, but I'd like to do it again in the future

@Gillian.Ashcroft.66 Жыл бұрын

You're well worth watching, so if you do any, I will see them. 🤗

@bexencr 6 ай бұрын

I just watched this video and first: Liene, you're so funny! This was highly entertaining! Second: I like good Fantasy and Sci-fi books, and when I say good I mean well-written, well-developed, well-crafted books. So naturally I've never read Sanderson because everything inside me is warning me that I won't like it. At the same time I also see all these people saying he's so great that I doubt myself... should I try it? But arrrgh, there are so many other books that look great that I also want to read, so should I really waste my time? That's my dilemma hahaha, anyway, Liene reassures the part of me that's saying "don't read it", but I guess that one day I will still do, so I can make my own opinion and maybe join Liene's ranks hahaha!

@johnthomas2485 7 ай бұрын

What is "Cozy Fantasy?"

@watcherofwatchers 2 ай бұрын

I hard disagree with you on Sanderson, but I already knew that, and it doesn't bother me in the least. We all have different tastes and opinions, and I would personally have it no other way. I value your perspective, and I always check to see if you, Bookborn, or Merphy have reviewed a book once I have finished reading it just to see what your takes are.

@Catcupid Жыл бұрын

I feel like I'm disappointing you when I say you didn't piss me off, but that's only cause I haven't read any of these. I think I will try Babel and I am not against reading Sanderson, but I have only read The final empire (which I did enjoy) but have yet to read anything else. Go figure.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I also enjoyed Final Empire...

@jessicaflower71 Жыл бұрын

I would love to have see Stormlight Archive reviews by you after Words of Radiance when Sanderson writing falls off a cliff. I one hundred percent believe Sanderson when he says researched the mental illness of his characters because they all puke out the DSM manual and Wikipedia. It's like watching the old Dragnet TV series when Jo Friday would monologue on the social ills of the world. Makes Durfee seem subtle and nuanced. It doesn't surprise me that so many of the people praising Gwynne as a great character writer are huge Sanderson fans. I would think that too coming off Stormlight.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

lmao yeah, sounds like I wouldn't have liked the next books any better - guess I'll just keep rereading First Law hehe

@fraternalcloud3883 Жыл бұрын

Loved Empire of the Vampire, don't understand the misogyny or homo phobia you got from it. Always interesting hearing what other people think or get out of books. I have second thoughts on reading Way of Kings now.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

well, if you're interested, Alex and I gave examples during our live chat 😉

@audge-ii8ux Жыл бұрын

not me being disappointed "lessons in chemistry" isn't here only because i hated it so much and still can't believe it's like the ~feminist~ book of 2022 lol 😂

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I almost put it on the list, but I mainly wanted to focus on fantasy haha

@jmcoelho7 9 ай бұрын

I agree with you about about Way of the Kings, I struggled to maintain interest in that book and ultimately abandoned it.

@ReeceG231 Жыл бұрын

Subscribed to see the Way of Kings video and it was everything I needed. I've literally never heard a scathing review for that book. I'm not for hate but it's absolutely mind blowing that with that much visibility nearly noone calls out the blatant flaws

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

well, anyone that dares to criticize it faces quite the onslaught of hate which is pretty daunting so it's not that surprising haha - glad you enjoyed!

@nestorcaceres8928 Жыл бұрын

Have you ever heard of the series The Runelords by David Farland?

@bluelionz Жыл бұрын

Never understood the hype around books from authors like Coleen Hoveer or Jenkins Reid, but I can't judge the people who enjoy them. Glad they found something that makes them happy. Never read Empire of the Vampire, but everyone I know that read it, loved it. To the point that they order special editions of it. Also, I think Forgetting Moon is hyped only because the author is a fun youtuber with interesting weird videos.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

whoa whoa, Taylor Jenkins Reid is in a completely different league from Colleen Hoover!

@robo6625 Жыл бұрын

I'm not mad you didn't like Malice. I'm just disappointed. 😂 I didn't really love Malice, either. It didn't pull me in. But by the second book I was more invested. And by the end of the series I definitely had all the feelings. Great video, as always.

