Lies to unlearn about skincare

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leena norms

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Retinol, vitamin C, anti-aging cream, to spf or not to spf? What factor? Should you be exfoliating? How often? Eye cream? Face masks? Is it possible to shrink your pores? Do you have fossil fuels on your face? Are you panicking? I am!
00:00 intro
02:36 cleanse, detox, exfoliate?
06:11 spf is for white people?
10:17 shrink your pores?
11:13 science in your skincare?
19:20 stopping aging?
23:36 fossil fuel face?
25:34 my routine & final thoughts
Suggested further reading!
Clean: The New Science of Skin by James Hamblin
The Scam Of Skincare & And Opting Out Of Toxic Beauty Culture • The Scam Of Skincare &...
Skin Care: Is Anti-Aging a Scam? gimletmedia.com/shows/science...
Products I use:
Bliss Bar™ Gentle Solid Face Cleanser from Ethique (if you're in the UK you can get this at Holland & Barrett)
Superdrug Solait Anti-Ageing Sensitive Face Sun Cream SPF 50
Sukin Organic Rose Hip Oil
Other sources:
Your amazing regenerating body | New Scientist www.newscientist.com/article/...
5 skin health myths to stop believing now | Body Stuff with Dr. Jen Gunter • 5 skin health myths to...
Retinoids work, wipes don’t: 21 things I’ve learned about skin care | Skincare | The Guardian www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...
This is what the SPF number of your sun cream actually means www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/...
My Evidence-Based Skincare Routine www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/...
What those 'Dermatologist Recommended' and 'Clinically Proven' labels on your lotions and soap actually mean www.businessinsider.com/what-...
Retinoids work, wipes don’t: 21 things I’ve learned about skin care | Skincare | The Guardian www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...
You Have Fossil Fuels On Your Face jessicadefino.substack.com/p/...
The Age of Instagram Face | The New Yorker www.newyorker.com/culture/dec...
Millennials' Youth Obsession Is Stressing Them Out! | HuffPost Life www.huffpost.com/entry/millen...
Analysis of spin in the reporting of studies of topical treatments of photoaged skin pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29689...
Evidence for the Efficacy of Over-the-counter Vitamin A Cosmetic Products in the Improvement of Facial Skin Aging: A Systematic Review www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
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@shelbyschroder4140
@shelbyschroder4140 Ай бұрын
Ok, as a Medical Esthetician from the United States, I agree and hard disagree with a lot of things in this video. Big companies are making an excess of products, yes, But the "chemical" argument is very moralizing and tends to point people toward skincare that often isn't the best for them and can be quite irritating. Im not pro essential oil in skincare. We see in office how it does irrtate folks' skin because it is often concentrated. Another issue is with the demonizing of preservatives they aren't evil inherently. I also want to bring up the fact that they keep bacteria from growing in your products. You keep your skincare in your hot, moist bathrooms and not your fridge. Therefore, preservation is required. A lot of "natural" brands are guilty of this. And their products often have abysmal shelf lives. You are better off buying a basic moisturizer that you like in bulk that has a better shelf life that you can use on your face and your body. The appeal to nature fallacy does actually run rampant in the low waste community, and it isn't helpful. When people say "chemicals," they mean things like glycolic and Salycilic acid. AHAs and BHAs, respectively. Also, those chemicals can be considered a retinol as well. Glycolic acid is often used in moisturizers targeted for extreme skin dryness because it's not just an acid. it's a sugar based molecule, so it acts as a humectant, drawing water below the stratum corneum Salycilic acid is great for people with acne. Because it's great at killing the bacteria. Salycilic acid, by the way, is willowbark extract... same as asprin. Her explanations of what a pimple is was a but vague because it's a clogged follicle that has become inflamed and yes can get infected. We have things like those "chemicals" to treat it. On the petrochemical front. Yes, there is a presence of them because those byproducts have been shown to be helpful. If you have spoken to anyone with a skin condition that causes extreme dryness or has been on high dosages of accutane, they will tell you things like aquaphore or vasiline made those trestments and conditions so much easier. Do i think there can be some formulations that have little or no petrochemicals? Absolutely, but there are just some forumlations that are just more effective with them. Love the sunscreen promotion. Just don't ever dip your toe into the diy sunscreens. They aren't actually sunscreens and will not protect you. Sunscreens are some of the hardest skincare products to formulate for stability and to protect you from skin cancer. Do I believe you need a 10-step skin routine? Nope. What people ultimately need are a cleanser, a moisturizer, and a sunscreen. Anything else is considered treatment and should be targeted to the skin concern. Yes, eyecreams are a scam. You can use the same moisturizer on your face. Do you want a retinol eyecream? Apply your retinol to your lower orbital socket only, then layer your moisturizer. As a professional in this industry, specifically on the medical side, there are just some factually inaccurate things said, and again, the naturalistic fallacy. Just because it came from a lab doesn't make it inherently evil. Sometimes, synthetics have been proven to be safer on the skin. We may take the natural thing and alter it to be safer. Your moms kitchen recipes for natural skincare aren't always going to guarantee that. I've watched Leena for a long time, I think she has some great views on things, but as someone whose profession is literally skincare. I literally treat people's acne for a living. Who does think the overconsumption problem has gotten out of hand. I am, however, always going to look to what the science says first. Because I've seen the nasty side of "clean beauty," which isn't regulated. There is no government that has actually sat down with a committee and said these are the laws around what clean beauty means. I hope Leena can consult some skincare professionals like dermatologists and Estheticians in the future a lot of us in this field do see the waste an excess problem in this industry but we want to do right by our patients first. Edit: spelling mistakes and grammar, I'm sick, thinking takes spoons.
@meremeth
@meremeth Ай бұрын
♥️ thankyou for your professional input! I have acne and rosacea, finding a skincare regimen that works for me has made such a big difference to my comfort and self esteem. When Ive talked to anti-chemical people about what I use on my skin I get a lot of judgement. One person told me to 'just stop using it, and your skin will get better' (this was about benzoyl peroxide for acne lol.. like telling someone to stop taking their medicine??)
@shelbyschroder4140
@shelbyschroder4140 Ай бұрын
@meremeth my professional input was written while I was very tired after looking at it the next morning. XD I'm glad you understood. Yes, I get the inherent distrust of this industry. Trust me, I have so many gripes with it myself, I've worked on many sides of it. It's terribly wasteful and often struggles to actually serve patients. But there are people like us who do cut through the bullshit and actually do give sane advice. I hate seeing how many people try a skincare product because it's trendy, or because Susan on tik tok claimed it would treat her hyperpigmentation. It's indicative of someone who has zero credentials, and it's harmful. I'm so glad your bpo is working for you. Seriously, your skin health comes first. Know your triggers too. And above all else be as close as reasonably possible as you can about sunscreen reapplication.
@nataliawewiorska1411
@nataliawewiorska1411 Ай бұрын
As a 30 years old woman I've been recently trying to look into both the science of things and 'what the people on the internet say' and I'm really interested in those science-informed, evidence based discussions. I also really love Lena and everything she does and also a bit sceptical about some things said in the video. I would really love a broader discussion on this, maybe with you, maybe with some other creators who have more experience / expertise in this field.
@floralspectre
@floralspectre Ай бұрын
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@floramarzin6511
@floramarzin6511 Ай бұрын
A really informative comment, thank you 🙏 it helps having insider knowledge on this industry I have dermatillomania and a small skincare regimen helps me redirect my stress and reduce my skinpicking. It also helps me avoid having inflamed skin and infections, in the event where i do pick at it :)
@anneofgreentables1908
@anneofgreentables1908 Ай бұрын
Reminds me of a Welcome to Night Vale tweet: “You have nice skin. It really holds in all your blood and organs - no leaking or nothing. You look great.”
