LIVE: Boyfriend Cop Murder Trial - MA v. Karen Read - Day 8

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12 күн бұрын

Karen Read is accused of driving drunk and hitting her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, before leaving him to die in January 2022. Read is now facing several charges, including second-degree murder for the death of O'Keefe. Read claims that she is the victim of a massive frame-up by state and local police.
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@WaldenEmerson
@WaldenEmerson 10 күн бұрын
The judge interrupting testimony and ending court abruptly is so insane to me. 😮 wow
@kharmon10
@kharmon10 10 күн бұрын
Tuesdays and Thursdays are half days and the Judge has other cases and obligations. It wasn't "abruptly" to the jurors or attorneys. It's been this way the entire trial.
@IAmALawyerToo
@IAmALawyerToo 10 күн бұрын
Crazy! I was a litigator (retired now), but I have never seen that done or experienced it. Momentum is huge esp on cross. Breaks are planned in advance or judges ask lawyers so the breaks are properly timed for the flow of questions.
@16MedicRN
@16MedicRN 10 күн бұрын
kharmon, lol, not true. She doesn't have other cases in the middle of a murder trial. Court is just lazy on a regular basis.
@ScottM94
@ScottM94 10 күн бұрын
@@16MedicRN thank you so much! So many people think that she’s hearing traffic tickets or something during this major murder trial.
@kamvt1972
@kamvt1972 10 күн бұрын
Has this court put in a full day’s work even once during this trial?? Geez. And what the heck is with just abruptly ending in the middle of a line of questioning??
@zbobo5
@zbobo5 10 күн бұрын
Why is the Defendant lawyer not allowed to ask about communication that was being had with Albert Family?
@slavetothebritishempire6403
@slavetothebritishempire6403 10 күн бұрын
Because the state is corrupt!
@moriordan85
@moriordan85 10 күн бұрын
Objection your honor, this is bad for my case
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
The Judge is related to either the Albert's or the McCabe's. She is the Auntie making sure Karen is found guilty for the murder her relatives committed!
@lucyduncan6236
@lucyduncan6236 10 күн бұрын
Because it's hearsay. You can't repeat what someone said. They have to testify themselves.
@beachgirl468
@beachgirl468 10 күн бұрын
@@KayInMaine really? Is that true or are you just being sarcastic?
@alexandracorbo4681
@alexandracorbo4681 10 күн бұрын
The judge ALWAYS wanting to end/disrupt absolutely RIVETING testimony JUST WHEN WE START GETTING SOMEWHERE FOR GOODNESS SAKE!! I want to pull my hair out by the damn root with this judge!
@destinythompson4248
@destinythompson4248 10 күн бұрын
I do not like this judge at all..
@drmartina6872
@drmartina6872 10 күн бұрын
Why?
@CrazyMaryJo
@CrazyMaryJo 10 күн бұрын
@@drmartina6872she is blatantly meddling. And biased. Unprofessionally impatient.
@destinythompson4248
@destinythompson4248 10 күн бұрын
I'm neither sided, I don't know where I stand.. but she is clearly biased to the prosecutor. It's ok for the prosecutor to ask something but when the defense goes into detail on the same question and the prosecutor objects, she allows the objection.
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 10 күн бұрын
The speed at which she immediatelly says SUSTAINED gives the impression she's anticipating the state's objection.
@CrazyMaryJo
@CrazyMaryJo 10 күн бұрын
@@hectornegron9155 except Lally never states a reason for objections, which habitually is so not kosher.
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
THE JUDGE (Auntie who is related to some of the prosecution's witnesses!) NEEDS TO BE DISBARRED FOR HER BIAS ALONE!!!!
@TXFireChick1
@TXFireChick1 10 күн бұрын
We should all report her to the state bar...that way they will have no other choice but to intervene and do something.
@Cat_herders
@Cat_herders 8 күн бұрын
Which witness?
@cdub169
@cdub169 9 күн бұрын
I have some friends and distant relatives who are police officers. One of the strangest things to me in this trial so far is. You have EMTs, Fire, Police, lights, etc, all going on outside your home, and a man's body, a woman in a frantic situation yelling and crying. You also know who these people are. You're a police officer, whether local or out-of-town cop, but it's all happening in your front yard. You never go outside to see what's going on. You never come outside to help and see if they need any assistance. I'm not a cop, and if this was going on outside my home, I would go outside. A cop's intuition is that much more typically. My point is unless you are hiding something or not getting involved intentionally. So strange!!
@MelodyMaker-im4tw
@MelodyMaker-im4tw 4 күн бұрын
Are you saying there was a fight or argument between O’Keefe and Read? If yes, maybe they’ve seen it all before and didn’t want to get involved. Who knows. But to suggest they knowingly left their friend and colleague in the snow to die is too far of a stretch.
@rickc3456
@rickc3456 3 күн бұрын
You are delusional. They are talking about when read was hysterical when the cops were there. And yes as a retired LEO i do believe all the individuals in the house done this. ABSOLUTELY
@scott-uh5es
@scott-uh5es 10 күн бұрын
I think all the witnesses should be on trial for DUI.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
Karen 𝒊𝒔 on trial. (But for something else.)
@doragreen3887
@doragreen3887 10 күн бұрын
@@mollykillarney2419 actually part of her charges include driving impaired. the male witness did say he walked home though
@JazzyScat
@JazzyScat 10 күн бұрын
​​@@doragreen3887 but that other guy from the first bar who did an Irish exit drank 6 beers and left to pick up his kids at 2 different places.
@prettypauline6758
@prettypauline6758 9 күн бұрын
@@doragreen3887 of course he said that! Because in 1994 he killed a student while driving drunk!
@roxdarmurray6634
@roxdarmurray6634 4 күн бұрын
Numerous cops, ATF agent etc. don’t need to worry about getting a DUI. Now we know their “brothers in blue” will cover for them, even if one of their own dies. With a corrupt judge & prosecutor too.
