LIVE! Read Jurors Speak Out - Not Guilty On Some Charges - Will The Judge Dismiss?

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Күн бұрын

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Chapters:
0:00 Welcome
01:01 Intro
01:18 Introducing Big George
02:40 Has George ever seen a situation like this before?
03:23 Positives and Negatives for defense?
04:20 Karen Read Motion To Dismiss
10:50 Have we ever had jurors reach out to us after a trial?
12:10 Cont. Karen Read Motion To Dismiss
15:48 Looking at Verdict Slip
21:41 Jury believed prosecution's theory?
23:03 Cont. Karen Read Motion To Dismiss
28:33 Motion To Dismiss - Argument - Jury's Unanimous Conclusion Constitutes Aquittall
36:12 Motion To Dismiss - Argument - Re-Prosecution Is Barred On Counts The Jury Unanimously Agreed
46:55 Motion To Dismiss - Argument - The Defense Is at Least Entitled to Conduct Post-Verdict Inquiry
48:56 Will any of the defense arguments be successful?
52:35 Q&A
53:25 Issues with post-verdict inquiry?
57:15 Q&A
1:00:39 New Defense Attorney?
1:01:20 Jackson Affidavit
1:04:51 Why do lawyers have to file an affidavit
1:06:45 Q&A
1:07:21 Yanetti Affidavit
1:11:54 Q&A
1:16:33 Cont. Yanetti Affidavit
1:21:41 Q&A
1:32:27 Did Peter misinterpret jury note?
1:34:40 Conclusion
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@MLA56
@MLA56 11 күн бұрын
I'm an old, retired criminal defense attorney/ prosecutor. JD, SJD, PhD. It raised flags with me when Cannone didn't poll the Jury on each count, NOR did she allow the Parties to SEE the notes, etc sent from the Jury. But THEN chose to speak to the Jurors privately afterward? ALL of that is HIGHLY unusual. I can't help but wonder if Cannone KNEW they were unanimous on those 2 counts, but suppressed it, illegally "ordering" not to speak about it. Or conveying that impression. PRIOR TO Jury Deliberations, there was a last-minute removal of a Juror. Or were there 2? ANYWAY. She had the Clerk pull numbers out of a bucket to make it final who would be deliberating. BUT. Judge and Clerk DENIED the Defense's request to check the bucket and numbers for accuracy. Interestingly, Jurors THOUGHT to be Read supporters were removed, and Jurors THOUGHT to be prosecution supporters added. AND. The Bailiffs in this trial were STATE POLICE, not County Sheriff's Deputies, as I've witnessed in EVERY local- court trial I've ever seen. MORESO since the MSP was the agency getting ripped to pieces in the trial. VERY ODD. ON TOP OF the mountain of other garbage and insanity of this trial, it EXPONENTIALLY EXPANDS suspicion that this entire Matter -- with the increased likelihood of Judicial Misconduct - blows the doors off.
@MaTTheWish
@MaTTheWish 11 күн бұрын
Thanks! For your input.
@Roobz2000
@Roobz2000 11 күн бұрын
🎯👏👏👏
@franperez4663
@franperez4663 11 күн бұрын
Fantastic comment, thank you. Liked!
@jillruben8924
@jillruben8924 11 күн бұрын
Excellent opinion. Can anything happen to Cannone for this obvious decision?
@vlogplannet12
@vlogplannet12 11 күн бұрын
Don't forget also... She states its random which alternates will be dismissed when names are pulled from bucket BUT picked the foreperson BEFOREHAND. How did she know whether that juror would be randomly selected and removed or not... So obviously the forepersobs number couldn't be in there. Also 3 jurors were dismissed. All thought to be KR support. 2 were alternates removed and 1 was questioned and removed before the selecting
@Camiken65
@Camiken65 11 күн бұрын
This trial was a shit show from the beginning. I am not surprised by this at all. Complete judicial failure. Pathetic!
@sunchips5
@sunchips5 10 күн бұрын
@Camiken65 The only thing is, is that the verdict should have been NOT GUILTY on ALL counts.
@user-ej9jq2zf1y
@user-ej9jq2zf1y 11 күн бұрын
Judge was pathetic at many levels throughout this trial 😡😡😡
@doreendaykin6693
@doreendaykin6693 11 күн бұрын
I completely agree!!!!
@jfk32975
@jfk32975 11 күн бұрын
But what would the judge have to do with hung jury. The defense called for it no prosecution
@elpatron7916
@elpatron7916 11 күн бұрын
DEI law student 😂😂🎉
@elpatron7916
@elpatron7916 11 күн бұрын
​@@jfk32975her crappy instructions
@B_Bodziak
@B_Bodziak 11 күн бұрын
​@@jfk32975 not clarifying the jury instructions for starters.
@freeyourmind44
@freeyourmind44 11 күн бұрын
The Judge was, inadequate...
@beachgirl4truth672
@beachgirl4truth672 11 күн бұрын
Extremely biased, if not corrupt!!
@justkim9827
@justkim9827 11 күн бұрын
That's the polite way to put it...
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars 11 күн бұрын
Jury was never instructed that they could hang on one charge and decide others. So this is a failure of the court.
@hopefulhuman
@hopefulhuman 11 күн бұрын
The lawyers could have explained in closing also.
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars 11 күн бұрын
@@hopefulhuman not their job to explain jury instructions. They CAN include reference and details about them but that’s the courts job.
@adriennem7927
@adriennem7927 11 күн бұрын
Omg yes, "I'm doing it my way, it's my court, and I'm the boss of everyone here" 😠😡
@adriennem7927
@adriennem7927 11 күн бұрын
Ain't bev was not going to even let AJ fix that bcuz of the confusion. Then she made it harder fo4 them. Her doing. "ITS MY COURT, ALL ABOUT ME" She's a monster.
@adriennem7927
@adriennem7927 11 күн бұрын
​@hopefulhuman nope bcuz ain't bev, if you w watched... she was in charge. She turned it all her way, to confuse them.
@ckellysmith
@ckellysmith 11 күн бұрын
One juror’s report demands investigation at a minimum
@lisabeloved
@lisabeloved 11 күн бұрын
Good!
@kristinerobb5109
@kristinerobb5109 11 күн бұрын
From who? Bev is hiding behind MA law so it will be tough to fight but hopefully higher ups are still watching (*cough* DOJ/FBI)
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
It’s a load of crap but the fact they said the other two were jurors is just part of their slime. If anyone is corrupt it’s these attorneys and narcissist Karen who is now believing her own lies.
@silikon2
@silikon2 11 күн бұрын
In this bumbling/corrupt "commonwealth"? Awww, you're so cute.
@jesseschulepicks
@jesseschulepicks 11 күн бұрын
you would imagine that more have come forward by now, or will be coming forward shortly. This ain't going away.
@mosaicmind88
@mosaicmind88 11 күн бұрын
The FBI needs to take a closer look at Auntie Bev, as well.
@louise2257
@louise2257 11 күн бұрын
First, SOMEBODY needs to take a REALLY close looks at the FBI 😳
@mosaicmind88
@mosaicmind88 11 күн бұрын
@@louise2257 True that! Lol
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
Get over yourself PLEASE…this is the conspiracy of the century and no one spilled? BULLCRAP. It’s simple she’s guilty and a liar.
@adriennem7927
@adriennem7927 11 күн бұрын
Shes a monster.. this sucks now.. But I swear I thought bev wouldn't poll the jury and also told them to Take their time, Meaning to me anyway, that the prosecutor didn't do their job. Doesn't anyone else???? And now they can't talk to anyone.. 'you can but I strongly suggest you dont" it was "Her decision, her court, her blah blah blah " she's a monster!!!.
