Tom Scott (tomscott.com @tomscott) and Matt Parker (standupmaths.com @standupmaths) investigate some of the London Underground's greatest lies.
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@4eyesinthecorner3993 жыл бұрын
There is an airport somewhere (don’t remember the specifics) that uses a similar psychology. People were complaining about having to wait for too long at the baggage collection area so the airport built/signposted a new route that would take longer to walk to the baggage area. And it worked! There were less complaints about having to wait for too long because everyone was walking round the new route instead so by the time they got there, their baggage was waiting for them.
@MrHat.3 жыл бұрын
Honestly that just sounds like every major International airport
@TheWinjin2 жыл бұрын
Also, I've noticed that I actually take some great pleasure from walking these halls, for a very simple reason - it's really nice to stretch your legs and walk for a bit after being cramped in the flying tube for four hours. The only thing I want is an easily accessible toilet somewhere along the way. And, definitely, an easily readable navigation - I've been to (only a couple) airports that don't have that and you keep walking and are like... wait, did I miss the correct turn and somehow got stranded in the airport bowels?
@mitchelldurward88632 жыл бұрын
I think that was Denver iirc
@chr1srugby2 жыл бұрын
Palma de Mallorca Airport is like this. It has enormous terminals and takes quite a while to walk from your plane to baggage collection. They even have flat 'escalators' which aren't always on. It takes a good 7-8 minutes to get to baggage collection.
@Mayaman672 жыл бұрын
They would have to make a massive walk around in Manchester because it take s nearly two hours to get the bags off.
@sepiasmith50654 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they didn't just say "grr they make us slower this is unfair!" but instead actually explained why this is necessary
@Connection-Lost3 жыл бұрын
They really didn't though
@boringperson-zb8vy3 жыл бұрын
@@Connection-Lost they did. If so many people was in the same place, it would be a crush. This is dangerous
@abccanada62483 жыл бұрын
@@boringperson-zb8vy and as said in the video "slower for everyone"
@rttrttyan3 жыл бұрын
It’s not necessary though. If I ever missed a train and therefore something important cause of one of those lies you best bet there would would be a lawsuit on the way for damages. Edit: Ok. I admit any lawsuit would be a failure and a waste of my time and money. I still believe that, if there is more than one way to get to a destination, the sign should point to the route with the shortest distance. In cases of areas that receive a lot of traffic, it can, in addition to the fastest route, list “alternative routes” however it should have to list them as such.
@isaacmulak9583 жыл бұрын
@@rttrttyan except that if they didn't "lie" to you then you would be even more late. That's the whole point is if they made these paths just general knowledge then there would be too many people trying to go that way and it would take longer. It's up to you to know these things without them telling you so you can take the shorter path with ease
@jlammetje8 жыл бұрын
This explains so much! When I was visiting London I wondered why I couldn't seem to remember my way around Banks. It changes!
@isaacs87837 жыл бұрын
jlammetje They're trying to get to your mind see?
@DZrache6 жыл бұрын
Bank is just horrible to navigate whatever the time of day
@hakuzima42084 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 bank is a maze
@safe-keeper10424 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's where Rowling got the idea of stairs that went somewhere else on Fridays from.
@TheManLab73 жыл бұрын
I think everyone who uses that station knows this and it's only by watching this video. It definitely makes sense as I like yourself, always got lots trying to retrace my steps. As it's always quicker in the morning, that leaving in the evening. It really wound me up and I could never understand why? 🤷🏻♂️ But now I know 👍🏻 That quote is so innocent, but so true. If it came to the choice of my dying so others could survive (via an instant, quick, painless death (bullet to the brain)), then so be it. I'd take up food, supplies, space, medicine, clothing and I'm unable to do any labor, due to motorbike accident. This comment went for a bit if a turn for the worst 🤣🤦🏻♂️
@gavmungus8244 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the shocks I used to get when I went from "Occasional Visitor" to London to "Resident"; When you wander around on the surface and realize how bloody close some of the stations are!
@interstellarlunar45972 жыл бұрын
As a London commuter, mind giving me any insider advice, I literally only follow Google's advice
@Sir_Jimmothy2 жыл бұрын
@@interstellarlunar4597 Just check the above ground maps and turn off everything except tube / rail stations. You can just compare walking / bus times there with the TfL journey planner.
@notgadot6 ай бұрын
*realiSe
@antonydandrea8 жыл бұрын
don't tell everyone the secret at King's Cross
@malicahamilton5 жыл бұрын
ElliotGaming Muggles don’t need to know
@BossySwan5 жыл бұрын
I'm straight, but Shhh
@Anisometry5 жыл бұрын
Twiglet straight as a roundabout
@taylorh.34845 жыл бұрын
Antony D'Andrea Spoiler Alert: It’s Gate 9 3/4!
@unseen2894 жыл бұрын
@Xyre154 underrated comment
@JohnWiIkesBooth4 жыл бұрын
“I even had enough time at Paddington Station, to get a cup of tea!” *British: 100*
@honestabe51534 жыл бұрын
I hate you
@hectoralejandrotorrespopoc92324 жыл бұрын
XD
@psammiad4 жыл бұрын
Except he's Australian, of course.
