In all reality , he’s the customer and he didn’t get what was specced . If superpaint doesn’t offer eggshell and the customer specifically requests eggshell…. It’s obvious isn’t it ,you pick another line that offers eggshell . The painters choose to pick a lower end paint that didn’t meet the spec.

As a customer my take is - if you ask for eggshell pay for eggshell have it written in contract, eggshell. The painter then decides to ignore this and do his own thing. Some other paint is used, then it's almost certain that a lower grade and price paint is being used. So the contractor can save some money at the customers expense.

Tbh the root of the problem is really just poor client management. Messing up instructions is one thing but going against them without communicating why is really poor on their end.

For reference, Linus ran one of those collegepro/studentworks painting franchise things for a summer or 3. He ran it, not just worked for one.

So, I don't know a ton about paint, but as someone who works as a contractor. If my client constantly uses a term like egg shell, I would only buy a paint that says egg shell in the name. If a particular line of paint doesn't use that name, then it isn't going in their house.

I have sold paint for a long time. I think what he was getting at with the popcorn ceiling is that there is a type of it that water base paint for lack of a better word melts the popcorn so it falls off unless you prime with oil or shellac base primer first. It was more common back when oil paint was still a common thing but all the products have changed drastically since. Lot's of painters I know still always say prime an uncoated popcorn ceiling with oil first to make sure you don't have this reaction. Also may be a difference in products between countries as policies on ingredients are different country to country.

Whether he is right about pain finishes, what infuriates me is the painters telling him, "no, that is not the pain we're using" then going ahead and painting it anyway. Just listen to the damn client, its not like he wasn't obvious about it.

In Quebec (and perhaps the rest of Canada), eggshell was once called velvet, and satin was indeed under eggshell. I often had arguments with older clients that remembered times when satin was matter than eggshell/velvet.

I just love the fact that there is just a mountain of knowledge about the mundanest of things. Recently bought a new mattress and hearing the person in the store talk about them so passionately was very fun. Now I found a entire KZfaq channel dedicated to painting. And I’ve heard of entire communities that are interested in garbage trucks and washing machines. Every time I learn about the existence of an other niche I get very happy. :)

Not sure if it changes things, but his house is a remodel of a house from at least 1990, probably earlier, so the popcorn ceiling is old. Idk enough about painting, but you mentioned that old ceilings are different. And yeah, his house is super nice. That’s why he’s so pissed it wasn’t done how he wanted.

Ive been a huge fan of LTT for a while but was intrigued when I saw this pop up in the recomended. I know nothing about paint other than ive done a few rooms between mine and my gfs old parents house so when I saw his paint rant i didnt even consider half the stuff he did. Thought it was aweseome to see your thoughts on his experience and to see an objective POV. Great work. Learned a ton

6:13 Actually, he said that because he bough an OLD house. His house comes straight from the 80s and he's not changing the finish of the popcorn ceiling because of the cost of removing it due to potential asbestos.

LOVEEEE the lttstore call out. Editor is a true LTT fan.

I feel like you are correct that how they dealt with touchups is reasonable IF they'd at least made a decent effort to clean up at much as they could before the put down the first coat. It sounds like from how Linus described it they just completely skipped doing any spackling prior to the first coat and just wanted to get done with the job as fast as possible

Super Paint satin is a really dull satin, I'm not surprised there was a mixup. I haven't used it in years, but I remember it would almost register as a matte sometimes. It's a fairly old school vinyl-acrylic, so your washability is basically non-existent for anything below a semi.

The customer asked for a specific product multiple times and it is even in the documents. He even asked the person in charge that it become a MEME. So I believe he have done everything to communicate what he wanted and it was just ignored. He can't stay there like a supervisor.

People possibly not knowing what a popcorn ceiling is anymore makes me feel old and sad

I had this in my recommendation after watching the panting rant. I have to say this is the type of content I enjoy. I like watching things where I learn things. Keep up the good work.