@michaelcalland801
@michaelcalland801 10 күн бұрын
Trial was supposed to go until 1pm today. Right in the middle of cross examination of a prosecution witness that is getting cornered in another lie the judge abruptly ends the day at just 12:30 ! What happened to “ Wasting Time” ? Now this witness has to come back to court tomorrow when she could’ve been finished today if the judge just let defense finish their cross. Seems to me that the judge threw witness a lifeline to get her story straight.
@travel_with_Pat
@travel_with_Pat 10 күн бұрын
that judge is clearly corrupt. after a day or day i said to myself, calm down will see later...but yeah she's clearly corrupt. she strike every reality check questions from the defense
@mimhahn
@mimhahn 10 күн бұрын
This was absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. I can't believe the judge gets away with so much obvious bias in this case. I wonder how many innocent people are sitting in jail because of her meddling.
@turtlecay
@turtlecay 10 күн бұрын
Mistrial
@geechis8883
@geechis8883 10 күн бұрын
She's helping the prosecution so much it's unbelievable
@Jess023
@Jess023 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I don't understand why the judge doesn't just let the witness end and not have to come back. It's ridiculous and I would be mad if I had to come back for a few extra minutes the next day
@turtlecay
@turtlecay 10 күн бұрын
This trial is a joke! It needs to be thrown out!
@THEEJuror13
@THEEJuror13 10 күн бұрын
I’ve never seen such a disrespectful court when it comes to the jurors time
@gigis6790
@gigis6790 10 күн бұрын
Due to her unprofessionalism, I wondered how this judge was given the opportunity to preside over this case ...now I think I know.😒
@junkman8742
@junkman8742 10 күн бұрын
16:45. START Day 8. 20:35. Prosecution calls Chris Albert 1:00:20 Defense Cross Examination of Chris Albert 1:38:22 instructions from the judge on evaluating digital evidence. Moving into text messages between witness and Officer O'Keefe. 2:11:50. Prosecution Redirect of Chris Albert 2:16:40 judge calls break 2:41:45 court resumes. Defense request side bar 2:42:45. Prosecution calls Julie Albert 3:11:08 Julie Albert confirms receiving the 6 Donuts 3:17:55. Defense Cross Examination Julie Albert begins. 3:39:00 Defense Cross Examination ended abruptly. Jury dismissed by judge. Judge calls side bar and dismisses six minutes later.
@TMxo
@TMxo 9 күн бұрын
Thank you I appreciate comments like this I leave timestamps all over the place
@roxdarmurray6634
@roxdarmurray6634 4 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@beckyz5694
@beckyz5694 10 күн бұрын
WHY IS THE JUDGE STOPPING THE DEFENSE DURING A STRONG MOMENT OF CROSS?? She is CONSTANTLY interrupting the defense, It really seems like she is biased too! These are questions and answers the jurors need to know! And why does she keep cutting the day so short??!
@pattypalumbo5512
@pattypalumbo5512 10 күн бұрын
Tuesday & Thursday are short court days for this entire trial
@TMxo
@TMxo 9 күн бұрын
I feel like she wants people to rest when things get too heated. She is respecting the mental health of those affected… she knows how hard those benches everyone is sitting on are too 😂
@sandrabecht4489
@sandrabecht4489 10 күн бұрын
judge is shady. helping the state all the time
@yogabee2222
@yogabee2222 10 күн бұрын
Is she being paid off?😮
@Chrisje674
@Chrisje674 10 күн бұрын
you are delusional the judge was anti prosecutors the day before yesterday ....... sorry but you're grasping on nonsens .... watch again LOL
@aldon725
@aldon725 10 күн бұрын
@@Chrisje674 rubbish you clearly have not been watching the trial or know anything about the history between her and defence team who petitioned to have her removed for her blatant bias. Facts
@drmartina6872
@drmartina6872 10 күн бұрын
She’s not allowing witness badgering and other ridiculous straws the defense is grasping at. That’s all.
@CrazyMaryJo
@CrazyMaryJo 10 күн бұрын
@@yogabee2222doubt she is being paid off. But her history, relationships, and loyalty are clearly informing her bias. Appalling to watch .
@alyciaesposito9013
@alyciaesposito9013 10 күн бұрын
If I’m the O’Keefe family I’m really starting to have questions about who killed my loved one 😵‍💫
@MegaJordan1980
@MegaJordan1980 10 күн бұрын
Definitely. I mean he was an angry cartoon character that was killed because he got angry people were on his lawn. Riveting stuff
@Lee-BrooklynsFinest
@Lee-BrooklynsFinest 10 күн бұрын
Im still waiting for any evidence proving she purposely killed this man...
@Anna-cx4tg
@Anna-cx4tg 9 күн бұрын
The charge is 2nd degree, she's not accused of doing it intentionally.
@chrissyf798
@chrissyf798 9 күн бұрын
Same. Not one thing yet!
@Danikpei-ve8dw
@Danikpei-ve8dw 10 күн бұрын
Petition for a better judge 😐😒🙄
@brendanorton5732
@brendanorton5732 10 күн бұрын
I have never seen/heard a judge interject so many times on behalf of a witness, as I have at this trial. I honestly think she’s making things worse for the prosecution. She’s MAKING this look like a cover up. JMO.
@doragreen3887
@doragreen3887 10 күн бұрын
She’s acting like a prosecution lawyer
@yellowsubmarine7073
@yellowsubmarine7073 10 күн бұрын
Because it is a coverup imo
@lucyduncan6236
@lucyduncan6236 10 күн бұрын
The defense attorney is asking questions that are inappropriate and he is skillfully doing it so the jury will hear it. It is a tactic of the defense.
@karoleegregerson7600
@karoleegregerson7600 10 күн бұрын
I feel bad for Okeefe family. By this time they have to wonder what really happened to their son and brother. Reasonable doubt for sure. No search of the house where their son on lawn where he was found dead. Red solo cups no shoe.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
the cop said he didn't have PC to search the house....with a body in the yard!!! He actually said that in front of the jury😆
@andiebear17
@andiebear17 9 күн бұрын
I’ve been wondering what his family thinks at this point. I feel for his Mother. The loss that his family has had! It has to be unbearable. This whole situation is bizarre and scary because this could happen to any of us.