@yungboomer64674 жыл бұрын
psammiad ...
@dargtagnan36964 жыл бұрын
@@psammiad so... half-british
@KhanggiTanka9 жыл бұрын
so not minding the gap iIS the quickest way to the hospital
@djtoomuch2309 жыл бұрын
+Spikey Husky I guess yeah.
@TheGreatOldOak9 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Vatcher You could say it is as quick as the train.
@saqibmudabbar8 жыл бұрын
Or the morgue
@airplaneplustrainguy81437 жыл бұрын
Or Funeral House,Crematorium or Cementary
@KhanggiTanka6 жыл бұрын
I spell my Iis's the way I god damn want!!!!
@yafi24758 жыл бұрын
1:45 Matt was recording with Casio 100 MS
@FahimSleuth8 жыл бұрын
damnn
@willh33337 жыл бұрын
I really want that phone case now.
@Jbmz036 жыл бұрын
Mashrur Ahmed Yafi i
@thereal_abi51626 жыл бұрын
He is in 3098 while we are in 2018 XD
@OnTourWithGerrit5 жыл бұрын
@@thereal_abi5162 greetings from 2019 ;)
@HughJeffreys8 жыл бұрын
1:44 Why is there an Apple logo on that calculator?
@leifvejby80238 жыл бұрын
It is the new Apple iCalc, why? Want one?
@Ronakvevo7 жыл бұрын
It's a camera
@prosincr7 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jeffreys if a phone case for the iPhone
@BriteLiteTech5 жыл бұрын
It was a phone case that has a calculator design in the back
@mirageinthedesert54485 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jeffreys you're here
@bioLarzen4 жыл бұрын
Only in Britain will you hear a walk in the rain be called "a pleasant walk" - even if by an Australian :D
@MooKau_3 жыл бұрын
well nothing in britan is trying to kill you on that walk, unlike australia
@bioLarzen3 жыл бұрын
@@MooKau_ True :)
@mariusdesu16333 жыл бұрын
after few winter's and spring's months in Glasgow, London weather is always seem pleasant.
@bigmanmark43343 жыл бұрын
@@MooKau_ have you been to Blackpool??
@MrBizteck3 жыл бұрын
@@mariusdesu1633 yes as an Irishman I do appreciate warm rain.
@IneptOrange7 жыл бұрын
You just made the underground 700,000 people slower.
@vangelicest41835 жыл бұрын
1.6 million now. Sorry mate. Glad I don't live there.
@tanzimi55185 жыл бұрын
Vangelicest 2 years ago
@eddiemate5 жыл бұрын
Tanzim Ifas They said "now" in their comment.
@bonnyp37744 жыл бұрын
2.3 million now
@TainaElisabeth4 жыл бұрын
maybe 5% of the people watching actually live in london
@treespunk3 жыл бұрын
I got to go to London back in 2007 and I was given an Underground pass for every day I was there. For someone completely unfamiliar with London, the Underground is a SAVIOR
@paulbottomley4210 жыл бұрын
There was once a board game called The London Game. It involved trying to get to six (or whatever number you picked, really) stations on the Central London Underground. You did this by rolling dice and picking up chance cards. Everyone dreaded being seized by a compulsion to visit Kensal Green for two turns. Ahem... Anyway, it played out on a map of the London Undergound, a map which is now forever burned into my memory. It means I have a truly in-depth knowledge of finding my way around below ground in London, but absolutely no idea what I'm doing above ground. It took me long enough to work out that Charing Cross and Embankment are literally right next to each other and that anyone who goes from one to the other by train is an idiot. :) Now I find out that even the signs lie to me?! D:
@jamesmayer449810 жыл бұрын
I used to play that game all the time! The London Underground map was engraved into my mind by the age of 3 haha!
@ianmoseley99105 жыл бұрын
Of course Embankment has been Charing Cross, Charing Cross (Embankment) and Embankment (Charing Cross), so even the station is confused!
@vikingfortiesfaeroes4 жыл бұрын
@Max Ambient Indeed, The Getaway on PS2 taught me how various areas of London (which I knew in a fragmented way from going everywhere on the Underground) are connected above ground
@forestreee4 жыл бұрын
Allright this game sounds fun. I wanna try it.
@kob34263 жыл бұрын
I feel like I might be the odd one out. But I'm 16 and that game is engraved in my head. All you guys talking about how it's so old.
@LouiseFranksArt3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound like a big problem, but for people who have limited mobility, like myself, that is a HUGE issue when you get re-routed on long route. It's happened a lot to keep people socially distant during Covid and I can honestly say its made it a nightmare getting out, because I know that instead of having to walk say 20m, I'll have to walk 200m instead. It's hugely disempowering to have to use a wheelchair or get train/airport staff to get you a wheelchair and push you around because walking routes have changed and suddenly they're now unmanageable.
@dominateeye Жыл бұрын
Public space designers should look into putting blue accessibility symbols next to the signage for the permanent, shorter, but un-labeled or mislabeled routes, so those who need them can know they're shorter, but people who aren't disabled might think they're slightly longer but easier-to-traverse ways of getting to the same location (a la wheelchair ramps that double back on themselves).
