Lin Family Murders Analysis | Convicted by Anger Alone?

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

2 жыл бұрын

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the Lin Family Murders?
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@xdandychiggins
@xdandychiggins 2 жыл бұрын
i don’t know how dr. grande manages to pump out so much compelling content but i’m definitely not complaining, thank you for all your hard work!
@ghosttowntomato
@ghosttowntomato 2 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate and sad fact is, humanity will never be short on such sickening crimes like these. The day Dr. Grande has nothing to speak about will be a truly beautiful thing.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
There will always be the internet influencers!
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
A S - Even though I dis!liked your comment, I do like that there is open discussion and free exchange of ideas on this channel.
@holden3
@holden3 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking he has a good support system/ team & enjoys it
@bojangles1614
@bojangles1614 2 жыл бұрын
I actually use his videos to fall asleep. 😬
@piperjaycie
@piperjaycie 2 жыл бұрын
His abuse of Brenda didn’t come out until after the police started to think he committed the murders. So no one can say people think he’s guilty because of that abuse. He was already suspected of being guilty of murder. The abuse just gave them yet another motive.
@tomswift6198
@tomswift6198 2 жыл бұрын
What the police thought is not as important as what the jury thought (or, rather, most of the jury). If the jury heard accusations of abuse, the guy's goose was cooked even if he was never charged.
@seren9613
@seren9613 2 жыл бұрын
You're spot on. I remember watching the interview with the daughter after he was locked up. It broke my heart. I think his primary motive was to gain more access to Brenda, and the newsagency was an added bonus.
@jackieboud2490
@jackieboud2490 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@MelanCholy2001
@MelanCholy2001 2 жыл бұрын
(To SazRob) But even without Brenda, the co-mingled blood of the victims in Bobby's garage is very hard to explain. If I were a police, the blood and the shoe box destruction would have been far more than enough. Did Bobby and his Enabling Pedo Wife seriously step in all the blood upon discovery of the bloody family bodies? "Oops?!" Or is it more likely that the bit of DNA came from the weapon and the killer? And he's the only one with motive (before his pedo-ness was broadcast): he got the newsstand. He and EPWife found the bodies, and took in Bobby's "girlfriend" (that poor girl), so Bobby is the one who benefitted here. Or the brutally-murdered family was really part of a crime syndicate and didn't kick up the vig to the capo. I like Bobby for the crime way better, but "secret mob family" could work, I _...guess?_
@Ffoo_ffighter
@Ffoo_ffighter Ай бұрын
Why would he evict the grandparents. That's cruel.
@pineapplesyumyum
@pineapplesyumyum 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even know how I found dr. Grande… but I’m so glad I did. His dry ass jokes are hilarious and I really enjoy his informative videos.
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 2 жыл бұрын
He’s so consistent and puts out so many videos too. Without a doubt one of my favorite youtubers.
@paulaschroder6170
@paulaschroder6170 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurasalo6160 .Wow. You are really a negative person. No reason to write a novel! Just exit the video.
@cUser691
@cUser691 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurasalo6160 Ph.D level psychologists and those who’ve earned a doctorate in any discipline can use title Dr. Mental health professionals-like psychiatrists [medical doctors] + psychologists use tools like, for example, DSM to diagnose mental health disorders. Dr Grande and his peers can and do diagnose mental health disorders in their case loads. Dr. Grande’s “I’m not diagnosing anyone” refers to the fact that the subjects aren’t his personal patients/clients. It’s a legal consideration too. Just as plastic surgeons who review celebrity photos have multiple disclaimers that they’re only speculating who -or if- celebrity had what procedure done so too does Dr Grande state this disclaimer. Neither a plastic surgeon nor a psychologist diagnoses skmeone who is not their patient or client. They’re only giving their evaluation.
@lynncrf
@lynncrf 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurasalo6160 His doctorate is in counselling education. I know things vary by state, but I was under the impression that *all* counsellors/therapists could diagnose in the US. LMFTs definitely can, but not being American I am not sure what the difference is between LMFTs and counsellors in the US.
@kellicline5336
@kellicline5336 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurasalo6160 according to the MHA someone with a PhD in counseling can diagnose they just can't write prescriptions. I honestly don't think he's trying to deceive anyone. He's essentially a guy giving his opinion on the internet like a million others. No one should be taking medical advice from a stranger online. As well no one should fall into the trap of assuming that someone's qualifications make them the end all be all on any subject. This is why second opinions and specialized fields are a thing. One physician or clinician could be of one opinion and another could come to an entirely separate conclusion. It's our jobs as adults to understand this is entertainment and discern someone giving arm chair opinions as opposed to treating a person or giving medical advice. I mean a nurse practioner isn't a Dr but they write prescriptions and a pharmacy technician isn't a pharmacist but they fill them and mix compounds. Just because a person doesn't have a specific title doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about/ doing.