@Anna-cx4tg
@Anna-cx4tg 9 күн бұрын
It's not complicated considering she completely cut out any communication with them the moment he died. Speaks for itself.
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 10 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for Miss Read and for John O'Keefe's family. For Karen (and her family) bc she's facing life in prison for a crime the state has shown no proof of and for the O'Keefe's bc they may never find out what really happened to their son. Can't imagine living their lives from now on thinking whether that person who says hello every time they see each other and they probably consider part of their family is the real killer of their son and at the same time probably hating Karen for what they were told she did.
@Indiartworks
@Indiartworks 10 күн бұрын
News flash....2nd degree murder is NOT life
@geechis8883
@geechis8883 10 күн бұрын
My heart aches!! She's never been aloud to grieve
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 10 күн бұрын
@@geechis8883 She can't even smile a bit bc somehow that would make her guilty of this crime.
@adrianneschaefer2622
@adrianneschaefer2622 10 күн бұрын
@@Indiartworksdepending on someone's age it very well could be. Adam Montgomery just got convicted of 2nd degree murder and got 45 years. He's 34, that's a life sentence.
@beachgirl468
@beachgirl468 10 күн бұрын
Who chews gum when they testify in a trial that's gained a lot of notoriety and is televised???? Weirdo, LOL...........🙄🙄🙄
@janelle5862
@janelle5862 5 күн бұрын
Right!! I just commented about this.
@r.g6170
@r.g6170 10 күн бұрын
this case is going to remain unsolved. because there is serious doubt with Karen. and they will never invetigate the cops. and the cops messed up the crime scene. so no. i dont see this case getting solved. sorry for the victim's family and the victim.
@Murphlind
@Murphlind 10 күн бұрын
Hopefully the Feds will uncover the truth
@mikeholden4868
@mikeholden4868 10 күн бұрын
sad but truth
@drmartina6872
@drmartina6872 10 күн бұрын
Messing up crime scene does not equal conspiracy between an entire towns police and fire department
@soude85
@soude85 10 күн бұрын
@@drmartina6872 Did you even watch the trial?!
@denisepagan612
@denisepagan612 10 күн бұрын
I think the fbi is watching this trial and will use it in their investigation. I think they could be busted
@britt8489
@britt8489 10 күн бұрын
Judge needs to be removed
@jamesoliveri91
@jamesoliveri91 10 күн бұрын
NONSENSE! Judge has done NOTHING to warrant such a ridiculous claim. And that’s not how trials work.
@bridgetives359
@bridgetives359 10 күн бұрын
Please 🙄 She has a strong command of the courtroom. I guess that’s threatening for a whole bunch of people because it’s constantly being complained about.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
@@bridgetives359 judge is a crook.....her brother represented the witness that was on the stand today when he ran over a guy and killed him.......grounds to recuse but she refused......which will later come back to bite her....guaranteed
@carlitobrigante6304
@carlitobrigante6304 10 күн бұрын
The prosecution doesn't give any reasons for their constant objections.
@cyndilagasse991
@cyndilagasse991 10 күн бұрын
judge told them not to give grounds
@Indiartworks
@Indiartworks 10 күн бұрын
They aren't allowed to...there are no speaking objections!
@CrazyMaryJo
@CrazyMaryJo 10 күн бұрын
Judge cut off defense cross until tomorrow of last witness just as he was closing in on her “I don’t remember “ regarding Proctors. Breaking defense rhythm. But not before he scored 3 major 🔥 points.
@junkman8742
@junkman8742 10 күн бұрын
Every day
@junkman8742
@junkman8742 10 күн бұрын
She's a HELICOPTER JUDGE
@ScottM94
@ScottM94 10 күн бұрын
Auntie Bev is as CROOKED as they come
@NickIndy78
@NickIndy78 10 күн бұрын
Chris needs to stop the damn sniffing. Shows he’s nervous and it’s annoying enough that the jury will think he has something to hide. Shady dude.
@kristenscholz4893
@kristenscholz4893 10 күн бұрын
I was looking for this comment! Totally agree!
@user-rt2gr4iz2n
@user-rt2gr4iz2n 10 күн бұрын
He definitely sniffs something
@letmework6254
@letmework6254 10 күн бұрын
Is it a drug addiction? He does it mostly when he’s upset though.
@wls1020
@wls1020 9 күн бұрын
Probably a coke head
@SERVINGtheTEA
@SERVINGtheTEA 9 күн бұрын
That’s what happens when you take the powder before testifying 😂
@mimhahn
@mimhahn 10 күн бұрын
WHY IS THE JUDGE SABOTAGING THE DEFENSE!? She interrupted a perfectly smooth going cross and stopped court EARLY. She needs to be replaced, this is RIDICULOUS.
@TuesdayGazette
@TuesdayGazette 10 күн бұрын
The defense was not following the rules laid out. It's their strategy to push info out there knowing it will be sustained.
@MeliSierra-fw7cf
@MeliSierra-fw7cf 10 күн бұрын
You’re absolutely correct!
@starsalways7922
@starsalways7922 10 күн бұрын
She is terrible. Watching from the beginning of this video she shows up like she thinks she's a beauty queen, swaying back and forth...constantly fidgeting in her chair and breathing heavy into her mic...what the what?!?!
@IAmALawyerToo
@IAmALawyerToo 10 күн бұрын
At some point, it will become an appellate issue. It’s her courtroom, her rules; but she is not permitted to disrupt the proceedings in a manner that detracts from the party’s ability to prosecute or defend. She’s been way too active (like referees not allowing players to play). Not allowing the attorneys to state reasons for objections already risks appellate review, and now she’s shutting down questioning in the middle of - & not to enhance the flow of presentation or for the efficient use of time & resources; indeed, it’s very possible that the witness being examined could have finished today. But, in not even bothering to inquire, the judge has done what she has admonished the lawyers not to do & the witness will need to return tomorrow! As for not following “the rules” - that’s bs. A question is not objectionable bc it impeaches someone! Tough questions are not objectionable in & of themselves! In sustaining the incessant objections to tough hitting questions, she’s playing sides & unnecessarily risking reversal & remand, if not reprimand, by an appellate court. The whole thing is on the verge of a circus.