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
@@adriennem7927 and you’re brainwashed, what you said is bull. She’s doing her job..she’s in on it too huh? You guys are so far up that murderers behind I swear but yet these slimy attorneys write this outrageous motion and you find excuses? Get out Karen’s colon. 24 mph in reverse 60 feet and I HATE YOU VM right after? She did it!! She admitted it.
@TaliaSC
@TaliaSC 11 күн бұрын
Since I saw it so much in live chat… once dismissed the jurors ARE ALLOWED to discuss the case. They can talk about the case on the phone. They can chat with coworkers. They CAN discuss on a zoom. These jurors came forward AFTER DISMISSAL.
@cocochanel1399
@cocochanel1399 11 күн бұрын
… some judges speak with juror panel as a whole after a case is dismissed, which is ethical, and not uncommon.
@lauralerro6478
@lauralerro6478 11 күн бұрын
@@cocochanel1399yes, and the judge stated that she was going to meet with the jury immediately after court was dismissed. The question is did the jury give Judge Cannone this information at that time?
@ballasog
@ballasog 11 күн бұрын
Somewhat amplifying your point, Juror deliberations are NOT secret. The rule against talking outside of deliberations before the jurors are dismissed is NOT to maintain secrecy. It is to prevent jurors' thinking from being contaminated in any way. Once they're dismissed, they need not talk, but can, talk about their actions and thinking as much as they want.
@electricpaper269
@electricpaper269 11 күн бұрын
People are really saying the jurors can’t speak? Man, some people are really confident despite lacking basic knowledge
@valhallaw
@valhallaw 11 күн бұрын
When Bev talked to the jurors she made it SEEM like the jurors were still very limited about what they were allowed to talk about. That’s why the juror who contacted the defense said they were only going to alert the attys about the results, not any content, of deliberations. IOW she mislead them hoping she could sweep her major f up under the carpet.
@videos-li5ys
@videos-li5ys 11 күн бұрын
Canone's fault for offering such a confusing jury slip.
@Great_Kate
@Great_Kate 11 күн бұрын
For so many reasons
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
It’s a standard form in that state..did you not listen? They getting out of Karen’s behind.
@videos-li5ys
@videos-li5ys 11 күн бұрын
According to Yannetti, there are other kinds of forms also. Canoni is incompetent.
@Rev12.10
@Rev12.10 11 күн бұрын
The whole crooked thing was crooked, from cops to judges, to governor.
@al1383
@al1383 11 күн бұрын
Don't forget the DA
@Rev12.10
@Rev12.10 11 күн бұрын
@@al1383 yeah, that chain-smoking fool, needs a car wash
@RobotCrafter1
@RobotCrafter1 11 күн бұрын
There was a crooked man, and he walked a crooked mile, He found a crooked sixpence against a crooked stile; He bought a crooked cat which caught a crooked mouse, And they all lived together in a little crooked house.
@Rev12.10
@Rev12.10 11 күн бұрын
@@RobotCrafter1 I hereby challenge any 5 McAlberts in the ring, all at once. No rules.
@seanleo3464
@seanleo3464 11 күн бұрын
Welcome to Massachusetts 🙃
@MustangDriver407
@MustangDriver407 11 күн бұрын
I love how Read’s attorneys are reminding everyone why we have our Constitutional rights and why these rights matter
@heatherhapgood6235
@heatherhapgood6235 11 күн бұрын
BeV needs to step down
@Michelleyoung1717
@Michelleyoung1717 11 күн бұрын
I hope more Jurors speak out.
@Steve-YT383
@Steve-YT383 11 күн бұрын
Just when you think you're out, they pull you back in
@forestfields
@forestfields 11 күн бұрын
Best comment!
@Dr_Vix
@Dr_Vix 11 күн бұрын
I hear a friends quote there 😆
@nadineprior3643
@nadineprior3643 11 күн бұрын
Right!!!!
@4nik8
@4nik8 11 күн бұрын
I was at the courthouse everyday, not w the KR supporters, just walking around the area because it's near my gym. I met my son today in S. Boston and there were KR supporters across the SBPD where Proctor was re-homed and I'm back!!!
@PhillyBirdGang1
@PhillyBirdGang1 10 күн бұрын
Thank god. I was getting bored!
@ArcherGinger
@ArcherGinger 11 күн бұрын
I remain solid on my thoughts the prosecution did not prove their case. She should have been found NOT guilty.
@dianelavoie6208
@dianelavoie6208 11 күн бұрын
See. This is why the defense was complaining about the verdict slips. They weren’t given the opportunity to say not guilty on some and hang on others.
@justkim9827
@justkim9827 11 күн бұрын
AND Bev didn't allow the defense and the Prosecution to review the new verdict form after she made the changes.
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
Not true…they could ask as many questions as they needed..THE WHOLE FORM WAS BLANK!!
@terrimoore541
@terrimoore541 10 күн бұрын
Judge failure!!!!
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 10 күн бұрын
⁠go back and look at verdict watch. Lally said keep deliberating and defense wanted to mistrial. Don’t start with judge failure. Defense should have spoken up. They ran their lying butts the whole trial!! No failure and this is another slimy attempt by defense to get a guilty client off..she’s a murderer!
@Ablank2011
@Ablank2011 11 күн бұрын
The judge dropped a lot of balls. She was horrible!!!
@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450
@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450 11 күн бұрын
No….HORRIBLE, in capital letters.
@CharlieLynne-eu9dz
@CharlieLynne-eu9dz 11 күн бұрын
She meant for the jury verdict slips and and she made the instructions confusing. Lally confused them by lying and rambling on and wasting time.
@DMC2829
@DMC2829 10 күн бұрын
Incompetent and bias!
@julieschwartz2135
@julieschwartz2135 11 күн бұрын
I’m so disgusted by this Judge…why didn’t she poll the jury on each count! This entire trial is a disgrace on so many levels.
@cocochanel1399
@cocochanel1399 11 күн бұрын
… is polling the jury is a lost art? They were confused for sure! The instructions took awhile to nail down and still were, obviously, unclear. Wow. This is wild
@sarahdee434
@sarahdee434 11 күн бұрын
Those instructions were way too verbose and very confusing!
@kristinerobb5109
@kristinerobb5109 11 күн бұрын
In MA, everything is a lost art...
@caroline-brisbane8577
@caroline-brisbane8577 11 күн бұрын
@@cocochanel1399 I don't understand. The jury form should have been completed ? Was it? If the form was not completed why The judge didn't ask for it to be/clarify - if the jury was hung on all counts. ? No one saught that ? Didn't require a poll of nos of guilty vs not guilty, just confirming the individual countss were considered and not agreed. Usually the judge asks the foreperson plus she rushed miss trial and excused the jury. Typical of her unprofessional conduct.
@nora__
@nora__ 11 күн бұрын
@@caroline-brisbane8577I feel like they didn't want to touch the verdict form at all until they decided unanimously on everything and I guess none of their notes indicated that they were hung up on any particular count. Regardless, the format of the verdict slip is confusing. Each charge should have its own section or page with clear G/NG for each.
@caroline-brisbane8577
@caroline-brisbane8577 11 күн бұрын
@@nora__ no 2 charge for sure, but 1 and 3 were clear, but not ticked not guilty. So why did they say hung and not clarify?
@CathieTomczyk-qz1lw
@CathieTomczyk-qz1lw 11 күн бұрын
The judge dropped the ball.
@RMBRN11
@RMBRN11 11 күн бұрын
No, she got a touchdown for the prosecution and thought no one saw that she cheated using a different ball to do it!