@johnmcdonough955Ай бұрын
Fair point. London wants to change towards being more accessible; however it must be behind the best for mobility for a couple of reasons. Primarily because it is old and dense, alterations are very expensive. As a corollary it is a somewhat cruel and insular place. Historically and even today, it has something of the asylum about it.
@Repicheep223 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the town I live in. It's a tourist town, with most of the major attractions confined to a few major roads, which means most of the tourists stay confined to those roads and they are *always* congested as a result. Us locals, however, know all the shortcuts and side streets, as well as the massive network of interconnected parking lots that span virtually the entire city. There's an implicit agreement that we don't share these shortcuts with tourists, for fear that they clog up our nice, quiet side streets.
@jasonreed75222 жыл бұрын
Google maps may ruin that for you, if it detects a shortcut is has no problems with routing you through a residential neighborhood vs a main road even if its the same time prediction. And if your new to an area you don't have much choice but to trust the gps.
@vintprox2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonreed7522 yet to see a troublemaker that uses maps to such extent, let alone read instructions
@CinemaDemocratica Жыл бұрын
Never drive on 13th Street / US 441 when you're in Gainesville Florida. There is literally never any reason to spend one second on that street. Main and 6th are quicker to the east and 34th is quicker to the west.
@OinkBalloon Жыл бұрын
Is it in the UK?
@brandon38725 ай бұрын
I do the same in the most congested areas of London 😅 No Londoner will walk through Leicester Square or Picadilly if they can help it 😂
@JdarceyMCR Жыл бұрын
Not sure why all these years later this recommended but it just goes to show how good these two creators and communicators have been for years (thankfully camera tech caught up to them!).
@robertbrookes20003 жыл бұрын
"It's all about the greater good." "The greater good."
@Ironbuket3 жыл бұрын
You completely forgot about how staying in the tube system keeps you dry when it is raining.
@eyebelieve32 жыл бұрын
What about getting to and from stations?
@DomyTheMad4202 жыл бұрын
"when it is raining" so.... allways?
@BaldMancTwat2 жыл бұрын
@@eyebelieve3 Umbrella
@MostlyLoveOfMusic10 жыл бұрын
these guys are both quality individuals
@MostlyLoveOfMusic10 жыл бұрын
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@Orinslayer9 жыл бұрын
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@Dorumin6 жыл бұрын
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@hanawana5 жыл бұрын
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@Altoclarinets5 жыл бұрын
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@Andy-ko3zt8 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title I thought you are going to lie on the train rail.
@patrickhodson87158 жыл бұрын
+Wang Cian /watch?v=ldT2g2qDQNQ
@lereff13828 жыл бұрын
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@DaVince218 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sure, links to other KZfaq videos give you viruses. /s It actually just links to Tom Scott's video titled "Ambiguity".
@TheTransportExplorer8 жыл бұрын
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@halfofakebab16597 жыл бұрын
No you didn't.
@kyl2k5 жыл бұрын
There's also a shortcut on Tottenham Court Road to go the Central Line both East and Westbound, go to the No Entry Sign then turn right, and go down the stairs. There, no hassle
@WeAreDuology5 жыл бұрын
kyl -•- omg instead of walking through that long arse tunnel!
@et04745 жыл бұрын
Yh I noticed yesterday on my way back to north acton that there were two ways from Tottenham Court back to north acton that are quicker than taking the tube
@ianmoseley99105 жыл бұрын
Except for the people coming the other way that you now inconvenience. I hate people who are so arrogant and conceited as to ignore direction signs
@kyl2k5 жыл бұрын
@@ianmoseley9910 may I add that I never take the tube during rush hour so I don't know/experience this
@jw70735 жыл бұрын
At baker Street if you take an elscalator down towards the "northbound" bakerloo line, you end up being able to get to both north and south bound platforms, seeing as theyre (obviously) right next to each other. Following the signs to the southbound would take you round in a bit of a circle, not that much time wasted but if you know the trains pulling in this second it can make or break you catching it. I'm constantly late/cutting it fine whenever I use the tube so it helps.
@martinheath59475 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention London transport minutes on the train times where one "minute" on the display can sometimes be a wait of anywhere up to five or more.
@jayswarrow11964 жыл бұрын
What'll it be in New York minutes, half'an'hour?
@wulfherecyning12824 жыл бұрын
@@jayswarrow1196 Closer to Windows XP minutes, 1 minute equals 36 hours.
@michelsfeir11274 жыл бұрын
Martin Heath When talking about real numbers it is impossible to get more vague than "up to 5 minutes or more" - could be literally any number!
@WildBluntHickok4 жыл бұрын
@@michelsfeir1127 At least it's not "any amount of minutes except 5". That would leave you working out scenarios in your head. "How is that the only time they're sure it WON'T come?"
@Markus-8Muireg4 жыл бұрын
That's common in many places
@DA-bm2mj7 жыл бұрын
if this video was titled "the King's Cross station's secret nobody's gonna tell you", it would get much more views
@salhj1125 жыл бұрын
Get even more by adding "dirty" before secret, especially since it's a train station.
