Nah. Klopp is just a media darling. Dude literally finish outside of top 4 last season with 0 trophy, what is legendary about that. U need to remember he did that with the team that he build. He should be ashamed and tell the media to stop hyping him esp when he is leaving lfc on a low.. This convo wont even happen if he won 2 pl title.. For real i never heard abybody let alone man utd fan question fergie or busby status. Heck even mourinho never get this kind of trearment by chelsea fan cos his epl cv is legendary. Glad that lfc fan like mo being honest. Lets hope more lfc fan come forward and tell the world the truth 1 pl title is not enough to be consider a legend. If lfc fan wanna claim he is the greatest lfc manager that ia different. Dont lower the value of the legend status. Esp when he got all the time in the world to win more than 1 pl. Even this season when man city at not their beat he cant win it. Yes there is still a few game to go but i have no problem writing him off.

Next season mid-table race gonna be epic between Chelsea, Man Utd, & Liverpool 😂

Wouldn’t say “never”, just not for a “long, long time”

Roy Evans Gerard Houllier Rafa Benitez Brenda Rogers all came close to winning the premier League, Liverpool fans have to remember the Klopp was at the club for 10 years when there was only 1 premier League team competing for trophies

The self entitlement of these Liverpool fans. You were nothing before jurgen came here. A joke a meme. He took you from meanless to a title challanger

Then why were pool fans were saying we have the best dm , best attack blah blah blah ? Now back tracking because you bottled it 😂

Yes. I never heard anybody questioned fergie or mourinho legend status. Its kinda hard to say klopp deserve a seat with 1 pl win. But finishing outside of top 4 with a team that he build last season prove that he is not that special. I mean if he won 2 or 3 pl title its another thing. I am glad there is a honest lfc fqn like mo. I hope more lfc fan will call into talksport and be honest like Mo. Need to keep the klopp debate going to remind the world if he is a true legend. This debate would nevwe happen

Next season mid-table race gonna be epic between Chelsea, Man Utd, & Liverpool 😂

It was a lot more amazing that arsenal was in a title race last season but all you heard from everyone is "bottled it" including liverpool fans. I don't have much sympathy especially when so many liverpool fans was dismissing arsenal saying it's between them and city

With the squad what we had and the new additions which were basically 2 new players as Endo and Mc Allister with the only two who played regularly throughout the season We had enough quality we didn't have enough quality player's in the squad yet again

I blame pogba

😂😂😂

​@@gabrielaleactus9932Souness blames Pogba. 😂

That’s glory hunters for you eh.

But we live around Liverpool and always will

@@JuliusSeizure-tw6mi Hardly be a Liverpool fan and a glory hunter can you?

​@@landcruiser801 if you're from Liverpool then no you're not

@@jackdelacey2505 I wasn’t aiming at the commenter, i was aiming it at who the commenter was talking about

“The best ability, is availability” - someone I can’t remember

@GIBBO4182 I’m not disputing that. Being fit and available is extremely important. Otherwise, all the talent in the world goes to waste. But if you’ve watched Liverpool the past 18 months, he’s low key highly underrated and is huge for Liverpool when fit.

@@PhotosoflifeHe’s not under rated by us fans, we all know he’s the best finisher we’ve got right now.

Nunez, Diaz, Gakpo and Salah....but Liverpool missed Jota? 🤨

@@drep9028 Yea that’s what I said, you have problems understanding.

U makin it sound like u were guaranteed points vs Arsenal.

i think they bottled it at Old Trafford when they bossed ManU around and couldn't score.

@@BiWesCrew Probably the most logical comment i have seen thats not actually banter today, yes Liverpool lost there edge against United and lost the title imo against Palace at home.