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 11 күн бұрын
The judge yeeted that ball deliberately
@Pam_224
@Pam_224 10 күн бұрын
No, the defense did. They didn’t object. But again, yall are so in love with Jackson and his Weinstein defending used car salesman personality that you want to put everything on literally everyone else except Jackson and Karen Read.
@margaretleavitt6992
@margaretleavitt6992 11 күн бұрын
This judge was a disgrace much like Proctor! Her disrespect, obvious disdain for the defense, stopping court abruptly for no good reason, not polling the jury, screwing up the form they were to use....she should be disbarred. Proctor shouldnot be the only one hung out to dry
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
SMH…brainwashed. Sad day in the US when a murderer has a fan club/cult!
@annkat100
@annkat100 11 күн бұрын
In from CO; I share some of your feelings. I can’t cite exact rules for allowing Judge’s discretion, but something smells like month-old, rotten, fish, IMO. Love this chat! Always goes in HARD, & piques interest- 👍🏽⚖️💪🏽
@annkat100
@annkat100 11 күн бұрын
@@PEBBLEZ21Where hv you been past 50 years? Nothing new in your opinion re small/lg communities “taking sides…” Come on. You must be a nearby community resident, or hv knowledge WE didn’t hear/see. Be better-do better. Character assassinations just not 🆒, in chats, imo! Mine. Doesn’t nd to be YOURS; can we agree to disagree? Unless… and then, perhaps you SHOULD involve yourself in this case: formally. This is a tough-as-nails chat. Throwing around allegations/maligning othr opinions (!), without citations, feels dangerous… Not personally/physically, of course; but expect pushback! I’m glad you’re involved & feel passionate-but at end of day, your commentary isn’t providing chat w/ anything tangible to consider. Think on it. Critical thinking requires facts, & knowing facts, requires learned study (Google isn’t studying); people nd to KNOW positions are steeped in shareable facts-IMO. Okay: I’m out for now- ✌🏽⚖️🧨📚
@sadiehughes6972
@sadiehughes6972 11 күн бұрын
Judge Bev should spend time with stinky Proctor
@rosalielibario9781
@rosalielibario9781 11 күн бұрын
​@@PEBBLEZ21did you watch the trial go drink the kool-aid from the cw
@Feline_Frenzy53
@Feline_Frenzy53 11 күн бұрын
Having been a Vet Tech for several years, and being bitten and scratched (by the way), I know wounds from a dog. Those wounds were from a dog.
@meetingamericainrvmode7801
@meetingamericainrvmode7801 11 күн бұрын
I started explaining this case to a friend. Discussed the divisiveness and some of the testimonies. My friend immediatly started defending the cops and assumed KR was guilty. I thought....YES- this was a great example of how people pick sides with so much conviction. My friends father was a Seattle cop.
@HannahD353
@HannahD353 11 күн бұрын
Confirmation bias!
@mitch6969123
@mitch6969123 11 күн бұрын
Well I guess you gotta hear all the evidence before you can make a decision. When I first started reading about the case, I thought she was guilty too, because what other explanation could there be… little did we know….
@ladyeowyn42
@ladyeowyn42 11 күн бұрын
SPD sucks. Killing pedestrians and mocking them.
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
She’s right..my 11 yo granddaughter is smarter than you. She watched and knows that c$&@ is guilty!
@refinnej5302
@refinnej5302 11 күн бұрын
To be fair, this case was absolutely unbelievable! I had the same reaction at first too. I don't like TB and his behavior was very off putting to me so I didn't trust his claims, but I checked out more credible sources. I still went into the trial sitting on the fence that maybe she did accidentally hit him. This is really a case where someone needs to see the corruption for themselves.
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 11 күн бұрын
We will never hear from those jurors again, they KNOW they are in danger if they speak. They can say whatever, but they KNOW to fear those cops.
@sadiehughes6972
@sadiehughes6972 11 күн бұрын
Exactly & Jen too that is one nasty cold mean person. Her big nasty mouth gets her in lots of trouble & cannot tell the truth. Was so snappy during her testimony.
@cherylj7460
@cherylj7460 11 күн бұрын
Holy smokes! Corrupt right through the verdict!
@natashafreeman2220
@natashafreeman2220 11 күн бұрын
The Jury should have been polled before they left!! I feel like now it’s all just hearsay. Nobody will really know what happened
@dpoopie
@dpoopie 11 күн бұрын
That's why defense is asking for hearing.
@noone3241
@noone3241 10 күн бұрын
Unfortunately before the same judge asking her to admit she is as corrupt as the cops who blatantly lied and not even well! Good luck with the outcome!
@amyhartman762
@amyhartman762 11 күн бұрын
Judge just wanted her guilty!! FIRE THAT JUDGE!!!!!! What a waste!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
@nadineprior3643
@nadineprior3643 11 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@hope7144
@hope7144 11 күн бұрын
AGREE She was HORRIBLE and RUDE! FIRE her and Proctor !!!!
@anitagendler3812
@anitagendler3812 11 күн бұрын
So crooked from the get go! 😮
@-Monad-
@-Monad- 11 күн бұрын
She was elected, so she can only be recalled by the voters.
@lindajohnson7675
@lindajohnson7675 11 күн бұрын
​@@-Monad-I think she was appointed by the elected DA? Not sure tho.
@JK-yf2vl
@JK-yf2vl 11 күн бұрын
The Judge did complain to the defense that she was “tired”. In open court. So unprofessional!
@barbarabell8674
@barbarabell8674 11 күн бұрын
@@JK-yf2vl yes! I found that so unprofessional! We’re all tired, yet do our jobs! She seems like she goes home and hits the Pinot noir, no shame in that, but do your job ma’am!
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
Why? People can’t be tired..maybe go back and listen why she was tired..everything to you Karen lovers is unprofessional except for the murderer.
@Tinmann_77
@Tinmann_77 11 күн бұрын
​@@PEBBLEZ21no, we all beleive the Albert's and McCabes are unprofessional too.
@therealz360z7
@therealz360z7 11 күн бұрын
Ofcourse she was tired saying so is just stating the obvious it isn't unprofessional it's just being human .
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 11 күн бұрын
​@@PEBBLEZ21I love how every comment of yours is acting like we're all just blind fans of KR's when in reality we found the very obvious cover-up to be pretty blatant and everyone on the prosecution seemed to be VERY bad at their jobs... but nah, we're all just huge fans of this random lady from MA. It's got nothing to do with what was presented in court/how the prosecution was laughably incompetent... nah.
@suzerick75116
@suzerick75116 11 күн бұрын
1) the judge was extremely incompetent for this trial. 2) she did not make sure the the papers made sense for guilty not guilty. The defense argued with her about this… 3) this whole case should be dropped against Karen. Prosecutor did NOT prove guilt. Most of the witnesses for prosecution were liars and trying to save their behinds by getting rid of phones, so called butt dials, selling the house, redoing basement, getting rid of dog…there was no proper investigation at all on any of the police officers and families such as the Alberts and McCabes and others.
@pinkgorilla99
@pinkgorilla99 11 күн бұрын
That sums it up perfectly 👏
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 11 күн бұрын
the judge made the papers confusion on purpose. She was trying to trick the jury into voting guilty
@gso4469
@gso4469 11 күн бұрын
Nope, you are the incompetent one
@UnintendedConsequences
@UnintendedConsequences 11 күн бұрын
@@gso4469- Simp much? Damn.