@RagbagMcShag5 жыл бұрын
but then it wouldnt be a secret
@chunkylefunga4 жыл бұрын
Nah that's for yank twats. Brits keep it real
@AnnabelleJARankin4 жыл бұрын
Dias Amreé 'many more', even
@dutchy7774 жыл бұрын
agreed, the video is misleading in its title, there are no lies here
@akaken237 ай бұрын
Back visiting some of my fave's while Tom takes a well earned break.
@EmergencyChannel7 жыл бұрын
"What's a train?" - Midwestern American.
@josephkoester32173 жыл бұрын
We have trains, but they are mostly for freight.
@nikolairostov33263 жыл бұрын
“What’s a train?” - Pacific Islander
@Foebane7210 жыл бұрын
I've just been to London for four days and sometimes going for a pleasant leisurely walk at ground level is better than the endless stairs, escalators, tunnels, barriers, platforms and busy trains of the Underground - but it IS still convenient when you're in a hurry.
@rhphoenix52 жыл бұрын
Today i realised that the collab I had wanted for so long was actually already out 9 years ago
@MrKeepItTrill4 жыл бұрын
I thought everyone knew the fast way to get in/out of the Victoria line at Kings Cross. Nobody I’ve ever travelled with tried to enter the gates in the main ticket hall - it’s much faster to walk past the Starbucks and enter the gates at the second, smaller ticket hall. But yes for anyone visiting London this really does save as much time as they claim.
@LyricalWax11 жыл бұрын
For short journeys, ALWAYS check a street map before commencing the journey, that's common sense really. Where it makes sense to use the longer tube journey instead, is when you simply need to go from one station to another to carry on your journey. Exiting, walking and then re-entering the network would cost you more (2 singles). However I do agree that the labyrinthine Escherian nightmare that is Bank/Monument station is infuriating. I always take the shortcuts.
@CinemaDemocratica Жыл бұрын
I've only ever seen one really nicely done above-ground map of London that had the tube lines and stations overlain onto it. but it really was glorious. I wish I remembered anything about branding or where I'd gotten it.
@SuspiciousFish144 Жыл бұрын
Ever thought about the transit overlay in Google Maps and such?
@jeffd659 жыл бұрын
Jamie Oliver spotted at 2:05
@magnushmann9 жыл бұрын
Jeff D Not really...
@TR9trainspotting9 жыл бұрын
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@lolz240008 жыл бұрын
omfg
@PlugN2 жыл бұрын
There were some works at the Euston station today, and the TFL sort of had to unveil a secret route between the Underground and the National Rail station. If you follow the National Rail signs, you usually have to get on serval escalators, then exit on the street, go on your left and enter the right entrance of the Euston National Rail station and walk towards the middle of it to see the big timetable signs. Turns out there is a much faster way to get there: just follow the Overground signs after having checked out the underground (it’s directly on your left) and it uses ramps instead of escalators. When you come at the checkin point for the Overground, turn around and continue going up as if you were exiting the Overground. You’ll end up straight in the middle of Euston Station, right under the big timetable signs (perfect spot to quickly reach your train)! 🤯
@Brakvash8 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for angry Londoners.
@beyondbeyond19656 жыл бұрын
And you found confused Americans
@angelikazavadska61175 жыл бұрын
We know that sometimes it takes 1 or sometimes 4 minutes to walk down corridors. Its so planned to avoid people crush/people crowd pushing commuters off platforms onto the rails.
@julieling12124 жыл бұрын
I am angry whith the underground not give me back my money back 2240 on a bank card as I dint use my oyster card
@DoctorX173 жыл бұрын
It's 2020 and seeing so many people crammed into one place with no masks feels so strange now
@joiskyhigh3 жыл бұрын
Oh god same. I even mildly recoiled watching everyone touch the escalator handrail with their bare hands. I used to do it every day on my commute without even thinking about it, and now the idea seems as bizarrely gross as licking the damn thing. I really hope we unlearn this stuff when it's no longer life-or-death.
@DoctorX173 жыл бұрын
@@joiskyhigh I've always done my best not to touch rails and stuff in public... Though that was just because I'm mildly germaphobic. But now the idea of being in a crowded area is terrifying
@wiseman09783 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorX17 why u terrified of a virus that isn't dangerousz the news manipulate it to be, go live Ur life....
@worra1233 жыл бұрын
Its 2021 and it still does
@aidancoutts23413 жыл бұрын
Haha I live in the ACT (in australia) its honestly business as usual. Then you watch something from Europe or the USA and everyone is publicly shaming for what used to be normal behaviour. The contrast is absolutely amazing. We have night clubs and packed trains. People with masks are an extreme minority. Turns out if you listen to your scientists instead of the idiotic business owners who cant think 2 days past their latest financial decision, the virus gets beaten and everyone gets to go back to work. Listen to the smart people when they tell you something bad will happen. They have education and expertise you lack.
@jukka-pekkatuominen454010 жыл бұрын
It's quite normal in any traffic intructions. The route you are shown might not be the fastests one. But it is probably the one route that has the widest road. So people are pushed to use that one (instead of just cramming them all to the narrow roads).