@thJune-ze7dn Жыл бұрын

I can't believe I'm only just finding out now about your rant review of The Way of Kings??... Liene just keeps going up and up in my estimation. The best analogy I've heard to Sanderson fans becoming infuriated that others don't consider him a God amongst writers is that it's like someone showing up to a wine sommelier with a bottle of Welch's Grape Juice and being shocked that nobody's taking them seriously.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

bahahaha I need that to be a sketch now

@Trencher1375 Жыл бұрын

Sandersons world building have lot of details but little nuance. Something people now adays enjoy.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

that's a good way of putting it, definitely not my cup of tea

@benja6902 Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear there is somebody else out there who doesn't love Malice. I didn't like it either - I got thru book 2, before I dnf'ed. Its good to see some other way over hyped books get dropped down a few pegs.

@finnmyers7137 Жыл бұрын

Just finished The Way of Kings and thought it was amazing. With what you said about it, did we even read the same book? 💀

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

reasonable minds can differ 🧡

@finnmyers7137 Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary fair enough ig 🤷‍♂️

@cmmosher8035 Жыл бұрын

I tried reading Sanderson's books and all i got out of his works are that i find dissertations on how the finer points of eating metal turns you into a second rate Xman boring as fuck. Overall i just don't care about magic systems that are complex just to be complex.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

lmao yeah, I would tend to agree

@aldan7812 Жыл бұрын

Lol. I am actually new and genuinely did not know about the Sando thing hahahaha. Thats funny. Liene is still the best chuck out the rest, and WoK is one of the best books ever written and both of these things are still true in my pitiful tiny mind :-)

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

reasonable minds can differ 🧡

@aldan7812 Жыл бұрын

@Liene's Library damn straight they can :)

@laiquende9971 Жыл бұрын

I didn't even find Legends and Lattes cozy...thanks for confirming I'm not crazy for being bored to tears

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

lol my pleasure

@seniorpumpkinhead1 11 ай бұрын

Nah you just confirmed you're BOTH crazy 🤣 (joking)

@peterc.hayward8067 9 ай бұрын

Hahaha yeah the total lack of tension, conflict, or obstacles was absolutely stunning to me. She literally has a magic rock that just gets her what she wants. A rare DNF for me.

@_Sasha_Sasha Жыл бұрын

Well, as long as we're pissing people off: For me, that book is The Fifth Season. I wouldn't call it BAD, per se...but it's not good. Ineffective at immersion for characters' perspective, faulty use of narrative tense, a bungled climax, limited scope of worldbuilding. Not for me.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

uh oh, better not watch part 2 aka books that I think DO deserve the hype...

@_Sasha_Sasha Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary Oh, I'm a glutton for punishment. Bring it on.

@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын

Simon Toyne's 'Sanctus' trilogy.

@AahanaB Жыл бұрын

I agree with you most of these books are overhyped. Mistborn just had a cult following prior to Sanderson's involvement with WoT. I wonder where he would be in the fantasy pecking order if he didn't get handed the keys by Tor to the most popular adult fantasy series since The Lord of the Rings

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

certainly WoT benefited his career, but I'm sure he'd have a pretty substantial following today even without that

@searoses Жыл бұрын

I don't really understand the criticism of From Blood and Ash. I'm not really a fan of that book (I tried reading it a year ago and only got halfway through lol) but why does it matter if it feels like an urban fantasy but it's not? It's not like someone sounding old timey in a modern set book because it's fantasy, it's not real or realistic to begin with

@SkywalkerOne1977 2 ай бұрын

Regarding Stormlight, by the time I go into book 4, I was tired of Kaladin being a depressed mess all day. He overcame his depression at an amazing breaking point in book 1, and should not have still been dealing with it in book 4.

@joshyaks Жыл бұрын

You are absolutely a reader/BookTuber after my own heart!! 1) The First Law is my favourite fantasy of all time (I posted a 60-minute long review gushing about it!). 2) The only Sanderson I've read is the original Mistborn trilogy and I was sufficiently unimpressed to not read another Sanderson since. 3) I had a lot of problems with the Licanius trilogy, to the point where I made a 50-minute long review critiquing it. 4) I had just as many problems with The Faithful and the Fallen, and ended up posting an absurdly long 100-minute long review/critique!