@Lucylu2114
@Lucylu2114 11 күн бұрын
@@gso4469ha now we get to laugh at you idiots
@doreendaykin6693
@doreendaykin6693 11 күн бұрын
This Judge definitely dropped the ball. You & your Father are lawyers so this seems simple to you. If I were a a jurist in this case… 1) I would never have been comfortable going back with questions to this Judge about the form. Did not find her approachable. 2) This form was too confusing & conflicting and I don’t believe this Prosecution team proved their case. 3) No amount of being sent back to deliberate longer would have made me change my opinion or my vote. It’s been drilled into me that to find a guilty verdict it has to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt… That did not happen. This Prosecution team did not prove it. Period. End of story.
@jessika702
@jessika702 11 күн бұрын
The Jury Foreman, judging from his notes to the Court, seemed very intelligent & articulate. Why on earth wouldn't he specify that they were deadlocked on 1 charge but unanimous on other? This is mind boggling if true!
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 11 күн бұрын
Foreperson was picked by BEV PRIOR to the random draw to dismiss the alternates! She loaded the jury by hand picking one of the 12 unfairly!
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 11 күн бұрын
This judge has dropped the ball on so much through out this trial.
@LinaGenX
@LinaGenX 11 күн бұрын
She seemed exhausted from day 1
@flynneart1111
@flynneart1111 11 күн бұрын
Uh, she RIGGED the ball
@Tay-fl8ym
@Tay-fl8ym 11 күн бұрын
@@flynneart1111 100%
@PartialCremation
@PartialCremation 11 күн бұрын
No matter where you stand, this is a bad look for the judge. Really, really bad. This will follow her forever.
@SheezaPI
@SheezaPI 9 күн бұрын
Maybe she’s going to write a best-seller book. Shades of Murdaugh in Mass.
@susansmithey5317
@susansmithey5317 8 күн бұрын
I’m thinking early retirement for the judge
@kathiemunoz3062
@kathiemunoz3062 11 күн бұрын
She didn't drop the ball at all, she is corrupt as hell. Every mistake she has made is in favour of the prosecution
@BeauBeauRivage
@BeauBeauRivage 11 күн бұрын
This is reason I’ve always said that if a jury can’t reach a guilty verdict even if it’s not not guilty the person should not be tried again.
@consciousmachine4138
@consciousmachine4138 11 күн бұрын
100%. If there's a jury of peers who can't all agree there is reasonable doubt.
@haileyoslund
@haileyoslund 11 күн бұрын
I absolutely agree! It doesn’t matter what the reason is, if the jury can’t agree then it’s out. When people say “well the attorneys will be better equipped to moved forward and prove their case the 2nd time around”, nope, they had the first chance and that should’ve been good enough.
@TeaandLaceJournals
@TeaandLaceJournals 11 күн бұрын
Exactly. That alone proves they have reasonable doubt…
@mitch6969123
@mitch6969123 11 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. But 1 person could mess it up. Maybe if you get 10 jurors guilty/not guilty
@AnastasiaRoseDamrau
@AnastasiaRoseDamrau 11 күн бұрын
This. Prosecution shouldn't get a second bite at the apple. They should get one chance to prove it to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, and anything less than twelve for guilty should be an acquittal.
@dr.edwardmoskowitz4328
@dr.edwardmoskowitz4328 11 күн бұрын
Aunt Bev( judge) could not get out of the courtroom any faster… to talk to the jurors, I wonder what she said to them. Maybe it’s me, but I never have seen someone so irritated, am I wrong the way I assessed Bev? She was not happy. I’m glad I’m a surgeon
@tmhamer3086
@tmhamer3086 11 күн бұрын
Her last big case the Chesna case(LE was killed) ended in a mistrial not long ago too! They ended up retrying the case and got a conviction.
@kellypujue999
@kellypujue999 11 күн бұрын
she looked more pissed then the CW i saw that while she’s reading mistrial
@samanthamarlman5292
@samanthamarlman5292 11 күн бұрын
This is great for Karen 🎉🎉🎉 bad for judge bev n DA. And the fbi is very involved in this case. Proctors sitting at home where he belongs n the corruption hopefully is held accountable. FKR ✌️ ❤
@FiendlingBM
@FiendlingBM 11 күн бұрын
It's not that great , 9 out of 12 believed she killed him with her car. Doesn't bode well for the retrial. Vehicular manslaughter under the influence still carries 15 years.
@barbkorus8246
@barbkorus8246 11 күн бұрын
This trial is absolutely crazy.
@capokeyno
@capokeyno 11 күн бұрын
I thought to myself when the judge declared a mistrial that the judge should clarify if each were hung just in case of this scenario.
@fabnforgotten6061
@fabnforgotten6061 11 күн бұрын
The judge should've declared on each charge rather than just saying a mistrial all together. Count 1- not guilty Count 2- hung Count 3- not guilty So she's not being retried on all charges but just Count 2 bc the way she ended the trial, the state can retry her on all charges. But that would be double jeopardy. Bev messed up.
@kristenjustkristen9462
@kristenjustkristen9462 11 күн бұрын
Like the Judge in Tennessee did with the David Swift trial. I normally don't think TN gets much right lol but on that trial, they did good.
@heatherhapgood6235
@heatherhapgood6235 11 күн бұрын
Yes, on purpose imo..i feel shes corrupt ​@fabnforgotten6061
@fabnforgotten6061
@fabnforgotten6061 11 күн бұрын
@@heatherhapgood6235 I agree
@katego370
@katego370 11 күн бұрын
That mistrial declaration went so fast! I was so confused about why she didn't ask the jury anything on the record, she just dismissed the jury. I assume that's not strictly disallowed in the rules but I think the rules should be much clearer in this area, it invites judges to just kinda do whatever they want with a hung jury.
@bunch_o_racket
@bunch_o_racket 11 күн бұрын
3 jurors reaching out unsolicited is pretty impressive
@ellebooth9171
@ellebooth9171 11 күн бұрын
Actually it was 1 juror who reached out directly to defense attorneys, and the other 2 were individuals that had spoken to jurors who then told defense what the juror said. Papa Tragos was very clear on that differentiation. Either way, it is crazy I agree and hopefully KR will be acquitted on charge 1 & 3 !
@jfk32975
@jfk32975 11 күн бұрын
It’s not 3 jurors. Listen
@leannabedore
@leannabedore 11 күн бұрын
They explained in the motion it was only one direct juror but two indirect. Either way I agree, even one coming forward.
@bunch_o_racket
@bunch_o_racket 11 күн бұрын
I retract that. There was ONE juror that reached out and 2 people reaching out about 2 other jurors. Not really that impressive since so so many people are very interested in the outcome of this case.
@bunch_o_racket
@bunch_o_racket 11 күн бұрын
​@@ellebooth9171yes I realize that now. Sorry and you thank you
@thestrwbrrygirl
@thestrwbrrygirl 11 күн бұрын
It is kind of scary that the court does not or did not in this case clarify and find her not guilty of the charges that were unanimous. Shady!
@einyv
@einyv 11 күн бұрын
She won't because she's corrupt. She should have asked this and given the defense a chance before dismissal of the jury plus not using NG option under every charge.
@MrsDannunzio
@MrsDannunzio 11 күн бұрын
Judge Bev is finally getting the humbling she richly deserves for how she acted throughout this case.
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
She did nothing wrong. This motion is ridiculous. These attorneys have pushed way hard in this trial. They wanted the mistrial and they had time to object. Matter of fact THEY wanted it early and LALLY argued to let them continue. To say they couldn’t say anything is a lie…they were smiling and hugging then went outside with a huge gathering. Give it a rest. This is more of their slimy.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 11 күн бұрын
​@@PEBBLEZ21be quiet, Jennifer. We know how bad you looked on the stand and your repeated comments that blithely ignore all evidence (or lack thereof in the prosecution's case) doesn't help. How about you explain the whole "how soon to die of cold" at 2 am Google search? Oh wait...