@glendasully
@glendasully 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the killer didn't go into Brenda's room, was familiar with the layout of the house, and owned a pair of Asics shoes is enough evidence for me to have no reasonable doubt. It could have been his wife on the computer to creat an alibi. She was in on the idea of taking over the newspaper business.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe but why didn't they realize that they would, of course, be suspected? I never understand this aspect of cases!
@eliza448
@eliza448 2 жыл бұрын
I think she was always under delusion as well...
@PhullyNo1
@PhullyNo1 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re correct maybe she’ll crack at some point and the truth will come out.
@Tindometari
@Tindometari 2 жыл бұрын
It's very easy to use a computer to create an artificial alibi. Apps exist that will simulate normal Internet and other computer activity when you are not present. Hells, for a one-off, you can write a shell script to do it if you speak shell well enough. And if you know how to do that much you probably also know how to sanitize your computer thoroughly enough afterward that *not even the NSA* could retrieve data evidence from it. For those who know how to go about it, this is in fact a cheap, trivial task that takes an hour or so. I know exactly how to do this; good thing I'm not a criminal! (No, I will not describe the method on a public forum -- I'm not interested in handing out tips to murderers.)
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt she would have met an untimely end if Robert had gotten away with this! He could kill five other people to get complete access to Brenda as well as a successful business. His wife, once a useful alibi, would have just gotten in the way of his plans.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
Something inculpatory that was missed here: Robert left his wife alone in the house with the bodies. The house was safe then of course but Robert shouldn't have known that. The killer could still have been hiding somewhere.
@CatsArePeopleToo
@CatsArePeopleToo 2 жыл бұрын
I remember catching that when I watched the story. I immediately thought that if I were the wife I’d have said, “Whoa, hold on. I am NOT staying in this house alone!”
@BonjourCoco1
@BonjourCoco1 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who entered our home following a robbery (while we were out for the evening) it didn’t even cross my mind that the perpetrators could still be there, until the 911 officer advised me to exit the house until the police arrived. So I’m not sure this is evidence of involvement. Nonetheless, I do believe he is guilty.
@CatsArePeopleToo
@CatsArePeopleToo 2 жыл бұрын
@@BonjourCoco1 I can easily see your situation too. But because of the brutal nature of what they found I couldn’t help but wonder why in the world he would’ve even thought of leaving his wife in the house. Even if they weren’t in any danger, then just from the nature of the scene itself.😳
@BonjourCoco1
@BonjourCoco1 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatsArePeopleToo for sure agree to your last sentence without question
@CatsArePeopleToo
@CatsArePeopleToo 2 жыл бұрын
@@BonjourCoco1 BTW, I’m sorry you and your family ever had to experience a robbery, and very happy that you weren’t hurt! Stay safe😊✌🏼
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 2 жыл бұрын
Robert sounds guilty, but as Dr. Grande says seeming guilty and having enough evidence of guilt legally are two different things.
@peggycearnach8034
@peggycearnach8034 2 жыл бұрын
There’s enough evidence there plus he had means, motive and opportunity.
@makingmoneywithmj7752
@makingmoneywithmj7752 2 ай бұрын
Their blood was found in his home.
@jessetheskeptic601
@jessetheskeptic601 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Grande; receiving a notification of a new video always puts a smile on my face. Just wanted to add my two cents regarding the prisoners' reaction to Robert yelling at the elderly prisoner.. While prisoners are not always the best representation of humanity, they have their own code and mistreating the elderly is typically frowned upon, at least according to the people I've talked to that have done hard time.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Has that been many people!?🤔🙄
@lynncrf
@lynncrf 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Christina Randall and Jessica Kent (who have both served time) both say the same about prisoners respecting the elderly.
@countryhippiechick4466
@countryhippiechick4466 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sneaking this video in during my classroom's rest time. Clearly, I'm addicted to Dr. Grande's channel. "Hello, My name is Tami and I'm addicted to Dr. Grande's hypothetical analysis's and his dry wit humor..."🥰❤️
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Is there good addiction? I think maybe!
@countryhippiechick4466
@countryhippiechick4466 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson I believe there is!
@personalsheep1850
@personalsheep1850 2 жыл бұрын
hey Dr Grande, was wondering if you'd ever consider doing a video on "learned helplessness" just a mental health topic I've been interested in lately
@plainjane7276
@plainjane7276 2 жыл бұрын
I took every psychology class offered at two different colleges....I've never heard of that. Fixing to look that up.
@hippopotamus6765
@hippopotamus6765 2 жыл бұрын
I had a narcissistic wife who perfected the art of getting people to " help her ". When she walked up the street one day, asking a young boy would he assist her to lift something. He said "can't you do that yourself?"..she told me he was "just rude". Chuckled on that one ever since.
@lynncrf
@lynncrf 2 жыл бұрын
Looking up the origins of learned helplessness is depressing, but it is a well established psychologist concept. Basically learned helplessness is about abusing somebody so much that even when they are free they act like they are being abused.