The league ain't over yet. Furthermore...it's the press that talked him up past what he's achieved. And it's the constant "underdog" whining that has also fed the false narrative

That isn’t bottling it. Don’t be stupid. 👍

Could be worse, could be 6th I suppose

It's only footy pal 😂 get a life

@pauljones3659 don't worry liverpool will be heading to that position next season 😆

Chelsea and Manchester United fans said we was done when didn't get signing were are man u and Chelsea this guys is not Scouse I am f him Manchester United and Chelsea didn't get top 4 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 one billion dollars

Most of them aren’t scousers mate to be fair. Let’s all laugh at Liverpool though 😂

All time great …… 😂

Same amount of PLs as Ranieri Same amount of CLs as Di Matteo Jurgen Flopp, ladies and gentlemen 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bro thinks we read all that 😂😂😂

Lots of ifs and buts in there. Do they give out trophies for 2nd place?

what did you win before Klopp??? since this man arrived , LFC is a club NOBODY wants to play against and is respected again. Ask ManUnited fans:))

Nah he's only won every trophy and won the bundesliga with dortmund... what a failure. Don't you want to stick with ten hag cause he won the same cup your mocking klopp for winning?

@@andyc2433 I rate Klopp but he’s spoken about like he’s one of the best managers in premier league history which isn’t true. Top top manager but his hype is insane

8 trophies won with Reds and 5 with Dortmund. Plus 2 CL finals lost. if this is few fair game...Who bagged on par for you then, eh?

Well, only one Premier League but he came 2nd with 97 and 92 points, which is insane. This Man City team will be remembered alongside those vintage Liverpool sides of the 70s and 80s, and the United sides of the 90s and 2000s. Klopp is unfortunate to have managed Liverpool in a period of complete domination from City. It's kind of like Mourinho's time in Madrid. Yeah, he only won 3 trophies, but that is more due to the strength of Barcelona at the time rather than Mourinho doing a bad job or something. In almost any other era, Klopp would have 2 more Premier Leagues to his name. I agree though that he is not among the best in English football history. Guys like Ferguson and Paisley are obviously clear of him, and so are Pep and José.

@@flavio7180 Yeah that’s fair, like i said I rate him and I’m still annoyed that Ed woodward totally fumbled him and let him go to the scousers. I just think he’s a level below the obvious guys.

He did. It was tacitly admitted in the "I'm running out of energy" video.

I think Klopp has matched his capabilities. The problem is that their is a narrative that wants to compare Klopp to Pep when Pep is far more complete a manager. That's why all this may look like "Pep broke Klopp" etc etc

@@drep9028 Regardless, as a City fan, as much I hated LFC and Klopp, I have even more respect for LFC and Klopp. As lovers of football, everyone should appreciate what Klopp & Pep have done since 2018/19 and on. Without Pep, Klopp would not have been able to reach the heights of excellence (regardless of trophy win or not) LFC have attained and with Klopp, Pep would not have either. On an English footballing historical basis, before the Pep v Klopp era, no team in PL history (perhaps English history too I think) had ever broken the 90-point threshold and NOT have won the title. That happened to Klopp 2x losing by 1=point and the most amazing of it all, is that the season LFC got 97 points and missed out by one (City won with 98) that was the 3rd (now 4th) highest points total in PL and English history. Let that sink in...in the 2018/19 season, Klopp's point total was the 3rd highest points total in English footballing history and it still wasnt enough to win it. For me, the rivalry btwn City & LFC, Klopp & Pep is so special and unique bc it was a competition of pushing the boundaries of footballing excellence to height never before seen. People can argue the Fergie years of MU and Wenger at Arsenal, but the points totals tell a different story. At the height of Klopp & Pep, dropping more than 16 points over an entire season meant losing the league. That means in order to win, you needed to capture 86% of the total 114 points available which is insane

He gave you sleepless nights? Eh? Should probably keep that to yourself

i think it was the man utd loss that broke him haha

Alex Ferguson despite winning the PL many times under achieved in Europe. Winning the CL just twice in two decades or so. I put him down as one of the most successful domestic coaches but over- rated- overall in Europe

He's spot on tho!🤣

A pork chop

Get your nan to cook him it ​@@marktaylor4216

People also need to be grateful for Klopps Liverpool who for several seasons were Man Citys only competition, without Liverpool city would have 6 Prem titles in a row....