@ericacousins9786
@ericacousins9786 Ай бұрын
to be fair there is SOME leaking but only what's required to sustain your biome yk
@sam4772
@sam4772 Ай бұрын
love this!! but also, not to be like a science fascist, i really hate when people say "chemicals are bad for you" when actually what they are referring to is a specific chemical reaction between your skin cells and a given product. it creates a lot of weird pseudo-anti-vax scepticism, i think. especially given that lab grown products are usually so much more trustworthy than natural alternatives because of the standardisation of concentrations, purities, etc
@borkbork4124
@borkbork4124 Ай бұрын
Yes! And not all of these “chemicals” are useless. Even if I dont pick at a pimple, I am ALWAYS left with a dark mark. I have to pamper my pimples and once they are gone trying to not have the hyperpigmentation
@aj7058
@aj7058 Ай бұрын
Your opening apology is funny considering its "chemicals are bad!!!" is the actual fascist take here.
@sam4772
@sam4772 Ай бұрын
@@aj7058 lol thanks im just so worried of being all "um akshually 🤓" you get me?
@Midnightconfessional
@Midnightconfessional Ай бұрын
Ok now I just need a leena video on every possible aspect of life
@leenanorms
@leenanorms Ай бұрын
Hahah working on it!
@cypriennezed5640
@cypriennezed5640 Ай бұрын
"I've worked really hard to like the way that I look, and if that keeps changing, do I have to do that work over again?" Omigoodness, I'm in my early 40s and this is all of everything right now ❤
@Jen-tn1un
@Jen-tn1un Ай бұрын
Yes, same. I am at the point when my adult kids are leaving home and I am left trying to figure out who I am as a person. I look in the mirror and I am not the 18-year-old I feel like inside. I have grey hair (under the dye)! And wrinkles! And my body is changing! And this is something that doesn't really get talked about!
@Acehigh-Jenkins
@Acehigh-Jenkins Ай бұрын
I think it’s a life long process of not fighting ourselves to shove ourselves into tiny fake boxes constructed by the media! Learning to accept ourselves and all the wonderful things our bodies can do even if sometimes there not quite doing what they used to (I have IBS and chronic pain).
@rebecca1575
@rebecca1575 Ай бұрын
I know "don't trust your eyes" was just an off-hand comment about how sun is always there, but I do actually think more people need to understand that our eyes cannot be trusted to judge brightness. Eyes perceive light on a logarithmic scale (of lux) - that means exponential differences in actual strength are a barely perceptible difference in brightness to the human eye (hence our great night vision). Just ask your house plants. Just because something looks like it gets enough light to you, it does not mean it's all that much light in the real world. And the opposite is true if you step outside. It's brighter than you think -> you can't judge how strong the sun is.
@paulinemoira8442
@paulinemoira8442 Ай бұрын
I find the "It's cloudy, I can't see the sun, it mustn't be there." quite funny. It's like people don't have object permanence. Clouds don't just shine in bright grey tones on their own, all the light that's coming from the sky is sunlight.
@sewme1468
@sewme1468 Ай бұрын
actually. do trust your eyes. if the sun was actually absent, it would be dark. Like at night ...
@miyounova
@miyounova Ай бұрын
That's why I like something we have in Australia, an online, in real time UV tracker available for anyone to see. It is really good to determine whether you need protection or not.
@katieweaver2856
@katieweaver2856 Ай бұрын
@@miyounova we in the US don’t have a real-time report but we do get the UV index with the weather apps. Something we should all be paying attention to!
@mushy470
@mushy470 Ай бұрын
Your weather app will tell you the UV index. I just don't apply it when it's less than 2 and I'm inside
@bes4497
@bes4497 Ай бұрын
I think it's worth noting that the big reason why so few cosmetic ingredients have published clinical trials proving their effectiveness is that cosmetic studies just aren't funded and selected for publishing in academia. Skincare, especially for cosmetic purposes (somewhat understandably) just isn't high up the academic funding and journal review committees' priority lists. So the studies that do exist have to be funded by the cosmetics companies themselves, which obviously leads to conflicts of interest. Plus the fact that companies usually don't publish the results of their research in peer-reviewed journals because they don't want their competitors to have that information. It doesn't mean that the research isn't being done, it's just not being shared. It doesn't automatically mean that an ingredient doesn't work and is a scam. It just means that academic clinical trials havent been funded. There are other ways that cosmetic scientists can fairly confidently predict that an ingredient will have a certain effect by using other types of research and preexisting knoweldge of chemistry and biology.
@jennivamp5
@jennivamp5 Ай бұрын
I think my fear of aging or at least my fear of looking older is the fear of not having achieved the things I had wanted to by the time I was 'this old'. Seeing the lines appearing on my face gives me such a feeling of existential dread because it's a reminder that my clock is running out and here I am feeling like I'm barely in my 20's without so many of the things I'm supposed to have done or achieved by the time I'm 'this old'.
@bethanydarby5615
@bethanydarby5615 Ай бұрын
I really relate to this.
@rachel250
@rachel250 Ай бұрын
yes I've noticed this too! I'm so afraid of growing out of things I wanted to do so I try to look younger.
@Jen-tn1un
@Jen-tn1un Ай бұрын
Yes!
@sorchanc129
@sorchanc129 Ай бұрын
YES!! THIS!
@melsidian
@melsidian Ай бұрын
Leena: Your skin naturally does all the steps for you! My Eczema Skin: I like your fancy words magic man, no idea what they mean though. Me: *drowning in ointment & medication*
@tadghcr2175
@tadghcr2175 Ай бұрын
Especially on SPF and sunscreen but also this topic in general, highly recommend Lab Muffin Beauty Science! Michelle has a PhD in chemistry and uses it for science communication about cosmetics and skincare. She's got several videos on sunscreen, myths, misinformation, etc. One piece of advice of hers missing from this video is we do need some amount of sun exposure for vitamin D. She follows her government's (Australia's) recommendation of using sun protection at or above a UV index of 3. Lots of weather apps help show you what the current UV is with the weather!
@borkbork4124
@borkbork4124 Ай бұрын
Ty, about to comment the same thing! Love her! Tldr the science answer is it depends. It is cloudy today, I am staying inside, and have my curtains open. No sunscreen due to the low risk and low benefit of wearing it today. I am also white-transparent so there are not many days where I can go with no sunscreen lol, so I am enjoying today
@hayl36
@hayl36 Ай бұрын
She also has a great video on retinol! She agrees that there aren’t many independent studies on its effectiveness (that aren’t funded by cosmetics companies) but concludes that from the wider body of research on retinoids, there’s a high likelihood that it DOES work at least to some extent.
@miyounova
@miyounova Ай бұрын
I'd say her early videos yes. Lately...she seems very pro-brands and sometimes gets quite snarky I find. Her more recent videos give me an uncomfortable feeling basically.
@thomasch7748
@thomasch7748 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Leena! ALSO on the topic of SPF - people as white as myself or you usually get skin damage and potentially sunburns after as little as 10-20 minutes of unprotected exposure (one hour is VERY optimistic ;D) So even a factor 30 is not gonna do very much for us on a day at the beach in Spain! Whoever is reading this: Get the 50, you’ll thank yourself at 50.
@MeldaRavaniel
@MeldaRavaniel Ай бұрын
And reapply basically every hour if you're out at the beach, especially if you're also getting in the water or sweating. I also just suck it up and wear cover-ups because sunburn sucks.
@hannahbradshaw2186
@hannahbradshaw2186 Ай бұрын
@@MeldaRavaniel yep, as an Aussie with very fair skin and red hair, I ditch makeup when I'm out in the sun so I can ensure I reapply properly. I'd rather be protected than look flawless haha! I also wear UPF sun protection sleeves that I can take on and off when going inside/outside to ensure my skin is covered and protected.
@annalizer1992
@annalizer1992 Ай бұрын
Yes, I work outside all day, and I wear a hat and spf 50 (I reapply any time I have break) and I also have a blistex SPF 50 for my lips, because my lips burn too. It's still hard not to burn occasionally when you sweat a lot. My boss also is really good about telling employees to wear sunscreen and makes sure to keep some SPF 50 around for people to use. I too am pale and factor 30 is simply not enough. Linen cover ups are also great for hikes when it's sunny, but a lot of them do let a little bit of sun through, so wear SPF under those too. I do get pimples from my sunscreen, so I am still on the hunt for an affordable sunscreen that is non-comedogenic. Still, I'd rather have a few pimples than skin cancer.