@peggycearnach8034
@peggycearnach8034 2 жыл бұрын
He had means, motive and opportunity plus the blood and shoe box. Where is the murder weapon? He probably had ample time to get rid of it later. He cleaned his garage that same day. It seems he was the only possible suspect, even without knowing about the abuse of his niece, which I believe. She is absolutely credible. The police would have a profile for him that couldn’t fit any random attacker unknown to the family. I think he’s guilty in every way.
@mpalmer7800
@mpalmer7800 Жыл бұрын
He deserves the death penalty
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
Since Robert did abuse Brenda for many years, he deserves the prison time he got. It does make sense that he would murder the entire family in order to gain complete access to Brenda and coincidently inherit a successful business. I would think if he'd gotten away with this, Cathy would have met an "accidental" death in the next few years. The guy is a monster!
@davel7014
@davel7014 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming he really did abuse her. Remember, Dr. Grande said she never claimed abuse.
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
@@davel7014 Victims of abuse often cover up for their abuser. Especially if they are close family members. They are embarrassed, confused and scared. Remember, both her parents were dead and she had to rely on this POS to take the place of them.
@davel7014
@davel7014 2 жыл бұрын
@@garmtpug I hear what you are saying, but my question is: If she didn't claim the abuse, the who did?
@MelanCholy2001
@MelanCholy2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@davel7014 I looked it up: it was literally caught on hidden cop cameras. I don't want to keep reading what I looked up, though. Bobby's guilty. Shoot I think his wife was in on it! (The girl apparently didn't WANT to be "touched" by Bobby. _And who can blame her.)_
@grandmabenti8516
@grandmabenti8516 2 жыл бұрын
As per your usual style, your final thoughts on this tragic case are explicit, concise, insightful and aptly portray your unbiased sensitivity. 😊 I will once again thank you, Doctor Grande for not disappointing your viewers
@Cinnamongirl119
@Cinnamongirl119 2 жыл бұрын
As always I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis and breakdown of this case. You manage to add greater insight into a case I’ve heard numerous times. Tragic story! But again thank you for your respectful and interesting perspective.
@mr559
@mr559 2 жыл бұрын
Watching Brenda speak about the case on 60 Minutes Australia, you can really feel this deep sadness in her voice. Bless her friends and school principal for being such big support for her.
@cassandrasuzannelalonde4758
@cassandrasuzannelalonde4758 2 жыл бұрын
Look at your numbers! 889K and counting. Happy to say I have been watching your videos since 40K. You must be doing a lot right.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Serious work ethic, critical analysis of information, careful topic choice, great editing, great engineering skills (acoustic and lighting), calm voice, dry humor, dazzling wardrobe and cacti relocations! In other words the whole deal!🎀
@grandmabenti8516
@grandmabenti8516 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell that he enjoys his work😁
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the most important ingredient!
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 2 жыл бұрын
Such a sad case again. Poor family & officers having to find them/work on scene😣 Thanks Dr G😊💜💜
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
True empathy award.🏆
@peggyrose8812
@peggyrose8812 2 жыл бұрын
This is a tough one! The one fact that he didn’t go in her room means that it was definitely someone close to the family.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 2 жыл бұрын
And no forced entry.
@feiticeiras
@feiticeiras 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the early upload, Dr. Grande 💜
@georgieevans
@georgieevans 2 жыл бұрын
This murder happened in the suburb over from me. Still impacts many around here to this day. Very tragic.
@a24-45
@a24-45 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I dont know what newsagents are like in other countries-- but here in Australia these shops sell a lot of different things for both adults and children. Every inhabitant of North Epping, of school age and up, would have made a purchase from Mr and Mrs Lin at their newsagency. In this case it is not an exaggeration to say that "everyone knew them" and had spoken to them personally, it was the literal truth. I knew someone at work from North Epping, and she said that the Lins were lovely people, and that the community was deeply shocked. No-one could believe that such nice people had any enemies.
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting case and analysis from Grande. Thank you so much.
@Ericbryanmr
@Ericbryanmr 2 жыл бұрын
Can you analyze the psychology of Albert Pierrepoint? He was one of Britains last hangman who executed around 435 prisoners, including 200 nazi war criminals, Britians last executed female, and one of his friends. Despite this, he was apparently always cheerful and discrete and lived to the age of 87, dying in his sleep. So I wonder what was behind his ability to do this.
@rubyharris4422
@rubyharris4422 2 жыл бұрын
Just a guess but perhaps he believed in what he was doing and saw it as a job.
@Ericbryanmr
@Ericbryanmr 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubyharris4422 I think that "believing in your job" rarely extends to executing people, in normal circumstances.
@rubyharris4422
@rubyharris4422 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ericbryanmr it seems reasonable to assume he believed in capital punishment given the position he took and perhaps did not see carrying out executions as something to lay awake at night worrying about. Just speculating!