I'm pretty sure Linus's house was built in the very early 90's ( 30 years ago ) and I think I remember him saying the sellers told him the ceiling popcorn was an oil-based treatment, so he would probably try to cover it with oil-treatment to get adhesion and prevent bleeding.

You can tell this guy is a true painter because of his after work bar fight black eye.

I'm not a painter, but I do work in software where we deal with clients. One thing that I think all professionals should look out for is a client asking for a specific thing over and over again. They may be convinced they need thing X when really they want traits A, B, and C which can better be accomplished by something other than X. (Similar to the "XY Problem") From my perspective the painters linus used failed by not going "hey this guy seems to really want something particular, lets sit down with him and actually figure out the root of what he wants." Its possible Linus was deadset on eggshell in which case, fine, do what he wants. But I feel like better communication would've made everyone happier.

Think eggshell and satin have different meaning from the us to Canada, because satin here in the uk is more of a dull shine, but a lot less durable to eggshell, which is what Linus was I think trying to get across. I don’t understand how most imperfections weren’t spotted after primer, if there’s that many imperfections, the plasters should be brought back in. it isn’t like one or two spots on a wall, it was 50+

Looks like the algorithm gods brought me to this strange place called professional painter KZfaq channel. It's great to know these things!

I feel his pain about touchups after 3 coats. This is why if you ever do new construction, you prime everything ,paint ceilings and wait for all the other trades to get done before you go and finish the walls

learned more from this video about painting than anything else in my last 20 years. great video, awesome feedback. Im an avid LTT viewer, so I hope they see this.

Great video. I have a feeling this is because the time linus painted was literally sometime around 2008-2009, but as you pointed out there have been significant advancements in chemical manufacturing since then. However, and a pretty big however, the general trend about durability linus makes is correct and still holds very true. The paint they used was probably just some low tier paint. Overall, this feels like a communication or outright failure of communication problem. Also crappy paint. Cheap paint is always the bane of my existence when it comes to projects. I learned my lesson long ago when making models and painting roadside cabinets.

I just want to say great job replying to almost every comment from what I have seen. Thank you for making such an informative video

the oil paint thing i believe is because its an old build house, so still uses the popcorn material that is oil based.

Thank you for clearing up that mixup, we appreciate your knowledge of painting...will continue watching to gain more knowledge for the business. Watching from The Bahamas

This Video suddenly being recommended to everyone, i see... good thing cause you deserve it... also i just find the fact that as Linus said eggshell multiple times I wouldn't get anything else even if it were essentially the same thing but named differently.. not atleast before I ask and comfirm if it's okay

I had an old HVAC guy explain "the customer is always right" means to me once (no, not "bend over backwards on everything and give any customer willing to scream cuss words in your employee's ear a refund and a giftcard") and I think the eggshell thing encapsulates that. The customer is always right because they're the ones that are both living with the result and paying for all of it. It's often wise for them to listen to someone who's been doing it for awhile, but their name is the one on the check and the entire job doesn't happen unless they're comfortable writing it there. Someone should have written "EGGSHELL PAINT" in red marker on every piece of paper related to this job because he is clearly hung up on it. That said I think sometimes businesses need to just also say no we're not taking this job on.. If it's too far out of the system you're comfortable with for all your guys or the job is just eating too much into your margins, that "no quitters" mentality can get you in trouble.

Omg thank you, I was so confused when he was going on and on about how Satin was matter than Eggshell

Wow I learned so much about paints. This is super helpful cause I am currently renovating the house

Really appreciate the insight! Out of interest, how are you recording your audio? It feels like there's a strange phase effect between the left and right channels - is there more than one microphone in the mix? (Sorry, trained as an audio engineer and it feels noticeable to me but totally a small detail and doesn't take away from the content)

I used to work for a cabinet manufacture and we had people tell us our finish is rubbing off but you can tell around the door handles, they must have had rings or long nails and they eventually rubbed through it themselves. Everything is an abrasive if given long enough time. Even just your bare finger.