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716 Ай бұрын
I think what's quite scary for us middle-aged people is that the climate has changed so quickly not just in our lifetimes, but in even the past decade. I'm in the northern UK and I find myself having to adjust to the fact that a lot of old habits, built when we were a lot more optimistic about containing the greenhouse effect (which was the main term used when I was at school) aren't really equal to the strength of sunshine we encounter now, and it has to become a habit of mind to consider that it can be a high UV day even when it's overcast outside. I started using factor 50 a few years ago because I was on medication that made me hypersensitive to sunlight, and I've just never climbed back down - it costs the same anyway.
@itsyagirljessssss
@itsyagirljessssss Ай бұрын
Getting an Ulta ad before the video starts. Sounds about right.
@AmyMLevy
@AmyMLevy Ай бұрын
I'm 58 years old. My mom (who at 81 looks in her 50's) told me that if I never started with cosmetic products, I'd never need them. BEST ADVICE my mom ever gave me. I 've never had a makeup routine, saving it for very special occasions. I've never a "skin-care routine" other than washing in the shower with water (rarely even using soap). I've now been told by dermatologists that, even after significant weight loss, even after chemotherapy for bowel cancer, even after having a small basal cell carcinoma removed from my arm, I have the skin of someone 20 years younger. Their only advice was to be more liberal with sunscreen, as I am very pale with freckles. I might not be typical of your demographic, but I try not to miss any of your videos!
@pisto30
@pisto30 Ай бұрын
Same! I'm 46 and I've been told (despite still having some acne occasionally) I look like I'm in my 20s. My mom tried to get me into makeup but I just never got into it.
@grimnirnacht
@grimnirnacht Ай бұрын
Me too. Makeup is expensive aside from anything else. I was 27 before I started experimenting with it and I rapidly lost interest. Sunblock is the only every day wear
@medorakea7327
@medorakea7327 Ай бұрын
this has been my approach too! i scrape the dead skin off my face once a week when i shower & usually do a quick soap, but other than that, i literally don’t do anything and my skin is usually some of the nicest in the room. i don’t even think i’ve worn sunscreen in about a decade
@lostkittenxx
@lostkittenxx Ай бұрын
I hope you're doing great still! That's a lot to go through. I definetely agree (my mum is the same, never has been interested in "beautifying" herself) and her skin looks very good. A healthy diet and lots of water are essential as well. Only thing is that moisturizer and specific types of skin products are sometimes necessary for those whose skin is very impacted by their hormones/underlying health conditions. I personally need moisturizer and sunscreen as to not burn or dry out too much but otherwise I have found that less is more as well!
@ainhoaaparicio3729
@ainhoaaparicio3729 Ай бұрын
I'm 45 and my mom told me exactly the same. She herself abides by the same "doctrine". Can't complain about the results not to mention the time and money saved. Moisturizer from the pharmacy with incorporated sunscreen is the only skincare product I ever use.
@Al-ho1oo
@Al-ho1oo Ай бұрын
I really appreciate your effort to provide us an honest and informed opinion. But, as a person who has spent most of their years in dermatologist offices for my acne I have to disagree on quite a few points. Although you have mentioned that there are people who have particular conditions that require them to put on harsher products, you don’t have to have a condition like acne. Even before I had acne and now that I no longer have it exfoliation is crucial for me as I have oily skin. There are many people who have an oily skin (not a condition) and it is absolutely beneficial for them to exfoliate. Before I exfoliated I looked like a disco boll and had countless black heads. Tretinoin has been shown to work for anti aging and acne, there is countless evidence on the matter. I think it’s important to talk to dermatologists on these topics, they are doctors who are there to help, not to sell
@mossbaby6292
@mossbaby6292 Ай бұрын
I do think that retinol helps, I’ve seen a DRAMATIC impact on my skin. Honestly, because it’s had such a positive effect for me with my acne and skin texture, it’s allowed me to declutter a bunch of likely useless skincare and cut down on SO MUCH TIME spent infront of the mirror. Skin care is able to operate the way it does because it can create such a major insecurity, and that’s so heartbreaking
@rachel_sj
@rachel_sj Ай бұрын
Same here. Using a retinol made for sensitive skin (from PCA Skin, which I usually buy from my esthetician every 6-8 months) has made a massive difference in my skin (that, and a weekly sulfur mask I put on for 20 minutes on Sunday nights) that I’ve also gotten rid of a bunch of excessive products over the past few years…
@2morepages
@2morepages Ай бұрын
Do you have oily skin?
@jennifershay8980
@jennifershay8980 Ай бұрын
Yeah I've been using perscription adaplene (a form of retinol) for years. My acne has reduced considerably, my scars are lightening, and theoretically it should also keep my skin looking young. I've also recently started to include a lactid acid serum for the scars and dryness, but other then that I just use a cleanser, the adaplene, moisturizer, and spf.
@KushKiki
@KushKiki Ай бұрын
Yesss! The retinol and exfoliating definitely helps with the acne for me. I see a noticeable difference.
@RainyBlueSkies
@RainyBlueSkies Ай бұрын
important note about suncream! you have to *reapply every two hours*. even if it feels like there's still suncream on your body it doesn't matter. it's absorbed enough and skin has done general skin-things like producing oil, shedding cells etc that after 2 hours you're at risk again! (more often if you're sweating a lot or go swimming!)
@meremeth
@meremeth Ай бұрын
I think some of the information in this video is quite misleading. I wish you had collaborated with a dermatologist or cosmetic chemist on this video as you are talking about the treatment of skin conditions. It's had to separate cosmetics from drugs in skincare, as a lot of cosmetic ingredients can be used to treat skin conditions. And some ingredients classified as drugs can be used cosmetically. I also dont see why you find skincare being a large industry bad, when you enjoy makeup and fashion. Cosmetic skincare is what i use to make my face look nice instead of makeup. Theyre both.. cosmetics..
@axewalk
@axewalk Ай бұрын
She actually said she was NOT talking about skin conditions.
@rosey_ie
@rosey_ie Ай бұрын
@@axewalkWhich is a really disingenuous comment from her in fairness. Lots of us have skin issues which aren’t “medical grade” (I think that’s how she phrased it?) and are effectively treated with cosmetic-level skincare products. And even still, so many of those with medical grade skin conditions are also relying on OTC cosmetic because they can’t afford a derm! So why not be talking about us all, exactly??
@axewalk
@axewalk Ай бұрын
@@rosey_ie precisely because she's not an expert or medically trained. It would be irresponsible (and off brand) for her to be talking about research on medical conditions or any condition severe enough to require intervention. But you also seem to be in agreement with her. Her points is that the cosmetics industry is making big bucks by making us think they can solve our issue when they not only likely can't (except, possibly, in perception) but can cause issues where there were none or make some worse.
@rosey_ie
@rosey_ie Ай бұрын
@@axewalk But that’s it exactly! She’s not! Nor is she a scientist! And a lot of what have been linked in the description as her sources are cosmopolitan articles - it’s hardly primary research? I honestly don’t think I know what Leena’s trying to say here, other than “big pharma is bad, they’re all lying” but also “don’t give up your skincare if you don’t want to”? Big pharma has plenty to be thought “bad” of, but effective skincare has been around at a really inexpensive price point for yeeeeeeeears. I have used it and have the now-clear skin to thank them for. Does that mean that all ingredients are miraculous? No. Does it mean *none* are? Also no. Does Leena’s reading of one paper mean that one particular paper is the harbinger of undeniable truth? No, yet again. Leena is not a scientist, and this is a really lopsidedly-researched video essay. That’s not to say we all need loads of expensive skincare, we don’t. But lots of us have needed or simply wanted good quality skincare actives that have been *proven* effective. And that is not false advertisement, nor is it lies or myths the skincare industry has told us 🤷🏼‍♀️
@rosefox4245
@rosefox4245 Ай бұрын
I do agree that a collab with a professional on the topic would've been better, it has to be acknowledged that like 90% of Leena's talking about fashion is her talking about how it being as big an industry is bad
@crisfer22
@crisfer22 Ай бұрын
A small comment on vitamin C: its main purpose is as an antioxidant, which means to 'take the hit' of oxidation instead of having your cells take it. For that purpose, if it doesn't penetrate the skin it doesn't matter, as it's working as a shield.