@firesonic1010
@firesonic1010 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubyharris4422 my guess, is he probably thought he was executing those that were deserving of it, and as such, thought he was doing a good for this world.
@rubyharris4422
@rubyharris4422 2 жыл бұрын
@@firesonic1010 that's what I'd be inclined to think too. If he'd had any qualms I'm guessing they would have kicked in after the 1st few executions when reality hit of what was involved.
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Dr Grande. Hope you are having a great day!
@mymai2792
@mymai2792 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Grande for great work. Much appreciated ❤
@freelanceopportunist559
@freelanceopportunist559 2 жыл бұрын
I used to live in North Epping in the street over from where they lived- Eastcote Ave. At the time I was addicted to scratch lottery, so was a regular customer at their newsagents. Very friendly guy, lovely family. His kids would sometimes be behind the counter after school. RIP
@kelliearnold8498
@kelliearnold8498 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Amazed at all the content you put out. I appreciate your time and dedication. I hope you take care of yourself. Enjoy your family.
@renee1961
@renee1961 2 жыл бұрын
Good evening, Dr Grande. Hope you're doing well! You're certainly working hard! Much appreciated! Thank You.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 2 жыл бұрын
I think for most people, uncertainty is an uncomfortable feeling. We tend to prefer resolutions to situations even if that does not align with the truth. It’s difficult for some people to say “I don’t know” or to not come up with a rebuttal when debating a subject, even when the knowledge about the topic is limited. However, in tragic cases like this one and so many others, the hunger for justice at any cost may be detrimental in reaching an adequate verdict. There have been so many cases where people were wrongfully convicted due to an emotional reaction and desire for closure by the jurors. This is probably a very human response to events which, unfortunately, does not always provide justice. In this case, I tend to agree that he actually did the deed but there is plenty of reasonable doubt. If I was a juror, I don’t think I could come up with a guilty verdict. Dr. Grande, on another note, I think you are an outlier. It appears to me that you are more preoccupied with finding the truth no matter which situation you encounter. That’s a fantastic trait to possess, in my opinion. Well, this review was absolutely brilliant, thank you so much. ❤️
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 2 жыл бұрын
Rejane, he was guilty. He was jealous of the money the Lins were making.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 2 жыл бұрын
@@cottontails9003 I agree, I also think he did it. I just don’t see enough evidence from the legal standpoint.
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 2 жыл бұрын
@@rejaneoliveira5019 your right, ,but the police didn't just consertate on him, they searched all angles.
@joememphis1571
@joememphis1571 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos along with your astute, insightful and attentive analysis are amazing.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Simply Grande!
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Brenda. Wow. Never heard of a judge accepting 11 out of 12 jury votes since that’s not done in the US. I was happy about it though. Must have been torture for Brenda to keep going through trials.
@Teresa-qq2qp
@Teresa-qq2qp 2 жыл бұрын
There were two states that allowed non-unanimous jury verdicts in criminal cases, Oregon and Louisiana, and Louisiana changed its law effective January 1, 2019. So it does happen in the US!
@brianf1132
@brianf1132 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Doc. I just came across your channel and I absolutely love it. Your humor is too much, plus your analyses are very interesting. There is an old case that always intrigued me. It is Dorothy Eady and her claims of reincarnation. Im curious if you ever looked into this? Keep "killing" it, Doc.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Dr. Grande! 🍃🍂🍁 So happy to see your upload but so sad I can’t watch it immediately.😞
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Rejane - It's called delayed gratification! Enjoy!
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson That’s true.😅
@billhildebrand5053
@billhildebrand5053 2 жыл бұрын
Not intended as a false joke, double innuendo. "*_Robert may have struck people the wrong way_*. " Definitely the wrong way when done with a mallet and hard object. Your analysis always strikes me the right way, Dr. Grande, encouraging my intellect, modulating my emotions, and calming my humour and the tendency to find fault. Great Job Dr. Grande, your purple shirt indeed shows empathy with the purple cactus on your shelf.
@brontosaurus6816
@brontosaurus6816 2 жыл бұрын
It’s important to remember that the full information of the trial is not readily available and it is presumptuous to assume he did not meet the threshold for a guilty verdict. This was a very prolonged case and one could believe that that was to obtain all the evidence and not rush. Dr grande I am a fan but I think casting judgements on legal cases with minimal information undermines the criminal justice system. If you look in to appeal courts you would see that they frustratingly slash sentences for the most guilty convictions. Given you do these videos daily there must be a limit to the amount of research you conduct, combined with this information not being as dispersed in Australia, compared to America. Just some ethical considerations given you are not a trained legal professional.
@chloeshmoey3785
@chloeshmoey3785 2 жыл бұрын
Aw yeah baby new Dr.Grande
@jesussaves7973
@jesussaves7973 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your work. And purple shirt!!! 💜 Love it
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!...these murders were brutal, it's easy to see why people wanted someone held accountable, emotions must have been running very high.