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

we'll bravely shout our truths into the storm!

@christeascozycorner Жыл бұрын

some of my fave books are on this list but i still watched this video in its entirety because i enjoy pain 😎

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

Your sacrifice is appreciated

@lisacole6037 Жыл бұрын

I don't like Mistborn, The Sword of Kaigen, The Poppy War or Jade City. I LOVE Red Sister, though, and the rest of that trilogy. I'll be reading Malice soon and I got Legends and Lattes for cheap. Hope I like them.

@cassieplatt1480 Жыл бұрын

I feel like 90% of the time we share similar feelings/tastes for books but there's always an outlier here and there 😅 for this video it would be EOTV and The Way of Kings. Which the latter is funny because I liked it best and the rest of the Stormlight series keeps going downhill for me. 🤔🤷‍♀️

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

well, if WoK was the best one, I'm very glad I stopped there lol

@AshtheViking Жыл бұрын

Way of Kings- I haven't read it but I've read several of Sanderson's other books and thought they were ok but people still always say I'll love Way of Kings. I find that highly doubtful. Forgetting Moon- DNF Traitor's Blade- I quite enjoyed the premise and the brotherhood, fun action, but there was some definite cringe and the later books have some of the worst deus ex machina I've ever encountered. Empire of the Vampire- DNF Shadow of What Was Lost- fine. boring interchangeable characters. I forget everything. Malice- The rest of the books makes it one of my favourite series of all time. Maquin is the GOAT. Red Sister- meh.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

glad I'm not alone in all of these unpopular opinions haha

@EhsJaySaunders Жыл бұрын

Well, if nothing else, you're proof that I can disagree with a good portion of someone's viewpoints and still appreciate their content!

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

haha cheers!

@72mje Жыл бұрын

I thought I was quite alone in not liking Way of Kings. I DNF'd it 50% in. Have no interest in giving it another try. And I am in complete agreement with you on 5 Warrior Angels. I DNF'd book 2 at 30% and just YIKES. I've been looking forward to Empire of the Vampire, but now you made me nervous about reading it. I thought Malice was pretty good, it went fast (but I didn't think anyone would be into it for the characters), but OMG, I had a hard time reading Valour and haven't picked up Ruin since. Red Sister is on my TBR for later in the year, will be interesting to see how I like it. This was a fun video full of really hot takes. I agree with you on more books than I disagree on, so there is that... ;)

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

a lot of people like Empire so you may too!

@Jay_Mike Жыл бұрын

Sheeesh, went in on this one 😂

@tommheow7129 Жыл бұрын

Kinda want you to read the rest of the stormlight archive just so i could hear you rant about them. The Way of Kings video is how I found this channel. I loved TWOK actually but the rest of the Stormlight Archive is just so disappointing for me.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I'd consider it if they weren't such doorstoppers lol

@lessariel914 Жыл бұрын

i loved Way of Kings the characters and settings were great the story just dragged me along, i didnt want to put it down but Mistborn was dire, not sure why people love it, the characters were naff & the plot was lacking. just goes to show Sanderson is a varied author & not everything he does is for everyone. (bizarely i have a physics background so maybe thats why)

@Ejacula Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I actually agree with most of these 😂 I couldn't finish Empire of the Vampire. After hearing all the great reviews I was disappointed. Malice was bad. Everyone said it only gets better, I got threw half of book 2... That was rough. No thanks. Stormlight archive was so painful to read. I can't stand all the self-doubt whining bs. So boring. I enjoyed book 2 Words of Radiance, but books 1, 3 & 4 were rough.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

glad I'm not alone haha

@thomasc9036 Жыл бұрын

Sanderson's books are very similar to "superhero comic books/movies". Since I got tired of superhero movies, I got tired of Sanderson's books pretty quick.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I definitely feel they the marvel comparison, especially with the big crossover universe thing

@thomasc9036 Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary I know that many modern readers enjoy action-by-action descriptions. It's only interesting one or two times for me. His books are like manga without pictures. About halfway through, I can't help thinking "I should just read mangas"...if I was still into them.