@sadiehughes6972
@sadiehughes6972 11 күн бұрын
Jen in chat. She just can’t keep her mouth shut
@susangilliam6400
@susangilliam6400 10 күн бұрын
the judge should have polled the jury​@@PEBBLEZ21
@deninehester7692
@deninehester7692 10 күн бұрын
@@PEBBLEZ21did you get your tooth fixed yet Jen?
@dji9424
@dji9424 11 күн бұрын
The text response recorded by Informant B on David Yanetti's affidavit is crucial to the status of the second charge. The text in question reads: "No one thought she hit him on purpose or even thought she hit him on purpose [sic]." Obviously, the statement is saying the same thing twice, but what if the last two words were omitted and the second part of the statement read: "...or even thought she hit him"? I maintain that is likely the way the statement was intended to read, given the use of the word "even". That word "even" is used for emphasis and is intended to distinguish the second statement from the first, making a statement about the act itself ("hit him") whereas the original statement was more focused on intent ("on purpose"). If that is true, the second charge should also produce a NOT GUILTY verdict because one of the primary conditions that she struck Officer O'Keefe was not sufficiently proven to the jury. But the verdict form itself and accompanying instructions were so confusing that some jurors were unsure as to what they were voting on. If the jurors were plainly asked, "Do you believe the CW proved that Karen Read struck Officer O'Keefe with her SUV?" If they all were not convinced, she needs to be acquitted of all charges, period.
@JulieMiller-of2dl
@JulieMiller-of2dl 11 күн бұрын
I wonder if it was meant to say "ever" the second time and was a typo?
@dji9424
@dji9424 11 күн бұрын
@@JulieMiller-of2dl Possibly, but why even say it as two separate statements? Why not just say "No one ever thought she hit him on purpose"? I don't know, hopefully the full jury will be able to clarify their deliberations and decisions.
@ficalli4743
@ficalli4743 11 күн бұрын
2nd charge stood, they had problems with 1 and 3
@AJD09FB
@AJD09FB 11 күн бұрын
Or you could insert "wanted to", so that it reads "No one thought she hit him on purpose, or even thought she [wanted to] hit him on purpose.". Which would make sense. However, until the jurors are actually asked what happened during their deliberations, this is just speculation.
@lisolette1
@lisolette1 11 күн бұрын
I speculated the exact same thing “ or even hit him at all “ but yes we will have to wait and see
@susanloveshuskies
@susanloveshuskies 11 күн бұрын
That trial and judge were ridiculous. Waste of taxpayer money! Not guilty. Period.
@stevenprice6957
@stevenprice6957 11 күн бұрын
Karen is guilty period. Manslaughter. Wrongful death suite coming. Witness intimidation also.
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
OH GOD!! Next time you need the police call Karen Read. Maybe she’ll hit you with her 7000 pound weapon.
@jediknight4316
@jediknight4316 11 күн бұрын
10-2 GUILTY!
@lovelanguageari7551
@lovelanguageari7551 11 күн бұрын
@@jediknight4316that is absolute not true. The was a unanimous “not guilty” on the 2nd degree murder and hit and run charge. They were stuck on the lesser charges and not polled so no one knows what that outcome was
@rosalielibario9781
@rosalielibario9781 11 күн бұрын
​@@jediknight4316wrong
@Whattupp-b7b
@Whattupp-b7b 11 күн бұрын
Her rights were violated regarding the investigation lead by ex trooper proctor that was botched and violated her rights should be thrown out and dismissed
@reneearnett8761
@reneearnett8761 11 күн бұрын
The judge seemed to declare the mistrial and dismiss the jurors as fast as she could!!
@tweety2918
@tweety2918 11 күн бұрын
I think they should drop the cop frame job but stick to the horrible investigation and bias by law enforcement etc. Emphasize more on closing from experts proving no way it was hit by car - damages
@JackieHorvath
@JackieHorvath 11 күн бұрын
What I am so upset about is the fact that Paul Okeefe befriended those who are the very ones responsible for John’s tragic death !! My opinion ! I do not care whether intentional or unintentional they did it ! Yet he believes this woman who maybe got angry like every other woman at some point in her relationship decided you know what I’m going to murder him tonight ! This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard . The woman is a professional never been in trouble a day in her life ! The defense shows photos of Colin Albert’s bruised knuckles that he supposedly got from falling as if anyone puts their hands out that way to break a fall ! Paul said in his interview Colin Albert’s young life is ruined ! 11:05 defended Trooper PROCTOR ! He defended the way the police handled evidence at the crime scene stating it was a BLIZZARD 🥶 well guess what Duty Ron a retired NYC detective and his counterpart a crime scene investigator said we live in the Midwest you live in Maine for goodness sakes if that’s how you handle a crime scene you shouldn’t be at one! He knows that the only true experts in the entire entire trial that were witnesses worked for the FBI and said that they got their information from the defense. No, they didn’t don’t understand it. I will never understand it. My heart aches for them, but why why are you defending these corrupt disgusting vile humans, I watched how they attacked turtle boy in broad daylight in front of people they’re being charged for it. He knows these people are under investigation yet he continually defends them. I pray that God ends this and frees karen Read and I pray that God brings to light into justice the people responsible for John O’Keefe’s horrific death🙏🏻
@Ideadelight
@Ideadelight 11 күн бұрын
They either tried or Auntie Bev wouldn’t let them. These lawyers wouldn’t let this go!!!
@jillruben8924
@jillruben8924 11 күн бұрын
I believe Auntie Bev didn’t allow. She wanted KR to be found guilty no matter.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 11 күн бұрын
​@@jillruben8924Auntie Bev needs to also get her butt investigated. Her conduct was disgusting.
@CharlieLynne-eu9dz
@CharlieLynne-eu9dz 11 күн бұрын
Bev said at some point layers are not allowed to communicate with jurors.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 10 күн бұрын
@@CharlieLynne-eu9dz she should've thought of that before declaring a mistrial. Since the trial ended there, the jurors are no longer serving as jurors for that exact trial, so they're free to speak on whatever the hell they want to. Sucks to be corrupted suck! 😜
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 11 күн бұрын
A great opportunity to take a step back and review what a standard jury form should look like, and what the standard instructions to a jury should be, so that there isn’t a repeat of this sort of problem.
@doreendaykin6693
@doreendaykin6693 11 күн бұрын
👏👏👏👏🤯
@evercuriousmichelle
@evercuriousmichelle 11 күн бұрын
YES! Poor layout of complex information really peeves me and if I had been on that jury I probably would have drawn up a better version and told the judge to use my version next time! (That probably would have gone poorly but it's like nails on a chalkboard for me!)
@jeannedesrosiers3642
@jeannedesrosiers3642 11 күн бұрын
I hope they can dismiss at least the 2 they all voted for
@noeleen5250
@noeleen5250 11 күн бұрын
Everything about those jury forms and instructions was confusing... even when she tried to fix it she belched out a word salad that confused everyone more.
@christinegreen3974
@christinegreen3974 11 күн бұрын
I was on a jury trial where we had 8 counts to consider and each was clearly treated as seperate. 5 of the counts we could find either at the felony or misdemeanor levels. We went through each and turned in our decision for each count. I can see how this form would be really confusing.
@alicencosgrove5533
@alicencosgrove5533 11 күн бұрын
This will go down as the most expensive DUI case defense in history. But if Karen goes down for DUI, then everyone else who drove a vehicle that night should as well.