@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244
@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 2 жыл бұрын
There is an American counterpart called the Villisca axe murders Though there were no survivor's and it has never been solved
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 2 жыл бұрын
@@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 Thank's. had never heard of that case.....just looked that up and it's even worse.
@lupita3689
@lupita3689 2 жыл бұрын
Man you keep pumping quality content like this and I’m thinking if I should quit my job and watch your videos full time.
@breannajefferson912
@breannajefferson912 2 жыл бұрын
But what about him leaving while Kathy was making the emergency call? It just seems odd to leave her there
@timothyfiero6694
@timothyfiero6694 2 жыл бұрын
I see 1 million subs in your future very soon! I love your content! Thank you sir!
@Mountlougallops
@Mountlougallops 2 жыл бұрын
Well done mate! Cheers 🍻
@user-dl7mq4qj4d
@user-dl7mq4qj4d 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone noticed when it comes to a crime in Australia..it always seems botched up or like circus in court. It worries me that the cops are so incompetent ...its only this case...there are so many!...its like a kangaroo court..and the poor aboriginals..God save them
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
That's probably because the straightforward cases don't make for interesting videos.
@Blissfulnessence
@Blissfulnessence 2 жыл бұрын
Australia. Kangaroo Court. i see what you did there lol
@user-dl7mq4qj4d
@user-dl7mq4qj4d 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen it happening in front of my eyes. The stupidity is eye watering
@peggycearnach8034
@peggycearnach8034 2 жыл бұрын
The police got it right, there’s enough evidence.
@christinemareeyoung
@christinemareeyoung 2 жыл бұрын
@@peggycearnach8034 agreed
@hedleybutler9706
@hedleybutler9706 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell from the way you cover certain cases that you really love your family Doc🥰
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Dr Grande. This case, has always been polarizing. But in reality, he was jealous of the Lin parents. I believe he did it ,I've never heard of Brenda being assaulted. Great analysis . Thank you Dr Grande.
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble 2 жыл бұрын
I think this guy's guilty as sin but the notion that the judge "would accept an 11-to-1 guilty verdict" is terrifying.
@rabbit9905
@rabbit9905 2 жыл бұрын
SAME! I was so appalled when I heard that. Idc how guilty someone is, we have a justice system for a reason
@DoggyHateFire
@DoggyHateFire 2 жыл бұрын
I know, that sounds awful. People will say it's ok because he's guilty but they don't stop to think that this could happen to an innocent person. Also, I think there should be some limit to the number of times the state can try a case unless they have compelling evidence.
@AwfulDog1
@AwfulDog1 2 жыл бұрын
It is acceptable to have 11 to 1 as the chance of having someone who disagrees out of 12 people is high and if they can’t convince anyone else why they feel that way it wastes a lot of resources and is distressing for the victims. Sometimes it is a control or personality problem or a person has other reasons for disagreeing so the law can accept 11 to 1. Not unusual by at all.
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble 2 жыл бұрын
@@AwfulDog1 To be clear, I have no issue with convicting someone on the strength of an 11-1 jury verdict or, for that matter, a mere majority. My issue is that - at least as Dr. Grande seemed to lay it out - that the judge changed the rules in the middle of the game. Having said that, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning: that an 11-1 verdict is acceptable because a 12-0 is too difficult is just another way of presuming a defendant's guilt, as if to say "The defendant is guilty so let's not waste time and resources."
@AwfulDog1
@AwfulDog1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidDeeble not sure that 11/12 guilty is the same as not wasting time and resources and presuming the person is guilty...by overwhelming majority they are! I didn't notice what you meant by judge changing rules in the middle of the game...probably my concentration went.
@siouxd799
@siouxd799 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr, from a Subscriber in Australia 🇦🇺 🧡
@zero_bs_tolerance8646
@zero_bs_tolerance8646 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Doc.
@kenn1936
@kenn1936 2 жыл бұрын
I recall this case. Thank you Dr Grande for doing this case, such a shock for the one girl that survived by being away on a trip. sicko Brother in Law!! having to live with your abuser must have been awful for her!
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
For me, if he's actually guilty, stupid brother in law!
@m.f.richardson1602
@m.f.richardson1602 2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting. Peace 💕🇺🇲
@lorigirl65
@lorigirl65 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine, based on humankind's inhumanity to fellow humankind, there is a plethora of cases to pull from. Thanks for all your hard work Dr Grande!
@greeneyedmimibostian3013
@greeneyedmimibostian3013 2 жыл бұрын
Love to you and your family !
@drdaverob
@drdaverob 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo almost 900k subscribers!
@miekehugo1712
@miekehugo1712 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized Dr Grande upgraded his filming space. Congrats on the beautiful studio/room :)
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
All one can say is how enthralling must the cases be that the background went unnoticed till now!