So I work retail at a hardware store and also watch LTT. I actually love that you did this cause I had questions and wanted to make sure that I wasnt entirely losing it.

This was a really fair analysis of everything that Linus brought up, and hey, I learned some things too, so that's always nice

I'm pretty sure linus on multiple occasions said that the sheen is not the issue. The ability to scrub it was the issue. You can get stuff with high sheen and it can still not scrub well.

Ok, English is not my 1st language but from what I understood it was not about shinines of the paint but about it's hardness. BTW. About the spots... isn't it just easier to darken the room and put strong light next to the wall at a sharp angle? It highlights every small imperfection. Like this is how painters do it in Europe.

I agree 100% with your explanations, specifically when you addressed the touch ups after first priming coat. In the drywall and paint industry, it's termed "prime check".

Ah! remember seeing this clip when the video first came out, yea man, super satin is a little higher sheen compared to cashmere eggshell, but when asked questions, we usually just tell them satin/eg are the same and the difference is determined by the type of product. That being said, we always ask if the homeowner specified a specific sheen and is very set on it for instances just like this... Also, I hope the painters didn't recoat with promar 400 egshel, that would have been hilarious and a disaster at the same time!

I'm 5 months past you posting this video but thought I'd pitch in on a point or two. I have a background in automotive paint and have inspected different sheens under magnification. I am just assuming it's similar technology for latex paint, but essentially all flattening agents do is add a level of micro texture to the finish. So something like a Magic Eraser is essentially sanding at a grit in the thousands. I imagine they're engineered to sand/scrub at a similar sheen of "eggshell" or "satin". As for the double coat finish. Typically in painting cars their is leftover material from each job. We tend to mix those together as a "ground/coverage coat" before putting the final color on. It is a cost saving measure as to use what could have been wasted material. Could it be possible they had a two coat finish in mind but used a cheaper product with a slightly different sheen for the coverage coat and had planned to use the premium product on the final coat?

One thing to keep in mind is that other than being out of the game for a long while, Linus is also in BC Canada. (This is mostly about nomenclature and definitions of some industry specific lingo.)

I believe asbestos was used for popcorn ceiling texture until 40+ years ago. I'm not sure if that's why oil based paint would supposedly be used on the ceiling instead of latex.

I used behrs new top line “dynasty” eggshell for my house, it’s the shiniest eggshell I’ve ever seen. Theres just so much variety between paint brands and their lines of paint within them. Not every sheen is created equal

Idk what they change in paint in the states but Linus is pretty spot on. I avoided being a painter but as a site General who usually hired on the painters and bought the paint, I can say Satin is BARELY more shiny then flat with eggshell having the first noticeable difference. After that you only really see paint shops stock a Semi-Gloss which is so extreme you'd never want it on a wall. So across all the jobs I've done in Ontario and the East Coast you usually get 3 options, flat/Matte or Satin, Eggshell and Semi Gloss. Rarely will you get a full line of Flat, Satin, Eggshell and semi and rarest of all is not to have Eggshell but the SuperPaint lines or others like that I have never seen a Satin I'd want on walls. We have returned SuperPaint specifically after showing customers how it would perform by the sink.

LTT viewer here. Loved the video. I heard you say latex paint a lot and was wondering if that’s the standard paint used nowadays? I’ve got some family members that are anaphylactic to latex and was wondering if this paint was a risk to them once dried. What’s the concentration of latex?

Part of the problem is that it took something like 8 months to get most of the reno's done. I think they were partially living at both houses still. They were getting pretty sick and tired of not having the house done, and then that happens. Kind of the straw that broke the camels back. Thanks for putting out this video, will try to mention it to Linus on WAN show .

6:10 Just a guess, but Linus probably worked in a lot of older homes where the oil paint concept was very much applicable.

When I first started painting 28 years ago I too was told you need to paint oil over oil. I no longer believe this. Painted many acrylics over oil trim and never had any issues.

