This interview makes you realise the poor quality of politicians today.

Everyone laughs at Truss but it is scandalous that she and Johnson continue to get an allowance after performing so badly in their jobs

Truss did seem rather immature and not ready for prime time.

Truss always reminded me of Blackadder’s “Queenie” character.

They don't make 'em like this anymore - superb

What a delightful interview . David Owen’s warmth , humour and honesty great to see.

Not behind what he said about the left wing of the Labour party. We need it to keep Labour from going full Tony Blair and prevent corporate lobbying. People may not agreed with Corbyn but kicking him from the party based on Tory heckling is pathetic

It's a strange thing, I think especially in British politics, that those who have stepped back from the frontline, are revered more in their absence than how they were treated at the time.

This man offers such profound yet subtle wisdom if you simply listen and think. I would very much like to hear more of his thoughts on all things: global politics, grandchildren, partisan politics, compromise, humble lessons learned. - Friend from America

The last line in her autobiography is about how she STILL got to be Prime minster.

Truss and Johnson voting against their Government: Nothing of course to do with Envy. That he is patently doing a better job than either of them could. ## Great to see / hear David Owen, even if a reminder that none of us is getting any younger. Am proud that one of my daughters has followed him into medicine.

He said of the strikers, ''They will not face that we do not have the money'' without asking what happened to the ''Track and Trace'' money.

And Boris wasnt acting like a king? Flaunting rules as he liked

The lettuce is the classic self-absorbist who cost the 4 UK nations approx £800 million for everyday of her tenure....and then after weeks of fizzing produced a 4000 word piece on how she was actually right in circumnavigating normal fiscal process then taking a punt on black... or was it red. Personally I don't think she knew but she did know she wanted to be the ERG, IEA, United States of Britain poster queen for all to behold. Like many in the cabinet she should be stripped of all her assets to help make up for the unbelievable losses they've inflicted on everyone and every public service.

I don't remember this being said about Boris, who definitely acted like he could do whatever he wanted, gave orders and just expected people to somehow fulfill them

A great mind.

He seemed a considered and reasonable man until he revealed his stance on Brexit. And, as usual, is unable to admit that it has been a catastrophic failure. Although given his background as a GP and MP, I suppose he has no real idea how it has affected and will continue to affect those less well off.

re 19:18 Oh, Tony Blair. If there is anyone where power clearly went to their head, it is him. Unfortunately, he continues to act in that delusional & perilous manner today.

More interviews with Owen and men/women like him.

What a great interview!

Is she still going to collect her pension for serving as pm for such a short time?

Interesting! I clearly remember a BBC Newsnight broadcast on the eve of the Iraq invasion in March 2003, where Owen defended the US/UK invasion of Iraq against the Tory, Lteon Brittain. Also, if in 2003 the UK could act independently of the rest of the EU to wage war on Iraq, I no not see how it might still not act on Ukrain free of any EU constraints were it still a member of the EU. Owen is no doubt a highly intelligent and competent politician but one who is not above hyprocricy and hubris himself. Moreover, listening to some of the BBC staff I knowl, Owen was one of the more unpleasant and ungracious politicians to have to deal with in regard to arranging interviews for him.

David Owen, has been an ex Foreign Sec for a very long time

I'm a Yank and I noticed it.

Scathin about Liz Truss...wow

What I hated about Liz Truss is her big smiles for the camera. Demonstrated a completely undeserved confidence and accomplishment. S Someone who managed to get the job of a surgeon despite not being qualified would have been punished, but not taking the reigns of the country when totally unsuited for the job isn't.

i have never fully understood differences between liberals and social democrats. Where are they placed on the political compass? Lord Owen's insights on mental state of leaders (hubris) is very interesting, and more focus should be placed on this, especially with the likes of Putin. But i think some of Owen's logic is fuzzy, obviously with Brexit (he is condradictory between EU and Nato) as well as social democracy.

Decent ideas, but wrong on Brexit.

Loving how Dr Owen can still trigger the right

May not agree with his thoughts,however a good man,a quality conviction politician now there’s a thing.