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson Hey Mrs. T. Where you been? 🤷‍♂️
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Like very much that you notice short absence!😘
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson 😘😉👋💐
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 2 жыл бұрын
Man your channel is blowing up!
@skunkrat01
@skunkrat01 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I love you Dr Grande but as others have pointed out, you missed a few things here. And he only had two trials because of the jury not being able to reach a verdict, the others were false starts so I don't think it's fair to say he had 4 trials, which would definitely be not cool. That SOB is guilty as hell and I'm glad he's one of the inmates in Australia for whom life really will mean life. Brenda can't even find solice in her aunt's side of the family now because they blame her for her abuse and him committing the murders to get more access to her. After she lost her whole family, he just made her lose more and more. Don't know how she could ever trust someone again.
@jus2bin738
@jus2bin738 2 жыл бұрын
Purple is a Holy color
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 📹
@kimaparks2592
@kimaparks2592 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve known about this case but not about the evidence against the uncle for the murders. Thank you for shedding light on that
@augustineayres7195
@augustineayres7195 2 ай бұрын
We don’t call a news stand a news agency in the UK. A shop selling newspapers, along with sweets and other goods, is called a newsagent’s or paper shop. A booth selling papers somewhere such as a station is a newsstand or paper stand or sometimes just a kiosk.
@aircastles1013
@aircastles1013 2 жыл бұрын
This should have been longer, no offense Dr G, but there were a quite few things not mentioned here, which will no doubt be brought into the comments if not already. Which is worse, a guilty murderer being free due to legal failure (or success if you are their defence lawyer), or an innocent person going to prison? This is why we need Wonder Woman’s lariat of Truth or whatever she calls it. Imagine!!! I doubt anyone here in Australia who followed all the news after this event thinks he was innocent.
@lavernec7812
@lavernec7812 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis ! Can you analyze the case of Gloria Williams and Brian Coulter in the case of them abandoning children for months and one found dead?
@alexweiner7861
@alexweiner7861 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Doc, would you consider analyzing the Korean serial killer Yoo Young-chul as featured in the Netflix documentary The Raincoat Killer? I found the case very interesting and absolutely brutal, but they really didn't get much into his background or potential profile :(
@ekkekristo
@ekkekristo 2 жыл бұрын
good request!
@eliza448
@eliza448 2 жыл бұрын
Culturally Irene wouldn’t be able to raise Brenda alone as a male would need to be head of the household of all the children and Irene. He’s guilty. Brenda came out on 60 mins australia and spoke of the years of abuse sustained by this monster.
@DottieMinerva
@DottieMinerva 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the trauma she endured. She lost her whole family in the snap of a finger and had to live with her abuser.
@Ceerads
@Ceerads 2 жыл бұрын
They were Australian. Aren’t women “allowed” to be head of household in Australia? Yes, they were Asian, too, but no matter how misogynistic their ethnic culture was, Australian freedoms for women are paramount.
@doryfishie2
@doryfishie2 2 жыл бұрын
The culture part is not true at all. That sounds like some Western supposition of what Asian culture is like. It's nice to have but not as necessary as you might think. Single mothers exist across Asia.
@AwfulDog1
@AwfulDog1 2 жыл бұрын
I know the family. They were of Chines origin and migrants to Australia. They were definitely male led culturally as many middle aged people still are, including my household. this doesn’t exclude the women having education or jobs but is a cultural fact still found in the West too,. I am Australian and a medical professional and I my husband takes the lead. I have input and we consider this an equal relationship. Yes, I also brought up two kids by myself for ten years but my English is excellent as a native speaker and I am from this country. The Lin families were neither of these although they could speak English well. I thi k we have to remember that for centuries male led households worked well and still do.
@AwfulDog1
@AwfulDog1 2 жыл бұрын
I also find it ridiculous that you think such a cultural dynamic is misogynistic. There are many reasons why a male led family can work and it is nothing to do with hating women (!!!!) or women being down trodden. I suspect you are just a different generation and you need to woke up!
@serendavies7375
@serendavies7375 9 күн бұрын
I can't believe that Brenda is the only surviving member 🥺💔
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 2 жыл бұрын
A very clever way to find employment.
@TheBffTwins
@TheBffTwins 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Doc. Curious what state your in? Love your work, by the way. 👍👍
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Delaware
@noecarrier5035
@noecarrier5035 2 жыл бұрын
It's not "News agency" it's "Newsagents" -- at least it is in the UK. Not sure if the term is different. "News agency" makes it sound like they're journalists. Just thought I'd point that out. Big fan, keep it up!
@IMakeBeautifulThings
@IMakeBeautifulThings 2 жыл бұрын
lol this kept distracting me.