I’m pretty sure that his house and ceiling finish are both quite old and in Canada, so that might affect the whole popcorn ceiling thing

Heya, was just looking for a reaction to this, and I'm at the start but wanted to ask, is your eye alright?

Thx for the thumbnail Linus, now all I can think of is the Robot Chicken skit where the kids is saying "no loud noises, no loud noises!"..... I'm so going to hell.

sherwin canada uses a different sheen system for their paints here in most cases from my experience (I am a painter my self) most of sherwins products do not have an "Eggshell" sheen option it only comes in satin, however, iirc (and this could have changed been mostly industrial last few years) only a few of sherwins products had an eggshell option with the majority only having satin. the other thing Ill note is here in BC where linus lives sherwin was usually more a 3rd teir paint till they bought out general paint so linus is likely more used to the general paint line of paints and their sheens more so then sherwin.

out of curiosity did you watch any of his vid's that show off his house because judging by the style of it I would say it was built late 80's early 90's possibly

Big LTT fan, got recommended this video. Can't believe I just watched a nearly 30 minute video on paint, but it was a great video.

I think the algorithm is about to blow this video up!

To be fair, I think Linus called the "wrong" paint satin, but based on his and your descriptions it seems he was talking only about flat.

The customer requested eggshell - give them eggshell. Simple.

If you paint latex over an oil based paint it peels off in about a year faster in a wet area like bathroom or kitchen. Ive done it... sucks you then need to scrape it all off and re do it. It was also the colour changing latex so I'm sure that didn't help

Hey there, I was just recommended this channel after being recommended the Paint rant again. I was wondering how someone could learn how to get into painting at home and everything? I have quite a few areas in the home I'm renting that need some paint, plus the house I eventually want to build I want to paint myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

I think when he was referring to scrubbable he was referring to more of a washable rather than scrub he was quite on a rant. This was a remodel old house and a little bit of a big house. I suspect the texture of the wall when painted did not meet the expectation of texture more so than what the can said, I myself have walked up to a wall and said it's gonna get into a mess later they use the wrong kind of paint. I was waiting for somebody to do a reaction video. I recently assisted on a project where the guy doing the drywall insisted that after it was painted he could see the issues on the wall and then he could put plaster on the wall and smooth it out and then paint over it again needless to say we did a lot of painting and plastering and painting and plastering and the wall was no better than it should have been. And then there was the giant divot where the drywall was completely not flat for almost an inch and a half difference. And this guy his response was oh you'll never see that with the big giant map on the wall well guess what the homeowner wasn't very happy. Yes that was the project I should not have worked on.

The scrubbable v. wipable and sheen thing is a thing I didn't know! I think I had some of the same misconceptions as Linus 😅

I think Linus used to run a paint business not just work as a painter but, after watching this, it sounds like a good chunk of his expertise on the subject is outdated

Nice video! Your replies were very thoughtful and informative, it can become a hassle to call out larger channels in any form because they have so many fans to back them. This was well prepared and produced.

The house I used to live in in Germany just had plaster walls. You could do whatever you wanted to them, the color wouldn't come off and if you got dirt on it, which was pretty easy because it's such a rough surface, you could just scrub it off and it was pristine once more

Lol Sherwins bullshit of using satin & eggshell interchangeably got him. Almost got me if it wasnt for you recommending duration matte. What would you recommend to wipe a Duration Matte wall down with? Just got walls painted with it and curious whats best to use when i have to get a mark off it.

After painting apartment buildings for so many years, I would never choose flat, satin or eg-shel, especially if I have kids. semi-gloss is the way to go in my book no matter what, and it touches up so much easier than a flat or satin.