@TuesdayGazette
@TuesdayGazette 10 күн бұрын
@@IAmALawyerToo The judge is allowed to intervene in the defense’s tactic to cross boundaries. Just because the defense is relentless in their approach to push a narrative onto witnesses does not mean the judge needs to just allow it. The fact that people are defending the defense’s behavior and shaming the judge is wild to me. Just the other day, the defense was allowed to present a photo to a witness, and they had the report on the page with the photo which was not allowed.🥴
@kellboden
@kellboden 10 күн бұрын
Did anyone else pickup on the video that when John left the bar, he put down his beer and picked up Karen’s glass and walked out of the bar?
@EricKeen-ff5mw
@EricKeen-ff5mw 10 күн бұрын
You’re high as F!!,
@ItzMzJulez2U
@ItzMzJulez2U 10 күн бұрын
That was surprising. I hadn’t considered that possibility. Weird too like the old saying goes ‘beer before liquor, you’re gonna be sicker, liquor before beer, you’re in the clear.’ But it did answer one of my questions.🤷🏻‍♀️
@HoneyBri.Eliese
@HoneyBri.Eliese 10 күн бұрын
I’m wondering if it’s because that was prob the glass that she had brought with her, so he grabbed it before leaving so it didn’t get left there?..
@TMxo
@TMxo 9 күн бұрын
@@ItzMzJulez2Uprobably because it was snowing out and he didn’t want her to be carrying the glass.. In case it was slippery or maybe he did that all the time for her.
@ItzMzJulez2U
@ItzMzJulez2U 9 күн бұрын
@@TMxo My thoughts have been all over the place with this since yesterday! I assumed he finished her drink.🤦🏻‍♀️
@JazzyScat
@JazzyScat 10 күн бұрын
So the text messages haven't been extracted? I've never seen a judge say to the jury that they have to decide who the texts are from and to.
@crystalhanson1483
@crystalhanson1483 9 күн бұрын
EXACTLY! ? ! ? Poor Jurors :( :( :( :(
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 10 күн бұрын
A person pulls up with donuts and Brian Albert Snr hears it, yet he didn’t hear the sirens from the 3 hours earlier?
@TopCat8877
@TopCat8877 10 күн бұрын
There weren’t any sirens as has been testified many times.
@Shazvana
@Shazvana 10 күн бұрын
Exactly!! I said the same thing to myself. It's these tinny details that show who the real murderer/s are and I don't believe for one second that it is KR.
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
@@TopCat8877 As soon as Karen is driven from the scene inside a police car, the lights in the Albert's home suddenly went on. Cop outside was talking to an Albert to let them know when it's safe to come out. Meh. Bunch of crooks!
@TopCat8877
@TopCat8877 10 күн бұрын
@@KayInMaine 1. Karen left in an ambulance to the hospital. 2.The lights came on when Jen M went in to wake them up as instructed by police. 3. There was no need for anyone from the house to come outside, the police went inside to talk to them.
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 10 күн бұрын
@@TopCat8877 I thought they said at least one police car, ambulance and fire truck had sirens, unless it was blue lghts..
@BostonMA781
@BostonMA781 10 күн бұрын
Adam Lally said on 5/6 in court (at the 7:23:05 hour mark of the L&C stream) when arguing why the Lapolito case is so far removed/not relevant… Lally says “It was a single incident in which he (Lank) did not witness anything to do with the Albert brothers. Uhh Christopher Albert was never at 34 Fairview Rd on Jan 28th or uhh until much much later in the day of Jan 29th and certainly not at the same time Sergeant Lank was” Lank said on 5/7 in court (at the 02:09:22 hour mark of the L&C stream) that he went back to Fairview (for the third time) after receiving a call from Jen McCabe shortly after 9am. Chris Albert said today 5/9 in court (at the 59:00 min mark of the L&C stream) that him and Julie went to Fairview sometime after 9oclock. By Chris Albert confirming he was at Fairview the morning of Jan 29th with Julie, it proves Adam Lally lied on 5/6 to the court.
@aldon725
@aldon725 10 күн бұрын
What if anything have you noticed about Judge Aunt Bev’s blatant bias
@r.g6170
@r.g6170 10 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jamesoliveri91
@jamesoliveri91 10 күн бұрын
There isn’t ANY. That’s ridiculous.
@iamtomkills
@iamtomkills 10 күн бұрын
@aldon Nothing. Perhaps you’re new to how trials work ? And I mean that in the nicest way. Lots of people want the defendant to be innocent or have decided ahead of time that she is innocent purely because she is female combined with the belief that all police are corrupt - that’s my opinion based on reading comments. It’s not possible to say she is innocent or guilty. The trial is ongoing. The jury weigh the evidence. The judge follows the rules and as much as it may rub the ‘innocent no need for a trial’ brigade the wrong way there will be a verdict based on evidence. The defense are pushing the boundaries and rightly so. I’m sure the prosecution will do the same. Phew. I await the hate.
@pattysawicki9607
@pattysawicki9607 10 күн бұрын
Where’s his hat and shoe and jacket ..In that frickin house that’s where
@annievw5640
@annievw5640 10 күн бұрын
Not sure he had a jacket… but yeah wondering about the hat.
@DonnaJo3452
@DonnaJo3452 10 күн бұрын
O’Keefe did not have a coat or jacket. If you look at the videos, all he had on was a hoodie type shirt. Plus, nearly everybody said O’Keefe doesn’t wear coats or jackets.
@pattysawicki9607
@pattysawicki9607 10 күн бұрын
@@DonnaJo3452 where is the missing shoe..and where is the glass from ..not hard to figure out..go to the bar and compare glasses
@EricKeen-ff5mw
@EricKeen-ff5mw 10 күн бұрын
@@DonnaJo3452what about the hat….guess you missed the hat
@cynthiaschneidee4598
@cynthiaschneidee4598 10 күн бұрын
@@DonnaJo3452 I believe he may have put coat on after leaving bar in the car, hat may have blown away in wind , shoe came off when hit by Karen, snow plows may have taken away evidence in early morning.