@jayaprakash387 Жыл бұрын

@@thomasc9036Comparing it to manga is not fair. Yes the shounen manga are similar but there are authors like naoki urasawa in the medium that are as good as the best literary writers.

@thomasc9036 Жыл бұрын

@@jayaprakash387 You can always find exceptions. I can say "Men are stronger than women". You can always find a few women who are stronger than average men. That does not make my statement "not fair".

@jayaprakash387 Жыл бұрын

@@thomasc9036 Yes that's why I disagreed with you saying the medium of manga as a whole.

@eljcd Жыл бұрын

I don't even like cinnamons rolls. You can shout at me now...

@FreeLatveria Жыл бұрын

I think the Traitors Blade rant review was how I found your channel. I was okay with that book until we hit *that* chapter and anyone who had read it knows exactly what I mean. Plus the end is just dumb.

@maxt5319 Жыл бұрын

People like Way of Kings for the physics?! I read some of it, thought the writing was boring and uninteresting, then promptly stopped. I may try again because I do have a physics degree and love me some physics.

@nitzeart Жыл бұрын

I guess I'm also on the dark side because I cannot stand Stormlight Archive. The world building makes no sense, it's just dumb. So dumb. Sanderson doesn't understand how humans work socially or historically. The characters do nothing for me. His romantic relationship are honeslty so cringe, they come from no development, they just are. And his prose is very straight to the point and has no depth. (And of course, it could have been much shorter.) And let me tell you, I am in stem and I got NOTHING related to physics out of this book. If anything, Sanderson's works are very religious imo. I did like Mistborn, though now that I look back I didn't really love the third book. I don't know what it is that people fall head over heels over with his books. Some are good. I will probably read Skyward and Warbreaker but that's all. It feels almost heretical to talk bad about Sanderson books haha

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed the first two mistborn books, but I felt the religious tone of the conclusion was really heavy handed and totally put me off. I read Warbreaker last year and I'm honestly shocked that people are okay with that book because the twist is, errrrrr, not okay imo

@nitzeart Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary Yes you're so right. At first I didn't catch it but after a while it began to bother me so much the way the themes are handled in Mistborn. (I also have an issue with how he wrote the main romantic pairing in that series.) I'm ok with the worldbuilding in this series. I stopped reading after book 5 though. But the one in Stormlight... is just sooo bad! Oh noo Warbreaker was one of the few Sanderson books I still had interest in. But it's not priority.

@adamnesico Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary wich is the problem with a religious tone in the conclusion?

@adamnesico Жыл бұрын

Sanderson doesn’t understand how humans work socially or historically?

@ellisg95 Жыл бұрын

Liene coming out swinging 😂 TBF I loved Way of Kings, Warbreaker and Words of Radiance, but I DNF'd Oathbringer. Couldn't get into Mistborn either. Not knocking anyone loving Sanderson, but imo he is a bit overhyped. Hit or miss for me.

@alexvaldiers9788 9 ай бұрын

Wow, I've read 8 of those and was disappointed by all 8 of them (with Empire of the Vampire having lots of redeeming qualities). You and I share the same taste!

@alexvaldiers9788 9 ай бұрын

Actually, I've read all of them or at least tried to. Red Sister had a great beginning and amazing ending but the middle part was a slog. I dnf'ed Babel and Forgetting Moon.

@tgibridays Жыл бұрын

I mean, you're free to be wrong. 😂 Or conversely, I'm wrong. If so, I'm fine with that too. I never saw your Way of Kings review, but from what you've said I pretty much disagree with you on all points. Sanderson isn't an amazing author and isn't perfect, but he is really good at the things I love to see in fiction, so he's typically a good fit for me. On the otherhand Abercrombie is really good at doing things I don't tend to enjoy, so he doesn't fit for me (from what I've read). As for Legends and Lattes (the only other one I've read in this list), I can see how you'd not like it. I thought it was fun. Not genre changing, but it was a fun read. Not the kind of thing I would want to read all the time though.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

i'll carry on rereading First Law and you'll carry on rereading Sanderson and everyone will be happy with what suits them best 🧡

@tgibridays Жыл бұрын

@@LienesLibrary sounds like a plan. Happy reading!