@BaldMancTwat2 жыл бұрын
Now that makes me wonder if Google Maps does this for directions. Maybe if 1000 people are using Google Maps at once in a big city, and the "quickest" route would have them all intercept, it would make it slower, since the traffic would build up, so I wonder if Google Maps would send half the people a different "longer" way to avoid that.
@adama-k27104 жыл бұрын
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" *Corbyn intensifies*
@Kaifkahn4 жыл бұрын
Adam A-K SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION
@wierdalien14 жыл бұрын
@@ThePostalGril and you know what. You would be dead without red.
@ThePostalGril4 жыл бұрын
@@wierdalien1 liar, it's red that wants to kill us
@wierdalien14 жыл бұрын
@@ThePostalGril you are Irish i take it? The Irish Famine was caused by right wing policies. The troubles were right wing policies. Free healthcare is a left wing ideal. Pensions, the dole, everything that makes human life worth living, is left wing ideals. True scarlet red is bad, but so is sky blue.
@coltonsupergame4 жыл бұрын
Alistair Shaw Says the guy who probably doesn’t have a job, and or, works a low paying job, and wants free benefits because “rich people don’t deserve money, not like they earned it or anything”.
@chrishowlett59162 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew that Kings Cross trick. I've never missed my train, but I've cut it SO close on more than one occasion and that trick would have removed more stress than I can put it words. Thanks for the tip Tom!
@eugenielegrand85903 жыл бұрын
I've been watching far too many Tom Scott videos this past few days. But between the red shirt, the occasional comment about TNG, the reference to Mirror-Mirror in another video, and now the need of the many quote, I think I can confirm Tom Scott likes Star Trek, and for some reason, it makes me very happy.
@unspeci88526 жыл бұрын
Now, of course, because you uploaded this, they'll have to rework all the signs.
@veryboringname.4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the days before image stabilisation in phone cameras.
@TheChaosFactory18 жыл бұрын
"Lies on the London Underground" That's so fucking poetic. (I don't know why)
@ThoolooExpress3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people from other cities love to hate on the New York subway map, but one of the nicest things is that while it definitely isn't to scale, it makes it really easy to evaluate whether you'd be better off walking or taking the train, and also deciding whether it's worth walking farther in order to get on the line you actually want and avoid transfers.
@kwlkid852 жыл бұрын
Yes but it's still a terrible map for actually catching trains
@tezinho81 Жыл бұрын
Having a city designed in large parts on a modern grid also makes the correlation between overground and underground (and L trains) even easier. London streets rarely run in a straight line for long, if at all.
@sattfield11 жыл бұрын
And always rememeber: never ask a starfish for directions.
@ninjaqueen16828 жыл бұрын
I swear I saw Jamie Oliver when you went done the escalators
@jordan30120008 жыл бұрын
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@konstantinjovanovski27548 жыл бұрын
2:04
@jonoharris3338 жыл бұрын
2:04 yeah totally!
@simmerocky23938 жыл бұрын
Ninja Queen nah not him.
@edantrobus32538 жыл бұрын
Its the actor out of the mentaliat
@Gwailo545 жыл бұрын
You missed the biggest lie of all. "There is a good service on the Central Line" sas one waits for the Hainault train while there is a stream of trains to Epping, Debden, Epping, Loughton, Epping, Debden, Newbury Park, Epping, Debden ... How I don't miss commuting now I'm retired.
@TheSniper97524 жыл бұрын
Gwailo54, Oh my god this is such a nuisance for me, luckily I only need to go to Newbury, however the amount of times I see: Epping, Epping, Debden Is frankly shocking.
@Gwailo544 жыл бұрын
@@TheSniper9752 you forgot to add in the Loughton trains as well! I'm glad it's not just me who felt frustrated by the "good service", though we all know TfL will deny the bunching up of services on one branch (the Epping one usually). They lie as regularly as politicians.
@CsQ_RandomRepository6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: There is a similar lie in Seoul, Korea, although there is no reason behind it other than the construction changes made in Line 4. The lie is Sinyongsan (Line 4) to Yongsan (Line 1). The metro takes 15~20 minutes with one transfer, while you can just walk a breezy 150m out from Sinyongsan to Yongsan.
@TheImmyBird5 жыл бұрын
At tottenham court road when you get off a southbound northen line train and you need to get to the central line, the signs point to a route from the middle of that platform, up and escalator and along a ridiculously long tunnel. If you get off the back of the train though and use the exit right there it's about half the distance and you come out at the quiet end of the platform 😉
@QuorkQTar9 жыл бұрын
+1 for the Star Trek reference =D
@michaeljirava84043 жыл бұрын
I can imagine Geoff Marshall would be so excited to collaborate on this video, as he's probably the biggest fan of the Tube and trains in general.
@DanielVidz8 жыл бұрын
Is that Jamie Oliver? 2:04
@ethmo58078 жыл бұрын
+DanielVidz i thought exactly the same thing
@themaskebmw8 жыл бұрын
+DanielVidz Looks like Simon Baker to me ;D
@alisonlee33148 жыл бұрын
Bloody looked like him!