@annmarier7146
@annmarier7146 10 күн бұрын
Karen Read gave Chris Albert that death stare. The I do not fear you or anyone else on the stand.
@Indiartworks
@Indiartworks 10 күн бұрын
So what? Who cares?
@yellowsubmarine7073
@yellowsubmarine7073 10 күн бұрын
Cuz she’s innocent
@bridgetives359
@bridgetives359 10 күн бұрын
Why would she fear him?! 😂 The conspiracy folks on here are wild
@MitziHart
@MitziHart 9 күн бұрын
Corruption with the cover-uP is REAL ⚖️
@cyndilagasse991
@cyndilagasse991 10 күн бұрын
funny how chris' wife also says he got home at 12:10 which has already been debunked but she didn't have a chance to discuss it with chris after his testimony. And funny that chris said colin popped his head in but wife says he came in and gave her a kiss. none of her story adds up. she says jen said something happened to john and didn't know if he was okay, and went home to tell chris but according to hubby she came in and told him john was dead
@SJK0013
@SJK0013 10 күн бұрын
Pizza guy has totally different attitude talking with prosecutor than with defense. Hhhmmmmm
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
It's better for him if it doesn't show, but ... I'd be dang miffed if a dude cross examining me thought I'd aided in the murder of someone.
@sherricole7689
@sherricole7689 10 күн бұрын
Omg !!! I thought it was just me ! Put up a total defense the moment the defense attorney started! Ridiculous!!!
@87lostfan
@87lostfan 10 күн бұрын
@@mollykillarney2419 then he shouldn't have aided in a murder
@nolo3
@nolo3 10 күн бұрын
@@87lostfanreally? where was that displayed in the evidence/trial?
@chrissyf798
@chrissyf798 9 күн бұрын
He’s shady af
@sarahlopresti8892
@sarahlopresti8892 10 күн бұрын
This judge is just biased 😮
@nolo3
@nolo3 10 күн бұрын
Defense Lawyer: “so you got home, you didn’t dr…….” Chris Albert: “nope” (sniff) Defense Lawyer: “didn’t drink any water?” Chris Albert: “nope” (sniff) (scratch face) (pulls ear)
@TheFlippingIdiot
@TheFlippingIdiot 10 күн бұрын
Never forget Boston police officer John O'Keefe was assaulted inside the home of Brian Albert and then left outside in the front yard to die in the cold.
@aldon725
@aldon725 10 күн бұрын
Justice for John O'Keefe and Karen Read = The whole of the Albert Clan and their subordinates on trial
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 10 күн бұрын
That hasn’t been said in this trial. So the viewers wouldn’t know unless they have watched other stuff like grand jury’s etc
@JH-mv5jk
@JH-mv5jk 10 күн бұрын
IMO, it has been established there is no conspiracy nor cover up. The only cover up is what the defense is trying to prove. Unfortunately, Karen Read is over charged with murder 2. It is more of a DUI and involuntary manslaughter. JMO
@AcmeRocket
@AcmeRocket 10 күн бұрын
How do you know this?
@Indiartworks
@Indiartworks 10 күн бұрын
Were you there? So far zero evidence at all of this actually happening
@angelwings7930
@angelwings7930 10 күн бұрын
I’d like to know how, even IF they’d been arguing or angry with each other, how that would prove anything. Witnesses are all saying they were both acting ok, but imagine how she’d be crucified if they had been cranky with each other that evening ?! I understand it would kind of maybe point to “motive”, but if that’s all the prosecution has then it would be ridiculous to send her prison simply because her and the BF were mad at each other. You need more proof than that.
@AcmeRocket
@AcmeRocket 10 күн бұрын
They have more. Patience
@mighty0974
@mighty0974 10 күн бұрын
​@@AcmeRocketHomie, I've been patient for over a week. The same line of questioning over, and over, and over, and over again.
@MeliSierra-fw7cf
@MeliSierra-fw7cf 10 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to hear her loving voicemails to John 🤣
@mighty0974
@mighty0974 10 күн бұрын
@MeliSierra-fw7cf wow! Lack of loving voicemails! Great evidence of a guilty murderer. Are you a lawyer?
@JazzyScat
@JazzyScat 10 күн бұрын
Funny that only Chris Albert and his wife saw Karen pull out a glass from her coat. The other woman who spent the evening speaking with her and Jen and were sitting together never saw that.
@DrewDubious
@DrewDubious 10 күн бұрын
this guy is in charge of our town finances...
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
Vote him out.
@DMiller912
@DMiller912 10 күн бұрын
Judge appears biased!
@shannan34
@shannan34 10 күн бұрын
Cause that’s her family probably
@pennymoon8113
@pennymoon8113 10 күн бұрын
She’s part of the corruption, too!!
@turtlecay
@turtlecay 10 күн бұрын
Your on a diet yet drinking and eating fried tenders and potato skins🤔
@Beelcheenrea
@Beelcheenrea 10 күн бұрын
And drinking
@mighty0974
@mighty0974 10 күн бұрын
And eating fried tenders.
@AcmeRocket
@AcmeRocket 10 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same. I didn't want to eat pizza, so I went to the bar and ordered beer and apps. 😂😂
@andremichau2455
@andremichau2455 10 күн бұрын
Hilarious, isn't it?
@jenniferdiaz2293
@jenniferdiaz2293 10 күн бұрын
It's for charity😂😂😂
@kristinbyrd278
@kristinbyrd278 10 күн бұрын
These are viable questions why is the judge continuing to sustain these questions from being answered but not doing the same on prosecution side? I am a little aggravated by this
@drmartina6872
@drmartina6872 10 күн бұрын
Because prosecution is not badgering, employing sarcasm/demeaning tone of voice, or other ridiculous tactics…maybe they will once defense puts on their witnesses. Have you never seen a trial?
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 10 күн бұрын
Depending on which question, it may be foundation or hearsay.
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 10 күн бұрын
Usually when the objection happens they give a reason but not here!