@ayerhead07
@ayerhead07 Ай бұрын
The section about seeing older women happy and thriving really spoke to me. I'm 34 as well, and 2 years ago I ended up in a job that puts me in the company of some of the kindest, most compassionate, healthiest and happiest women I've ever met, and many of them are 65+. We are horse people, so we spend a lot of time outdoors and you can see their age in their skin, although many act much younger than you might expect of someone the same age. You can just tell that they've spent a lot of their life smiling by the grooves that are worn on their faces. Lately, I've found myself taking a quiet pleasure from noticing the little smile lines that show up around my mouth after a particularly fun, smiley day or a night out with friends. I have learned to be careful about sunscreen for my health, but I think it will be a lovely thing for my face to reflect the life I've lived. Great video, as always.
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716 Ай бұрын
For me it was discovering a channel on here where they do interviews with people as they progressively undress, and they include people of a wide range of body types, ages and experiences. It made me realise just how rarely I see the mainstream media really focus on and listen to people who are not marketably young, white and conventionally attractive - yet by definition, most of us humans are going to be "average" and hopefully we're all going to get a lot older... as someone with significant health problems, I'm often frustrated that it hasn't led me to some enlightened place of "every day is precious, I don't care if I'm all wrinkles, all over; it's quality of life that counts." It's like I believe that ideologically but not emotionally, which shows how powerful the messages of advertising, commerce and perhaps especially misogyny really are...
@thebarbieshoe
@thebarbieshoe Ай бұрын
I can’t like this video enough. I just ran out of a skin care product but I’ve been dragging my feet about ordering more. I am ready to simplify my routine and now I can do so confidently.
@leenanorms
@leenanorms Ай бұрын
Hahah yes, we’re all absolved of the guilt and are free to spend the extra money on something we genuinely want! Wooo!
@skye497
@skye497 Ай бұрын
Thanks for talking about people with genuine medical conditions! I have sever eczema managed with a dermatologist and some strong meds. Since lockdown, this last month is the only time I have ever had “clear” skin. I’ve tried so hard to achieve this and I don’t think I care too much about it aesthetically anymore. I’ve noticed how even now I’m still critically picking apart my skin for just being a bit red. “Clear” skin is just another unnecessary beauty standard forced upon people!
@lily21t11
@lily21t11 Ай бұрын
I feel your pain! Face eczema is the worst but I think just keeping it simple and finding what works for you seems to be the way.
@caitie226
@caitie226 Ай бұрын
Yes totally! Eczema runs in my family so I’ve been extremely lucky to have eczema-friendly skincare drilled into me (avoid soaps, fragrances, moisturise like your life depends on it, etc.) and it feels like I’m working with a completely different set of standards to other people sometimes. Like my skin isn’t itching, or cracked, or painful, or super dry, or stopping me from sleeping… so my skin is good right?
@JennyBrown-bw7dt
@JennyBrown-bw7dt Ай бұрын
really feel the point about not caring about skin aesthetically anymore - changes your perspective when your skin can be so sore/painful its life-changing. Though I also do find it easy to get obsessive about what my skin looks like because I take a small change in my skin as a sign of worse flares to come
@maisacietto5082
@maisacietto5082 Ай бұрын
Loved the video :) About the clinical trials, Michelle from Lab Muffin Beauty Science who’s a cosmetic scientist has a great video about the challenges on having clinical trials for cosmetics. Her videos are super well researched and I think provide an alternate perspective on the topic. I agree though that skin care marketing in general is so deceiving, it’s very frustrating!
@ilovepavlovanomnom
@ilovepavlovanomnom Ай бұрын
Came to the comments to say this. Without a PhD in skincare science, I don't think the average person can do research on this. It's like my partner is a dietitian, and he tells me about the different kinds of evidence which is legit specifically for nutrition and how to interpret it. Whereas so many people do their own research in nutrition and give black and white advice, which is at best only right in certain circumstances, and at worst, just wrong. The human body is incredibly complicated. That said, 100% for less consumption and cutting through the brainwashing of the beauty industry!!
@meremeth
@meremeth Ай бұрын
Was also going to comment this!
@rosey_ie
@rosey_ie Ай бұрын
I might even edit your comment to remove “alternate perspective” - makes it sound slightly “clean beauty”-esque, perhaps! And LMB is a thoroughly well researched, professional scientific voice, so glad to see many others mention her as a trusted source on this topic.
@eszemaszeszed
@eszemaszeszed Ай бұрын
the biggest scam is spf face creams coming in 30ml packages, and thats only enough for a week if you use the "recommended amount" lmao
@gabystringer2056
@gabystringer2056 Ай бұрын
That's not in and of itself a bad thing as people do travel for a few days or a week, or want to reapply spf in the day and keep it in your purse, and don't want to take a massive bottle.
@eszemaszeszed
@eszemaszeszed Ай бұрын
@@gabystringer2056 if they'd offer bigger bottles, yeah, but THESE ARENT travel sizes tho. that's all there is. it is wasteful as hell and just plain greedy. it is bad for the planet and our wallets.
@meisjeViv
@meisjeViv Ай бұрын
@@gabystringer2056 yeah exactly, I have the big bottle at home and take the 30ml one with me and refill from the big bottle when it is empty :)
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716 Ай бұрын
@@gabystringer2056 Exactly! I'm disabled and don't drive. I already have to lug enough medical stuff around, so those things are great for days out when every bit of weight reduced in my bag is a good thing. I do think sometimes there's a mental association/marketing factor in that some of the more luxuriously presented products come in a bijou size for an absurd price, whereas the more everyday things come in economy size bottles for maximum value. So that might play a part in suspicion of the small containers, but they do have genuine utility.
@Evanna11LilyLuna
@Evanna11LilyLuna Ай бұрын
Yeah I like the small bottles for having them in my bag. Plus trying out a new sunskin without having to get a big amount.
@pushniqa
@pushniqa Ай бұрын
The best decision i made was to go to a dermatologist. Trying to find what works for you while watching all the ads and recommendations online was a nightmare and mostly didn't help. Now, my skin is mostly healthy looking, and i only use the products I've been prescribed and it's way less than what i was using before.
@k.oseland
@k.oseland Ай бұрын
What I will say as someone with sensitive skin (and it’s been that way since I was a little kid) retinol has been a lifesaver for my facial skin. I was dealing with all kinds of painful issues and regularly using it for 2-3 years has kept it clear and painfree. And it was recommended to me by my dermatologist. I also use sunscreen religiously (have been for the last 5 years) and that’s my skincare routine. Lots of moisturizer, cleansing, SPF, and retinol. Honestly I wouldn’t have done it if my dermatologist hadn’t recommended it.
@MsTriangle
@MsTriangle Ай бұрын
I don't know, man. After starting using retinol, niacynamide and acids the quality of my skin improved tremendously.
@meremeth
@meremeth Ай бұрын
Id recommend the Labmuffin video 'does retinol in scincare really work' Might shed some light on why its recommended by dermatologists to treat skin conditions even without as much scientific backing.