@shojinryori
@shojinryori 2 жыл бұрын
I think both can be used, in Australia at least. In the yellow pages online “news agencies” are a thing, as well as “newsagents”
@a24-45
@a24-45 2 жыл бұрын
@@shojinryori speaking as an Australian, you and Dr Grande are both correct. The premises where an Australian newsagent conducts their business is called a "Newsagency" and its usually printed on the sign outside the shop, e.g "North Epping Newsagency" and it's how they are listed online. But "the newsagent's" is just a more casual way for Australians to refer to the shop. If Australians wanted to refer to a Press or Media News Agency (the journalists you mention), they would probably use its brand name instead.
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps they were murdered by a disgruntled customer who couldn't get a particular magazine at their stand?
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
Family Circle?
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 2 жыл бұрын
Who had a key to the house?
@renee1961
@renee1961 2 жыл бұрын
This is Heartbreaking!💔💔💔💔💔
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
People say killers have no soul. But in Robert's case, having a sole caused most of his problems.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
He put the sick back in Asicks.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
And we even comment on our own comments!
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson Without nestedness and resursivity, life would be very shallow indeed.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@iswhoisyou
@iswhoisyou 2 жыл бұрын
Hammer Time!!!!
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@sarama4521
@sarama4521 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning. Do you have any thoughts about the case of Nelson Cruz and Judge Shawndya Simpson?
@gayleschultz8383
@gayleschultz8383 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see Harvey Two-Face back on the side table.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Do the peanut gallery realize that many of the cacti have names?
@ElvenLogic22
@ElvenLogic22 2 жыл бұрын
Addicted to the Grande 💪
@dolorestroeller4734
@dolorestroeller4734 2 жыл бұрын
How the heck does someone bludgeon 5 people with a hammer and they find NO blood or weapon evidence affiliated with the assailant Come on 🤦‍♀️🙉
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean. He didn't cut himself and disposed of the weapon.
@jigzlamadrid3404
@jigzlamadrid3404 Жыл бұрын
someone definitely know perfectly the house....how could other stranger do it by closing breaker and enter the house without breaking the door...robert has the key and can move around the house without lights.....
@ludiprice
@ludiprice 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting explanation on the case, I'd not heard of it before, and I always enjoy your videos. Just have to point this out though - 'mortified' means 'embarrassed' or 'ashamed', it doesn't mean 'shocked'. I hear it used wrongly all the time and it really bugs me! XD
@francineg2758
@francineg2758 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande I would love if you could do an analysis of the show “The Maid” on Netflix.
@mushroommcfarmer1766
@mushroommcfarmer1766 2 жыл бұрын
I sincerely appreciate Dr. Grande's sense of humor and especially his occasional "dad jokes." Having said that...I do not understand or appreciate the good doctor's satire over the human response of being shocked at witnessing a verbal assault of an elderly man. Also do not appreciate his following comment to the effect of everyone in jail claiming to be innocent of everything. It is almost as if the doctor is making light of, or even disputing, the fact that innocent people are incarcerated every day.
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
It's not only Anger that made this guilty verdict, but also the Fear of not knowing who the real culpable could be.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget all the evidence against him.
@charismalorelye4516
@charismalorelye4516 2 жыл бұрын
Doc, would you be open to maybe once a week making longer, more in-depth video for a serial killer series? 30 min to an hour?
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
If it ain't broke...
@clarissa8477
@clarissa8477 2 жыл бұрын
The police have surveillance video of him cutting up a shoe box and flushing it down the toilet? Was the camera inside the house, inside the bathroom? I wouldn’t think that would be a legal police tactic...
@teambeining
@teambeining 2 жыл бұрын
How did not one of the 5 not be able to call for help or run away? It doesn’t make sense since they were so badly beaten. That would take a bit of time.
@httran9098
@httran9098 Жыл бұрын
I felt the same way as Dr. Grande. How could one person kill all 5 people in a bloody crime scene like that and had nothing on him? No murder weapon, no bloody clothes/shoes, no evidence whatsoever in his car ... Also, by not killing Brenda, she would inherit her parents' home and money, Robert had NO financial gains. Thanks for raising your reasonable doubts.
@lynnnguyen4499
@lynnnguyen4499 11 ай бұрын
im pretty sure later the police found blood stains in his garage in which the DNA belonged to the five victims (as the suspect claimed to be cleaning his car in the garage after the murders took place). The police also placed a camera in his house and found out that he tried to disintegrate the shoes (presumably the one he wore when he committed the crime scene and it also matches the shoe size that was collected by the police.
@lynnnguyen4499
@lynnnguyen4499 11 ай бұрын
Brenda said that before her parents & brothers were murdered, she was, on different occasions sexually abused by her uncle (the suspect) so he probs killed the Lin family out of jealousy and also had some personal gains from it by sexually abusing Brenda…
@kashinimeyo
@kashinimeyo 2 жыл бұрын
“The verdict was achieved through emotionality not rationality” is highly patronizing to the fact that a judge, someone who specifically specializes in law and reason, found it acceptable to decide on a 11-1 jury. The judge found that the one outlier was actually the one being irrational.