I'm a total layman and I'm from Central Europe so whatever we have is gonna be obviously very different products from what you have. But I always noticed how in any public buildings, schools, hospitals, etc. there was always paint that was super shiny, but looked awful (subjective). However, it was absolutely scrubbable and it was the reason why it was used in such places - to make it easy to clean. The problem was that, despite being subjectively ugly, they all (regardless whether scrubbed whilst cleaning or not), they would eventually start to flake off the wall, either peeling off if it was softer, or chunks of shell if it was stiffer. And once a tiny piece came off, that would start a domino effect with moisture entering the wall and making the rest of the paint gradually fall off the wall, making it look really terrible over the years. In the meantime, paints used at home that didn't create this milimetre--thick-or-more layer on walls, they would be matte and look amazing, but the slightest amount of water would ruin the colour. Which is also kinda why almost nobody ever uses paint at homes, everyone uses waterproof wallpaper. It's still not that very well scrubbable, and prone to scratches and such (especially if it's a thicker wallpaper with that milimetre-thick cushiony layer, and you have cats... your walls become all giant scratching posts lol). Obviously I have no idea how outdated my ideas here are, I'm 34 and I'm talking about my lifelong layman experience. But yeah there is this curious cultural difference how Continental Europe is much bigger on wallpapers than North America and the UK are, and the things I described about paint - I just wonder what would be your thoughts from your professional and from-the-other-side-of-the-pond perspective lol

5:10 A bit more context. He has said multiple times that the house he bought had super fancy decorations and installations... for 30 or more years ago. So it's possible that that ceiling popcorn is that old

i know his house is over 30 years old and from when he first moved in there was clear signs that it hadnt been updated ever.

I didn't think that the gloss level was the thing linus was mad about. He was especially talking about the level of resin content in the specified paint, which helps with wiping stuff of the walls - he has little kids, and therefore I can absolutely follow his train of thought here. While the satin paint may have been the same or similar in the gloss/sheen department, he didn't care for that, he only cared for it to be easily cleanable. And that was not offered by the product he used, and that was the chart he was referring to - not the gloss chart you showed in your video, that's something completely different. And yes, he is right about the amount of particles being suspended in the liquid, when you add stuff that produces a "harder" surface, you lose some strength in the paint, and may need another coat or need to paint more precisely / stir it up very carefully so the color will be even along a larger surface. That's something even DIY painters should have learned after their first wall with a product like this ^^ And yes, over here in Europe we can get durable / washable wall paint. Also, there's some really, really durable wall paint, p.ex. from Alpina, that gives you crazy effects and is super-easy to clean. Also, never saw contractors here do a second coat of paint. I know it from painting in the automotive world that you do a "dust coat" of a darker color to spot imperfections after a body repair and fix those, buy you do that after a thin coat of primer is applied, but not after a coat of actual paint has been used. Painters who paint walls over here though, they use heavily pigmented paints and do one coat AFTER they fixed any holes or imperfections in the walls (and as I was understanding him, it wasn't just pinholes, and the drywall hadn't been changed out everywhere, so there were holes from hanging pictures etc that just got painted over in the first run and filled up afterwards). If you get a professional painter here they will fill, sand and smoothen the surface first and then paint it in one go. Then again, in Europe we hardly use drywall for interior walls, since most buildings here are made out of stone, so the materials used are bound to be differente anyway.

When I was originally watching Linus' rant, I got super confused 'cause I work at a Home Depot paint department - not the most sophisticated paint store around, but still - on the east coast of Canada, and satin's always been shinier than eggshell. Our store's sheen charts from Behr and Glidden go: flat > matte > eggshell > satin > semi-gloss > high-gloss. I'm guessing that the shininess probably wasn't as regulated back when he was a painter, and maybe it changed from region to region.

Not a painter or contractor, but I've been super interested in Linus' new home, and this rant was simply iconic. Thanks for teaching me something new! Very informative and entertaining. Take care!

Linus' rant about the differences in sheen and scubability between the different types notwithstanding, I think his rant is valid in that the painters didn't put on the paint he specifically wanted and paid for. To me, it doesn't what the painter recommends or says is better. To me, all that matters is what the homeowner wants. The painters can try and educate the homeowners on the different types of paints and the sheens and the durability of each one. But in the end, it's up to the homeowner to decide what they want on their walls in their house. Also, the whole doing a primer coat and paint coat BEFORE filling the holes is bit a dumb, too.