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
@@janeevans1859 They've been instructed by the judge not to.
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
She's biased being related to some of the key players inside the Albert's house that night/morning.
@enzienzie
@enzienzie 10 күн бұрын
She’s really chewing gum on the stand during a murder trial tf
@gretchensims6657
@gretchensims6657 3 күн бұрын
This judge is soooo involved in testimony. She hovers over every sentence and involves herself when it’s absolutely not needed. There is no other court I have ever seen do this. I watch a lot of trials and never before has a judge done this
@user-bn6nz8ty4j
@user-bn6nz8ty4j 10 күн бұрын
System is so corrupt
@musictomyears6920
@musictomyears6920 10 күн бұрын
This isn’t a one-off in small towns of MA. I’m originally from Mass., but moved out of state because it was like this. It’s common there.
@Chris-Alia
@Chris-Alia 10 күн бұрын
The last 20 mins were gold
@jasongreene5578
@jasongreene5578 10 күн бұрын
Case needs to be thrown out
@MrWeepies
@MrWeepies 10 күн бұрын
Albert and Higgins(the guys play-fighting in the bar) are very big dudes and they look like fighters. Im thinking either both of them, or one of them is the murderer.
@geechis8883
@geechis8883 10 күн бұрын
I think it was colin and they egged it on, went to far and panicked
@letmework6254
@letmework6254 10 күн бұрын
What is Colin’s motive?
@corrinnedowns1180
@corrinnedowns1180 9 күн бұрын
You mean the two rolly pollies getting it on?
@taylorplease
@taylorplease 10 күн бұрын
Chris Albert’s body language and demeanor is so strange..
@roxdarmurray6634
@roxdarmurray6634 4 күн бұрын
Strange bc he’s uncomfortable $ LYING! He SNIFFS repeatedly during cross, very little during direct, just when he’s lying. Very obvious.
@user-bh8bo5hh9o
@user-bh8bo5hh9o 10 күн бұрын
judge harps on not wasting the juror's precious time yet she her self is a freakin' "SideBar Sally"!
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
Sidebars don't waste the jury's time. They're part of the trial.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
correct ......and only wants to work 4-6 hrs a day.............laziest judge and court I've ever seen
@leenachandi4840
@leenachandi4840 8 күн бұрын
@@mollykillarney2419not this many…..she calls a sidebar like every 1-5 min on avg.
@misskiraly69
@misskiraly69 10 күн бұрын
What's with the multiple witnesses chewing gum?
@Tommypatch1978
@Tommypatch1978 10 күн бұрын
I noticed that myself
@Missdeemeaner461
@Missdeemeaner461 10 күн бұрын
Who cares😂
@pennymoon8113
@pennymoon8113 10 күн бұрын
Nerves
@flamegoddess1353
@flamegoddess1353 10 күн бұрын
Based on my experience, witnesses and court observers are typically advised in advance that gum chewing is not allowed in the courtroom and if the judge or others bring attention to a person doing so, the courtroom bailiff would bring a tissue and request the gum to be disposed of immediately. Perhaps they don’t have the same rules in MA? Or perhaps this court is just really lax?
@gabrielapetunia1871
@gabrielapetunia1871 10 күн бұрын
It’s Bostonians.
@doragreen3887
@doragreen3887 10 күн бұрын
How does the last female witness remember everything so clearly except for the details of what she talked about with lead investigators sister!? It would be less suspicious if she just owned up and said they were discussing the case.
@shannan34
@shannan34 10 күн бұрын
Convince
@devildogcody
@devildogcody 10 күн бұрын
an awful lot of objections from the state..... it's a bad look
@nicholasflorida1994
@nicholasflorida1994 10 күн бұрын
Why does this court have do half days like every other day? The judge complains about the parties not wasting jurors time, aren't there other judges to handle other cases?! Unbelievable.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
laziest judge and court in America..........so disrespectful of this juries time
@TrudylynnGunn
@TrudylynnGunn 10 күн бұрын
What the heck is the witness Julie Albert doing chewing on something (looks like gum) while she is on the witness stand.. Talk about disrespectful
@annievw5640
@annievw5640 10 күн бұрын
I agree… she is annoying.
@sarahlopresti8892
@sarahlopresti8892 10 күн бұрын
So disrespectful 😮
@yellowduck8061
@yellowduck8061 10 күн бұрын
She's 48 and looks hard as nails
@nikkiharris9605
@nikkiharris9605 10 күн бұрын
@@yellowduck8061ooff! Thought the same thing! Rough on the edges for 48, damn!
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
agree...........I thought at one point she was going to start blowing bubbles
@jeangilding9382
@jeangilding9382 9 күн бұрын
Karen really epitomizes the phrase, she really “has her nose in the air.” She appears to be so smug.
@beckyholland5703
@beckyholland5703 10 күн бұрын
This case is so odd. Why didn’t the police speak to everyone John was with the day he was found? 2 weeks later is insane! If anyone was in an altercation with John there would be no marks on anyone 2 weeks later!
@cyndilagasse991
@cyndilagasse991 10 күн бұрын
i wish he had asked if chris was awake when colin came home
@Pushturn20
@Pushturn20 10 күн бұрын
Watch the magic memory comeback tomorrow w/this witness (obviously not by discussing ANYTHING with the Common Wealth)….🙄
@shannan34
@shannan34 10 күн бұрын
This judge and this crooked officer are enough for a preacher to cuss
@laurieplantamuro2968
@laurieplantamuro2968 10 күн бұрын
How did the judge know the witness needed glasses?
@amyfay5791
@amyfay5791 10 күн бұрын
And or why would she be giving her an opportunity out of reading. Almost like the judge wanted her to say yes.
@MegaJordan1980
@MegaJordan1980 10 күн бұрын
It's a conspiracy!!!!! The judge must be in on it too How many people are in on it now?
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
Because the witness was 𝐬𝐪𝐮𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 and holding the paper close to her face. Then the defense lawyer offered her his glasses.