@Irishgirl82
@Irishgirl82 11 күн бұрын
I’m so confused by this. I didn’t think that OUI/DUI as a separate charge was even on there as an option. They got her blood alcohol level by breach of HIPPA from a 72 hour mental health hold a billion hours after she actually drove to Fairview. None of it makes sense. The jury was confused by the verdict slip with no “not guilty” option, pressured, and intimidated by the glaring McAlberts. (Bad plan by Paul. Backfired)
@mandyrayner783
@mandyrayner783 11 күн бұрын
But if they have Karen for drinking no test was done on day of discovery so it's all not guilty
@mandyrayner783
@mandyrayner783 11 күн бұрын
Exactly
@mandyrayner783
@mandyrayner783 11 күн бұрын
The witness said he was drinking all night then got into car to go to station
@tibb814
@tibb814 8 күн бұрын
@@alicencosgrove5533 she is not charged with simple dui.
@IAmALawyerToo
@IAmALawyerToo 11 күн бұрын
Lawyers are witnesses to judge’s failure to share note with lawyer.
@esoteridactyl
@esoteridactyl 11 күн бұрын
I remember that last note and thought it was odd she didn't share it with the lawyers and ask their opinions like all the other notes. So odd to me.
@IAmALawyerToo
@IAmALawyerToo 10 күн бұрын
@@esoteridactyl me too.
@kaykay7420
@kaykay7420 11 күн бұрын
Wow as far as I see corruption all the way to the Judge If she knew this and didn’t tell the attorneys
@donnaonstott
@donnaonstott 11 күн бұрын
If juror a, b or c, had a question about whether they could vote not guilty on count 1 and 3 and deadlock on count 2, why didn’t they ask the judge about that?
@susangilliam6400
@susangilliam6400 10 күн бұрын
judge confused them imo
@hollyharris1874
@hollyharris1874 11 күн бұрын
Aunt Bev strikes again!!! Omg!!! I am _furious_ about this!😠🤬😤
@RMBRN11
@RMBRN11 11 күн бұрын
Same!!! She screwed everyone including herself.
@Lucylu2114
@Lucylu2114 11 күн бұрын
@@RMBRN11absolutely what goes around comes around
@Rev12.10
@Rev12.10 11 күн бұрын
Did you see her face when the last two auto wreck experts got up on the stand? She had a furious look, she was twirling her glasses, and looking at them with disgust. Any moron would know that a car does not cause only those injuries? Even if he was suspended in the air sideways, head only toward the car, backwards facing, he still had to come down. What...a dog bit him while he was in the air? He had no spine injuries? Check Waddles Triad principles.
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
I’m furious Karen isn’t in prison but oh well…
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
@@RMBRN11no she didn’t..Karen is guilty and will be retried.
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 11 күн бұрын
I can’t understand how even 8 of them considered she was Guilty of any of the charges! WTF were they thinking?
@xtina1229
@xtina1229 11 күн бұрын
Honestly? I think they felt compelled to find someone accountable for a dead cop and that was the compromise for some of them. Simple as that.
@yukihiromol2091
@yukihiromol2091 11 күн бұрын
Hey if it makes you feel any better, sometimes the earth is flat.
@LinaGenX
@LinaGenX 11 күн бұрын
Same. I don't know what happened to O'keef. All I know is Reed's car never hit him
@amandamosteller1371
@amandamosteller1371 11 күн бұрын
It doesn't make sense. If it was a separate DUI charge then fine but it's not. It's a DUI with injury/death. So after they declared her not guilty of leaving the scene of an accident, then how tf did they come to the conclusion that she drove drunk and caused injury or death? Makes no sense
@xtina1229
@xtina1229 11 күн бұрын
@@amandamosteller1371 I am not claiming it makes sense! I think he wasn’t hit by a car which automatically makes her not guilty on all 3! But I think some jurors were eager to show accountability for his death in some form and this is what they came up with.
@shelleywright8350
@shelleywright8350 11 күн бұрын
I really like that you call your dad...Dad... On your channel. Shows a wonderful deep respect and love for your dad.
@electricpaper269
@electricpaper269 11 күн бұрын
Judge should’ve asked the jury if they had reached at least a partial verdict before declaring a mistrial. I thought that at the time but I thought it was unlikely based on the jury’s note.
@benno10xx
@benno10xx 11 күн бұрын
CORRUPT JUDGE
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 11 күн бұрын
I totally AGREE!
@Dr_Vix
@Dr_Vix 11 күн бұрын
I am now thinking this is true!
@hellcat2254
@hellcat2254 11 күн бұрын
I’ve thought it all along!
@hope7144
@hope7144 11 күн бұрын
Absolutely HORRIBLE and RUDE !!!
@LA-sn7qx
@LA-sn7qx 11 күн бұрын
Bev did go to the back and talked to the jury after by herself
@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450
@alwayshavestrengthjoy7450 11 күн бұрын
After count one being not guilty, the rest were moot!
@beachgirl4truth672
@beachgirl4truth672 11 күн бұрын
The judge SHOULD have polled the jury to ask if they were hung on ALL charges OR, if NOT, which SPECIFIC charge(s) they were hung on!! IF she had ASKED them that, they could have been INSTRUCTED at that time to be sure to check the verdict(s) they AGREED on!! This judge should have NO CHOICE but to hold a hearing with all 12 of these jurors to determine if they unanimously agreed that Karen was “not guilty” on 2 of the charges, as Karen’s CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to NOT be subject to “double jeopardy” would be VIOLATED if what her defense counsel is saying is true and she’s faced with being tried again on those SAME charges!!
@laure26
@laure26 11 күн бұрын
I think she truly just wanted it to end so it can become another judges issue someday
@macb8309
@macb8309 11 күн бұрын
@@laure26with all her huffing and puffing and sad, tired, bored and irritated exhales, she wanted it over before it even began!
@beachgirl4truth672
@beachgirl4truth672 11 күн бұрын
@@laure26Except for the fact that the SAME judge normally presides over the retrial!!
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
Can’t in that state..are you not listening or maybe get out of Karen’s behind.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 11 күн бұрын
​@PEBBLEZ21 maybe YOU need to stop living in the state PD's/prosecution's behind. You clearly are prone to ignoring when they don't provide any substantial evidence to their claims... so how does that police boot taste?
@noillusions8734
@noillusions8734 11 күн бұрын
I prefer to listen to someone who is able to be objective and honestly call balls and stripes regardless if they have a personal opinion. Otherwise, what's the point in educating your viewers or people getting a genuine understanding of how our laws and courts function! Don't be sorry for being honest! Thank you for all the work you put into these videos. I appreciate every minute!!
@schweisy
@schweisy 11 күн бұрын
Totally agree - Peter is one of the few LawTubers I feel I can come to for a truly objective take, even if it doesn’t please the audience. I want to understand, not be pandered to 😅
@pickyaf3376
@pickyaf3376 11 күн бұрын
I think the judge would have shut them down if they would have asked.
@manueltorres5285
@manueltorres5285 11 күн бұрын
No jury instructions or form should ever be complicated and contradictory.
@lisajeter9511
@lisajeter9511 11 күн бұрын
Which is exactly what Karen Reads attorneys said on the front steps of the Court house. The CW didn’t prove their case!
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
In their opinion but that isn’t true. Was it a not guilty? Nope!! Proved it to me and apparently some jurors. 24 mph in reverse 60 feet with a I HATE YOU VM right after?? She did it. She snapped and jammed it into reverse..see ya popsicle.
@sara_387
@sara_387 11 күн бұрын
@@PEBBLEZ21 The added problem was that the CW's experts were not qualified to prove their case. The '60 feet in 24 mph' was based on an error by Trooper Paul. KR was not in possession of the car when that key cycle occurred. So the CW really did not prove their case.