Satin is NOT shinier than Eggshell, it has a finish pretty much identical to the material it's named after. Maybe the US really does label their paints differently by finish but I find that hard to believe

I'm glad I came across this vid because you have a point that yes he may have painted professionally but industry in many trades change in how things are done as their understanding of what they're doing grows and technologies improve. Linus is a busy person so I think it's just a lack of communication. Mostly, doesn't mean as mentioned there are genuine mistakes have been made on both parties.

Your video appeared in my feed as a tech viewer. I watched it.. it was interesting... tbh I am not likely to watch another video... just because this isn't an area I am interested in.. but this was an entertaining video. So I shall Subscribe and forget :)

This is really interesting. Around me, Sherwin Williams is where the contractors who build.cookie cutter houses get paint - and it's not good. Usually in bulk, and cheap. It didn't occur to me that, like other places, they would have more than one line of paint 🤦‍♂️ when reading consumer reports, the best paint for fewest coverage coats, best durability, is either Behr or Valspar depending on the year. I tried to paint with a Sherwin Williams once, and it was like water compared to a Behr paint - but I got it from a home store. I bet it was a lower quality line. This video has convinced me to give them a try again, next painting job, because more than once my wife has really liked colours from Sherwin Williams :) I will be back here for more painting info. Thanks for this!

You said bm select is a good eggshell. On there specs it’s. 25. On gloss level. Amd emerald satin is 20. At the 85 angle for both. But you said satin is way to shiny. Are these numbers not right. Or am I missing something ?

i feel like the tape wouldve went over a bit better if so many of the things hadnt gone wrong for him on that job. if the right color stuff was used on the walls and the ceilings probably wouldnt have noticed the tape at the end of it

How do I find painters that will pay attention to detail and actually patch/fix wall imperfections… I hired a crew when I first bought my house and besides the imperfections I asked to be fixed they didn’t do anything else… so I have a ton of spots that look terrible…do I just have to be an a-hole and complain and make noise because I’m not getting what I paid for…

Specifically on your point about the imperfections on the wall at the end, he specifically said they used tape to cover the imperfections and if my memory serves you can actually see bumps coming off of the wall in one of his videos. The thing I hate most is when professionals listen to a video like this, Indian get an obvious detail wrong because they think they know better when in reality they're assuming that everyone in the industry does everything the same as they do.

It took me till watching this video to realize that when he was saying eg she'll, he wasn't talking about a paint color...I feel like an idiot

In UK, Eggshell paint was oil based, and a pro choice back in the day, as water based emulsion not so good as it is now.

Im a painter. For linus who is capable of painting he should love flat/matte paint. If something goes wrong on the wall you can spot prime and repaint without flashing

I live in Canada, we have a provider in Quebec and the satin finish is lower sheen than eggshell. I know for most its more but there are exceptions.

I’ve seen this the LTT video before and I am late to the discussion about it but I work at SW and yes super paint doesn’t come with a label saying “eggshell” but if you saw the Sherwin-Williams sheen chart Super Vassar Brother here showed it said “eshell/satin” referring to them as synonyms of each other in the world of sherwin Williams. As employees we are taught they are the same in sherwin products and a few of our product labels say egshell in some of our lines but in others they say satin, its more like “oh this is a fancier product, lets label it as egshell cause it sounds fancy, but super paint over here can be labeled as satin” while according to the sheen chart, they are the exact same thing. When a customer comes in asking for super paint egshell, in sherwin terms, that is the exact same thing as saying super paint satin, (which super paint only comes in satin) so we will hand them a can of super paint labeled satin. And then they might stroll on in hours later demanding a refund that we gave them the wrong sheen, we walk them over to our sheen chart, it says “egshell/satin” being the same and then they’re like “oh shit”. Granted now I do a bit more explaining and say companies sheens are different and behr/benjamin Moore egshell is closer to our matte and kind pre-mention that but there have been times it causes a mix up. I think the contractors probably walked into a sherwin, asked for super paint egshell, they were handed what we are trained to give when someone asked for egshell or satin in that product, and so on and so forth. I think the contractors should’ve told Linus that SW is that way when he saw the super paint label satin cans but yeah. Also different products in the same sheen might show up different like one products satin versus another products satin so that’s something to keep in mind as well.