@roxdarmurray6634
@roxdarmurray6634 4 күн бұрын
Chris Albert was such great friends with John, hence Karen too, that he repeatedly calls her DEFENDANT. 🙄
@BostonChick1970
@BostonChick1970 10 күн бұрын
Another half day..PITIFUL
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
And yet, this corrupt judge keeps saying she doesn't like to waste the jury's time!
@BostonChick1970
@BostonChick1970 10 күн бұрын
@@KayInMaine exactly my point, thank u!!!
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
@BostonChick1970 exactly! You're right when you say she is pitiful!!!
@BostonChick1970
@BostonChick1970 10 күн бұрын
@@KayInMaine which one? Lol
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
laziest judge and court I've ever seen.........pathetic disrespect for this juries time
@MissX905
@MissX905 10 күн бұрын
Why would CA lie about walking out and seeing which way JO'K and KR went? He does testify tho that he didn't think that KR was intoxicated and had no reason to think she was not ok to drive, hmmm
@Stickofbutter9
@Stickofbutter9 10 күн бұрын
When the prosecutor objects to the defense questions there is not explanation for why he’s objecting, she just blurts out ‘sustained’ immediately 99.9% of the time! The judges bias in this case is overwhelming obvious!🤨🤷🏻‍♂️
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
The attorneys have been instructed to 𝐧𝐨𝐭 immediately add why they object.
@Stickofbutter9
@Stickofbutter9 10 күн бұрын
@@mollykillarney2419 Well that’s makes sense that this bias judge would set that rule. Knowing that the defenses questioning of the prosecution witnesses would doom the prosecutions case vs Karen Read ultimately leading to a not guilty verdict
@beatrizc8043
@beatrizc8043 10 күн бұрын
⁠@@mollykillarney2419when was this?
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 10 күн бұрын
@@mollykillarney2419 She must have made that rule up because she didn't want the jurors to hear the reasons.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
@@KayInMaine It's not "made-up." You really think Jackson & Yannetti wouldn't contest it if it were "made-up"? No way! They're amazing lawyers.
@cathbooth1980
@cathbooth1980 10 күн бұрын
Wow…Julie Albert’s testimony was somewhat aggressive? She was barking her answers…I wouldn’t wanna get on the wrong side of her
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
She was probably worried about interrupting lawyers' objections again, so she paused before each answer and was quick about it.
@salliem424
@salliem424 10 күн бұрын
I hope the judge reads the comments. She needs to adjust her attitude because she's coming off horrible to the public.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
I seriously doubt she will. Or should.
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 10 күн бұрын
Pause at 2:07:53. Am I the only one thinking about the possibility of the pizza guy's son being involved in this case? Resume watching.
@stefaniefirmin4901
@stefaniefirmin4901 10 күн бұрын
Did you see there's allegations that the son posted cut up knuckles a few days after the murder
@AcmeRocket
@AcmeRocket 10 күн бұрын
You are not the only one.
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 10 күн бұрын
@@stefaniefirmin4901 I missed that part but I got the impression the father's demeanor changed a bit as soon as the defense attorney got ready to interrogate him. Then when he was shown he was wrong in terms of the time he went to sleep and the time his son came home he wasn’t a happy camper at all. Another thing that got my attention was he didn't take a bath before going to bed after having been in his pizza shop sweating all day. He washed up a bit in the job, went to meet his wife and friends at the bar and then straight to sleep.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
"The only one"? Hardly. There are livestreams of the son being accused for 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐡𝐬. Death threats, even. Got so bad, he dropped out of college and lost his football scholarship.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
@@hectornegron9155 He washed at his pizza shop and changed his clothes.
@mikecartermulcy
@mikecartermulcy 10 күн бұрын
The judge ends the day early, mid-testimony of Mrs Albert? During the part where defense is establishing she was possibly acting as in-between her husband (& his brother) and the lead investigator?
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
She said earlier in the week today would end at noon.
@pennymoon8113
@pennymoon8113 10 күн бұрын
I’m sure the defense attorney will not forget where he left off and will probably ask the same questions leading up to being blatantly interrupted by the bias judge!
@nolo3
@nolo3 10 күн бұрын
@@pennymoon8113yeah but it kills the momentum and gives the witness a chance to gather her thoughts and answers to “get their story straight”
@kristinruder473
@kristinruder473 8 күн бұрын
Most judges would allow the line of questioning to conclude instead of ending immediately at noon in the middle of a pivotal question.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 7 күн бұрын
@@pennymoon8113 (No offense, but it's "biasED." 🙂)
@amber800
@amber800 10 күн бұрын
She looked at someone befor3 she gave the answer on being informed on Karen's arrest
@Michelleyoung1717
@Michelleyoung1717 10 күн бұрын
Wow the judge is awful. Why can’t the Defense ask questions that are about their defense???? 😢😮
@turtlecay
@turtlecay 10 күн бұрын
Mistrial
@juanacastillo7154
@juanacastillo7154 10 күн бұрын
or guilty.
@chrissyf798
@chrissyf798 9 күн бұрын
Pizza guy got real defensive abt his son there..
@truethat774
@truethat774 8 күн бұрын
That he did.
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 7 күн бұрын
His son's been "through it," honestly. Harassment, death threats, etc. by 𝒔𝒐 𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒚 people. Even at his college campus. Got so bad he gave up his football scholarship and dropped out. 🙁
@WILLPILL31
@WILLPILL31 10 күн бұрын
This judge should be disbarred for corruption in favor of these corrupt cops, and prosecution! How pathetic is she!!!!!!!
@Whiteinkdesigns
@Whiteinkdesigns 10 күн бұрын
Something is off w this Judge!! Has she never spoken the words “overruled” in her career? She seems annoyed with the defense and this sidebar crap with the jury outside of the courtroom is Sus!
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 10 күн бұрын
shes running cover for the state. Ever seen a bad referee in a basketball game that allows an inferior team to stay in the game by making a bunch of atrocious calls.........that's her
@Whiteinkdesigns
@Whiteinkdesigns 9 күн бұрын
@@bobbyswain7049 how is this allowed? I mean it’s so blatantly obvious.