@inspiredby624
@inspiredby624 Ай бұрын
I think the most important takeaway is to not obsess over skincare. If you enjoy it it can be great as self-care routine but don't feel pressured to spend more time and money on it than you're happy with. Personally I like to keep my skincare simple but effective: serum + SPF in the morning, cleanser + tretinoin + moisturizer at night. This routine is cheap, easy and makes me feel like I'm taking care of myself without stressing myself out. And the funny thing is that since developing this routine even though my skin doesn't magically look "perfect" I worry less about the pimples and wrinkles. I'm doing what I can on a reasonable (time and money) budget and the rest is up to genetics and environmental factors outside my control. As long as my smile lines outweigh my frown lines I'm good!
@queencrimsonqueencrimson
@queencrimsonqueencrimson Ай бұрын
That's not how the numbers on the SPF work Leenaaaaaaaaa
@ThisIsNotRelevant
@ThisIsNotRelevant 18 күн бұрын
Omg please expand, I need to know!
@leilathecuttlefish
@leilathecuttlefish Ай бұрын
all the love to your channel and this new video (I watch every one). As a science friend, I would suggest when you quote a source, to share the source (last name of first author and publication year tend to be sufficient) on the frame of the video. Great quote! Would love for it to be easier to read more in the source material. Love the additional sources in the description of the video
@dottiewi661
@dottiewi661 Ай бұрын
As a pharmacist: our chemistry professor said (not related directly to skin care but health care) pharmacists should support the use of renewable energy sources, because we are ones that are aware of the need of petrochemistry to synthesise the majority of pharmaceutical ingredients. So we should minimise the use of fossil oils elsewhere, so we have enough to treat humanity’s illnesses.
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716
@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716 Ай бұрын
Yeah, one of my big frustrations is how often healthcare gets indicted for its single use plastics etc., without consideration that those things are like that for a reason, and that behind that high disposability is a long history of patient deaths from before we had such high standards. We are some of the people society already considers highly disposable, and too often we're made to feel that way in the environmentally-conscious conversations and communities we want to be part of as a result. In the UK especially it's interesting to me how the government, while leaving the likes of Amazon to ruin the planet unfettered and relatively untaxed, pushes the NHS (always a soft target) to make sustainability changes around things like asthma inhalers. Having your inhaler changed without warning is such a stressful thing, and for many of us there's a usability reason why we had, say, a plastic turbohaler instead of the ones with the little aluminium(?) canisters containing the drug. In three decades of asthma and umpteen training videos, I've never got confident with the latter kind; they're fiddly as hell, and now I have to cart a spacer (also plastic, ironically) around with my reliever because when I'm panicking and can't breathe, that's not the ideal moment for a thing to be fiddly!
@dottiewi661
@dottiewi661 Ай бұрын
@@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716 No Person in need of medical treatment should feel bad for the medication they need! Especially not for single use plastics in medicine, when so much single use plastic is used for food etc, which is much more… I mean, sure, what’s possible or practical can or should be changed but it’s important not to lay the blame at the patients‘ feet. Regarding your example of inhalers. I took a lecture on ecofriendly pharmacy and their stance on it was: powder inhaler are ecofriendlier than aluminium can sprays because of the carrier gas. The aluminium is easier to recycle, I think. In terms of application or user friendliness both forms have their drawbacks. As you wrote coordination in an emergency with the spray can be a problem, (autohalers would be better, the spray dose is released via inhaling, but that’s additional plastic plus can and carrier gas). And powder inhalers all have a different makeup and release technique and switching between is difficult, also one should never exhale into the gadget, because the wetness can cause the drawn powder to adhere to the inhaler’s wall etc. In Germany I’m not aware of any attempts to influence the ecofriendliness on the patient’s side?
@rosey_ie
@rosey_ie Ай бұрын
I feel medicine is the one industry in which petrochemical products (used only as necessary mind you 😬) are a clear and obvious need and provide a benefit to all of humankind. They still pose unreasonable challenges much too often (like, not being able to recycle a blister pack. SURELY we can do better 🙄) but they have a clear net benefit. And if we can also use their waste products to our benefit (hello Vaseline!) then why on earth would we choose not to?! The waste product exists and will exist whether we use it or not!
@blump5080
@blump5080 Ай бұрын
This also explains why the men in my life barely wash their faces and yet have perfect skin
@leenanorms
@leenanorms Ай бұрын
Bingo
@zwaanisdenaam
@zwaanisdenaam Ай бұрын
Surely there are other factors involved. Hormones being one of them ;)
@Kat-y2z
@Kat-y2z Ай бұрын
They have way thicker skin and peoduce more sebum. So skin looks clearer and nicer generally ​@@zwaanisdenaam
@Rachel-hf5ub
@Rachel-hf5ub Ай бұрын
They might also just have good skin without skin problems...I know plenty of men with eczema etc
@blump5080
@blump5080 Ай бұрын
Yes repliers I agree, it's just a casual observation 💜
@etheriaa
@etheriaa Ай бұрын
as a 33yo woman i’ve been bombarded by skincare and face sculpting ads/videos and i’m grateful to have this video in my arsenal for the next time i’m about to fall for the things that i know don’t do shit except making me want to buy stuff to feel better about myself. i was hesitant about starting retinol even though all my friends and ig skincare gurus tell me so, bc i have sensitive skin and didn’t want to literally strip it away; i feel very validated by this vid now 😄❤️
@stephaniem1107
@stephaniem1107 Ай бұрын
Same! I'm literally getting cosmetic surgery ads now which is so wrong!
@TwelvetreeZ
@TwelvetreeZ Ай бұрын
Oh my god, I turned 30 at the end of last year and I SWEAR I am getting more skincare/weight loss/cosmetic surgery ads than I was before, some of them explicitly aimed at 40+ people 👀
@Karis94
@Karis94 Ай бұрын
Turned 30 a few weeks ago and already find myself thinking about skincare and wrinkles. I think it’s from all the years growing up watching adverts on tv that targeted women in their 30s, 40s and 50s and told them they need anti-wrinkle creams. I even remember one that did different products for different age groups and I’m sure one was for 25+. No one should worry about something that is going to happen anyway, especially in their 20s! I feel bad for the younger generation that gets it shoved in their faces on social media everyday.
@ellaraykondrat
@ellaraykondrat Ай бұрын
It’s such a good idea that our bodies actually came up with the idea millennia ago… I love your wit!
@indiathompson8582
@indiathompson8582 Ай бұрын
I definitely went through the stages of grief watching this video - denial (the dermatologists I follow surely aren't lying to me?), anger (the skincare/beauty industry is utterly maddening), bargaining (okay, but if there is a 10% chance of retinol maybe working I should at least keep that in rotation), depression (our environment is becoming uninhabitable and I'm worrying about looking 'young') and finally acceptance!! Thank you so much Leena for making this well-researched and thought-provoking video. I think I speak for a load of people in this community when I say it's so comforting to have a trustworthy voice on this platform.
@MajaPlejada
@MajaPlejada Ай бұрын
I don't care if I look older tbh, I mostly focus on keeping my skin clean and moisturized. I don't wear make-up (I was the alternative, not-like-other-girls teen, I never learned how XD), only SPF (and not enough of it. I use skincare as a way to take care of myself, it makes me feel taked care of, even when depression hits hardest. I don't think we should throw away all of our skincare - yes, it moisturizes and exfoliates on its own, but it was not made to work in the polluted world we made for ourselves, to deal with chlorinated water. As long as we don't just throw money at every magical miracle cure, observe which ingredients actually do help us (niacinamide helps me a lot to deal with skin imperfections, heals them quicker and makes dark spots disappear quicker too), we can do skincare reasonably :D Also - our skin was developed by evolution to more-or-less work. Somerimes better, sometimes worse, and we live in a society in which "good looks" are very important, looking shabby and not taken care of (or even: not pretty! for some people in some places) may impede on your career. We can change it, but it is going slowly
@Turbonilla
@Turbonilla Ай бұрын
well, I don't now about completely not using products, I think the rule should be: if you don't need products, don't use them. I unfortunately need a minimal skincare (I'm an old millennial and I can call it simply: wash and cream) to deal with my skin sometimes oily, sometimes dry, with a tendency to acne. I found out that the right cleanse and moisturizer prevent it to blow up in a messy mess (and maybe along the years prevented some wrinkle to appear but I have no proof of that). But you are right about the ridiculous amount of products they are selling to very young people when you need literally two things: to be clean, to be hydrated. Ah yes, one thing more: to be protected from sun.