Owen seems to have a fair bit of ‘hubris’ going on himself which is why he is deflecting attention on to others.

I'm surprised and disappointed that a man of his intelligence and wisdom is still in favour of Brexit.

do we really need physical, naturalistic, or scientific evidence to know that power corrupts? not really, David.

Don't think Owen has ever admitted -or would ever admit- that his precious brexit was ever a bad idea. Sounds like his own hubris blind spot right there.

Everyone has the same amount of history.

10:00 - good line.

I think I smell a touch of Hubris in his comments

The kind doctor split from Labour to form the SDP which kept silver snatcher Thatcher in power for 13 years. Cheers doc🤪

Who better to talk about the arrogance of power than Dr Death!

Doctor Death should be an expert on hubris.

Narcisistas : se les van los humos a la cabeza. 🤡

We will not be caught with no clothes on!

Liz Truss was described as acting like a Queen, as opposed to Boris Johnson? 😆

He's a very naïve politician

"left" is a subjective term. The labour party was founded to make British society fairer and more equitable. That could be defined as left. The NHS and the welfare state are socialized achievements that could be described as left.

If he’d stayed in the Labour Party like his friend Roy Hattersley he may well have become leader after Kinnock, won the 1997 election and we’d never have had Blair and the disastrous involvement in Iraq.

Is that how you remained so sane David? By never having any power.

He got Rhodesia completely wrong and helped ruin the bread basket of Africa.

The problem with a hypothecated tax for the NHS is that you'd just end up with a lot more highly paid managers & not much in the way of front line staff.

Enjoying Brexit then David?

I Switched off I’m afraid when the Anti Corbyn rhetoric started up 😟..I guess he’s he not aware of “The Labour Files”.. Corbyn is the least hubristic person in politics today

'I am the longest serving MP in Plymouth history'. The host's correct response ought to have been 'Congratulations!' because it is a notable achievement and Lord David is clearly very proud of this achievement. Bad interview technique.

"The problem with the Labour Party is the Left". Lord help us, Owen's a smart man, but obviously impervious to a basic understanding of where Labour came from and what they're supposed to be about.

All leaders must be checked to prevent power corrupting their ideology. Checks and balances like USA system helps, but ultimately we need many reforms like: Direct democracy Referendums Online voting secured like banking Mandatory voting with financial incentives Voter Information Applications to align voter policy preferences with candidates. Democracy education in school with 16 old voting minimum age. Young candidates RCV Ranked Choice Voting

We don't live in a democracy. We live in a limited or constitutional monarchy. The PM can now exercise a number of monarchical powers. And monarchs often behave autocratically and arbitrarily.

A completely misleading title from a passing comment which is a pity because those interested in the life of David Owen should really listen to this.

A man of honour with a sensitivity to the difficulties faced by the common man. Qualities quite rare in our present government

"It occurs in all walks of life." Yes: including, notably, medicine. And I've seldom seen a man so pompously brimming with self-satisfaction as this fellow himself.