He bought those players didn't he

He didn't have billions to buy players like Haaland, Kevin De Bruyne, Kyle walker, Rodri, Silva and couldn't backfill as a easily if player is a flop...pep has had flops but just covers it up by buying more good players

Well….you will get a good spanking in the FA Cup final. It will be brutal. your 4-3 against LFC was pure luck. 6-10 place is where ManU feels at home. In Europe ManU is irrelevant. You won nothing in the past 9 years.

😂

As a Leicester fan I always appreciate a title plug. Good for moral

You can chalk that down he has one league one since he has been there and is there Messiah he is in his hole in his head 🗣️ he is 😊

Pep is a good manager no one can take that away but let’s be honest anyone can be the best manager ever, if they had that team, I mean maybe one or two non-city players in the world will start for that team

​@@nocopyrightmusicbyme2610A team which was built by Pep though. Very few of these players were there before him, and he has massively improved pretty much everyone at City. He has had a ton of money to do it, but so have other teams. There have been plenty of brilliant teams with brilliant players in English football history, only another one has managed to win a European treble, no one else has a domestic treble (which Fergie described as impossible in the past) , no one else reached a 100 point season, and they are about to win a record 4th consecutive league title. Pep does ineed work with great teams, but he takes them to even more incredible levels. Both Barcelona and City have never enjoyed the level of success that they did under Pep, heck, few teams in history have. You can't just knock that off.

@@flavio7180 I just said that he’s good but to rank with the likes of Ferg he will need to go to Spurs and try to win the League there, all the place he’s been at had the best players, Pep has never build a team up from scratch, you just mention the treble, I am surprised he’s not doing it again, that team will beat any World Cup team and win the world cup

@@nocopyrightmusicbyme2610 You took quite a leap there from "anybody can do what Pep does" to "he's good but not as good as Fergie". Two completely different things.

Who live in your head rent free

YEEAAAHHHHH BOI

The press has talked up Klopps to be one of the greatest of great managers in the league when there's no evidence to support the narrative. So can't blame anyone now for pulling stats and facts as opposed to allegations and supposition

Lmaooooooo . 1 pl in 30. Years

@britpackdog4545 true though, a manufactured club and no one else will win the league while peps there

Dude what bullcrap are u talking?? With so limited budget he reached 3 UCL finals, 1 UEL, lost 2 EPL by 1 point. Had he was backed by FSG like CITY or arsenal, klopp could have achieved so much.

@@sunepba oh cry a river duh 🙄

@@sullaybjr7119 "cry me a river"? That's the best response you could come up with? Where are you from, India or the Middle East?

@@sunepbalimited budget??😂 you’re making it seem like liverpool is some poor small club. Its not “money” that plays the game. Klopp is an amazing coach when he is bringing a team to the top. Once he gets there he ALWAYS rolls down

That was shite aswel

“Unlimited money” they’re 4th in net spend over the past decade, and 6th over the last 5 years!

​@@GIBBO4182 because the empire is already established. Only needs to be topped up not rebuilt

@@MGJK97 same goes for everyone else then!

​@@MGJK97Stop this pathetic excuses! Let's compare Fergi's spending to this era of the transfer market and it'd be billions

@@GIBBO4182 ManCity have already built a world class squad with the unlimited money way before that. So they don’t have to spend much later.

Klopps like the supporters, overrated

Yes and they didn't break dozens of rules to buy the title like man city 😂

@@jimbo1480 prove it?

@@IdontKnow-fd6rp give it a few months!

They’ve challenged for the league 3 times in his 9 years at the club

Nunez and Jackson..They even missed the correct words becuz they MISSunderstand English

Small club? Hahaha tell that to Liverpool fans, they think they're still as big as they were in the 70's and 80's!!!!! Joke club and fans, they've over achieved since Klopp has been there and now they're gunna go back down to the 7-8 place that they are used to!! If they're lucky that is because there's alot of other clubs who have improved recently aswell, Liverpool at their very best have only won one premier league, one champions league and this was the best Liverpool team for years, let's see how many they win without Klopp!! Hilarious!!! 😂

Completely irrelevant and meaningless "fact" there. Lol