@auntshell7941
@auntshell7941 11 күн бұрын
Also, his injuries were not from getting hit by a car, more likely, a fight. Dog bites.. his watch info, flight of stairs.. way too much doubt. Not guilty.
@suekandel7625
@suekandel7625 11 күн бұрын
@@PEBBLEZ21 Hello a 3rd time Pebblez, I asked you about your opinion in my previous reply and this comment has a few answers. So, you believe Trooper Paul's version above the Fed's witnesses "CrashDaddies" testimonies, correct? Now, we are learning that at least on 2 of the charges including Murder2, there was a "Not Guilty" verdict decided. Isn't it hard to add another "accident" to the case against KR? There is another (much easier to believe) explanation for the key cycle info. By the way, try to go 24mph in reverse for 60 ft. I tried but couldn't. I can believe the "I Hate You" voice messages were because she was drunk and angry, not because she had just killed him. Is "popsicle" a local insult? Thanks
@citygirl729
@citygirl729 11 күн бұрын
Peter, so many times during the Karen Read trial I felt that the judge showed absolute bias towards the prosecution! Now with the information that has come to light that the jurors unanimously voted not guilty for counts one and three, I absolutely believe that the judge knew this information and that's why she did not allow the jurors to be polled or questioned or the notes to be read by either party! Then to top it off the judge questions the jurors privately! I have never heard of this happening in any trial! It is unbelievable what is happening in our country with our legal system! Judges are off the reservation and doing as they please without following the law! This is outrageous! I pray that a full investigation is done and that if they find that the judge in fact withheld this information she should be removed from the bench immediately! God help us all!!
@tibb814
@tibb814 7 күн бұрын
@@citygirl729 total supporter of KR, however...... Its actually normal for judges to speak with the jurors after a trial, just to thank them. And not one juror has claimed bev knew
@citygirl729
@citygirl729 5 күн бұрын
Yes I agree that judges always speak to the jurors afterwards but it's usually not done in total secrecy without the attorneys present. I really wish that the jury forman would have asked about what to do in regards to charge 1 and charge 3 since they were not sure about what to do. If they in fact came to a unanimous verdict in each of those charges it just seems really unfair to have to try her again on those charges instead of just charge 2 for manslaughter.
@nancykleinschmidt8173
@nancykleinschmidt8173 11 күн бұрын
The Karen Read trial not only ended in a Mistrial. The Karen Read trial also ended in a MisJudged!!
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
Baloney…you’re brainwashed..
@annkat100
@annkat100 11 күн бұрын
Nice comment. Imo. ⚖️
@annkat100
@annkat100 11 күн бұрын
@@PEBBLEZ21How so? Otherwise, your comment is merely YOUR opinion, which you’re obviously entitled to, but “brainwashed” implies that you are in fact, in possession of information we DO NOT hv. Feelings are feelings. Facts are cited… in any/every area of expertise, business, academia. Check b4 wreck, please. Or, just clearly state your comment is YOUR opinion: solely. ⚠️✌🏽
@JeffNipp
@JeffNipp 11 күн бұрын
Odd.... defense asked for the verdict form to be changed for this exact reason. Judge said no need..... and yet....
@joeyruss5
@joeyruss5 11 күн бұрын
These jury instructions were always going to be a point of contention for the defense. If found the 2 are unanimous. Then double jeopardy should absolutely be a thing.
@cherylj7460
@cherylj7460 11 күн бұрын
The jury didn’t know there was a question that needed to be asked, based on judges response probably.
@maxbang1813
@maxbang1813 11 күн бұрын
THE JUDGE failed to inform. She purposely acted in conduct unbecoming of ANY member of the Bar / courts
@suebrown7358
@suebrown7358 11 күн бұрын
I love that they are quoting John Adams back to Lally et al. 😂
@justkim9827
@justkim9827 11 күн бұрын
I think Judge Bev quoted John Adams too. Either on their first day, or the day of closings, I don't remember
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 11 күн бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too! Very Massachusetts to quote John Adams
@RobertBatina
@RobertBatina 11 күн бұрын
I’m extremely frustrated that possible juror IGNORANCE is playing such a roll in the dispensing of justice. It feels INEXCUSABLE to me, that when the jury came back, that they didn’t tell the judge “We WERE able to agree NG on two charges, but unable to agree on the third, and therefore we are hung.” And if not, the JUDGE should have ASKED them (re: each charge) WITHOUT having to be prodded by ANY attorney before declaring a mistrial. What if they agreed on GUILTY to some charges but didn’t mark it?? This feels like such an injustice… never mind the fact that it is BAFFLING to me that 8 jurors believed she hit him with her car. 😏
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 11 күн бұрын
The verdict form is to blame here, not the jurors, in my lay opinion.
@Diana-ch8cv
@Diana-ch8cv 11 күн бұрын
@@GH-oi2jf agree, verdict form was confusing because the top option was Not Guilty on 2nd degree and ALL lesser charges, so they technically couldn't select that option if they were deadlocked on some of the lesser charges. There should have been a guilty/not guilty option by each count to make it clear.
@RellikRevo
@RellikRevo 11 күн бұрын
Because all the utube scammers wouldnt make money. Tik tok. Wt f up
@al1383
@al1383 11 күн бұрын
It's on the judge, not the jury. And a little bit of blame goes to the defense attorneys for not asking
@steelhurricane4041
@steelhurricane4041 11 күн бұрын
Ignorant jury. Not well educated in basic physics. He wasn't struck at all by her car.
@pearreemason1179
@pearreemason1179 11 күн бұрын
Love having Poppa Lawyer You Know on here! Y’all are great together!
@sophiakonstantin1248
@sophiakonstantin1248 11 күн бұрын
Your father has common sense! Bravo!
@jackiebeh6702
@jackiebeh6702 11 күн бұрын
I’m so angry I can’t listen…God dismiss those false charges.
@lanepaula8365
@lanepaula8365 11 күн бұрын
They probably thought they were gonna be sent back to keep deliberating..everytime they asked a question they were sent back. They never had a chance to complete the form
@susangilliam6400
@susangilliam6400 10 күн бұрын
YES TOTALLY AGREE
@caseylee4834
@caseylee4834 11 күн бұрын
I agree 💯 percent that the Jury needs to come back and be asked each count
@CathieTomczyk-qz1lw
@CathieTomczyk-qz1lw 11 күн бұрын
Is it possible that the judge ensured that the verdict sheet was confusing simply for this reason?
@Lucylu2114
@Lucylu2114 11 күн бұрын
Absolutely just like she didn’t give an option for not guilty and laughed at the attorneys and yelled at Karen
@ellenthom34
@ellenthom34 11 күн бұрын
The state did not prove anything
@ellenthom34
@ellenthom34 11 күн бұрын
The state should not waste tax money retrying this regardless of what judge does on this motion.
@Molly-pb2yb
@Molly-pb2yb 11 күн бұрын
To me, the question is, did they prove he was hit by a car? Each count required that the jury unanimously agrees he was hit by a car. If prosecution didn't prove that then, it's NOT GUILTY on all three charges!
@PEBBLEZ21
@PEBBLEZ21 11 күн бұрын
Proved it to me and I know your head is gonna blow but apparently they proved it to some jurors..uhhhh, because HE WAS!!!
@alyshaalberts5694
@alyshaalberts5694 11 күн бұрын
@@PEBBLEZ21it wasn’t proved. Sorry.