It would be very interesting if we gad tapes of the first Margaret Thatchers cabinet 1979-81, in session or in infornal or committee meetings reflecting on the disintergration of the Labour opposition and the 1980-1 seperation if the gang of 4, Jenkins a superb home sec and probablly Wilsons heir apparent in the late 1960s, Shirley Williams really in my opinion a wrecker of a quality British education system, and patron of irresponsible immigration, disarmament and feminism, daughter of Shirley Britan in reality Shirley Williams was the patron saint of the modern destructive entryist left politician, a classic Merkel, Helen Clark, Piblebski type and far more left and far less able than Barbara Castle, Gillard or Julie Bishop. Rodgers I don't know anything about and assume he is nothing. I imagine Thatcher would simply have seen Roy as past anything but wining and dining at Brussels so the issue is what did the Tory Cabinet think of Owen in 1980. Another David Lloyd George or Churchill. It would seem incredible now, but my impression is that Hailsham, Gilmour, Walker, Pym , even Carrington might have well seen David Owen as the coalition leadership replacement for Thatcher in a more moderate Tory Liberal coalition. I think they did wrongly and but for the Falklands war folliwing the invasion of the Falklands in March 1982 it might well have eventuated.If the Argentine generals had waited another two months defence cuts by May 1982 and a different lineup on the day in the HC would have nade the possibility of a succesful task force even more difficult. And by 1983; the last generation of 1960s RN officers, Hermes and Invincible would have gone. I think David Owen was ambitious enough to think ihe was still a PM in future in 1982. David of ciurse us a great shapeshifter as lijw many others he ignored the facts about Mugabe and 😢 Milosovich.Right till their last cogerent days in the HC Micheal Foot and Harild Wilson regarded David Owen as their most disloyal servant to Labour, UK orl Russia???? In retrospect of course Owen is regarded as a failure, as a man of 'insufficient genius' to seize the moment and go either way and seize the day. Within Labour by the early 197Os als today there was little genuine centre dynamic talent who would ever have broken away with the gang of 4, Starmer still leads a party and candidate list of repositioned Hackney councillors, which means both parties SW candidate selections must be conrestable before 1/2005 and I do loathe and contempt Tobias Ellwood who is and stands for everything British politics has rejected since the 17C, One Nation, the Bible, Fundamentalism, Foreign policy subverted and made by the secret service, a defence policy made by brought politicians awarded commisions and rotten borough seats to influence strategic and defence policy subverting the constitution and legitimate interest not to say any democratic veto

"they were still there!") after all those years, like the old Tory right wing is still there, because they still (ideologically) represented the beliefs & opinions of enough people, to matter.

And Sunak acts like his the King of gloom and doom.

Its so refreshing, whatever your political persuasion, to listen to an experienced politician who came from a generation where you didnt have to work out how much lies they were telling. I doubt we’ll see such interviews from the current crop of Tory horrors in years to come. To be fair most of them will be in prison anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

I live in Germany i Lived in England,Hes an old school English Gentleman,WHO is living in the past, He is living in La la Land ,Britain is on fire But He is doing fine,But the normal Person in the street are suffering,He Had His Brexit,now live with it, with Boris British upperclass,

Lord Owen, labour renegade, split the parliamentary party, started a rot, rotten politician

So what do you. Have To say to yourselfs Now Looking back at what you Helped Created under ANC Rule ,, it's n Nothing less than a Criminal Lawless. REGEME

I have a lot of time for David Owen, his heart seems to be in the right place and he isn't afraid to praise people who may not exactly be on the same branch of politics as him, but having read some of the comments I think if you are well educated and speak in the right way people will just believe you. He seems to make a lot of points, like talking about the Liberals or the EU without actually explaining his objections to them (he did with the EU, but seemed ignorant or what the EU is, probably due to the echo chamber he is now in and believing the UK can just go it alone as when we had an empire). As far as the EU is concerned if doesn't "rule" 29 countries, all it does is administer the Single Market and Custom Union. They don't have any say in our NHS, education, immigration, taxation (apart from not undercutting other countries in certain areas relating to the Single Market), policing, public transport, so much more. For what we had for giving up some sovereignty we got trade free, red tape free access to the biggest trading bloc in the world. I'm also staggered that he thinks that only 37% of the directorate only voting to leave, and for every version of Brexit they were fed, he thinks it's undemocratic for parliament to scrutinise the bad type of Brexit that was negotiated (not that there was a better one ever going to be possibly), or I assume the public not to vote on the final deal, especially since he thinks party members not to be able to choose their party leader or PM, but thinks MPs should. It's just a bizarre interview where he wasn't questioned hard enough on what he said, which is a bit failing in modern political interviewing these days.

So what if Liz Truss acts like a queen? So what if Boris Johnson acts like a queen? So what if King Charles acts like a queen? As long as they don't start blowing me kisses 😘😘😘, I couldn't care less. Stop that! Stop that, I say! Who was that female impersonator? Was it Charles 🤔? Was it Boris 🤔? Was it the worst female impersonator of the lot 🤔? Was it Liz Truss 🤔?

sadly looks like power went to your head too sir .. stay kool nice dr

HUBRIS is such a great word ."It,s only hubris when you cannot prove it "

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