@Tampafan33
@Tampafan33 2 жыл бұрын
Actually if you weren’t so ignorant it was proven the crown had spoken to this judge prior and they pressured to get it done. But hey a lot of ignorant people in this world
@reinamasaya898
@reinamasaya898 2 жыл бұрын
hi, Dr.
@sodoh4920
@sodoh4920 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the accused's computer was used during the time of the crime does not mean he was using the computer. Someone was using it, perhaps his wife to give him an alibi.
@bonnie7684
@bonnie7684 Жыл бұрын
He did it.
@FR0STYF0X
@FR0STYF0X 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Interesting and funny as usual. Just a small point. It is newsagent, not newsagency, in England anyway, so I assume also in Austrailia.
@a24-45
@a24-45 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Australian. Dr Grande is correct. Both terms are used in Australia, in slightly different contexts. The official business name (as used by nearly all newsagents in their online phone listing and signage) is Newsagency. e.g North Epping Newsagency. But people say "I'm off to the newsagent's", not "I'm off to the Newsagency". I'm
@AwfulDog1
@AwfulDog1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the newsagent is the owner of the news agency. I am Australian too.
@kevinconnor3187
@kevinconnor3187 2 жыл бұрын
The deceased’s sister supporting her obviously guilty husband is reprehensible. She gave them a place to live and this was how she was repaid; by the business end of a hammer.
@ellaeadig263
@ellaeadig263 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't defend him. Brenda herself has said the whole reason he did this was to force her to live with him so he could continue the abuse. He was obsessed with her.
@rayross997
@rayross997 2 жыл бұрын
Please cover the killer of MLK, James Earl Ray?
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 2 жыл бұрын
Disturbing the peace of inmates by screaming at them is clearly beyond redemption.
@emilymcgregor8721
@emilymcgregor8721 2 жыл бұрын
would you analyze the ongoing case in Houston right now of the abandoned children found in an apartment with the skeletal remains of one of the siblings?
@thors1fan140
@thors1fan140 2 жыл бұрын
I have no words to describe how I feel about that case. The step monster who killed that little boy would post about his food he’d be eating/ preparing while those three kids were literally starving while living with their brother’s corpse. People suck!😞
@emilymcgregor8721
@emilymcgregor8721 2 жыл бұрын
@@thors1fan140 I'm absolutely sick about it as well. I didn't know about him posting about his food. I dont usually feel such extreme hate for strangers I see in the news the way I feel about these two. He deserves worse than death imo. Mom was using the kids to collect government checks while leaving them in the worst conditions imaginable, and I just can't wrap my head around it.
@mingmangmung3051
@mingmangmung3051 2 жыл бұрын
Bludgeoning 5 people takes a lot of rage though. The only plausible reason is Brenda’s dad confronted him somewhat. Still there’s so much circumstancial evidence I would not have voted a guilty verdict. This is also clearly a case of police/ legal pressure to find a culprit
@cydelegs
@cydelegs 2 жыл бұрын
No similar crimes before or after this spree killing. That particular family was targeted and nothing stolen. The guy groomed and manipulated a sexual relationship with their daughter using coercive control, she remained silent for many years after the crime. It’s not the first time one assailant has killed multiple sleeping victims. Yeah, he did it.
@Redspeciality
@Redspeciality 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think that “no witnesses to the crime” would be considered exculpatory evidence.
@stt5v2002
@stt5v2002 2 жыл бұрын
Difficult case. It seems to sit on the edge of reasonable doubt, which is rare. It is quite difficult to commit multiple murders face to face without leaving much evidence. If that evidence is not there, it raises some questions. There seems to be important missing details. The nature of the relationship between Robert and Brenda, and victims' response to it seems very relevant. Was this an ongoing relationship? What actually happened? What did Brenda have to say about it? Were threats made between the parties? These questions play heavily into potential motive. I would speculate that perhaps Brenda's parents were threatening to report Robert's crimes or force an end to an ongoing illegal relationship. Robert chose a time when Brenda was not present and the motive was either to eliminate a threat or to take revenge. Brenda would have knowledge of these details but yet they do not seem to be available.
@MinMeows_Booty
@MinMeows_Booty 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I don’t think it was the screaming that shocked the other inmates 🤣 It was the disrespect towards an elderly person that most likely stunned them.
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 2 жыл бұрын
I just heard of a murder-suicide allegedly involving 2 juveniles and 2 adults in Colorado Springs. It appears the house where this event occurred is huge and in a sprawling subdivision of large lots. The supposed adults were owners of a gun store. Maybe in a few months, Dr. Grande can analyze this situation and the people involved. In a nutshell, I'm going to guess the "law-abiding" perpetrator who had a gun (or guns) for "protection" used the gun to solve his/her problems, whatever they were. Or one of the "juveniles" just hated his/her family.
@Caleb_le_chifre
@Caleb_le_chifre 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE Do the William Miller 911 Phone Call
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