@sarahlouise149
@sarahlouise149 Ай бұрын
I have always been genuinely really excited to see how I age naturally, I’m currently 32 and I’m starting to get lines at the corners of my eyes which makes me so happy. The way I see it, signs of ‘ageing’ show that you have lived. My grandpa was given a brown leather satchel when he turned 18. When he first got it the leather was stiff and smooth. He carried it every single day to work until his late 80s by which time the leather had become marked and scuffed but was also so soft and had developed the most beautiful patina. That’s why I can’t wait to see how I age naturally and why I look forward to it and fully embrace it.
@jacdyson
@jacdyson Ай бұрын
The issue is, to avoid cancer, especially in Australia where I live, we need sunscreen. So the minimum routine would be sunscreen in the am, oil cleanse it off and then water based cleanse at night. But cleansing tends to dry out skin, so moisturise after that. As someone with acne, I need retinol. So my minimum routine is sunscreen, oil cleanse, water cleanser, treatment and moisturiser.
@agathequenard49
@agathequenard49 Ай бұрын
I’ve never been been this early so I’ll take this opportunity to say I love your videos !! You really inspire me to try new things and to be more hopeful about social change ! 😊
@teganj9512
@teganj9512 Ай бұрын
This makes me feel so justified in just giving up on most skincare things not prescribed by a doctor. But also deeply embarrassed at my lack of SPF use
@sophiablum1436
@sophiablum1436 Ай бұрын
Leena this video is amazing, thank you so much!!! I have a similar skin care routine to you but always felt bad because I just felt too overwhelmed to do anything more and let myself believe that I'm actively harming my skin by not doing more - I feel so relieved right now!!!
@brennaraeder6630
@brennaraeder6630 Ай бұрын
I use SPF, a gentle cleanser to remove the SPF, basic moisturizer, and a glycolic acid serum I alternate with a retinol. I am incapable of leaving pimples alone so I always end up with scabs & scars when I get one, and I've found the glycolic acid and retinol do keep things in check and help my skin heal more quickly. I went 10 years of getting pimples without using any active products so I feel pretty confident that the difference I've noticed is real, but I also don't think that means the products are infallible or clinically proven. They just make me more physically comfortable (and prevent me wearing concealer and beginning the vicious cycle that makeup does to my skin). I really enjoyed the video and appreciate anytime we share accurate and scientific information about these things, and also I won't be changing my skincare routine unless my skin starts responding to it differently :)
@justinamoniz
@justinamoniz Ай бұрын
1) I had cystic acne for a long time that was painful and also made it so I didn't like looking at my own face, because I felt like I didn't look like "me". I also had it on my back and shoulders, which was particularly painful and left me with a lot of scars. Because of the cystic acne, I did 8 months of isotretinoin (Acutane), which is basically a big overdose of vitamin A. It worked and I'm so glad I did it. But it was intense (emotionally and physically) and painful (everything in your body is dried out). It gave me a really good perspective on what it actually means to have skin issues and take care of your skin - which is much more than your face! 2) I have adhd and having a complicated skincare routine just wouldn't be possible for me to maintain long term. The energy of caring for my body needs to be put towards brushing my teeth and bathing.
@thatjillgirl
@thatjillgirl 19 күн бұрын
I spent a good 15 years fighting cystic acne in every way I could on my own before finally throwing in the towel and seeing a dermatologist at the age of 30. One round of Accutane later, I was completely free of cystic acne and 99% free of any other kind of acne, and I remain so to this day. Sometimes you really do just need to go beyond "skincare" and pull out the big guns.
@janerhoadesart
@janerhoadesart Ай бұрын
Just btw LabMuffinBeautyScience did a video about if sunscreen is necessary indoors and I think her general conclusion was not really unless you're sunning yourself in front of a giant window with direct sunlight. Might want to check it out and double check if my memory is correct!
@janerhoadesart
@janerhoadesart Ай бұрын
Also this video is terrifying for me bc I've had acne forever. Tret, exfoliators, serums, etc never helped. I can't take Accutane, either. Are you telling me I should just never wash my face (unless makeup) or moisturize at all?? It feels so scary because we've been indoctrinated so much to believe we need at least those two things if not 3000 other products... Well, I might try just.... doing nothing to my face except water. Maybe it'll clear my acne up. Lmao
@omolisa3783
@omolisa3783 Ай бұрын
​@@janerhoadesart I have found that a very simple cream for sensitive skin helps reduce my acne, it's basically made of zinc. But idk if that would help you, too. And no matter what I do, whenever I eat "too much" sweet stuff or am close to starting my period, my skin just breaks out.
@janerhoadesart
@janerhoadesart Ай бұрын
@@omolisa3783 thank you for the recommendation. I’m currently trying out washing once a day with a gentle cleanser and cocoa butter mixed with a jojoba oil and just leaving my face alone for now lol
@canineeverything
@canineeverything 28 күн бұрын
@@janerhoadesartI’ve had amazing success with spironolactone for acne, if that’s an option for you!
@tcwaxwing
@tcwaxwing Ай бұрын
Fab. All the points well and clearly made too, this feels like one I could link to friends drowning in skincare with a gentle 'just watch, there you go.' And I'm so glad you mentioned Jessica and her work! She's so good at breaking down the myths and harms in the beauty sphere.
@abstractforest4546
@abstractforest4546 Ай бұрын
I can’t tell you how validating this is as someone who didn’t know that you were “supposed to” wash your face daily (ie more than just after wearing makeup or sweating or getting dirty) until college. People mocked me for not having a skincare routine but my skin was fine lol and now I know why!
@MarleyMe95
@MarleyMe95 Ай бұрын
I appreciate the message that aging is not the enemy and we should be happy to live long, full lives no matter how our skin looks. There is so much focus now on the idea of clear skin as a moral achievement somehow. But I do think some of this video lacks a bit of nuance, particularly about the efficacy of some products mentioned and on the idea that products might be "hurting" our skin. I really love Dr. Shereene Idriss here on KZfaq (she's the only derm online I actually trust). She gives a really in depth overview of some of these products and how they work. For example, she'll break down every type of Vitamin C and which is most effective/least irritating. I feel she's very science driven. Plus, she overlaps a lot with the ideas you mentioned about how we shouldn't be afraid to age and she is also pretty merciless about junk marketing on cosmetics (for example, she would agree collagen is a useless product, lol).
@daisyrye
@daisyrye Ай бұрын
This simultaneously made me angry and breath a sigh of relief 😮‍💨 I have incredibly sensitive skin and have had so many types of long routines over the years. After a recent flare up, seemingly out of nowhere, I went back to basics (wash, moisturise, SPF) and have had no issues with my skin. I started thinking "was the old routine doing anything?" and now I'm certain...NO! These were the facts I didn't want to hear but am extremely glad I know 😭😂
@Sophia-xd8kb
@Sophia-xd8kb Ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible video! Skincare is one of my favourite topics. Not in the "i want to buy all the stuff" sense but rather that I'm interested in what our skin is capable of doing by itself and how the industry is trying to trick everyone into spending money.. Sooo basically exactly your video! Thank you for making it! My skincare routine basically looks like yours! Not the same brands but I also only use a solid cleansing bar, spf and a simple moisturizer and my skin looks just fine! Also side note: Absolutely in love with your witchy setup! You put so much love and effort and creativity and crafting into your videos and I really appreciate that!
@binamc1125
@binamc1125 Ай бұрын
As a person who has a chronic life altering skin condition, this is such a refreshing video! Thanks so much for this video. I really enjoyed it ❤
@deerlyXO
@deerlyXO Ай бұрын
I used to “wash, tone, moisturize” twice a day because “you’re supposed to” / “it’s good for your skin”… how many times have I heard that? Now I wash when it feels dirty and moisturize when it feels dry. Toner had been irritating my skin no matter which brand I tried. I feel a lot better about it now!