@khaleesireyna731
@khaleesireyna731 11 күн бұрын
​@@PEBBLEZ21Jennifer, WE KNOW nothing was proven to you because you didn't WANT it to be proven because that would mean more scrutiny to your ilk. But the facts don't really care about your feelings, so why don't you go cry to someone who actually gaf about your feelings or something.
@auntshell7941
@auntshell7941 11 күн бұрын
The professionals testified. His injuries were more likely from getting hit on the back of the head. .. and dog bites.. Why get rid of the dog, huh? Even if she did hit him, even if, they flubbed up the evidence. Were all friends and should have not been on this case. Threw phones away... reasonable doubt. They did a piss poor job and just thought she'd take a plea deal.
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 11 күн бұрын
One of the lesser includeds didnt require that she hit anyone
@sunchips5
@sunchips5 11 күн бұрын
Each juror should be required to vote guilty or not guilty on each count in writing and sign the form, so this mistrial shit doesn't get fucked up!
@leximarie3808
@leximarie3808 11 күн бұрын
Proctor suspended without pay. To Proctor's wife: brings new meaning to your "I support my husband" doesn't it?
@tanyam.2982
@tanyam.2982 11 күн бұрын
😂💯
@nadineprior3643
@nadineprior3643 11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@healthycathy9782
@healthycathy9782 11 күн бұрын
You’re sharp as a tack! 😂😂😂
@kathyriccio6407
@kathyriccio6407 11 күн бұрын
He needs flip no other choice he needs a deal
@Tay-fl8ym
@Tay-fl8ym 11 күн бұрын
😅
@lyndacoleman4721
@lyndacoleman4721 11 күн бұрын
The judge has consistently dropped the ball trying to make this as favorable for the DA is absolutely possible, and as far as she can, in any stretch of the imagination against the defense. It’s been very blatant.
@hopefulhuman
@hopefulhuman 11 күн бұрын
Why are the jurors saying all this now? Why didn't they say anything at any time during their deliberations? This doesn't make sense.
@emmitt5443
@emmitt5443 11 күн бұрын
because it's not true her team is doing a full on push to dismiss the case.
@chaseskinner98
@chaseskinner98 11 күн бұрын
Because the jurors are not allowed to speak to the defense, or the prosecution during the trial. This juror reached out to the defense after the mistrial was declared.
@hopefulhuman
@hopefulhuman 9 күн бұрын
@chaseskinner98 Why didn't they tell the judge in one of their notes they sent?
@chaseskinner98
@chaseskinner98 9 күн бұрын
From what I understand it’s based on the confusion of the jury instructions. It seems as though they were under the impression that if a verdict wasn’t reached on every charge, then the 2 counts they all agreed NG on couldn’t be submitted. They had another Juror come out today and reaffirm the NG on the two charges. The motion goes into the confusion, LYK did a video on it today. Fascinating stuff
@al1383
@al1383 11 күн бұрын
Our justice system is wack asf!!
@samanthamarlman5292
@samanthamarlman5292 11 күн бұрын
The jury all said the day Brian Albert came to court w the okeefes they felt he was intinidating them. The okeefes are the one's who did that for one reason n we were all right. Ridiculous those 3 came that day!!
@Michelleyoung1717
@Michelleyoung1717 11 күн бұрын
AGREED
@Diana-ch8cv
@Diana-ch8cv 11 күн бұрын
at the very least the bailiffs should have made them move so they weren't sitting directly in front of the jury
@kandroli2
@kandroli2 11 күн бұрын
Brian Albert is a big ewwwww
@JackieHorvath
@JackieHorvath 11 күн бұрын
Agree it was ABSOLUTELY INTENTIONAL!!
@missk9056
@missk9056 11 күн бұрын
I agree it's a form of witness intimidation It was even worst it was allowed to take place in a court room .Judge denied Miss Read a fair trial
@debikaip3699
@debikaip3699 10 күн бұрын
I enjoyed your Dad being in the show with you . Great to meet you dad ! You both are extremely intelligent & helpful in explaining this trail case of Karen Reed. Thanks for sharing your knowledge & answering all the questions asked. I voted Karen Reed is not guilty as charged .
@MsJolmstead
@MsJolmstead 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for covering this. Always love it when your dad joins you. What a great lawyer, papa and mentor. Miss my dad so much.
@peggykeegan6826
@peggykeegan6826 11 күн бұрын
I miss mine every day too
@CP2468
@CP2468 11 күн бұрын
@CP2468
@CP2468 11 күн бұрын
​@@peggykeegan6826❤
@mbsully8774
@mbsully8774 11 күн бұрын
Excellent point- Have you heard of case of Sean Ellis?- another Boston cop corruption case in early 90s. He had TWO mistrials and found guilty 3rd trial convicted lifetime sentence. He was released in 2015 and there was a Netflix series called Trial 4. He never got the fourth trial.
@sunchips5
@sunchips5 11 күн бұрын
I just don't know how any of the jurors could have voted guilty on any of the counts. There is no forensic proof that her car hit his body. It's this simple.
@pattyf33
@pattyf33 11 күн бұрын
Totally agree. If you can’t prove he was hit by a vehicle, how can you convict.
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 11 күн бұрын
One of the lesser included offenses on Count 2 was basic DUI with no mention of her hitting John. I think that's where they were deadlocked
@smacdonald5142
@smacdonald5142 10 күн бұрын
The evidence actually proves he was hit by her car. Any other evidence was inconclusive. Pieces of her taillight were found at the scene. The vehicle logs are consistent with backing up and hitting someone. She sent text messages that she hated him. She even admitted hitting him at the scene. All that is means, opportunity and motive.
@sunchips5
@sunchips5 10 күн бұрын
@@pattyf33 You can't. As more people learn about the injustice of charging her in the first place, this will become more and more viral. I expect a Hollywood movie will eventually be made about this.
@sunchips5
@sunchips5 10 күн бұрын
@smacdonald5142 I don't think you closely watched the trial. Have you at least heard the defense's opening and closing arguments and the defense's forensic experts? If not, please at least do that.
@ginnyricker2340
@ginnyricker2340 10 күн бұрын
Love you. I’m in Mass now. Helping family member. I live near Tampa. You’re so real. Thank You! ❤
@jflabeets1
@jflabeets1 11 күн бұрын
The judge talked to all the jury privately after everyone else left. The reason for A and B may be that the judge did pole the jury and already knows the answer to the question therefore and just go ahead and move if so asked by the defense..
@JK-yf2vl
@JK-yf2vl 11 күн бұрын
The judges brother defended one of the witnesses…Albert’s 20 years ago. Killed a man in car accident.
@dannygirl6930
@dannygirl6930 11 күн бұрын
On rewatch again over here. So one thing I do remember, after the jury was brought back in , the judge read the note and in the same breath said…. I’m not going to you I’m declaring a miss trial and hit her gavel… so I’m not sure the defense could object to anything… not sure how that would have worked
@Diana-ch8cv
@Diana-ch8cv 11 күн бұрын
she declared the mistrial so fast after reading the note, she never asked the lawyers if they wanted the jury polled and the lawyers were not given the opportunity to do so
@lawnerddownunder3461
@lawnerddownunder3461 11 күн бұрын
She didn't even take a breath,there was no opportunity for anyone to say a thing
@ArcherGinger
@ArcherGinger 11 күн бұрын
Hearing should be held to determine how the jury voted on each count at the time of deliberations. The form was confusing as well as the instructions for the jury. IMO The court/judge was incompetent in not polling the jury in courtroom to eliminate any questions. The trial was already a mess!!
@barbaraportrr2508
@barbaraportrr2508 11 күн бұрын
Put the judge in jail!
@jfk32975
@jfk32975 11 күн бұрын
Your a joke
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