Not wanting to walk on eggshell(s), I feel like this needed a clip from South Park, buddy.

Good video. I'm not a professional painter and even I knew some of what was said was wrong. However, I think one thing many of the commenters might not factor in his is live streaming a computer build, probably already having to deal with a bunch of other stuff earlier in the day, so likely some of it is just a bit of distracted brain fog. Additionally, and you've covered this even if some of the comments don't get it, if the customer asks for X, explicitly says don't use Y you have on hand, and you use Y...well, thats a problem. Saying the customer asked for the wrong thing is the wrong answer. Communication, as you said, would have solved it all

I think part of his irateness is that the new house is his first 'nice' thing that isn't directly related to his work. It would be annoying to deal with as a contractor, but I get it.

I mean, If you want a really tough, scrubable surface on the walls, They make a product that would probably work, its made to take a hell of a beating in its intended application. Automotive bedliner, The shit they spray in pickup beds. Problem being it comes in relatively few colors. I think anyway.

i think the oil paint question he is referring might be a regional thing. we have oil paint for interiors in europe, might have them in canada but not in the usa. robbiolac is a big seller of these products over here.

A few points from someone that watches LMG for tech, but is currently embarking on a learning process for fully repainting painting a ~50 year old 3 bedroom house... The oil based ceiling paint over his oil based popcorn ceiling. I think his new house is about 30 years old, and he did get out of the trade almost 20 years ago, so your explanation regarding how the industry has shifted towards latex / hybrid sounds like very valid debunking of L's point, though I think he's got at least 2 rooms with fireplaces. I've one and it was a 'Parkray' for maybe 15 years before being an electric fake fire for about 10. The eggshell / satin thing... I can see again that L might be out of touch with those gloss, duration or latex, but as the customer, it's what he asked for, in the documentation.

Two things. His thinking on ceiling paint is just old-school. The oilpaint on my porch causes any latex paint put over it to Crack and look terrible but you can't even buy that kind of oil paint these days. And second yes paint is scrubable. He was not talking about shine but resin content. Resin is what hardens up and let's you scrub the surface. You can get it shinier or more flat but the more resin the more shiny it tends to be. The eggshell super shell I have on my walls can take a sponge and it just dries back the way it was unless you scrub like you want to sand it. (In all he's thinking if he had done this back in the day and isn't up onto modern much more forgiving paints.)

Ohhhh love these content. Will Sub to your channel more. I wanna paint stuff around the house since I kinda am now the homeowner.

80 previously unnoticed imperfections in a small area is common?

From my experience eggshell and satin are almost identical finishes generally...brands differ. I find them interchangeable. Very little difference between eggshell and satin. Even the sheen chart listed eggshell/satin as the same. Some paint brands offer both and some just one of the two. I am not sure exactly what he meant when he said a few drops of water on the wall ruined it. How ? And very correct on the scrubbable / wipeable comment. I would LOVE you to do a video comparing the different paints from Sherwin Williams. I would especially like to know the differences / advantages of say Super Paint / Cashmere/ Duration etc...all of the acrylics. Client recently had me use Cashmere first time...I thought its was great. I am going to look into that Regal Select...thanks ! Side note: If he had not seen " satin" on the paint can and only looked at the dried painted walls he probably would have thought it was eggshell...just a guess.

If the original coat was painted with oil-based paint, then you would need to apply a shellac-based primer for bonding purposes? Or use oil-based paint to recoat the old finish. That's my understanding.

I love KZfaq for niche stuff like this