@jacksainthill89748 жыл бұрын
+DanielVidz Oliver's an idiot anyway, whether that's him or not.
@DanielVidz8 жыл бұрын
Haha well I'm glad to see I wasn't the only person who thought it xD
@cdavid22004 жыл бұрын
Also Queensway and Bayswater stations are on the same road but the tube map makes it look like you have to take the tube through Nottinghill gate
@OriginalGrasshopper5 жыл бұрын
NPR did one like this on the New York subway system a few years ago with the same results! They had one person use the subway, one take a taxi and one walk to the same locations and every single time the person walking got there way ahead of the subway or the taxi.
@georgef5518 жыл бұрын
The MBTA (Boston, MA) is the same way. You can get anywhere it can go faster by walking.
@vukashin887 жыл бұрын
georgef551 Boston has a half-assed subway with an unreliable tram line on top of it. New York, Paris, Moscow and London, on the other hand, have real subways.
@SteelJM16 жыл бұрын
So you're saying I could walk from Watertown to Back Bay faster than the T? Not buyin it sir. It's certainly not perfect but a fuckload better than what we have out here in the west. Which is nothing.
@MattMcIrvin4 жыл бұрын
@@SteelJM1 The MBTA would be fine if the state government didn't keep starving it of funds for maintenance and equipment. You wouldn't reasonably use it to travel between stops in the downtown core (the various tendrils of State Street Station are connected by walks longer than some entire journeys), but that's true of short trips in New York as well. Design-wise, the main issue with it is that the whole system is so intensely radial (the system map is called the "spider map" for a reason). It's great for traveling in and out of the core, not so much for circumferential trips. There are some weird phenomena: the current map doesn't at all show that the B, C and D branches of the Green Line converge within a couple of blocks of one another around Cleveland Circle. There was an older version that actually did.
@Thomas8289 жыл бұрын
Great Scott! I lived in London for twenty years, used the tube all the time and I never knew any of this! It seems Bayswater and Queensway aren't the only two stations that are closer than they appear on the map.
@felix56p3 жыл бұрын
0:03 lmao look at the old woman's face
@Clivestravelandtrains3 жыл бұрын
Interesting film, thanks. Living in Scotland I usually only pass through London when on my way somewhere else. I can walk from Euston to Waterloo, Liverpool Street, Paddington, Marylebone plus of course Kings Cross and St Pancras being just up the road. Good exercise after over 4 hours on a train, plus you get to see a bit of London. I think Euston to Waterloo is about 40 minutes on foot, but I always leave plenty of time. It beats me why Londoners are always running everywhere! Liverpool Street is a bit of a challenge as I invariably get lost in the Broadgate Centre. If I miss a train, there's usually another in half an hour which is no big deal. It's years since I went on the Underground.
@thursoberwick19483 жыл бұрын
I live in Scotland too. Totally agree. I just walk most of it. The best part is that Londoners don't understand that I can go without visiting their city for years. I have even spent most of a decade away from it. I don't think I visited there once between 1998 and 2012 or so. I spent more time in the USA, the Netherlands, the Middle East and Germany than I ever did there in that period. As far as I'm concerned it's another country... With too much power over the rest of the UK.
@Ben31337l8 жыл бұрын
I found a bigger lie on London underground, It involves traveling to bounds green on the Piccadilly line, then traveling to moorgate, , normally there's no advertised route directly between them, but taking the great northern train from Bowes park (less than a minute walk from bounds green) to moorgate would actually save a lot of time.
@fetchstixRHD5 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that travelling that way is actually cheaper off-peak than using the Underground (provided you don't use Tube services to carry on your journey!). They do have the “London Rail/Tube Services” map, but I think TFL have wanted for quite some time to get their hands on the Moorgate Suburban services (if they do then hopefully they’ll clean up those filthy Northern City Line stations!)
@FEATUREME5 жыл бұрын
@@fetchstixRHD It was previously owned LT (pre-TFL) and was the northern line but was put into national rail ownership
@mikehocksbig61294 жыл бұрын
KZfaq’s recommended brings us all together again
@lemqnshark Жыл бұрын
this looks like today tom scott built a time machine and went back to this video
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I live in the Czech republic, about 70 kilometers to the south-east of Prague. But due to my job, I spend almost more or less half of month in our capital. It is our only one city with subway (locally known as "Metro"). Its web is very simple (only three lines, building of the fourth recently began). But there are also buses and trams in service. In center (determined more of less by places named below), it is not surprise that you may reach some places faster when you walk on foot than in case of using of city mass transit. And if it is not faster, then it is (at least) more comfortable. - Main train station (also known as Wilson's one) - Central bus station Florenc (and very near Masaryk's train station) - bottom part of Václavské náměstí - southern part of Karlovo náměstí (there is main part of "Všeobecná fakultní nemocnice" - VFN) - náměstí I.P.Pavlova (known mostly as only I.P.Pavlova) 1. example: from VFN to I.P.Pavlova: walk time: about 10-15 minutes reasons: bus interval, tram stop distance, trams interval (not all trams go to I.P.Pavlova) 2. example: from main train station to Masaryk's train station walk time: about 10-15 minutes reasons: no direct connection, city mass transit intervals, city mass transit lines exchange time 3. example: from main train station to central part of Václavské náměstí walk time: 5-10 minutes reasons: no direct connection, city mass transit lines exchange time
@sophieward72259 жыл бұрын
I just read Matt's book. It blew my mind and was hilarious, I must recommend!