@VelvetPanther
@VelvetPanther 10 күн бұрын
ARE THE INJURIES CONSISTENT WITH GETTING HIT BY A CAR OR GETTING BEAT UP BUY MEN & SCRATCHED BY A DOG??
@Chris-Alia
@Chris-Alia 10 күн бұрын
Both eyes were blackened. Beat up, knocked out and left in cold. The Albert’s Googled “how long die in cold” at 1:27 am when John was on their lawn. It tells you everything. The scratches were probably from the broken drinking glass.
@aprilina2580
@aprilina2580 10 күн бұрын
​@@Chris-Aliaor from the Alberts' German shepherd (that they later rehomed).
@thedaviszone5187
@thedaviszone5187 10 күн бұрын
Wow!! Ive never seen a witness chewing gum??!!
@Sunflower20810
@Sunflower20810 10 күн бұрын
There was a witness the other that had a mint or cough drop and I thought that was bad. Chewing gum is on another level!
@starsalways7922
@starsalways7922 10 күн бұрын
I love how the prosecutor has to get the kids ages, profession of witnesses, the layout of the bar, the receipt amount, what they were drinking...do they normally drink this? Riveting!!!! Relevant!!!
@nemellotus8675
@nemellotus8675 10 күн бұрын
Why did Albert wife drive over to Fairview for someone missing….suspicious. There must have been a fight with JO and Colin probably and she drove over there to “work it out”
@ilikegames8313
@ilikegames8313 10 күн бұрын
Yup Colin punched him, he fell and hit his head. The uncle didn’t want him to go jail and ruin his life. Called friends and covered it all up
@kristinweeks9712
@kristinweeks9712 8 күн бұрын
Is your memory exhausted 😂😂
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 7 күн бұрын
"No, just my patience." 😂
@sarahlopresti8892
@sarahlopresti8892 10 күн бұрын
Wow wow... Just end here RIDICULOUS 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@mac7659
@mac7659 10 күн бұрын
If the defense isn't careful, they will lose the jury's attention. Their tactics were entertaining at the beginning, but slowly it becomes boring.
@Indiartworks
@Indiartworks 10 күн бұрын
Really boring and who cares if people in a small town know each other and are friends? Guess what? The jury is from there too!!!
@mighty0974
@mighty0974 10 күн бұрын
This is the prosecution presenting its case right now.
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 10 күн бұрын
I agree but still way more interesting than the prosecution and the defence always had a point to make
@Kibihir07
@Kibihir07 10 күн бұрын
Finally a witness who doesn’t know when to lie or tell the truth. Lol
@hayee15
@hayee15 10 күн бұрын
The gum while testifying… whaaat 😭
@hamstersmash
@hamstersmash 10 күн бұрын
The face scratching and rubbing, the sniffing, what a suss witness
@cyndilagasse991
@cyndilagasse991 10 күн бұрын
chris isn't too bright, is he? and the sniffing is annoying
@doragreen3887
@doragreen3887 10 күн бұрын
What is that lady chewing on? Gum or tobacco or a cough drop? Why when you are on the stand!?
@benspeakman2623
@benspeakman2623 10 күн бұрын
now the case is starting to make sense
@workingonmyroar7944
@workingonmyroar7944 10 күн бұрын
How?!
@benspeakman2623
@benspeakman2623 10 күн бұрын
The Albert's sons! They clearly had something to do with this, one of them got into a confrontation with Okeefe and Chris Albert and or Brian Albert put a beat down on John Okeefe.
@Lauren-or7cb
@Lauren-or7cb 10 күн бұрын
Is the defense implying one of the sons cut through okeefe backyard to get tail light?
@mollykillarney2419
@mollykillarney2419 10 күн бұрын
@@benspeakman2623 You're being sarcastic? Over a shortcut?
@benspeakman2623
@benspeakman2623 10 күн бұрын
@@mollykillarney2419 they didnt mean to kill him obviously
@EricKeen-ff5mw
@EricKeen-ff5mw 10 күн бұрын
I see where this all going now…..Wow!
@longhorn7101
@longhorn7101 3 күн бұрын
I wonder if all these people from the bar know their testimony is in no way unique and has already been stated by seemingly a dozen other people at this point.
@slim7435
@slim7435 8 күн бұрын
The defense has a hot mic 😂🤣they must have forgotten to shut it off
@johnbachinski4711
@johnbachinski4711 10 күн бұрын
Is this the defense lawyer that represented Stormy?
@jesstipton6042
@jesstipton6042 2 күн бұрын
I don't think she hit him and her attorneys are phenomenal, but I don't like how she looks so smug all the time.
@kidego1971
@kidego1971 10 күн бұрын
Almost every witness Ive seen get cross examined by Karen's team are rude, sarcastic and just nasty. Its obvious to me that they are all "teaming up" on her. There is just too many bizarre things going on behind the scenes of this case.
@yellowduck8061
@yellowduck8061 10 күн бұрын
Yup, nasty and hard. Way too many incestuous relationships between the power structures
@prisonersdilemma939
@prisonersdilemma939 10 күн бұрын
All of them, especially the cops have chips on their shoulders. It’s strange.
@kidego1971
@kidego1971 10 күн бұрын
@@yellowduck8061 definitely! If the jury isnt in on it as well, Karen should be safe.
@kidego1971
@kidego1971 10 күн бұрын
@@prisonersdilemma939 Its ALMOST as if they all have something to hide, eh?
@pamelapenrose9748
@pamelapenrose9748 10 күн бұрын
The only thing she may be guilty of is driving under the influence but the cops were drinking and driving also. She referred to John as her husband and she loved him. its okay for her to have a break down at the crime scene. Someone asked if she hit him and she may have repeated with a question mark. (I hit him, I hit him, I hit him???) And as for her stating its all her fault it because she should have went and stayed with him and this would not have happened. She is a model citizen a professor and took care of the kids also.
@MeliSierra-fw7cf
@MeliSierra-fw7cf 10 күн бұрын
Has anyone said they personally asked Karen if she hit him? Why would anyone ask that? I think she told on herself.
@irregularguy2
@irregularguy2 10 күн бұрын
Railroad job on Karen. UGH
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