@crisfer22
@crisfer22 Ай бұрын
I've heard that toner was invented to balance the pH of the skin at the time when washing was done with actual soap (which is very basic). Once cleansers started using other surfactants, they could be pH balanced, so toner started being unnecessary. As people were used to needing it, companies started putting hidrating ingredients on the.
@sisifyme
@sisifyme Ай бұрын
no one needs "toner". It's a complete scam.
@marcelamacedo4574
@marcelamacedo4574 Ай бұрын
As someone who struggled with chronic cystic acne for almost 15 years and now struggles with a very sensitive and reactive skin I rely on skincare products everyday. In the process of taking care of my skin I have tried every cookie crazy recipe on the internet and tested every product on drugstores, from the cheapest to the luxurous. I also have gone to several dermatologists and used many prescriptions medication. What I can say is that less is more and if you have a serious skin condition, seek professional healthcare. Otherwise cleansing, protecting and moisturizing is more than enough and doesn't have to be expensive.
@elizabethhorn1102
@elizabethhorn1102 Ай бұрын
Oh my god, Leena, THANK YOU so much for all of the research you've put into this. Wow, if we have even get half the quality of this, it is so worth waiting an extra week between your videos.
@sarahlouise149
@sarahlouise149 Ай бұрын
One of the things that baffles me about people who use skincare to fight ageing/prevent wrinkles/etc. is that they would have never known what their skin would have looked like without those products. So how do they know if the products are doing what they claim? They have absolutely nothing to measure it against! It all just seems like a waste of money, time and effort to me. My philosophy is simple: drink water, eat, exercise and sleep well. Avoid makeup, skincare, alcohol, caffeine and stressing about how you look. The quicker you learn to accept the way you look naturally, the happier (and also richer) you’ll be.
@meremeth
@meremeth Ай бұрын
The things that make people happy are different person to person. Using retinol and vitamin C to slow the effects of aging makes some people happier in their bodies. Even *gasp* Botox makes some people happy! Who cares! It's safe and doesn't effect you
@stephaniem1107
@stephaniem1107 Ай бұрын
Oh man I needed to hear ALL of this. I went hard on the skincare during lock-down and now I'm in the process of using up my stash and weaning myself off everything except sunscreen, cleanser and moisturizer. I'll likely keep exfoliating too but not religiously like I was.
@jennychionidi8495
@jennychionidi8495 Ай бұрын
Very interesting video, made me wonder about my own skincare routine. Something that I want to point out, however, is that it seems you put all skin types into two categories: normal skin with occasional blemishes and awful skin conditions. I feel like this is a false dichotomy. I don't have any life-altering skin conditions on my face, but it is very oily, so if I don't cleanse it twice daily, it becomes an oily mess that not only looks and feels unpleasant to me, it also transfers to my pillowcase, which I have to change very often. I have seen changes to my appearance once I went into some kind of routine: less oil, more glow, relatively smooth surface, etc. Did it completely change and "healed" my skin, as those ads promise? No. Did it help me with some problems? Yes. What I want to say is that skincare may not be a miracle cure and you are right to point that out, but it can change the appearance somewhat.
@Kasamira
@Kasamira Ай бұрын
Initially the 2.5 hours sounds bananas, I was in the midst of writing a very shocked comment before realizing that’s only 20 minutes a day. And people who care about skincare generally apply it twice, once in the morning/once at night. So, 10ish minutes per application on average. Which means if you do a face mask once a week or a peel or tweeze your eyebrows- you’re already over that 2.5 hour average That seems pretty reasonable
@Shetooktothewoods
@Shetooktothewoods Ай бұрын
Right. I spend over an hour and a half brushing my teeth each week! That’s 5 minutes, twice a day, which seems very basic, but over an hour and a half a week seems like crazy talk.
@Kasamira
@Kasamira Ай бұрын
@@Shetooktothewoods I’ve never thought about it that way but you’re right! Or something like brushing your hair, if you’ve got short hair it probably takes
@amy_smith
@amy_smith Ай бұрын
I needed this. I've been struggling a lot with adult acne for the past 2 years and the amount of products people have recommended to me that have made no difference at all. My acne is hormonal, not something that can be fixed with an OTC topical product! I really dislike the idea that clean skin can be brought.
@allisonthabit7639
@allisonthabit7639 Ай бұрын
so glad you did this topic!! I've thinking these things for the last year or so after getting over my own obsessive skincare phase that I had
@emmad8732
@emmad8732 Ай бұрын
Watched this while doing my skincare 😂 I totally agree with you about the ritual of it. I know spending ten minutes massaging my face with my gua sha isn't making any meaningful difference but after a busy, headache-inducing day it does feel nice.
@judithodgers2008
@judithodgers2008 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. This is the most life changing video you have made and I love many of your videos. I already suspected a lot of what you said but I feel a sense of relief at confidently being able to bypass all the expense and time we have been bullied into spending on 'maintenance '.
@candiceo8028
@candiceo8028 Ай бұрын
Hell yes! Thanks so much for your care and research Leena!
@luciacanaveral970
@luciacanaveral970 Ай бұрын
"The idea and the industrial complex of skincare belongs more in entertainment than it does in a pharmacy". YEEEESSSS!!
@katekirk3964
@katekirk3964 Ай бұрын
This is great advice, I went to a dermatology study day last weekend with a dermatologist working for the NHS and he couldn't stress enough the damage the products we use on our skin daily causes! Great vid!
@shutupcharli483
@shutupcharli483 Ай бұрын
This is honestly such a relief. I’ve always been skeptical about skincare and resented having to buy lots of things I didn’t really understand so it’s good to know that my instincts are right in this case!!
@plutonianllama3011
@plutonianllama3011 Ай бұрын
thank you for this! a breath of fresh air!!
@debcarroll8192
@debcarroll8192 Ай бұрын
Fantastic video! I feel so much better for never bothering with skin products other than sunscreen. Please don't be afraid of aging-- it's actually pretty awesome in a lot of ways. I just turned 60, and I am happier in my own skin (no pun intended) than I have ever been.
@PriyaPatel-wn2wr
@PriyaPatel-wn2wr Ай бұрын
Always the most top notch content on the internet! Loveliest Leena!
@mangeusedelivres
@mangeusedelivres Ай бұрын
I sometimes go in a Leena video with mild interest and then she delivers the most entertaining and informative thing I've seen all week ! I really love your videos !! (I just sometimes forget about them...)
@annar7102
@annar7102 Ай бұрын
This really changed my perspective on my relationship with skincare, thank you for researching and making this video!
@lavanyasunthara
@lavanyasunthara Ай бұрын
Dear Leena, I'm impressed again and again about what you create. Thank you!!
@felicityhemming9987
@felicityhemming9987 Ай бұрын
This is the video I so badly needed! I think we all need it!
@pauline6724
@pauline6724 Ай бұрын
Thank you, I loved the video! I have been a subscriber for some time and I can say you still are full of life !
@rasberries566
@rasberries566 17 күн бұрын
Needed channel! Thank you for your research 💗
@ThePixiixiq
@ThePixiixiq Ай бұрын
You'll be happy to know the add that followed your video was for SPF 50 of the decent kind ;P My skincare rutine is dictated by my eczema and has all my life. Honestly I think it might be a blessing in disguise given how the industry evolved. It has shaped my approach to products, not just the obvious of fragrance free and such, but if it's not simple, transparent and tested by independent third party agencies then it's a no-go. Granted I am very privileged living in a part of the world that has several of those.
@alannananaa
@alannananaa Ай бұрын
Very much needed! I turn 25 this year and have started going down the rabbit hole of skin care and rentinol/retinoids etc. So I'm very glad this video came into existence before I could spend a small fortune on skin care, and I'll just carry on as I am (with SPF and moisturizer)
@dariab2558
@dariab2558 Ай бұрын
Yay! Hoped you'd cover this in your lies series!