@niclouds52928 жыл бұрын
+M.W. Vaughn What is it titled?
@keroia8 жыл бұрын
+Ni Clouds Things to Make and Do in the Fourth Dimension
@stevethewolf5626 жыл бұрын
I'm reading it right now! Love it.
@Jonestime15 жыл бұрын
2:03 “the problem is, if...” 1.7 million views later 😊
@mezzofloat4 жыл бұрын
I like how Tom's voice is left-panned and Matt's is right-panned. Nice touch!
@Jindujun5 жыл бұрын
I knew it, going for a walk is sometimes easier than taking the tube and it's less crowded.
@arivanilla2 жыл бұрын
My problem is the exit. The one time I didn't follow the exit sign to exit, I was literally trapped and couldn't find my way out
@coasteringkid7 жыл бұрын
You guys need to do a video together again
@vlogerhood7 жыл бұрын
You just watched...never mind
@AgentAGent0077 жыл бұрын
I wish they had both tube map and rail maps overlaid on the standard map of london
@ilovemusicverymuch15 жыл бұрын
They do it's available online and in leaflets at big stations
@TheTomTomsMusic8 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie... when I saw Matt Parker in this video I had a bit of a geek out moment.
@daemonCaptrix8 жыл бұрын
In Britain, "Matt" is spelled "Matts".
@LikuidNinja8 жыл бұрын
What has been seen cannot be unseen. x)
@jacobmortimore8 жыл бұрын
I dont get it...
@stache16258 жыл бұрын
+Redshot 62 In Britain, the school subject math is called maths.
@daemonCaptrix8 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you for explaining the joke. The joke is funnier if you've ever listened to Matt Parker complain about the American spelling "Math".
@markmayonnaise11638 жыл бұрын
+British-Aussie Lover *they're maths. Hey, if it's a plural, you have to use plural pronouns, conjugations, and agreements!
@williamevans94264 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I also wonder whether, when using the Tube, I'm actually walking most of the way to my destination. My particular hate is the curving pedestrian tunnel, ending in a sharp turn that immediately leads to yet another seemingly endless tunnel to walk.
@Gwailo544 жыл бұрын
You should try some connections in Paris. Some of them feel like they go on for hours!
@notthere834 жыл бұрын
Ah, I thought this was about how minutes on underground displays are different from real minutes. ;)
@benawells4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, KZfaq. You've done it again. 6 years without knowing this video existed then BANG, here it is.
@fenris914 жыл бұрын
It’s a wonder that Paddington Bear made it out of there in one piece!
@Guitar-Dog9 жыл бұрын
Simon baker as Patrick Jane at 2:04
@et04745 жыл бұрын
"Jane!"
@joey45924 жыл бұрын
There's no business like Cho business
@darthollie2 жыл бұрын
0:34 WAIT WAIT WAIT. YOU CAN JUST TAP YOUR WALLET ON IT??????????
@phyllidahurst44902 жыл бұрын
I love how I just missed my train and then yt recommends this.
@davidmillar-haskell88635 жыл бұрын
Takes me back. I used to commute to the City coming in to Paddington. I would walk to Lancaster gate to get the Central Line to the Bank.
@HeliosExeunt4 жыл бұрын
I can relate; I was there 2 months ago. The other thing to note is that Lancaster Gate isn't steps-free, so if you were going to King's Cross or Heathrow, it's still safer to lug your bags for fifteen minutes to Paddington instead of risking a nasty accident down the steps at Lancaster Gate.
@Michelle_Schu-blacka7 жыл бұрын
Stuff that REAL Londoners already know!!!
@Deathnotefan975 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Dallas/Fort Worth Airport here in Texas There is a second, smaller security line that almost nobody knows about, and even during the busy times, when the lines can easily reach an hour wait (and this isn't even counting holiday traffic), the secondary line takes 15-20 minutes tops One time I went to it and there were literally only 3 people in front of me in line
@iamspamus87845 жыл бұрын
We did this going from Leicester Square to Picadilly for a few times until I just looked down the street and we walked the 2 blocks...
@mwilson642410 жыл бұрын
Looks like Jamie Oliver @2:06 going up the escalator.
@dealerovski829 жыл бұрын
thats what I thought aswel
@Crlarl8 жыл бұрын
2:13 "...Or the one."
@footballoldboy48182 жыл бұрын
Yep. If you arrive in Paddington, always walk to the Central Line
@CinemaDemocratica Жыл бұрын
Bill Bryson did a bit about this in his incomparable book, "Notes From a Small Island." His example was Bank Street and Mansion House, which you can literally see down a wide pavement from each other above ground, but which takes three stops and a transfer to get between if you believe the map.