@alexvaldiers9788 9 ай бұрын

I feel Sanderson's world-building is basically a copy and paste of the Civilization games. He himself admitted to be addicted to those games and it clearly shows in this books: the trade routes, the religion VS science VS culture, the smaller civilizations to push around, etc.

@JoelPonsSchmidt 9 ай бұрын

OK how are you able to finish a book that you despise? That’s kind of a superpower that I don’t think I’ll ever have. Kudos to you for hanging in there.

@LienesLibrary 8 ай бұрын

if I didn't have a channel on which to vent my fury, I wouldn't...

@JoelPonsSchmidt 8 ай бұрын

@@LienesLibrary the answer to end all answers.

@rivka8576 15 күн бұрын

I like some Sanderson books, but I couldn't finish Way of Kings....

@Felesina Ай бұрын

I agree that way of kings is not as good as people say. Totally agree so many dumb things happened in it, bad pacing, and I didn’t like the characters. People don’t talk about it’s flaws and it’s so weird.

@LEARSIKCIGAM Жыл бұрын

Fight Club - better movie than book (that is rare)

@SpiritofAloha11 Жыл бұрын

"I kind of understand.... I KIND OF understand? I KIIIIIND OF understand? I don't understand..." Lollll. Now that's an honest attempt!

@tylermckinnon5496 Жыл бұрын

I don't like Brandon Sanderson's magic systems, there too weird. I always need to suspend my disbelief in order to enjoy the books. Also he's too happy, he's kind of the opposite of grim dark, good things will always happen to good people in a way that's too perfect and it losses suspense. Other than that I like his books.

@NightOwlReader2790 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, I think Brandon Sanderson as well as Stephen King are not as good as everyone say they are. Their books are overwritten monstrosities.

@SkywalkerOne1977 2 ай бұрын

The most perfect story I've ever seen was Attack on Titan. Amazing in every regard.

@andrewf7732 Жыл бұрын

You're wrong about Way of Kings ;p Well you're right about the pacing, that was my issue with it, but I still loved the book despite that. But I'm just of the opinion that no book or series is for everyone, even ones with astronomical ratings on Goodreads. I for the life of my do not get the love for The Six of Crows duology. To me it's very average, but it's beloved by so many people. Also, now having read The Dandelion Dynasty, I think that series handled the theme of colonialism so much better than Babel. Ken Liu deserves much more love (and imo a way better writer than RF Kuang). Apart from Way of Kings, I agree with all your hot takes on the books that I read even if I liked the book. These videos are always fun to watch, so thanks!

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

definitely agree about Liu > Kuang!

@Rachaelinwonderland998 10 ай бұрын

I liked way of kings somewhat but it is definitely overhyped, I actually prefer way of kings to words of radiance so you were probably right to stop if you really disliked way of kings lol.

@markbromley3836 Жыл бұрын

Is it weird that I've used this for recommendations 🤣

@spyroskampanos7965 Жыл бұрын

I was so sure I would love the five warrior angels.Booktube promised me its the next big grimdark series.Boy was I disappointed.The series grows progressively worse with each installment.If you had issues with the first two books, icant imagine your reaction with the third.

@LienesLibrary Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I'll never find out lol

@fromheaventoearth5779 9 ай бұрын

I found a lot of these horrible too. Not sure how you finished them. Edit: I hate to say this because I know what it takes to write a book. It is a lot of work.

@Klemeron Жыл бұрын

Mistborn more like Missborn eyyy?

@stonefree7973 Жыл бұрын

I have only finished Mistborn Era 1 but there are a lot of great things about it.

@EponineReads 9 ай бұрын

But you obviously secretly want to have a discussion. The people that like this book are just trying to get you to look at it through different eyes. From a different perspective. Empathy.