@diml664
@diml664 Ай бұрын
The damage shown in the truck driver photos can also just be prevented without spf by wearing a hat and staying in the shade. I have never ever encountered a sunscreen that did not make my skin bright red and burn it off my face, so I'll stick with the shade.
@amberglow7612
@amberglow7612 Ай бұрын
I have a similar experience with SPF, sadly
@jazz9493
@jazz9493 Ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this video Leena, thanks for doing the research so we don’t have to! Also veryyyy up for fewer but more-researched videos if they’re as interesting as this one! 🥰
@Julielovescats7455
@Julielovescats7455 Ай бұрын
A couple of years ago when I had a lot of climate anxiety and did a school assignment about microplastic in our oceans I literally stopped using anything packaged in singleuse plastic including skincare. I wanted to find better alternatives, but couldn't find anything that lived up to my high standards regarding ethics, sustainability and effectiveness. I haven't used skincare for years. At first I felt bad (and sometimes even dirty) and genuinely believed I was treating my skin badly, but over time I realized that my skin Is not really that different. Regardless of whether or not I use products that suit my face I will have a pimple or two around my period, but that's basically it. These days I only use sunscreen and in the rare occasion were I wear makeup (only parties) I literally just remove I with coconut oil. Ive been suspecting for years, that a lot of claims made by the beauty industry is bullshit, and have seen other people claiming so, but this video really validated those thoughts. Great video as always!
@ashby7m
@ashby7m Ай бұрын
I am definitely going to stop worrying so much this is everything I needed
@hannahbate5766
@hannahbate5766 Ай бұрын
Wow - I’ve learned so much! Thank you for passing on this research and sparing us the bull that the industry continues to push on us!
@adrianaraats5122
@adrianaraats5122 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I've been struggling with adult acne for years, and just felt like all the anti-acne skincare was a scam. It was always so disheartening to hear friends talk about skincare like it was a good thing when it was never my experience.
@natgl11
@natgl11 Ай бұрын
as someone that has been researching skincare products for years, so much of this video is just not it. I agree with the most important point, which is you need a good SPF in a proper amount every day regardless of your skin tone or the weather, and then you need a proper cleanser to take it off. I also agree that a lot of cosmetic trials leave much to be desired. that being said, I really dislike the general "chemicals are bad" tone in this video and also the inaccuracies of how skin works, what pimples are, etc. let's fight over consumption and promote loving our skin and the privilege of aging, yes, but let's do so without falling into naturalist fallacies and over generalisations. just because some ingredients don't follow the dalton rule doesn't mean they don't work. just because some ingredients are byproducts of petroleum doesn't mean that they aren't some of the safest and best ingredients out there for many, many skin conditions (petroleum is already being mined regardless for literally everything. i highly doubt giving up vaseline is going to have much of an environmental impact and there simply isn't anything that comes close to it cosmetically in how well it works and how well tolerated it is for even the most damaged and sensitive skin. there is a reason it's used on burned victims). many "natural" products are actually quite wasteful and take a lot more resources to produce than their synthetic counterparts and are often quite irritating. there is honestly so much more i want to say, but i don't have the spoons for it and also I've already seen it mentioned in other comments.
@mariongivhan4574
@mariongivhan4574 Ай бұрын
This has inspired me to see what happens if I go back to basics !
@ExLibris-Alys
@ExLibris-Alys Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for doing all that research so that we don’t have to. I can now stop using the moisturiser that costs much more than it should and get something else that more suits my budget and does the same thing without worrying. Much appreciated Leena 👏🏻💛💐
@magdalenaberger2785
@magdalenaberger2785 Ай бұрын
SUCH a great video! Thank you Leena
@achilleus9918
@achilleus9918 Ай бұрын
here's a fun skincare lie i was told as a kid with bad acne (turns out i probably have pcos, so that's... fun): if the cleanser doesn't burn a little bit, then it's not working well enough
@jessicaharrison4719
@jessicaharrison4719 Ай бұрын
I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was 14, and still had to go through a round of Accutane to get rid of my acne once my PCOS was treated. I remember people saying the burn means it is working, but it didn't matter what products I used, acne wouldn't get better until I had it medically and internally treated. I still got called dirty regularly between my oily skin type, my excess melanin on my neck, and my acne, even when I scrubbed and cleansed and toned and did all the things to make my skin better.
@iidaii8875
@iidaii8875 Ай бұрын
Amazing video. You hit all the relevant points during it. I learned so much and will from now on lather on the sunscreen!
@ca-ke9493
@ca-ke9493 Ай бұрын
Its interesting that most people with actual skin problems avoid facials at all costs and I heard a lot more horror stories of people breaking out from facials than it being a recommended regular activity.
@carolynbotelho614
@carolynbotelho614 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Leena for sharing this. I'm in my mid 40s and my age is really starting to show from lines, puffy eyes, blotchy, and red spots. I have been overwhelmed researching what is the 'best' products to use. I just started retinol as I thought that's supposed to work, but it's another sad promise from skincare. Unfortunately I am from the generation that use to use SPF 2 so I haven't been as religious as I should be with applying it daily. I have always washed my face though thankfully. Time to go back to a simple routine. But as you said getting older is a fact. It is ok to be older, it shows we have lived - it's the wisdom maybe we have a problem with. Our expectations need a redefinition.
@gemineyyy
@gemineyyy Ай бұрын
Wow. Pleaseeeee do one for hair. I would love to pull back on all the expensive products but I just don’t know where to start. Amazing Leena ❤️
@fionaflynn6771
@fionaflynn6771 Ай бұрын
Just wanted to say that Jessica DeFino's writing has, over the past year, completely de-influenced me from buying skincare. Truly, she is such an amazing researcher/writer, and subscribing to her Substack has made such a difference for me in how I interact with the beauty industry; and once you open your eyes to how much marketing there is about telling us how horrible it is to age, it's impossible to close them again. Thank you Leena for doing such a thorough and thoughtful deep dive into something that we ALL think about, on the daily!!!
@tolmeia
@tolmeia Ай бұрын
so glad you mentioned Jessica DeFino! she really reassured me that it's okay to be doing nothing with my skin because it's a radical act in this world that wants us to hate it
@laurastars
@laurastars Ай бұрын
I feel so validated. Thank-you!
@shaaba
@shaaba Ай бұрын
you're so COOL! thanks for all your research efforts Leena 💃🏽
@leenanorms
@leenanorms Ай бұрын
Xxxx
@maria5988
@maria5988 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've always just been a person who uses minimal makeup and fragrance free drugstore moisturizer, so thanks for confirming I don't really need more than that. Although, great reminder that I need more SPF 🌞
@YouareSOjelly
@YouareSOjelly Ай бұрын
I think children should learn skincare for the purposes of SPF care: protecting their skin from the sun and cleansing that effectively removes it. However, I dont know that we should rely on corporate marketing for that education. 😅 I'm super not surprised about "clinical trials" being a marketing ploy. Unlearned a few lies myself today! There's so much internalized bs we need to unlearn about to love ourselves. But (along with simmering rage about being lied to) I feel better that I can live with less in the skincare dept. 🎉 Hats off to you for tackling this, Lena. 🎉
@dancinginmaltesers
@dancinginmaltesers Ай бұрын
As someone who has experienced clinically bad acne and has been pretty obsessed in the past about skincare I am so grateful for this video existing. I have tried to minimise my routine hugely and do believe it’s more about what you put in your mouth, stress levels, genetics and environmental exposure than a product. Like others I have also heard we need some level of exposure to sun without sun cream otherwise we’ll all be vitamin d deficient and also not all sun creams are created equally but apart from that we don’t need a lot. I was conned into buying expensive eye cream and I actually love putting it on so much (instantly makes me feel calm) but I’ll try and find some alternative. It was interesting that you said even ‘natural’ products are produced using fossil fuels, definitely going to investigate my skincare now! Thank you 🙏
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