@isaz5975 жыл бұрын
Generally in Central London I just walk between stations it's so much easier. Saves getting onto multiple trains
@TheSniper97524 жыл бұрын
It honestly is. Never take the circle from South to north and vice versa, it is almost always quicker(and more pleasant) than the Circle line.
@JamesPTaggart9 жыл бұрын
OMG if I knew that Kings Crossing short cut I wouldn't have had to spent the night in Starbucks to get a train the next morning back to Leeds. 'Need of the few' only saw one drug deal go down that night and didn't get to see more on UK while on that side of the pond for work.
@anghinetti6 жыл бұрын
Jason McCrory: On what line is Kings Crossing?
@MattDavis_BeechingsGhosts2 жыл бұрын
I used to work right opposite Paddington station and commuted from Buckhurst Hill directly to Lancaster Gate.
@ajs41 Жыл бұрын
Now you might be able to take the Elizabeth Line to Stratford if you were still doing that route.
@MattDavis_BeechingsGhosts Жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 it would certainly be quicker, but peeling commuters off their seats is challenging at the best of times
@SRMkay4 жыл бұрын
Computerphile and Numberphile, together at last
@HighestRank10 жыл бұрын
People in larger cities walk faster. Don't ask why, the answer is underground.
@RobertBuchanTerrey10 жыл бұрын
It's because they are younger (recent findings... Always look at demographics...)
@MaryamShakiba9 жыл бұрын
Great video! By the way it's just "London Underground" not "the London Underground" :) (Ex LU employee! We were told never to add 'the' in official documents)
@SaItogaming2022 жыл бұрын
i like how the video is titles lies of the london underground and the thumbnail has a sign saying way out as if the sign is lying and theres no way out
@MarkPMus2 жыл бұрын
“Change trains at Bank” is the biggest swizz ever. It’s euphemism for, “Walk halfway across London.” 😂😂
@luluange1234 жыл бұрын
Why is this in my recommended 6 years later 🤔🤔
@gamermapper4 жыл бұрын
Because it's a good video
@williamchamberlain22636 жыл бұрын
1:18 _nothing_ explains Kings Cross
@AvailableUsernameTed9 жыл бұрын
A border agent showed me one of these short cuts at LAX. Going outside the airport building saved tons of time when making a connection. In Toronto I once bypassed customs (accidentally) by doing the same thing.
@jasonreed75222 жыл бұрын
Honestly thats on customs for having it be possible to accidentally or intentionally bypass them. I understand the airport having secret passages so that way staff and emergency services can get places faster/easier. But you shouldn't have an unguarded hallway/door to walk around customs.
@TheArkamedBat2 жыл бұрын
At KGX, the signs for Trains are like that because it is without getting out of the station.
@daniellbondad66708 жыл бұрын
Isn't the Piccadilly line at King's Cross station,the one that had a box-sized fire grow into an inferno in just a few seconds?
@kinghani8 жыл бұрын
Yep. Massively redesigned since then, though.
@buddyclem73287 жыл бұрын
Daniell Bondad According to a documentary, the fire was caused by a cigarette lighting grease and trash built up under wooden escalators, made worse by the ventilation system fanning the flames, and no fire suppression system. All of those problems have been fixed.
@anghinetti6 жыл бұрын
Daniell Bondad: 1987 - thirty-one died.
@BloodDerg6 жыл бұрын
The London Underground was my favorite part of London, in the 4 days I was there. Really easy to understand the system, and not confusing. I wish it would be like that everywhere in the world, it would make everything so much easier.
@MammaApa5 жыл бұрын
I was there for a month and rode the tube exactly once. Navigating a new city by foot, bus and elevated train gives you a much better picture of where the heck you actually are.
@ellen-fs3pl4 жыл бұрын
The ‘I’m sorry’ at the start
@Ra1d_danois Жыл бұрын
2:04 Is that Jamie Oliver on the left?
@BenjaminWhitewayWilkinson9 жыл бұрын
These are not lies just ensuring the safety of customers! If you want the shortest route ask the staff, we nearly always give the easiest/shortest routes. But some changes cost more, bayswater to quewnsway will save you time but would be charged as 2 journey's on oyster PAYG. But there are lots of "cheats" to getting around on the tube, speak to staff and they may give you the 'inside' scoop!
@ReeceJamesTM9 жыл бұрын
like walking through the tunnel and going out the secret exit in there?
@TagcastCrew9 жыл бұрын
***** That's Called Tunnel Hacking, Which is Illeagal
@ReeceJamesTM9 жыл бұрын
TagcastCrew er ok
@joakim2k109 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Whiteway-Wilkinson White lies are lies too.
@BenjaminWhitewayWilkinson9 жыл бұрын
***** you're absolutely right, but some people don't like changing trains, also some routes are a lot quicker with an overland change (district to central is a quicker change from Cannon St to Bank (its straight up Wallbrook) than changing inside the Bank/Monument Complex) and if you read my comment this is what i am trying to say, as staff we try to give you the best information, but this does fall on deaf ears some times. however if you stop and talk (and we have the time so not really during the rush hour!!) most (but not necessarily all :() staff will be happy to pass on tricks we have learnt that will speed up your journeys.